TMW
Select Nomad
Posts: 10659
Registered: 9-1-2003
Location: Bakersfield, CA
Member Is Offline
|
|
Better Gas Milage
The latest issue of Dusty Times has a piece under Trail Notes about a Hydrogen Assist Fuel Cell. Pro Motors Group set up the Hydrogen kit in a 2006
Ford Fusion that averaged 25-28 mpg. They did a cross country test and the car got an impressive 55mpg at an average speed of 65mph using reg gas. The
kits are available on line at Pro Motors Group Corp for $995. http://pmgumpg.com
Has anyone used one or something similar?
|
|
|
Bruce R Leech
Elite Nomad
Posts: 6796
Registered: 9-20-2004
Location: Ensenada formerly Mulege
Member Is Offline
Mood: A lot cooler than Mulege
|
|
don't wast your money on these gadgets that don't do anything.
Bruce R Leech
Ensenada
 |
|
|
Mexicali_Kid
Junior Nomad
Posts: 45
Registered: 7-15-2008
Member Is Offline
|
|
TW... weren't you paying attention in physics class? Those things don't work.
|
|
|
thebajarunner
Ultra Nomad
Posts: 3718
Registered: 9-8-2003
Location: Arizona....."Free at last from crumbling Cali
Member Is Offline
Mood: muy amable
|
|
Yep, every couple of years the best inventors come up with something that will guarantee up to 100 mpg.
Awesome discoveries, for sure,
And then, sure enough, the oil companies pool their funds and buy the creation and we all go back to the pumps.
Oh, I almost forgot,
if you read the fishing magazines the ads always have a lure that catches very large fish on every cast.....
(s) P.T. Barnum
|
|
|
Bruce R Leech
Elite Nomad
Posts: 6796
Registered: 9-20-2004
Location: Ensenada formerly Mulege
Member Is Offline
Mood: A lot cooler than Mulege
|
|
♦International Tesla Electric Co., dba Hi-Tech, is advertising fuel savings devices called PICC (Pre-Ignition Catalytic Converter) and the HAFC
(Hydro Assist Fuel Cell). According to the company, both are supposed to create a 50 percent increase in gas mileage. The BBB requested independent
substantiation of this claim. The company did not respond. Seven attorneys general have taken action against Dennis Lee, one of the principals.
Bruce R Leech
Ensenada
|
|
|
comitan
Ultra Nomad
Posts: 4177
Registered: 3-27-2004
Location: La Paz
Member Is Offline
Mood: mellow
|
|
Seems to me that if it was as good as advertised it would be in the national news networks. They wouldn't have to be making Hybrid or electric cars.
With all their millions the big automakers couldn't come up with this miracle device.
Strive For The Ideal, But Deal With What\'s Real.
Every day is a new day, better than the day before.(from some song)
Lord, Keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.
“The sincere pursuit of truth requires you to entertain the possibility that everything you believe to be true may in fact be false”
|
|
|
Bruce R Leech
Elite Nomad
Posts: 6796
Registered: 9-20-2004
Location: Ensenada formerly Mulege
Member Is Offline
Mood: A lot cooler than Mulege
|
|
it is the old magnets on the fuel line trick but with a high tec looking control box that they put in the glove compartment
Bruce R Leech
Ensenada
|
|
|
spike
Junior Nomad
Posts: 52
Registered: 10-5-2006
Location: north looking south
Member Is Offline
|
|
A low tech way to improve mileage on any car is using a system of driving , called "Hyper Driving". They claim that if you use all of the methodology
you can gain 20%. I have used it a little and I am sure that in real life driving conditions; ie: other drivers on the road, you could , depending on
your present driving habits, gain 10% or so. The bonus is it costs you nothing, and does make you a more aware driver.
Mike
|
|
|
comitan
Ultra Nomad
Posts: 4177
Registered: 3-27-2004
Location: La Paz
Member Is Offline
Mood: mellow
|
|
The simplest was to improve your gas mileage is to drive as tho there is an egg under the throttle.
Strive For The Ideal, But Deal With What\'s Real.
Every day is a new day, better than the day before.(from some song)
Lord, Keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.
