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rocklobster
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Tropical Getaway for sale
[Edited on 8-10-2008 by rocklobster]
[Edited on 8-10-2008 by rocklobster]
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Diver
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Hmmm.... lease or title ??
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rpleger
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How high up did the flood waters go?
Richard on the Hill
*ABROAD*, adj. At war with savages and idiots. To be a Frenchman abroad is to
be miserable; to be an American abroad is to make others miserable.
-- Ambrose Bierce, _The Enlarged Devil\'s Dictionary_
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awfulart
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Oasis Rio
I believe property in Oasis Rio is all on a lease. The water level on some of the properties was some 7 ft as I understand it. Of course, this
would depend on its location in the park. I believe some properties had little or no damage. I believe everything is pretty much back to normal,
for now.
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bancoduo
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| Quote: | Originally posted by rpleger
How high up did the flood waters go? |
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rocklobster
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[Edited on 8-10-2008 by rocklobster]
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Diver
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Diver
Hmmm.... lease or title ?? |
To this question I received this response;
Hola,
The way it works is this.
All buildings in the Oasis have a clear title.
The buyer will be the legal owner without fidocomiso. The contract will be done by the Park owner/landlord and the buyer. The seller will also sign
the sale.
Please send me your e-mail address so I can send you some pics.
I responded as follows;
If title is not transferred in the sale, I am not interested. What you propose is not a legally enforceable agreement or it is a lease;
And the last response to me;
It seems you do not understand how this works.
With the salescontract you will be the rightful owner of the dwelling.
Nobody needs a fidocomiso in the Oasis Park.
Therefore the salescontract makes everything legal.
Seems someone doesn't understand and I don't think it's me !! No title; no ownership ! Period !
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Baja&Back
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Ask him if the contract is in English or Spanish.
Foreign language contracts have no validity in the Mexican legal system.
RE: the main issue, he says "With the salescontract you will be the rightful owner of the dwelling." THE DWELLING - get it?
You buy the house, but pay ground rent on the landlord's 10 year terms.
Clear as mud 
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DianaT
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Baja&Back
Ask him if the contract is in English or Spanish.
Foreign language contracts have no validity in the Mexican legal system.
RE: the main issue, he says "With the salescontract you will be the rightful owner of the dwelling." THE DWELLING - get it?
You buy the house, but pay ground rent on the landlord's 10 year terms.
Clear as mud |
Yes, clear as mud.
Diane
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Diver
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Baja&Back
Clear as mud |
Yes, I can see it now, almost. 
Thanks !
My check is not in the mail.
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rocklobster
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[Edited on 8-10-2008 by rocklobster]
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Diver
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| Quote: | Originally posted by rocklobster
It was my understanding that U2U's are more of a private message. I guess that I expected too much and common sense and behavior is not very well
practiced these days anymore amongst most species.
Furthermore, the remark "no title-no ownership-period" I translate as "no knowledge-but I think I know it all".
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So why did you choose to respond by U2 to a posted question on the board ?
What were you hiding by not reponding in public ?
Do you consider your U2 to be "private" ?
Are you trying to hide something ?
What ?
You just go ahead and take that little piece of paper that says you own the building on someone else's land and see if it's worth anything when the
owner decides to bulldoze your house or discontinue your lease. Maybe you think that the Mexican courts will defend you !
You are either really gullible or really crooked.
Which is it ??
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DENNIS
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Can you put some fotos up here so we can all see it? Just curious. Thanks.
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Cypress
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The actual ownership of the properties on both sides of the Mulege River is only as good as the paper it's written on. Leases expire, people die, heirs appear, laws change, storms arrive, etc. It's worth it
to some, not to others.
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Diver
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| Quote: | Originally posted by lencho
| Quote: | Originally posted by Diver
What were you hiding by not reponding in public ?
Do you consider your U2 to be "private" ? |
Whatever his (her?) motivation for going private with this, I personally consider it a major violation of community trust to publish
anybody's U2U messages on an open forum without permission of the author.
