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Westjet and AirCanada cancel Mexico flights

nobaddays - 4-29-2009 at 05:16 PM

http://www.calgaryherald.com/Health/WestJet+Canada+cancel+fl...

Bajahowodd - 4-29-2009 at 11:22 PM

I could not get the page from the link. If true, it would be very serious. I have a bunch of friends who have been scheduled to fly to Cabo this weekend. They called Alaska Air and were told that not only was Alaska flying, but they would not be given a refund or a credit if they failed to take their flight. Need to update this issue since the cruise lines have ceased making call on Mexican ports.

Woooosh - 4-29-2009 at 11:28 PM

CALGARY - WestJet Airlines Ltd. and Air Canada are suspending flights to destinations in Mexico, due to increased concern regarding the spread of the human swine influenza virus there.

WestJet and WestJet Vacations will cease service to Cancun, Cabo San Lucas, Mazatlan, and Puerto Vallarta, Mexico, effective Monday, May 4, 2009.

Service will resume to Cabo San Lucas, Mazatlan and Puerto Vallarta on June 20, 2009, the Calgary-based carrier said in an advisory late Tuesday.

Seasonal service to Cancun will return in the fall schedule.

Air Canada and Air Canada Vacations is also suspending all operations to Cancun, Cozumel and Puerto Vallarta until June 1, 2009.

Flights to Mexico City will be maintained, based on travel demand, Canada’s top carrier said.

WestJet and Air Canada said affected flyers can make changes to their travel plans free of penalty.

Bajahowodd - 4-29-2009 at 11:39 PM

Thanks Woooosh. So, what about US airlines? Mexican airlines? Just gotta believe that cancellations were so high, the Canadian Carriers just didn't want to fly empty planes.

Hook - 4-30-2009 at 06:08 AM

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Originally posted by Bajahowodd
Thanks Woooosh. So, what about US airlines? Mexican airlines? Just gotta believe that cancellations were so high, the Canadian Carriers just didn't want to fly empty planes.



EXACTLY.

Why else would they continue to fly into Mexico City where the most deaths have been reported?

David K - 4-30-2009 at 08:00 AM

It was reported that an Air France flight crew refused to fly to Mexico...

Bajaboy - 4-30-2009 at 08:10 AM

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Originally posted by David K
It was reported that an Air France flight crew refused to fly to Mexico...


Let me guess...by Fox News?

David K - 4-30-2009 at 08:20 AM

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Originally posted by Bajaboy
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Originally posted by David K
It was reported that an Air France flight crew refused to fly to Mexico...


Let me guess...by Fox News?


Zac, I know your politics and you know mine... I do like to hear all sides of an issue and make my decission... Fox is the only network that gives equal time to both sides... Isn't that important in a democracy, freedom of the press?

Now, (not from Fox) here is the story off the Internet:

UPDATE:Air France Crew Refuses To Board Flight To Mexico4-29-09 4:08 PM EDT | E-mail Article | Print Article(Updates with background, details)

PARIS (AFP)--An entire Air France-KLM (AFLYY) crew and several individual flight attendants have refused to board flights to Mexico since Saturday because of the outbreak of swine flu, airport sources said Wednesday.


Under French law employees may refuse to stay on their job if they have "a reasonable motive" to believe that their health or life is seriously and imminently threatened.

A pilot who was to fly from Paris to Mexico on Saturday refused to do so for health reasons, citing the swine flu crisis.

His refusal automatically involved the aircraft's crew which was replaced, airport officials said.

Since Saturday several flight attendants have said they will not fly to Mexico citing "fatigue," the only reason accepted under French industrial law

Bajaboy - 4-30-2009 at 08:42 AM

DK-

If you want to listen to all sides then you should listen to all sides...not just Fox. I mean come on...why do so many Republicans watch Fox if it is so balanced?! I'm going to guess that maybe the reporting might be just a bit biased. I do watch Fox now and then just to get a different perspective.

Anyways, I was just going out on a limb....and not sure the importance of the story.

When's your next trip down?

