BajaNomad - State department says don't travel to Mexico

State department says don't travel to Mexico

sanfelipebob - 4-27-2009 at 06:50 AM

The state department has just ordered people not to travel to Mexico unless it is essential. This is going to hurt the travel industry. What are your thoughts?

4baja - 4-27-2009 at 06:56 AM

think ill go to mexico then.

Don Alley - 4-27-2009 at 06:59 AM

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Originally posted by sanfelipebob
The state department has just ordered people not to travel to Mexico unless it is essential. This is going to hurt the travel industry. What are your thoughts?

Edit: they may update the alert below due to the flu...

There is a new travel alert (as opposed to the more serious travel warning)

Travel Alert

It says be careful, not "don't go."

[Edited on 4-27-2009 by Don Alley]

Frank - 4-27-2009 at 07:06 AM

Unless this Swine Flu really takes off, we are still going.

I didnt see anything saying "dont go". The alert is dated 2/09 and is current as of today.

losfrailes - 4-27-2009 at 07:49 AM

Here is what the CDC is saying. Note the suggestion near the bottom of the notice.

http://wwwn.cdc.gov/travel/contentSwineFluMexico.aspx

nobaddays - 4-27-2009 at 07:54 AM

This is serious stuff. Lets not joke about it. People are dying! It is spreading fast.

Ford - 4-27-2009 at 07:59 AM

These fear tactics are silly. It is a serious flu, but is Tamiflu is very effective against it. So far there has been 60 confirmed deaths from swine flu in Mexico! I read somewhere that over 50,000 people were killed in auto accidents in Mexico last year! That is a travel advisory, not the flu!

bajalou - 4-27-2009 at 08:00 AM

From the CDC site losfrailes linked

"CDC Recommendations

CDC has NOT recommended that people avoid travel to Mexico at this time. If you are planning travel to Mexico, follow these recommendations to reduce your risk of infection and help you stay healthy."

State Department and travel to Mexico

bonanza bucko - 4-27-2009 at 08:25 AM

I'm very sorry to say it but I don't trust ANYTHING coming out of WASHDC these days. If the State Department says we should avoid Mexico I'm sure they have at least five agendae working and most of them have nothing to do with health.

Anytime you are in Mexico...and especially on the mainland or in a city...you need to be careful about what you eat and drink. In Baja things are a little easier because there are fewer people and less contamination.

bajajudy - 4-27-2009 at 09:23 AM

There are also recommendations not to travel to the USA
A friend just cancelled a trip home deciding that airplanes were not the place to be right now.....good idea, I guess.

DianaT - 4-27-2009 at 09:32 AM

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Originally posted by bajajudy
There are also recommendations not to travel to the USA
A friend just cancelled a trip home deciding that airplanes were not the place to be right now.....good idea, I guess.

I agree about commercial airplanes going either direction right now---not a good place.

Since we live so close to the border and there are confirmed cases in San Diego, we are still headed down Baja---seriously hope no one catches this.

Fred - 4-27-2009 at 09:44 AM

Going to see my doctor this Friday and see if there is anything I can carry down with me on my next trp(soon I hope).

Bajahowodd - 4-27-2009 at 09:59 AM

The EU issued an advisory against travel to Mexico and the United States. I agree with Judy that the more compelling reason in that case is that one would have to spend hourss confined in a plane- probably not a good idea right now.

DENNIS - 4-27-2009 at 11:03 AM

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Originally posted by Fred
Going to see my doctor this Friday and see if there is anything I can carry down with me on my next trp(soon I hope).

Well, Fred....If he knows you, he'll probably tell you to bring your own beer. :lol:

David A. - 4-27-2009 at 11:07 AM

I'll be right behind you 4Baja. :tumble:

Woooosh - 4-27-2009 at 11:13 AM

This can't be happening in Mexico without a conspiracy theory! Where are all the rumors and inuendo that the big bad USA caused this to happento Mexico. After all, the Mexican museum head who greeted Obama died from Swine Flu the very next day! Come on Mexico- get with it!