Though to tell the truth, I had no clue as to whom, or source of what you were quoting until (s)he complained.
--Larry |
I specifically did not include the identity of the U2'er.
I simply wanted to post the information for others to see.
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jonesinbaja
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How interesting.
Another Mulege resident trying to dump another ripoff property deal on an unsuspecting public. It is indeed a lease and if you are lucky enough to
even sell it before the next hurricane, this land owner charges a fee for him to issue a new lease. This is after he levies what he calculates a fair
capital gain on any profit you might have gained. I know as I sold my place there last year and had the fake capital gains payment hoisted upon me
after I had made a deal on my place. I paid it and and ended up renting on higher ground for a lot less headache.
I made a full disclosure about the lack of any real legal security to the new buyer of my lease as the landowner does not use the Notario Publico in
Santa Rosalia for his leases and runs the place like a polish sausage factory.
Just for the record. I had 9 feet of mud, feces and dead animals in my house after Hurricane John and my insurance company paid out 15% on my claim
and dumped my coverage afterwards.
Mulege and its people are wonderful but beware of the scams there as they seem to think another stupid gringo will fall off the bus everyday.
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BajaWarrior
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| Quote: | Originally posted by jonesinbaja
How interesting.
Another Mulege resident trying to dump another ripoff property deal on an unsuspecting public. It is indeed a lease and if you are lucky enough to
even sell it before the next hurricane, this land owner charges a fee for him to issue a new lease. This is after he levies what he calculates a fair
capital gain on any profit you might have gained. I know as I sold my place there last year and had the fake capital gains payment hoisted upon me
after I had made a deal on my place. I paid it and and ended up renting on higher ground for a lot less headache.
I made a full disclosure about the lack of any real legal security to the new buyer of my lease as the landowner does not use the Notario Publico in
Santa Rosalia for his leases and runs the place like a polish sausage factory.
Just for the record. I had 9 feet of mud, feces and dead animals in my house after Hurricane John and my insurance company paid out 15% on my claim
and dumped my coverage afterwards.
Mulege and its people are wonderful but beware of the scams there as they seem to think another stupid gringo will fall off the bus everyday.
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Gotta ask, which Insurance Company?
Haven't had a bad trip yet....
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by jonesinbaja
How interesting.
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Welcome to BajaNomad, Jones. Thanks for the eye opening info. I don't suppose I'll be seeing those fotos now. Oh well, I wasn't shopping anyway.
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jonesinbaja
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BajaWarrior
| Quote: | Originally posted by jonesinbaja
How interesting.
Another Mulege resident trying to dump another ripoff property deal on an unsuspecting public. It is indeed a lease and if you are lucky enough to
even sell it before the next hurricane, this land owner charges a fee for him to issue a new lease. This is after he levies what he calculates a fair
capital gain on any profit you might have gained. I know as I sold my place there last year and had the fake capital gains payment hoisted upon me
after I had made a deal on my place. I paid it and and ended up renting on higher ground for a lot less headache.
I made a full disclosure about the lack of any real legal security to the new buyer of my lease as the landowner does not use the Notario Publico in
Santa Rosalia for his leases and runs the place like a polish sausage factory.
Just for the record. I had 9 feet of mud, feces and dead animals in my house after Hurricane John and my insurance company paid out 15% on my claim
and dumped my coverage afterwards.
Mulege and its people are wonderful but beware of the scams there as they seem to think another stupid gringo will fall off the bus everyday.
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Gotta ask, which Insurance Company? |
A mexican one whose policy was sold by Louis and Louis out of California. I am in litigation with Louis and Louis as I can not win in a Mexican court.
I was told by the adjuster that they had paid only the early claims but had run out of money.
If it was not so pathetic, it would be funny. Insure with american companies as the Mexican ones are a gamble at best.
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Diver
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Louis and Louis ?
Wouldn't that be Lewis and Lewis to most folks that would sue them.
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