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16 bodies in TJ this morning

Shark18 - 9-29-2008 at 09:03 AM

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Tijuana BC 29 de septiembre de 20080 (AFN).- Los cadáveres de por lo menos 16 personas aparecieron esta mañana en dos puntos de la ciudad. El primer evento criminal se reportó alrededor de las cuatro de la madrugada en la colonia Sepanal por la Vía Rápida Poniente donde hay cuatro cuerpos segun confirmaron las autoridades. El.otro hecho fue notificado alrededor de las ocho horas de hoy en la colonia Las Delicias en Mesa de Otay donde se hizo otro macabro descubrimiento ya que hay entre once y doce cuerpos de personas ejecutadas.

fdt - 9-29-2008 at 09:30 AM

Up to 18 now.

http://www.frontera.info/EdicionEnLinea/Notas/Noticias/29092...




[Edited on 9-29-2008 by fdt]

Hook - 9-29-2008 at 09:33 AM

I'd like to change my answer in the Are you Scared of TJ post.

Lackey's start against the Angels has fallen to second place...........barely.

DianaT - 9-29-2008 at 09:35 AM

Dang, that is just AWFUL.

My thoughts are with all the good people Tijuana---the violence is so very sad for all of them.

Diane

Paranoid?

Dave - 9-29-2008 at 10:00 AM

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Originally posted by Hook
I'd like to change my answer in the Are you Scared of TJ post.


This wasn't a random act of violence. ;D

fdt - 9-29-2008 at 10:16 AM

And Rosarito had it's share also

http://www.frontera.info/EdicionEnLinea/Notas/Noticias/28092...

Shark18 - 9-29-2008 at 10:43 AM

It appears that not too many people in Baja have Bajagringo's "street smarts".

:rolleyes:

Woooosh - 9-29-2008 at 10:50 AM

The street racers in Rosarito (popotla blvd area mostly) have been tearing it up for a while. This incident says gunfire from one racing truck into another racing truck killed three- including an off-duty fireman.

Luckily all this stuff happens way after my bedtime. And again- at least they took the tourist season off.

bajabound2005 - 9-29-2008 at 11:09 AM

Sixteen dead in Tijuana drug slayings
Mon Sep 29, 2008 1:40pm EDT
TIJUANA, Mexico (Reuters) - Police found 16 bodies dumped in the seedy Mexican border city of Tijuana on Monday in what the state attorney general's office said could be a revenge attack for the arrest of a local drug gang hit man.

Twelve bodies were left in a heap with plastic bags tied over their heads within view of a primary school in the east of the city. The school was closed for the day but local residents gathered on rooftops of nearby houses to gape at the victims, who had been shot in the head.

Four other bodies were dumped, bound with tape, in front of the national attorney general's office in Tijuana -- a find typical of the drug killings plaguing Mexico as the country's powerful cartels fight the army and each other.

Warning messages left with both groups of bodies indicated the killings could be a response to the arrest at the weekend, reportedly triggered by a tip-off, of a hit man working for the Arellano Felix cartel, Tijuana's main drug gang.

"We are not ruling out that it is a reaction to the arrest of one of the most important members of the Arellano Felix cartel," a spokesman for the Baja California state attorney general's office said.

The dozen men, apparently killed in the early hours of Monday, were dumped in an abandoned lot by a wall bearing a painting of state Gov. Jose Guadalupe Osuna.

Border cities like Tijuana, south of San Diego, are key battlegrounds in a bloody war between Mexico's drug cartels and security forces that has killed around 3,000 people this year.

President Felipe Calderon has made fighting the cartels a central plank of his presidency, but violence has escalated to unprecedented levels since he took power in late 2006.

Drug gang hit men launched their first major strike on the general public this month with a grenade attack on a crowd celebrating a national holiday in Calderon's home city.

(Reporting by Lizbeth Diaz; Writing by Catherine Bremer)

slimshady - 9-29-2008 at 11:19 AM

Do they know if the killed are invoved in the drug cartels? If so no big deal. L.A. county gets about 12 to 15 homicides every weekend. Oh and that does not get reported, since it is not as dramatic.

BajaGringo - 9-29-2008 at 11:32 AM

A sign was left at the scene saying this is what happens to those who work with the "engineer" (ingeniero). The engineer is ingeniero Fernando Sánchez Arellano. Most think it was done by "El Teo", Teodoro García Simental, against the Arellano family.

They never seem to run out of bodies to replace the ones killed.

Sad...

fishbuck - 9-29-2008 at 01:58 PM

Don't use drugs! Drugs kill in many different ways.
Still not scared of going to Baja.
In fact this may cut down traffic a little more. Still a couple good fishing months left.
I must say this is another compelling reason to use my airplane for ravel in Baja.