55steve - 4-27-2009 at 11:17 AM

Leaving this Sunday for BoLA...

LOSARIPES - 4-27-2009 at 12:35 PM

Bola, Mulege, SFelipe, Sta Rosalia, even La Paz.... probably safer than many cities in the USA (L.A.; San Antonio TX; Dallas FW Tx; S.F. CA; etc) at present time... BCS is probably the safest area of them all....

Woooosh - 4-27-2009 at 12:42 PM

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Originally posted by LOSARIPES
Bola, Mulege, SFelipe, Sta Rosalia, even La Paz.... probably safer than many cities in the USA (L.A.; San Antonio TX; Dallas FW Tx; S.F. CA; etc) at present time... BCS is probably the safest area of them all....

Maybe so. Safer from swine flu but more dangerous from the local swine.

DENNIS - 4-27-2009 at 03:15 PM

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Originally posted by Woooosh
the Mexican museum head who greeted Obama died from Swine Flu the very next day!

OHMYGOSH....I hope he washed his hands. I didn't hear about this one.

DanO - 4-27-2009 at 04:10 PM

The official line is that the guy died from complications of a pre-existing condition, not the swine flu. Of course, if we're talking about conspiracy theories . . . .

http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalintelligence/20...

capn.sharky - 4-27-2009 at 04:41 PM

I just got back last night from Loreto---no problems there. Go

EnseNADAslim - 4-27-2009 at 05:13 PM

For now on just about anything that happens internationally like this will be spun with many "Alerts", "Warnings", "Scare".... and then Obama du Mama will come on say his thing, and then give his commercial on why we need bigger government and more of YOUR money to fight such things as this terrible Flu from MEXICO CITY!! On Avg. more that 20,000 people die in the US alone from the flu----hurry people, find your bubble wrap!

Bajahowodd - 4-27-2009 at 05:16 PM

Actually, the number is more than 36,000. But give the politics a rest.

LOSARIPES - 4-27-2009 at 05:35 PM

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Originally posted by Woooosh

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Maybe so. Safer from swine flu but more dangerous from the local swine.

Yeah. mind you, some of it is imported.............

toneart - 4-27-2009 at 05:55 PM

Hmmmm. A political troll in Ensenada? I thought this thread was about the Swine flu breakout. Why the Obama reference? It is really difficult to not take the bait. They start it. Come on. Cut the crap. Don't let them do this. :?:

Awatson - 4-27-2009 at 06:17 PM

the cartels...the flu...the economy...better just stay home :lol:

Mango - 4-27-2009 at 07:35 PM

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Originally posted by bonanza bucko
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Anytime you are in Mexico...and especially on the mainland or in a city...you need to be careful about what you eat and drink. In Baja things are a little easier because there are fewer people and less contamination.

Actually, from my experience getting fresh vs. spoiled food has less to do with big city vs. little city or location in Mexico. It has more to do with how popular the restaurant is and how often the dish you ordered is sold at that restaurant. (A good hint is eat 2-3pm when the locals do.. and look/eat only at busy places)

Larger city restaurants are more likely to have such things as refrigeration and workers trained in basic food saftey.

Little or towns on the coast have fresh seafood; and, it is best fresh... but even in the days of the Aztecs fresh fish was run on the backs of runners from the coast all the way to Mexico city packed in glacial ice so Montezuma could have fresh fish.

I've been to many small restaurants in Mexico where someone will actually run to the mercado and purchase the ingredients for the meal I just ordered. It's really a crapshoot.. but, if you eat at the place the locals like(and keep coming back too).. you really can't go too wrong wherever you are. Some of the worst food I have ever had is in "tourist" resturants which are devoid of locals.. because they know better. Go a block or two from the beach/main plaza and eat where the businesspeople/locals eat.

Bajahowodd - 4-27-2009 at 11:21 PM

The masks don't do a thing. How silly. You need to keep washing your hands and consciously control the urge to touch your nose or your eyes. Obviously, wearing a mask won't help if you scatch your eye with a dirty finger.

