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Better Gas Milage

TMW - 7-29-2008 at 07:25 AM

The latest issue of Dusty Times has a piece under Trail Notes about a Hydrogen Assist Fuel Cell. Pro Motors Group set up the Hydrogen kit in a 2006 Ford Fusion that averaged 25-28 mpg. They did a cross country test and the car got an impressive 55mpg at an average speed of 65mph using reg gas. The kits are available on line at Pro Motors Group Corp for $995. http://pmgumpg.com

Has anyone used one or something similar?

Bruce R Leech - 7-29-2008 at 07:54 AM

don't wast your money on these gadgets that don't do anything.

Mexicali_Kid - 7-29-2008 at 08:02 AM

TW... weren't you paying attention in physics class? Those things don't work.

thebajarunner - 7-29-2008 at 08:20 AM

Yep, every couple of years the best inventors come up with something that will guarantee up to 100 mpg.
Awesome discoveries, for sure,
And then, sure enough, the oil companies pool their funds and buy the creation and we all go back to the pumps.
Oh, I almost forgot,
if you read the fishing magazines the ads always have a lure that catches very large fish on every cast.....

(s) P.T. Barnum

Bruce R Leech - 7-29-2008 at 08:41 AM

♦International Tesla Electric Co., dba Hi-Tech, is advertising fuel savings devices called PICC (Pre-Ignition Catalytic Converter) and the HAFC (Hydro Assist Fuel Cell). According to the company, both are supposed to create a 50 percent increase in gas mileage. The BBB requested independent substantiation of this claim. The company did not respond. Seven attorneys general have taken action against Dennis Lee, one of the principals.

comitan - 7-29-2008 at 09:14 AM

Seems to me that if it was as good as advertised it would be in the national news networks. They wouldn't have to be making Hybrid or electric cars. With all their millions the big automakers couldn't come up with this miracle device.:?::?::?:

Bruce R Leech - 7-29-2008 at 09:23 AM

it is the old magnets on the fuel line trick but with a high tec looking control box that they put in the glove compartment:lol:

spike - 7-29-2008 at 10:19 AM

A low tech way to improve mileage on any car is using a system of driving , called "Hyper Driving". They claim that if you use all of the methodology you can gain 20%. I have used it a little and I am sure that in real life driving conditions; ie: other drivers on the road, you could , depending on your present driving habits, gain 10% or so. The bonus is it costs you nothing, and does make you a more aware driver.
Mike

comitan - 7-29-2008 at 10:34 AM

The simplest was to improve your gas mileage is to drive as tho there is an egg under the throttle.

Bruce R Leech - 7-29-2008 at 10:54 AM

also drive as though you have no brakes

vandenberg - 7-29-2008 at 11:07 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Bruce R Leech
also drive as though you have no brakes


Bruce,
That's my Jeep, but still get horrible mileage.:no::biggrin:

spike - 7-29-2008 at 12:55 PM

Bruce and Comitan have pretty much nailed what is now called Hyper Driving. Once again proving there is not much new under the sun!(or truck hood)

Taco de Baja - 7-29-2008 at 01:00 PM

Baja related bumper stickers can add up to an additional 5% in MPG over vehicles that don't have them.

Bajafun777 - 7-29-2008 at 01:32 PM

Better yet get on two wheels and "live to ride" or "ride to live" both work for me!!!! Just have to be alert at all times but riding on the coast on a bike, well can not really put the words to what you need to experience yourself. Done this several times frome El Centro to Ensenada, Tecate, T.J. and of course all parts of San Diego. Got to mention less stress worrying about where to park never have that issue on bike:lol:. Oh, I almost forgot get your 40 miles or more per gallon and you can still have that throttle pulled back with only the feel of the wind and smell of the great outdoors. Later------------------------------- bajafun777

Cypress - 7-29-2008 at 03:33 PM

It's on the same intellectual level as "Why don't the oil companies drill in the areas where they already have leases to drill in?".:D

rpleger - 7-29-2008 at 04:27 PM

Magnets on the fuel line ....Hmmmmmmm

TMW - 7-30-2008 at 07:23 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by grover
Never tried one, but everything I've read about hydrogen generation contends that it takes more energy to separate the water molecule than is generated by the combustion of hydrogen generated by doing so.

In other words, a variation on the perpetual motion machine canard.

They say "...The Fuel Cell...* draws 15 amps..." so whatever the system does as a whole includes the drag on the engine necessary to accomplish that.

The other elements: "...The system also uses six powerful magnets that ionize the gasoline...a specially formulated “covalizer” breaks down the covalent bonds of the long chain gas molecules and helps “crack” and vaporize your fuel...[a]special computer controls the car’s existing computer and keeps it from rejecting the savings..."

I'd be really interested to try it after someone I know says it *works.

That particular website is 29 days old.

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*after trying acetone and max tire pressure with unimpressive results, I found that driving 65 instead of 75 gives me 20% better mileage(up from ~20mpg to ~24mpg) on a late 80s Toyota pickup.


Thanks Grover