Bajahowodd - 4-30-2009 at 10:17 AM

The marketplace seems to be dealing with this issue, too. It was reported by Continental Airlines (which has the most flights to Mexico), that one flight set to depart from Houston to Cancun on Wednesday night had only five passengers on a 157 seat plane. A US Airways flight from Phoenix to Puerto Vallarta on Wednesday had only 7 seats booked on a 120 seat aircraft 2 1/2 hours before departure. Won't be long before they will be canceling flights.

David K - 4-30-2009 at 03:03 PM

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Originally posted by Bajaboy
DK-

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Anyways, I was just going out on a limb....and not sure the importance of the story.

When's your next trip down?


ZJ-

The importance of the story was about airlines not flying to Mexico... it is a major airline, is it not (Air France)...

Next trip for sure is Memorial Day weekend... would like to get to the beach sooner if we can, but with the economy getting worse instead of better... that may not happen!

How was Pancho doing on your last visit to San Rafael?

You guys ever want to come up to Oceanside for a BBQ, XX Special Lager (on tap) and chill out day, let us know!:light:

"BAJA" SPOKEN HERE!:cool:

Bajaboy - 4-30-2009 at 09:52 PM

DK-

Pancho is doing great and even looks as if he has gained some weight. We had a blast as usual.

BBQ sounds like a good time....XX on tap...nice!

slimshady - 4-30-2009 at 11:03 PM

David k, I hate to break it to you but Fox news is not really a news station and it really insn't fair and balanced. Besides being a right wing entity which caters to Murdoch and the neocons, They did help disract some mindless fellow americans with the Octomom to take them away from their miserable lives.

Want news in the U.S., good luck finding it.

fishbuck - 4-30-2009 at 11:09 PM

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Originally posted by slimshady
David k, I hate to break it to you but Fox news is not really a news station and it really insn't fair and balanced. Besides being a right wing entity which caters to Murdoch and the neocons, They did help disract some mindless fellow americans with the Octomom to take them away from their miserable lives.

Want news in the U.S., good luck finding it.


Ya, but David K has XX Special Lager on tap so... what other news matters?

Bajahowodd - 4-30-2009 at 11:12 PM

Being an ostrich is not necessarily good advice for everyone. Sadly, the most unbiased and hype-free news source in this country is BBC America.

David K - 5-1-2009 at 08:03 AM

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Originally posted by slimshady
David k, I hate to break it to you but Fox news is not really a news station and it really insn't fair and balanced. Besides being a right wing entity which caters to Murdoch and the neocons, They did help disract some mindless fellow americans with the Octomom to take them away from their miserable lives.

Want news in the U.S., good luck finding it.


Please address this kind of stuff to you fellow Koolaid drinkers... I never mention Fox news in my post and was only responding to Zac's reply... Why would a story about an Air France crew refusing to fly to Mexico make anyone think it came from Fox...? What purpose does bringing up Fox news have other than to spur attacks by the hope and change groupies?

If the president in office right now had an (R) next to his name instead of a (D), the media would be tearing him up for all the gaffs, errors, teleprompter goofs, unqualified appointments, increase in unemployment, hugging haters of this country... on and on... A Democrat president can do no wrong in their eyes... and if only one network is going to be the watchdog for this tyranny, open-minded people should want that. What should matter is that America and freedom be saved... otherwise, the outcome will not be very attractive, I believe.

Bajaboy - 5-1-2009 at 08:18 AM

DK-

If the president in office had a (R) next to his name, Fox would be talking about how great he is and in turn you would. Think about some of the things you point out: teleprompter goofs (Oh Bush had a way with words), unqualified appointments (hmmm...does FEMA come to mind), increase in unemployment (how in the heck does someone in office a 102 days cause all this unemployment?)

Here's a pretty good site for an idea about what the general population is thinking: http://www.gallup.com/Home.aspx

I hope this is on the Fox approved reading list.

Bajaboy - 5-1-2009 at 08:59 AM

DK-from what I recall, the economic engine behind the Bush Admin's supposed strong economy was the housing market. Yes? So if that was the case, your claims that tax cuts generated the "prosperous" growth you mention.