Pescador - 4-28-2009 at 10:40 AM

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Originally posted by Bajahowodd
The masks don't do a thing. How silly. You need to keep washing your hands and consciously control the urge to touch your nose or your eyes. Obviously, wearing a mask won't help if you scatch your eye with a dirty finger.

Great health lesson. Actually the masks do help because with the swine flu, according to the CDC and WHO, they slow down or stop the germ spreading due to coughing and sneezing. So they do have some effect.

toneart - 4-28-2009 at 11:08 AM

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Originally posted by Pescador

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So we are talking about two different ways to get contaminated; hand to nose, eye or mouth; airborne by coughing and sneezing. We are learning the specifics of this particular virus, which may be different from others.

They are probably making it up as they go along, but better to err on the side of caution...but without succumbing to all the media frenzy. :yes:

Pompano - 4-28-2009 at 11:14 AM

News frenzy happening now, Tony.

Fox News & then CNN:

LA Coroner's office just reported that the previously reported 2 swine flu deaths in Los Angeles county are NOT related to swine flu.

White House briefing now underway from press sect. Robert Gibbs on swine flu outbreak precautionary measures.

We are headed north very soon and will take all possible precautions.

[Edited on 4-28-2009 by Pompano]

SiReNiTa - 4-28-2009 at 12:02 PM

hi everyone...
i heard yesterday from a nurse here in ensenada that the virus is here in B.C. there are 2 cases in ensenada now...i suggest that if you are coming head south because this virus does spread fast...i'm spooked because everything is closing down...all the schools from daycare to university have shut down until may 6th all events were cancelled so i think we have to take this very seriously indeed...be careful everyone!!

Cypress - 4-28-2009 at 02:44 PM

This whole deal is getting to look more and more like a media driven piece of histeria.

For what purpose? :?:

DanO - 4-28-2009 at 03:38 PM

Veratect reports that Rosarito Beach just cancelled its Cinco de Mayo festival.

Pescador - 4-28-2009 at 03:47 PM

We cancelled my wifes plane tickets for the begining of May and while on the phone with the airlines they indicated that the number of cancellations are much higher than they expected. For some it may be hysteria, for us it is much more important than that and we can not take the devil may care approach and fly due to respiritory problems that we are fighting anyway.

SKIDS - 4-28-2009 at 03:55 PM

I just bought my wife a ticket to Oxaca , with a lay over in Mexico City . :lol:

Cypress - 4-28-2009 at 04:15 PM

Pescador, Don't blame you one bit. Good luck with all and hope your lady is on the road to recovery. :bounce:

Bajahowodd - 4-28-2009 at 04:21 PM

Society has certainly changed. Mostly due to the incredible expansion of communications, coupled with the 24 hour news cycle. So many folk are basically in constant contact with sources, what with Twitter, and the general phone culture. Don't want to sound cynical here, but there's little reason for pols to not attempt to take advantage of such events. They all want to look like heroes and get re-elected. Who knows where this swine flu thing is going? Right now, seems like half the "experts" are saying it could be catastrophic, while the other half are saying it has already peaked. Y'all should keep in mind that wherever it heads, when you hear or read reports, they are lagging well behind the curve. Face it, probably many folks got the flu before there were enough of them that actually sought medical help. And how many sick people did it take for a healthcare professional to decide that there may be something going on? Then, the need to test culture. I was actually surprised and saddened by learning that Mexico did not have the equipment at their disposal to "type" the strain. They had to ship sample to Canada.
All in all, what I'm getting at here is that for better or hopefully not worse, this thing has already progressed way beyond what we are hearing in the media. Maybe, it's petering out.

shari - 4-28-2009 at 04:53 PM

Gosh, the traditional Mother's Day fiesta has been cancelled...dang...THAT is serious...it was the best party of the year by far. So I guess we will have it here at the Blowhole...raffle and all.

