Euro 2004 is where the Football/Soccer teams of countries in Europe play against each other..It only happens like every 4 years..MrBillM - 6-8-2004 at 08:22 PM
That often ? And people pay to watch ? Amazing !NCSteve - 6-8-2004 at 09:58 PM
hehe...Bill must be from the US judging by that response. From a country that crowns *world* champions every year.....
We've got DirectTV and PPV coverage in the US, and luckily I have a friendly sports bar that will be doing breakfast openings during Euro2004. Bloody
Marys and an England win over France Sunday. Sweet !
Hope your find some friendly fans to tune in with BritGirl Me No - 6-8-2004 at 10:26 PM
Brit Girl, You can find some Futbol fans at Sharkys in Cantu.
Sharlys in Punta Banda?? You Yankey style bar with 2 poole tables??
BritishGirl - 6-9-2004 at 01:12 AM
I never typed what the hell that says ..??
BritishGirl - 6-9-2004 at 01:15 AM
Do you mean Sharkys bar in Punta Banda..the Yankey style bar with 2 poole table and trying to be upper class restaurant??JESSE - 6-9-2004 at 02:23 PM
I am a Futbol fan, but unfortunatelly we are very into the Mexican finals, and the Libertadores cup, and the comming Copa America, plus the Fifa
qualifying.
No room left for european soccer after Real Madrids sorry a** results. elgatoloco - 6-9-2004 at 04:43 PM
From Bret Lewis of KFWB: "A survey in the Netherlands shows one in three Dutch men think watching their national team on television at the Euro2004
Games in Portugal is more important than celebrating their wife's birthday. Can you imagine that kind of sensitivity? I mean, for a Laker game, sure.
But soccer?" Bob H - 6-9-2004 at 04:58 PM
Go Lakers! Germanicus - 6-14-2004 at 01:48 PM
American football > Soccer?? > Real football.
Well, I see it this way: The Americans call something football and play it with the hands. The ball is neither a ball but more like an egg.
And as they got no rules other than: anybody has to hit everybody.
If eveybody is hit, jump on each other and pile up!
They call it football because you only can see the foots(feet)of the players piled up.
Soccer? What please is soccer?
Nobody in the world is calling real football >soccer, but the Americans.
But now, Englsih lady, after the French beat the English 2:1 in Portugal, are you mad?
Still want to look football?
Yea, a real fan never gives up hoping on revenge, right?
And that's o.k..
Have fun with what the world calls and let the Americans have their fun with playing with an egg >carried to the other end of the field by
hand while the rest of the players are knocking out each other.
Have fun folks!
Germanicus JESSE - 6-14-2004 at 03:07 PM
England lost to France 2-1
Italy tied Denmark 0-0
Sweden trashed Bulgaria 4-0
And why argue about american "football", we all know that soccer is the king of sports.FrankO - 6-14-2004 at 05:16 PM
"we all know that soccer is the king of sports. "
Just behind hockey. No, really.
I like the drama in soccer. Especially when one guy gets a tiny scratch and has to be carted off the field on a stretcher . All in jest.
Don't forget the best, though, the sport of kings, SURFING!:
[Edited on 6-15-2004 by FrankO]
ouch! a tough loss to the French,
daveB - 6-14-2004 at 09:27 PM
Britishgirl. A miss by Beckham, and two surprises by France after the 90 minute mark. They almost had it won. Canadians call the game "soccer" as
well, Germanicus, we play it after the baseball season, before the outdoor rinks freeze for ice hockey, and just before basketball. I never liked
wearing those shorts out there in the freezing wind as a schoolboy. But I played goal and did have on a pair of gloves.Me No - 6-14-2004 at 10:09 PM
France 2 England 1. Oh the pain! lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:Germanicus - 6-15-2004 at 09:28 AM
Me No ,,,,, that's the most outrages, interesting, wierd, unusual, timeconsuming, etc, etc, etc, etc, posting I ever have seen.
Guess you are a guy with a lot of humor.
And humor euqals intelligence, right?
Look at Djordsch Dubbeljuh-juhu.
He got no humor!
(no politics here, just facts)
Have fun, folks and a nice day
GermanicusGermanicus - 6-15-2004 at 09:35 AM
hey daveb,
don't take it too serious.
I'm not a football fan.
I mean that football the world is calling football.
I just like to play games with people who are taking -whatever it is - too serious.
So, as I'm a rece-fan I'm kidding with those who like Nascar.
Nascar is not racing at all.
It is 'noodlepot-driving'.
Must come from England > only to the left!
Who wants to step into a discusssion about that?
Well we gotto go elsewhere, >> Misc. maybe., as it has nothing to do with Baja Q&A.