“The sincere pursuit of truth requires you to entertain the possibility that everything you believe to be true may in fact be false”
|
|
|
Bruce R Leech
Elite Nomad
Posts: 6796
Registered: 9-20-2004
Location: Ensenada formerly Mulege
Member Is Offline
Mood: A lot cooler than Mulege
|
|
also drive as though you have no brakes
Bruce R Leech
Ensenada
|
|
|
vandenberg
Elite Nomad
Posts: 5118
Registered: 6-21-2005
Location: Nopolo
Member Is Offline
Mood: mellow
|
|
| Quote: | Originally posted by Bruce R Leech
also drive as though you have no brakes |
Bruce,
That's my Jeep, but still get horrible mileage. 
|
|
|
spike
Junior Nomad
Posts: 52
Registered: 10-5-2006
Location: north looking south
Member Is Offline
|
|
Bruce and Comitan have pretty much nailed what is now called Hyper Driving. Once again proving there is not much new under the sun!(or truck hood)
|
|
|
Taco de Baja
Super Nomad
Posts: 1913
Registered: 4-14-2004
Location: Behind the Orange Curtain, CA
Member Is Offline
Mood: Dreamin' of Baja
|
|
Baja related bumper stickers can add up to an additional 5% in MPG over vehicles that don't have them.
Truth generally lies in the coordination of antagonistic opinions
-Herbert Spencer
|
|
|
Bajafun777
Super Nomad
Posts: 1103
Registered: 9-13-2006
Location: Rosarito & California
Member Is Offline
Mood: Enjoying Life with Wife In Mexico, Easy on The Easy
|
|
Better yet get on two wheels and "live to ride" or "ride to live" both work for me!!!! Just have to be alert at all times but riding on the coast on
a bike, well can not really put the words to what you need to experience yourself. Done this several times frome El Centro to Ensenada, Tecate, T.J.
and of course all parts of San Diego. Got to mention less stress worrying about where to park never have that issue on bike. Oh, I almost forgot get your 40 miles or more per gallon and you can still have
that throttle pulled back with only the feel of the wind and smell of the great outdoors. Later------------------------------- bajafun777
|
|
|
Cypress
Elite Nomad
Posts: 7641
Registered: 3-12-2006
Location: on the bayou
Member Is Offline
Mood: undecided
|
|
It's on the same intellectual level as "Why don't the oil companies drill in the areas where they already have leases to drill in?".
|
|
|
rpleger
Super Nomad
Posts: 1087
Registered: 3-12-2005
Location: H. Mulegé, BCS
Member Is Offline
Mood: Was good.
|
|
Magnets on the fuel line ....Hmmmmmmm
Richard on the Hill
*ABROAD*, adj. At war with savages and idiots. To be a Frenchman abroad is to
be miserable; to be an American abroad is to make others miserable.
-- Ambrose Bierce, _The Enlarged Devil\'s Dictionary_
|
|
|
TMW
Select Nomad
Posts: 10659
Registered: 9-1-2003
Location: Bakersfield, CA
Member Is Offline
|
|
| Quote: | Originally posted by grover
Never tried one, but everything I've read about hydrogen generation contends that it takes more energy to separate the water molecule than is
generated by the combustion of hydrogen generated by doing so.
In other words, a variation on the perpetual motion machine canard.
They say "...The Fuel Cell...* draws 15 amps..." so whatever the system does as a whole includes the drag on the engine necessary to accomplish that.
The other elements: "...The system also uses six powerful magnets that ionize the gasoline...a specially formulated “covalizer” breaks down the
covalent bonds of the long chain gas molecules and helps “crack” and vaporize your fuel...[a]special computer controls the car’s existing computer and
keeps it from rejecting the savings..."
I'd be really interested to try it after someone I know says it *works.
That particular website is 29 days old.
Domain Name: PMGUMPG.COM
Registrar: GODADDY.COM INC.
Whois Server: whois.godaddy.com
Referral URL: http://registrar.godaddy.com
Name Server: NS31.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
Name Server: NS32.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
...
Updated Date: 30-jun-2008
Creation Date: 30-jun-2008
Expiration Date: 30-jun-2009
*after trying acetone and max tire pressure with unimpressive results, I found that driving 65 instead of 75 gives me 20% better mileage(up from
~20mpg to ~24mpg) on a late 80s Toyota pickup. |
Thanks Grover
|
|
|
![[*]](images/xmbforum/default_icon.gif){kind=icon}