grace59 - 4-28-2009 at 05:04 PM

On the radio this morning there was a man who works in the medical field. He said that there is a lot of hype about the Swine flu. While you don't want to take it lightly you should not panic. Do those things that you usually do to stay healthy...wash your hands frequently, cover coughs and sneezes etc. By the way he mentioned that about 36,000 people die each year in the U.S. from the flu. Also, the Swine Flu is much less contagious than when the Avian Flu was going around. Everyone just take care and wash those hands!

mulegemichael - 4-28-2009 at 05:37 PM

isn't it incredible how the media controls how we react,live,interface, work, socialize, etc?...this is such an incredible media hype!....think about it folks; over 36,000 people die in the U.S. alone every year from the frigging flu....how many have died so far here?...none!....don't panic too early; it's not all bad...now...take me south..

shari - 4-28-2009 at 05:46 PM

I am astounded at the response to this...the entire country is in a panic...I guess the gratifying thing is that if it really were a serious pandemic...well...its being dealt with in a quick and efficient manner...maybe a good dry run for some future weird disease or emergency. But man...there sure are alot of economic repricussions of this. Poor restaurant people are hit hard, businesses as everyone is staying home...sheesh.

redmesa - 4-28-2009 at 06:49 PM

How about the Mothers' Day Bash being held in the fall so I can be there? It has got to be the most amazing, fun party I've ever been to. Hopefully, everyone is saving their money and trips for the future so that after this hiatis everything will be really good for businessesthere.

grace59 - 4-28-2009 at 07:08 PM

I decided that I should check my facts on the flu instead of just trusting what I heard on the radio. I got the following from the CDC website.

How many people get sick or die from the flu every year?

Each flu season is unique, but it is estimated that, on average, approximately 5% to 20% of U.S. residents get the flu, and more than 200,000 persons are hospitalized for flu-related complications each year. About 36,000 Americans die on average per year from the complications of flu.

Perhaps if you are currently living in Mexico you should stay there...there are plenty of flu cases here in the US.

fishbuck - 4-28-2009 at 07:26 PM

I was just reading about the 36000 deaths. It's 90% old people with underlying heath issues. The flu just pushes them over the edge.
The reason that they are so concerned about this flu is that the people who have died are healthy prime of life aged people.
People with a healthy immume system are most vulnerable because the immune system will overeact and kill them.
So I wouldn't worry about the 36000 weak old people. I'd be more concerned about why it's killing healthy young people.

Note: I'm not saying anything bad about old people. Just that the swine flu is dangerous to young healthy people.

[Edited on 4-29-2009 by fishbuck]

elgatoloco - 4-28-2009 at 08:09 PM

The media should have called it the turtle flu. Maybe could have saved a few turtles.

Packoderm - 4-28-2009 at 08:43 PM

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Originally posted by fishbuck
I was just reading about the 36000 deaths. It's 90% old people with underlying heath issues. The flu just pushes them over the edge.
The reason that they are so concerned about this flu is that the people who have died are healthy prime of life aged people.
People with a healthy immume system are most vulnerable because the immune system will overeact and kill them.
So I wouldn't worry about the 36000 weak old people. I'd be more concerned about why it's killing healthy young people.

Note: I'm not saying anything bad about old people. Just that the swine flu is dangerous to young healthy people.

[Edited on 4-29-2009 by fishbuck]

The deaths of healthy flu patients you describe was reportedly the same scenario as the 1918-1919 Spanish flu - but on a mammoth scale. Google "1918-1919 Spanish influenza," and you'll get some grim death counts. I don't think the swine flu is as powerful though, but it could conceivably mutate into something worse.

fishbuck - 4-28-2009 at 08:48 PM

Ya, I read about that too. Could mutate and fizzle out or could mutate and kill us all.
I think that is why there is such a big official reaction.

Paulclark - 4-28-2009 at 08:59 PM

Here is a link showing the location of infected people -- deaths, infected, and suspected infections -- it traveling the world quickly.

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps/mshl=en&ie=UTF8&msa=0&...