Have a nice day, folks
GermanicusPackoderm - 6-15-2004 at 09:39 PM
Soccer is an active persuit which has elements of table tennis and labor while American football is more strategic like chess and war. I've also heard
that American football has capitalist characteristics with its measured gains. Soccer seems to be a more participatory sport where even middle aged
people practice regularly while American football has an excusive quality where only a small handful of jr. high, high school, and college players
actually take to the field. My opinion is that American football is a more manly, rough and tumble game where all wimps must step aside while soccer
is a game where our daughters can develop self esteem. It will probably take several generations before we have a U.S. president who was a soccer hero
in his or her youth. Bob H - 6-16-2004 at 08:18 AM
As with stagnant pace of soccer, the lack of suspense in soccer also appeals to the dimwitted. The goal in many sports is simple - cross a goal line
or base, put something in a basket or net. With sports, there is a progression when such a goal is achieved as two opposing forces compete -
paralleling in some ways the drama of a story. In football, a drive progresses down the field, until one side is victorious in battle and either stops
the drive or completes it with a score - the suspense usually builds as the drive progresses down the field. In basketball, the drama builds as the
team penetrates and kicks out. In hockey, the drama builds as a defense can't recover from a mistake in their own zone. In baseball, the suspense
builds with every new runner on base. In soccer, what suspense is there? None, because scoring chances are infinitesimal. Every pitch in baseball
offers a chance at a run, but the probabilities of a hit happens over a quarter of the time - so one cannot safely discount this. In football, every
play offers the possibility of scoring. And while a small number of plays are scoring plays, they contribute to scoring drives. And the probability of
this happening is probably around 40%. In hockey and basketball, every shot offers a scoring chance. In basketball, the probability is above 40%,
while in hockey it is just under 10%. And while hockey's probabilities are lower, the speed of the game lends itself to the suspense of whether a
scoring attempt will be successful. Soccer offers boredom. The probabilities of scoring in soccer on any given kick are remote, which perhaps explains
the feigned apoplexy involved with that annoying broadcaster screams "goal." What are the probabilities of a soccer participant scoring on any given
possession? They are remote enough where you can safely discount it. Why else do we see so many 0-0 ties?Germanicus - 6-16-2004 at 09:28 AM
good morning packoderm,
well, i guess there will never be an american president who was a football player (means real football, what you call soccer).
simple reason for that, as a football(soccer) player you got to have brain to join a team and to be a team player.
there is never a single player in football(soccer) who can make a goal > rules are making real football a team sport with brain use.
also, no player is allowed to hide the ball, like it is in american rugby-"football".
taking the ball (do americans know to play football with a ball instead of an egg??) in the hands and then simply running away from the other guys and
placing the ball behind enemies lines is , well , what is it?
hide and seak, yea that's what it is.
that american "football" is like chess???
i totally disagree in that.
chess also is with strong brain use.
like war > yea, you got that right.
it is like war! yea i agree!
that's what it is.
making war is one of the best known things the americans accomplish.
(now it's getting political and i, for my part wants to stop at this point. acknowledging
that we are using a BAJA forum.)
but please explain that with(quote) in rugby-football to me please, will you?
maybe we should use our e-mails for to continue this 'game'? for not to stress this forum.
but if i'm understanding your comment correctly: american "football" is the sport for highschool- and college students only.
whenever an american is out of that age, he is a whimp, correct?
at least that's what you are stating.
BOB: to understand football - what the world calls football - means not the "football" the americans play by using their hands - is a game where you
don't wait on 100 goals per game.
that makes it so exciting.
not quantity,,,, quality is the sense of the game !
and about the suspense in football(soccer for your understanding)????
hey you are contradicting yourself.
the suspense in soccer is simply the question: who can make a goal , maybe two.
again, the suspense lies in the quality, not in the quantity.
let's face it folks: the world is playing football in the meaning of the word.
FOOTBALL!
the americans play "football" with the hands because they don't know the difference between feet and hands.
then they are hiding the ball under the ellbow and carrying behind enemy lines.
lets sum it up.
football like the world is playing it, is simply the fine art of playing with a ball. while american "football" is some kinda war-game for youngsters
- as packoderm stated correctly.
folks have fun with your next ballgame.
and let the eggs at home with mama.
Sincerely
Germanicus
Germanicus
jrbaja - 6-16-2004 at 11:08 AM
As much as I have to agree with your sentiments, yer just asking for trouble on this board. Patriotic Nomadians!
Personally, I enjoy stirring the commode. Sounds like you may too! hahahahaha
But, remember where this post started. And fans of Futbol or Football are way to intelligent to fight.Germanicus - 6-16-2004 at 02:20 PM
jrbaja,,,, you are damn right!
And , yes, I knew it the moment I posted.
Anyway, that's why I suggested if somebody wants to continue, we should use our e-mails for something like that.
This Baja forum is simply not the place for contradicting opinions about "football" or football or fotbol, or>>?>> played with hands or feet > it
doesn't matter > it doesn't belong here.
I agree.
theme, rest in peace!
Y'all have fun!
Germanicus JESSE - 6-16-2004 at 03:04 PM
Germanicus,
Americans simply don't get soccer, and you know what? thats absolutely great, let them have their own sports, and let us the world, enjoy ours.
How many nations play for the top tittle at the world cup?
How many nations play for a championship at the Superbowl? or "World" series?
That pretty much anwsers everything, let them have their games.