Bruce R Leech - 9-29-2008 at 02:14 PM

Drug gang hit men launched their first major strike on the general public this month with a grenade attack on a crowd celebrating a national

this is very disturbing

Wait until they get

Bajajack - 9-29-2008 at 02:43 PM

their first shipment of new RPG's from Nicaragua, then the real fireworks will begin.:rolleyes:

palmeto99 - 9-29-2008 at 02:51 PM

Its starting. Wait until they start to get serious about making their point with the government and really start killing the innocents. Where is the protection for the Mexican people.

Sources please

vgabndo - 9-29-2008 at 02:59 PM

BajaJack...what is the documentation for your statement involving Central America?

And what does "take what you can, give nothing back!" mean?

If it is your personal philosophy, don't bother responding, I'll just ignore your post.

Cypress - 9-29-2008 at 03:03 PM

Some families are gonna be grieving.:no:

palmeto99 - 9-29-2008 at 03:16 PM

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Originally posted by vgabndo
BajaJack...what is the documentation for your statement involving Central America?

And what does "take what you can, give nothing back!" mean?

If it is your personal philosophy, don't bother responding, I'll just ignore your post.



Its better than the message under yours,old fool.

If I quoted my sources

Bajajack - 9-29-2008 at 03:45 PM

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Originally posted by vgabndo
BajaJack...what is the documentation for your statement involving Central America?

And what does "take what you can, give nothing back!" mean?

If it is your personal philosophy, don't bother responding, I'll just ignore your post.
it would fly over your noggin like everything else.:lol:

vgabndo - 9-29-2008 at 03:57 PM

I did a little research on you on the Off Topic forum. I wasn't quick enough to revise my post to prevent the obvious answer.

I wish you good luck on what I judge will be a long long walk to enlightenment.

Sorry...:(

Hook - 9-29-2008 at 08:47 PM

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Originally posted by Dave
Quote:
Originally posted by Hook
I'd like to change my answer in the Are you Scared of TJ post.


This wasn't a random act of violence. ;D


And my response wasn't a random act of humor.........it was measured.

It's baseball playoffs time, Dave. Nothing more important than that.

tjBill - 9-29-2008 at 09:00 PM

One group of bodies, 11, was found in the colonia, "Otay Constituyentes." That's a upscale neighborhood.

Shark18 - 9-30-2008 at 12:01 AM

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Originally posted by tjBill
One group of bodies, 11, was found in the colonia, "Otay Constituyentes." That's a upscale neighborhood.


They tossed them in a vacant lot next to a grammar school. By the way, the count is up to 25 for the day.

woody with a view - 9-30-2008 at 07:39 AM

some had their tongues cut out!

real classy. WTF is wrong with some people?

Shark18 - 9-30-2008 at 08:53 AM

The tote board is short, another 6 bodies this morning. The TJ morgue announced they are overflowing and have no place to put all the bodies.

But, there is good news. President Calderon announced last night that Mexico would have "zero tolerance" for corruption.

Sometimes one just has to bow to the absurd.
:lol:

Woooosh - 9-30-2008 at 09:06 AM

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Originally posted by Shark18
The tote board is short, another 6 bodies this morning. The TJ morgue announced they are overflowing and have no place to put all the bodies.

But, there is good news. President Calderon announced last night that Mexico would have "zero tolerance" for corruption.

Sometimes one just has to bow to the absurd.
:lol:


Even more absurd- the morgue posts photos of unclaimed bodies on the net.

Don't eat lunch before clicking this link....

http://periciales.pgjebc.gob.mx/semefo.htm

woody with a view - 9-30-2008 at 09:16 AM

unreal how that stuff is in the public domain. i guess they REALLY want to ID these people.

Woooosh - 9-30-2008 at 09:31 AM

The TJ news is reporting there were two survivors of the massacre- one 12 and one 14 years old. Most of the vitims were from the same family. They are interviewing the two to see what they can disclose.

The news also reported that a camera at the elementary school where some of the bodeis were dumped was non-operational. geeesh.

k-rico - 9-30-2008 at 09:35 AM

Bad guys killing rival bad guys and the dead guys are affiliated the Arellano cartel, at least I think that's true. I can't read Spanish very well but today's TJ newspaper has 25 murders in the past 24 hours, 32 in the past week, some teenagers as young as 15. TJ, Rosarito, Ensenada, and Tecate.

I remember trying to read the story about the big shoot out between cartels several months ago. One thing I got out of it was that the maniacs were mostly in their early 20s.

This is really getting serious

Shark18 - 9-30-2008 at 11:52 PM

I was just reading in "Frontera" that two of the people killed this morning may have been soldiers and that the cartel is directly challenging the Mexican Army.

They were found with a message that said, "ahí tienes a tu gente Duarte, ven a recogerlos". ["Behold your people Duarte, come and pick them up."] General Alfonso Duarte Mújicae is the general in charge of the Tijuana area and two days ago he held a press conference to annouce they captured a large arsenal of weapons.

gnukid - 10-1-2008 at 12:04 AM

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Originally posted by Shark18
I was just reading in "Frontera" that two of the people killed this morning may have been soldiers and that the cartel is directly challenging the Mexican Army.


The greatest lies are put out in front.