Marla Daily - 4-28-2009 at 09:06 PM

BBC JUST REPORTED:

Mexico City has banned restaurants and cafes from serving all food except takeaways in a bid to help prevent the spread of the deadly swine flu virus.

Empty streets of La Paz

wavedad - 4-28-2009 at 09:17 PM

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Originally posted by sanfelipebob
The state department has just ordered people not to travel to Mexico unless it is essential. This is going to hurt the travel industry. What are your thoughts?

We live in La Paz. I am in SFO on a business trip this week and back on Saturday. My wife told me that the streets, Malecon and most restaurants are empty. Farmacias are sold out of masks and most folks out shopping are wearing them. Heck even the restaurant workers are wearing them (nice way to attract biz!) Anyway as I am flying Volaris back from TJ I will have to look like a goofball and wear a mask, take airport and a 3 oz bottle of hand sanitizer (what a sissy)

Bajahowodd - 4-28-2009 at 11:26 PM

And just what would any of you have done before there was an internet, blogs and forums? The instant and constant communication thing is not always a good thing. Leads to misinformation, and overwrought people. Face it. Even the links posted here are generally to places that didn't exist 15 years ago. Just maybe we are too well connected. Not saying that there's not a need to know what is going on. But with 24 hour cable really there to sell products, they scheme to to develop stories to fill air time. Recycled stuff. Partial truths. Hey. If you've got the flu, I feel for you. However, given today's nutrition, sanitary standards, and medical acumen, I don't see a repeat of the black plague. Just my opinion.

redhilltown - 4-28-2009 at 11:44 PM

I am guessing that as summer approaches, "Yellowtail Fever" will trump "Swine Flu" every time. And using "Trump" and "Swine" in the same sentence may not be that much of a stretch...

Besides, how can you properly scream at a large Yellowtail that cut you off on the rocks with a mask on???

(sorry, I know it is serious...just sounds a bit over hyped....THIS time)

shari - 4-29-2009 at 08:13 AM

I"ve been thinking...imagine if mexico didnt take drastic measures (that most of you think is ridiculous) and this flu spread faster and more widespread. I'm sure there would have been lots of snide comments about how irresponsible the mexican government is.
I'm feeling good that this thing has been nipped in the bud, we hope, and proud that people took it seriously...which probably saved many lives.
We northerners take a real "devil may care" attitude...as I mentioned before....this might be a good dry run for a more serious threat in the future. Quick effective response is what is needed in this scenario.

durrelllrobert - 4-29-2009 at 09:40 AM

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Originally posted by DanO
Of course, if we're talking about conspiracy theories . . . .

Actually the whole thing was started by a coalition of bank robbers who didn't want to be conspicous wearing masks :lol:

toneart - 4-29-2009 at 10:08 AM

As summer approaches, this current bout is expected to fizzle. I doubt whether much more can be done to prevent it, as it has already broken out.

The real potential danger is what form it may return in. The fall could see it mutate into something worse.

Maybe this is a good wake up call so that the WHO can be more prepared. Wow! The media can really whip up a panic, can't it? I don't think any of us have anything to worry about for the time being. Stay tuned.

Pass the mayo

Dave - 4-29-2009 at 10:58 AM

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Originally posted by DanO
Veratect reports that Rosarito Beach just cancelled its Cinco de Mayo festival.

Its first ever Cinco de Mayo festival. Scheduled for the 1st through the 3rd.

When I pointed out that Cinco de Mayo is the 5th of May I was told that everyone goes home on Sunday. My next question was, "How would you know?" :rolleyes:

Woooosh - 4-29-2009 at 11:22 AM

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Originally posted by DanO
Veratect reports that Rosarito Beach just cancelled its Cinco de Mayo festival.

May 1st-3rd was close enough to the 5th for Rosartio Beach. Last year they held "carnival" the week after the rest of the world. I suppose decorataions, carnival rides and music talent are less that way.

