BajaNomad

Now You'll Wait to Get to Mexico, Too

Woooosh - 3-31-2009 at 04:57 PM

I can hear the TJ Tourism office screaming from here already, but they did ask for help to stem the flow of guns and money back south int Mexico.

http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/Now-Youll-Wait-to-Get-...

DENNIS - 3-31-2009 at 05:03 PM

Oh good. More geniuses at work. This is like looking for illegals in the trunk of your car. Can't they just imagine that guns might be shipped between ports of entry? Why don't they go out there and be effective? How often do they have to make a joke of this?

dianaji - 3-31-2009 at 05:07 PM

damn! if i ever get in there, i'm staying!:(

Woooosh - 3-31-2009 at 05:43 PM

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Originally posted by DENNIS
Oh good. More geniuses at work. This is like looking for illegals in the trunk of your car. Can't they just imagine that guns might be shipped between ports of entry? Why don't they go out there and be effective? How often do they have to make a joke of this?


I think US style southbound point-of-entry inspections and checkpoints would be effective. The hit-or-miss red light Mexican system isn't credible. I think you'd be surprised how many cars crossing south have bundles of cash in them, let alone personal firearms.

They already take your license plate photo southbound and match it against when that plate crosses back. Last time- they addressed us by name at the border before looking at our passports.

Bajaboy - 3-31-2009 at 05:58 PM

So explain to me why the US has to check cars going into Mexico....shouldn't that be their job?! The last time I checked, the Mexican gov't was helping/assisting Mexican nationals with maps of safe passage routes into the US. Seems like they (Mexico) gets to have their cake and eat it, too.

DENNIS - 3-31-2009 at 09:19 PM

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Originally posted by Woooosh
They already take your license plate photo southbound and match it against when that plate crosses back.


I don't think they do that at Tecate. If they do, it's a recent addition.

More "Show we're doing something" BS

MrBillM - 4-1-2009 at 09:32 AM

While I haven't read the article referenced, the other coverage I've seen on this idiocy points out that the Big-Time smugglers post a lookout at the border with a Cellphone. When the U.S. goes into inspection mode, they call the smuggler and let him/her know in advance NOT to cross.

The only pros they'll catch will be those who get caught in line when the inspection begins.

Since the Cartels are already buying weapons offshore that can't be supplied more easily in the U.S., they'll simply expand their buying if the U.S. arms become difficult to import.

It will be a pain-in-the-Ass for the rest of us, though. The few Southbound routines I've seen in previous years really slowed the crossing at Mexicali East.

Bajahowodd - 4-1-2009 at 10:15 AM

Where were these guys when the kid with the meat delivery truck went through?

Face it. We promised Mexico we'd help. Maybe it's not the most efficient deployment of resources, but I would guess that it would make certain malos alter their plans.

dianaji - 4-1-2009 at 10:29 AM

it will be interesting to see if there is a line when going through this week.*sigh*

woody with a view - 4-1-2009 at 11:55 AM

it's our fault when the guns get sold and shipped south? now it is going to be our fault that we don't stop all the shipments? why can't mexico do it's own border enforcement? no, wait! they do, on the southern border - just like we do!

DENNIS - 4-1-2009 at 12:14 PM

Between the new passport regulation, bad press about cartels, hijackers and this harrasment, Baja will turn into a ghost town.

BajaGringo - 4-1-2009 at 12:20 PM

Maybe this is how we get the "Old Baja" back???

rpleger - 4-1-2009 at 02:57 PM

Looking forward to ghost town...to damn many people down here anyway...Bah humbug.

American Arms

MrBillM - 4-2-2009 at 05:17 PM

As I mentioned elsewhere, it turns out that the NINETY PERCENT figure regarding U.S. arms turns out to be Politico BS.

Eighty-percent of arms seized in Mexico CANNOT be traced at all.

The Ninety-percent applies to the remaining Twenty-percent.

[Edited on 4-3-2009 by MrBillM]

Woooosh - 4-2-2009 at 05:52 PM

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Originally posted by Bajaboy
So explain to me why the US has to check cars going into Mexico....shouldn't that be their job?! The last time I checked, the Mexican gov't was helping/assisting Mexican nationals with maps of safe passage routes into the US. Seems like they (Mexico) gets to have their cake and eat it, too.


If we find the undeclared bundles of cash on our side of the border... it's OUR cake to eat. Seems like the monitoring equipment is aready there for checking northbound border traffic- so why not make some cash? If Arnold is smart- he will set up a state checkpoint before the federal one and do some cherry picking.

Woooosh - 4-2-2009 at 05:55 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by MrBillM
As I mentioned elsewhere, it turns out that the NINETY PERCENT figure regarding U.S. arms turns out to be Politico BS.

Eighty-percent of arms seized in Mexico CANNOT be traced at all.

The Ninety-percent applies to the remaining Twenty-percent.

[Edited on 4-3-2009 by MrBillM]

The Chinese and Indians don't mark all their weapons- look alike knock-offs.

k-rico - 4-2-2009 at 06:40 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by MrBillM
As I mentioned elsewhere, it turns out that the NINETY PERCENT figure regarding U.S. arms turns out to be Politico BS.

Eighty-percent of arms seized in Mexico CANNOT be traced at all.

The Ninety-percent applies to the remaining Twenty-percent.

[Edited on 4-3-2009 by MrBillM]


That info really changes the story! Do you have any references?

wilderone - 4-3-2009 at 09:12 AM

San Diego has the highest stolen car rate in the US - maybe will find some trying to cross the border. Will be interesting to see if they find anything. Can't fault them for trying to do something about stemming the flow of contraband - and using US personnel since it's obvious the Mexican patrol is not checking. Seems like this should have started years ago - along with increased entry lanes, doubled up. If it's so easy to get something across in a car, don't you think this is what they've been doing?

David K - 4-3-2009 at 09:26 AM

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Originally posted by BajaGringo
Maybe this is how we get the "Old Baja" back???


Seems just when Baja is lost to the modern-era, something political or financial returns things back to 'normal'!

How Dey Do Dat ?

MrBillM - 4-3-2009 at 11:12 AM

While all of the conjecture regarding arms smuggling is entertaining, the FACT is that they don't really know how it's being done.

I "suppose", should they catch a few, we'll get some insight into the schemes being employed.

Having been searched so many times under so many different conditions and had the authorities find things I thought were well-concealed, I am skeptical that smugglers might simply load up the trunks of their cars and drive arms across.

Granted, those have been the Mexican authorities I've dealt with, so "maybe" the U.S. Authorities will have a better plan, but I doubt it.

Woooosh - 4-3-2009 at 01:49 PM

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Originally posted by David K
Quote:
Originally posted by BajaGringo
Maybe this is how we get the "Old Baja" back???


Seems just when Baja is lost to the modern-era, something political or financial returns things back to 'normal'!


Yup, someone just hits the "SOS"* button again and back around we go. * Stuck On Stupid