Tropical Getaway for sale

Oasis Rio

Ask him if the contract is in English or Spanish.

Foreign language contracts have no validity in the Mexican legal system.


RE: the main issue, he says "With the salescontract you will be the rightful owner of the dwelling." THE DWELLING - get it?
You buy the house, but pay ground rent on the landlord's 10 year terms.

Clear as mud

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Originally posted by Baja&Back Ask him if the contract is in English or Spanish. Foreign language contracts have no validity in the Mexican legal system. RE: the main issue, he says "With the salescontract you will be the rightful owner of the dwelling." THE DWELLING - get it? You buy the house, but pay ground rent on the landlord's 10 year terms. Clear as mud

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Originally posted by Baja&Back Clear as mud

Yes, I can see it now, almost.
Thanks !

My check is not in the mail.

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Originally posted by rocklobster It was my understanding that U2U's are more of a private message. I guess that I expected too much and common sense and behavior is not very well practiced these days anymore amongst most species. Furthermore, the remark "no title-no ownership-period" I translate as "no knowledge-but I think I know it all".

So why did you choose to respond by U2 to a posted question on the board ?
What were you hiding by not reponding in public ?
Do you consider your U2 to be "private" ?
Are you trying to hide something ?
What ?

You just go ahead and take that little piece of paper that says you own the building on someone else's land and see if it's worth anything when the owner decides to bulldoze your house or discontinue your lease. Maybe you think that the Mexican courts will defend you !

You are either really gullible or really crooked.
Which is it ??

The actual ownership of the properties on both sides of the Mulege River is only as good as the paper it's written on. Leases expire, people die, heirs appear, laws change, storms arrive, etc. It's worth it to some, not to others.

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Originally posted by lencho Quote: Originally posted by Diver What were you hiding by not reponding in public ? Do you consider your U2 to be "private" ? Whatever his (her?) motivation for going private with this, I personally consider it a major violation of community trust to publish anybody's U2U messages on an open forum without permission of the author. Though to tell the truth, I had no clue as to whom, or source of what you were quoting until (s)he complained. --Larry

Louis and Louis ?

Wouldn't that be Lewis and Lewis to most folks that would sue them.

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Originally posted by Diver Louis and Louis ? Wouldn't that be Lewis and Lewis to most folks that would sue them.

"and runs the place like a polish sausage factory."

Jonesin, you are spot on. When someone says parts of the Oasis went unaffected by Juan they are in fantasia land.
all you had to do was look at the videos Bruce shot, hell the water mark was 8 ' down to Jungle Jims! Oasis was west of that fercrissakes.....

once again - only invest what you can afford to lose and/or walk away from. a golden rule for foreign entanglements, which is what any vaca place is sooner or later.

but my real Q is - what's up with a polish sausage factory?? i love those weenies.

I was told by many don't buy what you can't afford to walk away from in Mexico. Bought and haven't regretted it yet; D

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Originally posted by roundtuit I was told by many don't buy what you can't afford to walk away from in Mexico. Bought and haven't regretted it yet; D

If the seller had represented the "sale" correctly as a purchase of improvements only with a land lease, this thread wouldn't have taken the course it has.

A lease isn't necessarily a bad thing and can fit many, but needs full discloser upfront.


Ken

I just now noticed the "seller" has deleted all his responses.

[Edited on 8-8-2008 by tripledigitken]

Bruce R Leech, Have a copy of your flood tape. Thanks. A picture speaks a thousand words. Factoring in the lease situations, the need for lawyering-up in hopes that everything is on the up and up(they might not even be lawyers) and a host of other tangled, twisted and convaluted issues. I'll pass on attempting to buy property in Mulege or anywhere else in Mexico. But that's easy for me. I'm broke.

I learned something in this thread. Yes, this is the proper place to post ideas about the original post.
Oh yeah...and how about the part where "the insurance company ran out of money". That is the best joke of the day
Insurance companies are bankrupting the US (just like oil companies) that see the end of private healthcare and are getting the most profit before that part of their scam runs out.