It's not like anyone was going to show up anyhow, this place is a virtual ghost town. Even the locals are now saying "these are the hard times".

[Edited on 4-29-2009 by Woooosh]

Cypress - 4-29-2009 at 12:36 PM

I'm thinking the operative word is "Boo". Are you scared? :?:

ramuma53 - 4-29-2009 at 08:32 PM

Today I heard a good question and answers over Mexico city TV, why there are deaths only in Mexico city?
The answer may clear someone toughts: because Mexico has a very bad public health system, there have not been any deaths on private clinics who had flu patients, everybody walked and are now inmune.
The kid who died in Texas came from Mexico in a very bad shape already.
So at this point, the ones that are safer, are the ones that already had it and came back from it.
Mexico deaths are among very poor people who have no way of getting private attention and also you are right, Mexico has 30'000,000 people; to have 3 deaths, statistically mean nothing, they may have died from something aquired in the hospital.
If you go to Mexico, just be carefull and wash your hands, the masks are not good, but to prevent you from taking your hands to your mouth, you may even enjoy Mexico without so many people. Also just be near a private hospital and that is it, you may even come back inmune.
Why are evrybody so scared, because there would be no way for the public health system to take care of too many sick people at the same time, they also have very few free antiviral, but if you can pay for it, you can get it everyplace.

Bajahowodd - 4-29-2009 at 11:35 PM

The opinion of a highly respected epidemiologist, who has been active in the field for more than half a decade is two-fold. The reason this flu seems to be targeting the young is that while it is a variant, there have been other swine flu outbreaks in the past several decades. Older folk have a certain amount of resistance to the general swine flu virus because they were exposed to it. Unfortunately, generation after generation, that resistance has faded and disappeared.

Second. The first known case was adjacent to an industrial pig farm. Because of the conditions of pigs being raised in utterly awful conditions, cheek to snout, pigs succumb to the virus quickly, without building antibodies. Thus, close to such a facility, the virus, without having been attacked by antibodies is more virulent.

Just don't go blaming the Mexican public health system off the top. Not defending it, but this is a complicated situation.

Mexican Swine

MrBillM - 4-30-2009 at 09:34 AM

It's interesting that there has been an outbreak in the area NEAR a Huge Pig farm, but nothing special among the people AT the farm. ??

BTW, it was pointed out that the so-called "Patient Zero" is only that because his was the only one of the bunch that they had saved a Blood Sample from to be tested.

I see this a.m. that Mexico is going to SHUT-DOWN (?) from 01 May to 05 May in an attempt to slow the spread.

Also that the Border Patrol Guys and Gals have been ordered to NOT wear their masks UNLESS they encounter someone obviously ill BECAUSE they don't want to SCARE people. Must be PC.

Counting Masks between the Mexicali Border into San Felipe, we saw a total of six. No Worries here.

The Gull - 4-30-2009 at 10:27 AM

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Originally posted by ramuma53
Today I heard a good question and answers over Mexico city TV, why there are deaths only in Mexico city?
The answer may clear someone toughts: because Mexico has a very bad public health system, there have not been any deaths on private clinics who had flu patients, everybody walked and are now inmune.
The kid who died in Texas came from Mexico in a very bad shape already.
So at this point, the ones that are safer, are the ones that already had it and came back from it.
Mexico deaths are among very poor people who have no way of getting private attention and also you are right, Mexico has 30'000,000 people; to have 3 deaths, statistically mean nothing, they may have died from something aquired in the hospital.
If you go to Mexico, just be carefull and wash your hands, the masks are not good, but to prevent you from taking your hands to your mouth, you may even enjoy Mexico without so many people. Also just be near a private hospital and that is it, you may even come back inmune.
Why are evrybody so scared, because there would be no way for the public health system to take care of too many sick people at the same time, they also have very few free antiviral, but if you can pay for it, you can get it everyplace.

Mexico has a wonderful medical system, it is the best the US taxpayers can provide along the border states.