Those aren't the only things
jrbaja - 6-16-2004 at 03:10 PM
the u.s. is, shall we say "unique" in. But we won't go there here. Just watch their news and tv shows. hahahahahahaGermanicus - 6-17-2004 at 08:55 PM
well, if I'm watching U.S. News, (which is basicly timewasting) I never know whats true and whats false.
Mostly I'm deviding all I hear by 2.
Then I'm cutting the best news away and the rest is what I concider to believe.
But I got a question: How can anybody support a President who is constantly faking every thing and lieing to his fellow Americans
Everything means everything like:
Saddam has WMD>we gotto to go to war.
Bin Laden is the mastermind behind 9/11.
Saddam has AlQaida connections?
And what about the Brits??
Well, we do have an English Lady here in this Forum and I highly appreciate her well based comments. So, please, she is excluded as a Brit in here)
So, I guess the constant "yessayers" should declare their English Island as the 51st state of the U.S.
That makes high sense to me.
First we are getting the tax money and Europe is getting rid of that problem to convince them to join the EU.
But there is one downsize.
The Brits are thinking mostly with the wrong side of their brain.
See thats why they are using the wrong side of the street.
So, what can we do with them if they join in as the 51 state?
Any suggestions?
Have fun with the Brits!
Germanicus Packoderm - 6-18-2004 at 12:07 AM
When I am at a resort in Baja and there is an American football game playing on the tv above the bar, I think of these things:
American football is very much indeed similar in strategy to chess. The head coach aligns various players as offensive while allocating others to
protect the quarterback much as a chess player would do with his chess pieces. Make no mistake, American football involves studied strategy of the
highest order, and even common players often stay awake at night contemplating these strategies.
As for U.S. presidents, Jerry Ford was such an outstanding center for the Michigan Wolverines football team, both the Detroit Lions and the Green Bay
Packers offered the collegiate M.V.P. professional contracts. He chose to study law, instead.
I would say, actually, that soccer is more like basketball except you cannot touch the ball with your hands, and it is played outdoors.
As for wimps, I would say yes, once a good player gets on in years, his muscles atrophy and arthritis will tend to set in rendering him less capable
to engage in the rough-and-tumble yet disciplined sport, but I was really talking about pencil-necked geeks and wimps in general that must cede the
action of organized American football to the more athletically endowed and powerfully built individuals able to follow instructions with precision,
meld with his co-players as a team, and display heroic valor as the situation calls for to be suitable to play America's unique sport.
As for rugby, granted it is tough, but it is a bit like playing hot-potato, or as some (one person comes to mind) might spell it, hot-potatoe.
world superstars
daveB - 6-18-2004 at 04:03 PM
was a network TV contest that ran 1977 to 1982 or so, bringing notable atheletes together to compete for cash prizes in a variety of events. Football
players were among the contestants, but all failed to register as winners. Two pole vaulters, a Formula One race car driver and a soccer player took
top prizes. The soccer player, a Canadian named Brian Budd, won it three times in a row. My only point here is to say soccer players aren't always
dimwitted (at the European Cup level they never are) and are often the best atheletes.Packoderm - 6-18-2004 at 08:21 PM
I remember those. They seemed to go at length to make sure the events didn't favor the bodybuilders, wrestlers, and football players. I remember how
they loved puting a ballet dancer or a long-distance runner along side a buffed-out bodybuilder and see who could do something silly the most times in
a set amount of time. Maybe they should have included the carrying of the refrigerator on their backs race and blowing up hot water bottles like they
had on the strong-man contests that occured during the same time.
Give us some time
JZ - 6-19-2004 at 12:50 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by JESSE
Germanicus,
Americans simply don't get soccer, and you know what? thats absolutely great, let them have their own sports, and let us the world, enjoy ours.
And we'll kick your butt in that also, and the world will have another reason to hate us... sin nombre - 6-19-2004 at 01:51 PM
I heard once on a sports talk radio show on how it would be if soccer was the number one sport in the U.S. Can you imagine the elite of the athletes
currently playing American Footbal, Baseball and Basketball were all playing Soccer/Futbol instead? We'd be rockin' the house.
Just have patience
JZ - 6-19-2004 at 02:03 PM
You don't have to be 300 pounds or 6'6" to play soccer. So we'll have plenty of talent to left over to pick from once we put our minds to it. sin nombre - 6-19-2004 at 02:37 PM
Yes, you are right, JZ. But I was thinking how an athlete along the lines of let's say a Dante Hall would fare if he was a professional soccer/futbol
player instead of an NFL punt returner. Strength, quickness and MOVES. And a goalie 6'6" or better with the quick also would not hurt. Big ol'
wingspan.
And if they get hurt, there is always that WWII canvas stretcher available to haul them to the sidelines! And if they make a goal, they can pull
their shirt up over their mug, and break out into an airplane run....
[Edited on 6-19-2004 by sin nombre]JESSE - 6-19-2004 at 04:25 PM
The Czech republic - Dutch game is over, and it was definately the best game yet, the Dutch lost a 2-0 lead and the goals where amazing!!!