Now hear this all of you liquored up Gringos!!!

My summary of what I learned as a member/newbe of Baja N.
First of all for everybody to better understand.
I live here permanently in Baja.
My wife is Mexican and my inlaws are both Lawyers. He is Real Estate. Not Contracts but practicing in R.E. law in Court.
She is Criminal Defense.
I was reading BN for some time before placing this ad. My inlaws also suggested o place REAL FACTS about Real Estate in Mexico. Upfront: That will not happen after all the Bullchit responses to my ad. Here's why:
i.e. rpleger! He lives in Mulege and knows that the Oasis Park is completely restored and no signs of a flood are visible today. And that's what I said "No signs of a flood in my house" Congrats you are BULLSH-TER #1

i.e. Diver! He knows nothing about Mexican Real Estate law but stated quote "take that little piece of paper and wait until the owner decides to bulldoze it away(the property)"
More Bullchit.
I know what happened on the East Cape three years ago w/ that RV Park. That happened because none of the "elite" gringos were smart enough to hire an expert mexican real estate lawyer.
I know what happened with Santispac. But that is not comparable to the Oasis Park in Mulege. That is a totally different ballgame.
Then he posted U2Us in the forum stating as an excuse that he did not enclose the identity of the sender.
Hey Diver! Not all others in here are *******************

i.e. jonesinbaja(oh boy do we have a smartone here)
A "newbie"??? I don't think so. You are probably another old fart with a new nick. Well he pounded me with "selling a rippoff to unsuspected public". Only to admit a second later that he sold his rippoff a year earlier.
Good one
And he had 9ft of mud and dead animals in his house.
There was no house all over Mulege with nine feet of mud in it. I guess your vision was double by the amount of Brandy still left in your drunk ass.
The only reported dead animal was a horse. Maybe it was trapped in his house???
Maybe he wanted to open a business scam by running a Polish Sausage co. in Mulege. That's why he tied his dogs to the stove before leaving for the U.S. so when he came back there was a for sure supply of meat for his Wieners.
I agree , Mulege people are wonderful. But there are mostly Mexicans. Unfortunately there are Scumbags there too. But they are not Mexicans.
If the insurance co. denied to pay 100% of his claim then they certainly had a good reason. Maybe he sold his ripoff to a stupid Gringo that fell of the bus. Made more profit then the coverage was and now is complaining that the insurance co. is bankrupt

To vivaloha: I can not take advice from these "veterans" because I know that a lot of them start getting sh-tfaced in the morning. Just go to Mulege anyday, you'll find some specimens at the bars.
And not all of them live here year round.

To martyman: you got the point. Lots of Bullchit and their producers on here.

To the host of BajaNomad:
Your board is certainly filled up with some "veterans".
With the exception of Bruce Leech and Lancho. They seem to have standards and are worthy of a good conversation.
Sorry if I forgot someone but I don't read everything anymore.
Suggestion: Delete the entire thread and delete me as a member. This is below my standards.

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Originally posted by Martyman I learned something in this thread. Yes, this is the proper place to post ideas about the original post. Oh yeah...and how about the part where "the insurance company ran out of money". That is the best joke of the day Insurance companies are bankrupting the US (just like oil companies) that see the end of private healthcare and are getting the most profit before that part of their scam runs out.

rocklobster, The key phrase,"If you're not ready to walk(swim, run?) away from it", applies. Heck! You might not even own the property to begin with.

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Originally posted by rocklobster .... And he had 9ft of mud and dead animals in his house. There was no house all over Mulege with nine feet of mud in it. I guess your vision was double by the amount of Brandy still left in your drunk burro.

And you, sir, must use a ruler as a yardstick. I was in Mulege in October 2006, visited some of the places along the Rio. The following pictures were a common site - and I do believe the ceiling here is 9 feet tall. Mud all over that baby.



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Nena

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[Edited on 8-10-2008 by BajaNomad]

Now that the monster has been exposed .....

Notice that Rocky-the-Lobster never answered a single question.
But he/she is really good at throwing fits and insults.