Chicken Little was right, the sky is falling and a piece of it just hit me, too.

oldlady - 4-30-2009 at 10:50 AM

Do you suppose CaboRon and the phantom U-Haul got out in time?

Bajahowodd - 4-30-2009 at 11:00 AM

Nope. He was spotted driving it, with two elderly passengers, near Camalu.

flyfishinPam - 4-30-2009 at 12:03 PM

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Originally posted by The Gull

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Mexico has a wonderful medical system, it is the best the US taxpayers can provide along the border states.

Chicken Little was right, the sky is falling and a piece of it just hit me, too.

Not only that but last night our president explained that anyone is welcome to visit ANY hospital, public or private if they are feelings symptoms. I'd like to see Obama do that if this were happening in the USA.

flyfishinPam - 4-30-2009 at 12:06 PM

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Originally posted by MrBillM

I see this a.m. that Mexico is going to SHUT-DOWN (?) from 01 May to 05 May in an attempt to slow the spread.

yes it is true, passports only by advance appointment. Its on the SRE website I was supposed to solicit my passport today but gotta wait until ??

remember EVERYTHING beaurocratic or connected to the government goes through DF so closing down DF is the same as closing down all of MEXICO. We are now paying the price for the fact that we have never de-centralized government or beaurocracy at all. This is an example don't let it happen to your country. :fire:

Listen to Joe

MrBillM - 4-30-2009 at 01:35 PM

AND Stay Home.

The White House, once again, is trying to "Essplain" away the Blowhard's Pontificiations.

"Stay off Public Transportation, out of the Subways, Off the Planes".

You have to love that guy.

The rumor is that Obi called the VP and said "Joe, Shut the F Up" .

Probably not the first time.

One of the Gals (from his side) said "Well, what can I say. You just never know what Joe's likely to say".

The Gull - 5-1-2009 at 08:16 AM

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Originally posted by Bajahowodd
Nope. He was spotted driving it, with two elderly passengers, near Camalu.

Were they all fully clothed?

CaboRon - 5-2-2009 at 06:43 AM

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Originally posted by oldlady
Do you suppose CaboRon and the phantom U-Haul got out in time?

We flew to the states yesterday ..... :wow:

Back to civilization, :tumble:

America is a great place to be ..... :bounce:

No more breathing dust :lol:

CaboRon

bajabillybob - 5-2-2009 at 07:09 AM

Ron,

Good luck in Nevada and please continue your posts here . I would say your timing was excellent given the goings on in the last two weeks. Please do not let the grumpy ones here scare you off. They can not handle the truth. :lol:

The Gull - 5-2-2009 at 07:30 AM

Yeah, Vegas and Nevada have no dust.

Proof that a lifetime of being delusional doesn't change just because of relocating from Baja to another place.

It's a small world afterall, Mickey.

bajabillybob - 5-2-2009 at 07:38 AM

I cannot speak for Ron but I understand his feelings of watching Mexico slip into failed state status in just the last 2 years. I am sure you are very happy with the crap happening in your little corner of paradise.
Gull, why don't you tell us all how things are going there and how much better it is now compared to 2006.
At least when there are beheadings there now we can have a sense of relief that maybe some of the victims might have had the swine flu. :lol:

BajaGringo - 5-2-2009 at 08:23 AM

Boy, isn't this a happy bunch? Good morning to you all too...

:spingrin:

Doing MY Part !

MrBillM - 5-2-2009 at 09:06 AM

In the best interest of promoting Hysteria whenever possible, I ran off a New Bumper Sticker for my Truck pointing out that the H1N1 Virus is the SAME one that caused the 1918 Pandemic.

Which is True. No point in getting into details that will just muddy the potential for Panic.

Just trying to do my best in support of Anarchy.

The Gull - 5-2-2009 at 09:50 AM

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Originally posted by bajabillybob
I cannot speak for Ron but I understand his feelings of watching Mexico slip into failed state status in just the last 2 years. I am sure you are very happy with the crap happening in your little corner of paradise.
Gull, why don't you tell us all how things are going there and how much better it is now compared to 2006.
At least when there are beheadings there now we can have a sense of relief that maybe some of the victims might have had the swine flu. :lol:

Well, well Mr. Feelings, I would be delighted to tell you how things are. Wonderful, seeing there are virtually no gringos around and terrible for the locals because the tourist economy is trashed.

Which do you take particular delight in?

CabRon, liked to watch the misery of the locals as it made him feel, Mr. Feelings, like a big man, not the Mickey Mouse that he is.

I feel like breaking into a song, "feeeelings, oh, oh oh oh, feelings..."

DENNIS - 5-2-2009 at 09:55 AM

No No...please, Gull. Gawd...do I hate that song.

oldlady - 5-2-2009 at 09:57 AM

We typically go out to dinner on Friday night. Same place, same order.
Decided that with no visible panic in Centenario (no masks yet) we would stick to our hum drum routine. A devil may care friend joined us and I was pleased to see the place had more people than usual considering the early hour. 2 1/2 hours, never heard a cough. But, I topped my dinner off with a lovely shot of tequila just in case. I think I must have read somewhere that viruses are not fond of limes.

[Edited on 5-2-2009 by oldlady]

CaboRon - 5-3-2009 at 01:06 PM

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Gull,

You are a burro hole :lol:

BajaGringo - 5-3-2009 at 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by oldlady
We typically go out to dinner on Friday night. Same place, same order.
Decided that with no visible panic in Centenario (no masks yet) we would stick to our hum drum routine. A devil may care friend joined us and I was pleased to see the place had more people than usual considering the early hour. 2 1/2 hours, never heard a cough. But, I topped my dinner off with a lovely shot of tequila just in case. I think I must have read somewhere that viruses are not fond of limes.

[Edited on 5-2-2009 by oldlady]

Best advice I have heard yet. Make mine a double shot though please...

:lol:

From the Associated Press

Bajahowodd - 5-3-2009 at 01:47 PM

updated 1 hour, 8 minutes ago
Mexico's health secretary said the swine flu epidemic in his country "is now in its declining phase," even as the U.S. and five other countries in Europe and Latin America reported new cases Sunday.

China quarantined more than 70 Mexican travelers and Hong Kong isolated 350 people in a hotel as a precaution even though no new swine flu infections appeared in Asia. In Egypt, authorities' attempt to kill all pigs as a precaution against the disease prompted pig owners to clash with police who were helping to seize their animals for slaughter.

The death toll in Mexico remains at 19, and the number of confirmed cases has increased slightly, from 473 to 506, including the dead, Health Secretary Jose Angel Cordova said. He said "evolution of the epidemic is now in its declining phase."

He said data suggest the epidemic peaked sometime between April 23 and April 28, and that drastic measures — closing the nation's schools, shuttering most of its businesses and banning mass public gatherings — apparently have helped curb the flu's spread.

A Good Talking Point is ....................

MrBillM - 5-3-2009 at 03:54 PM

That, even during the worst Flu Epidemics, the intensity rises and falls so the WORST could still be ahead.

Having worked so many people into a frenzy, it would be unfortunate if it slipped away so easily.

Let's keep that pot stirring and the masses scared.

Bajahowodd - 5-3-2009 at 04:15 PM

Guess you never heard of karma, Bill.

Heard ? Sure ! Believe ?

MrBillM - 5-3-2009 at 04:29 PM

You've got to be kidding !.

The last person I knew personally who spouted Crap about Karma was a Hippie Chick I was shagging back in the 60s.

No Worries, mate.

It's all a Hoot.

The Gull - 5-4-2009 at 01:25 PM

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Originally posted by DENNIS
No No...please, Gull. Gawd...do I hate that song.

It's the one you sing with the piano guy at the bar. How can you say you don't like it?

GregN - 5-4-2009 at 06:53 PM

Hi all. Thought you might be interested in Gary Graham's WON column addressing the issue.

http://www.facebook.com/ext/share.php?sid=109161436208&h...