WTF

Ok let me get this straight. You people who dislike MULEGE because it had a flood...get a life. Do you dis everyone who had a disaster or flood. WTF??
It's that type of attitude that makes our country disliked. Some of you think that only fools live in flood-prone places.

Ok, that's your opinion. You might be safe out away from rivers and the ocean, but you might not.

How many people live in areas of risk?
It's something like 9 out of 10 globally.

Ok, I will cease talking about or posting about Mulege if you insist on referencing it. I'll just hang tight till a freaking earthquake takes out your place then I'll exclaim "why would you people live on an active or ancient fault"

Don't worry, I' m just about done.


As far as the lease goes, why should you give a ratsass? You certainly will be better off just ignoring the place, the WHOLE place. The town is better off w/o you people cutting down the town every chance you get. It's more to you than a lease/purchase
Problem is some of you won't let that happen. You would prefer to see it as nena does. Of course some folks will always turn tail and run from disaster. It's these type of events that expose and reveal mans' (and womens') true inner makeup.

While some would seek to help others in need some would steal your stuff and run away. You just never know really how that person will react to something devastating.

Those of you who sit high on your mighty horse may find themselves among others of the same notions. That would be poetic justice imo. These people could care less about your problems. You can bet on that!!

Thank you Bruce for being honest and fair to the new guy
and helping folks when in need.

Quite frankly the ugliest people in Mexico I have come to communicate with and listen to the last couple of years are some Americans who post here.

I would not go out in a boat with them.

btw, nobody had mud 8' high. Water with mud yes

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Well said Sharks. This should shut up afew who only visit for a few weeks every other year. An become experts

Most of these homes are camps. The majority of the people that own them, or think they own them, don't live in 'em full time, just visit now and then. There's a small group of year 'round residents, hardy souls, that manage very well come hell or high water. You can bet they have all their leases, titles, etc. in order.

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Originally posted by Sharksbaja Ok let me get this straight. You people who dislike MULEGE because it had a flood...get a life. Do you dis everyone who had a disaster or flood. WTF?? It's that type of attitude that makes our country disliked. Some of you think that only fools live in flood-prone places. Ok, that's your opinion. You might be safe out away from rivers and the ocean, but you might not. How many people live in areas of risk? It's something like 9 out of 10 globally. Ok, I will cease talking about or posting about Mulege if you insist on referencing it. I'll just hang tight till a freaking earthquake takes out your place then I'll exclaim "why would you people live on an active or ancient fault" Don't worry, I' m just about done. As far as the lease goes, why should you give a ratsass? You certainly will be better off just ignoring the place, the WHOLE place. The town is better off w/o you people cutting down the town every chance you get. It's more to you than a lease/purchase Problem is some of you won't let that happen. You would prefer to see it as nena does. Of course some folks will always turn tail and run from disaster. It's these type of events that expose and reveal mans' (and womens') true inner makeup. While some would seek to help others in need some would steal your stuff and run away. You just never know really how that person will react to something devastating. Those of you who sit high on your mighty horse may find themselves among others of the same notions. That would be poetic justice imo. These people could care less about your problems. You can bet on that!! Thank you Bruce for being honest and fair to the new guy and helping folks when in need. Quite frankly the ugliest people in Mexico I have come to communicate with and listen to the last couple of years are some Americans who post here. I would not go out in a boat with them. btw, nobody had mud 8' high. Water with mud yes [Edited on 8-10-2008 by Sharksbaja]

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Originally posted by Cypress Most of these homes are camps. The majority of the people that own them, or think they own them, don't live in 'em full time, just visit now and then. There's a small group of year 'round residents, hardy souls, that manage very well come hell or high water. You can bet they have all their leases, titles, etc. in order.

Udo, What hotel was that? And who're you quoting?

loki, Thanks for the reply.

Obvious ownership? Untill some remote relative with a lawyer and a claim that was somehow overlooked, but can be resolved for a small fee. And on and on.

Art, sounds like a very bad attempt to just get a reaction out of you. I guess trolling has gone to email now?