As for Bush and his spending habits, yes he spent a lot of money in Iraq and Afganistan. Looking back, I don't really see a good return on investment. Do you? And how did Bush keep us any safer than any other President on watch?

Call the current administration whatever Fox suggests. But I suggest you take a hard look at some of the un-Constitutional acts the prior Cheney dictatorship inscribed.

And as I have said all along, I am not a party soldier. I merely try to call a spade a spade regardless of party affiliation. So be careful when you classify me with other folks.

In the spirit of good and positive discussion.:biggrin:

David K - 5-1-2009 at 09:03 AM

Thank you Zac...

Weekend after this for bbq & beer, give us a heads up...

Bajaboy - 5-1-2009 at 09:13 AM

I'll be running the PCT 50 mile trail run that weekend. We can talk offline for a better weekend.

cantinflas - 5-1-2009 at 09:18 AM

Unbelievable how rightys take no responsibility for the mess they put us in.

CaboRon - 5-2-2009 at 07:03 AM

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Originally posted by Bajahowodd
Being an ostrich is not necessarily good advice for everyone. Sadly, the most unbiased and hype-free news source in this country is BBC America.


You got that right

Rightys???

bajabillybob - 5-2-2009 at 07:06 AM

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Originally posted by cantinflas
Unbelievable how rightys take no responsibility for the mess they put us in.



Yes, Chris Dodd and Barney Frank are really right wingers. :lol:

Pescador - 5-2-2009 at 11:54 AM

What is this insanity that you would expect any of the news channels to give a fair, unbiased, and non-politically slanted perception. Am I so uninformed that I need for some clown on TV to tell me how to think and lead me to make up my mind on an issue? Least of all the BBC who are just biased in another direction. Do I expect to turn on MSNBC and get a non-liberal, non socialistic slant to an occurence?
And the worse insult is that it is somehow denigrating to watch Fox news? As in comparison to MSNBC?
I doubt that anything I have ever heard on Fox news led me to be more conservative and the idea of feeding myself the pablum of MSNBC would somehow make me more liberal is a real slap at my intelligence and ability to discern but that is probably why some people scream so loudly and want the "fairness doctrine" instituted.

jodiego - 5-2-2009 at 12:52 PM

All the republicans throw out the "he kept us safe after 911" as one of the few good things George Bush did in his 8 years in office. Maybe I'm missing something here, but didn't 911 happen on his watch?

[Edited on 5-2-2009 by jodiego]

Bajahowodd - 5-2-2009 at 01:00 PM

You make a point, Pescador. Surveys show that folks tend to gravitate to the commentary they expect to support their own point of view.

I made the BBC reference mostly because they concentrate on delivering news rather than bluster. We already know that we can't find news of any importance on local TV. They are preoccupied with hyping the entertainment shows on the channel and car chases.

All things being equal, you think Joe Scarborough is a liberal??

bajabillybob - 5-2-2009 at 01:00 PM

And the flu happened on your annointed ones watch.
It funny but I remember that some people thought that pigs would fly before we elected a black president. As it turns out with this flu, they were somewhat correct.:lol:

bajabillybob - 5-2-2009 at 01:06 PM

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Originally posted by Bajahowodd
You make a point, Pescador. Surveys show that folks tend to gravitate to the commentary they expect to support their own point of view.

I made the BBC reference mostly because they concentrate on delivering news rather than bluster. We already know that we can't find news of any importance on local TV. They are preoccupied with hyping the entertainment shows on the channel and car chases.

All things being equal, you think Joe Scarborough is a liberal??


Morning Joe while entertaining to watch in the morning is also painful at times. Surrounded by all these libs sans old Patrick Buchanen, he's like a long tailed cat in a room full of rocking chairs afraid to say the wrong thing for fear he will end up like Tucker Carlson. Fired from his show but unable to get out of his contract to seek another on air gig from another network. Still the best morning show on cable though.

Bajahowodd - 5-2-2009 at 01:19 PM

While I really don't like using labels, and really don't like when they are used pejoratively, I will admit to having a social and politcal outlook that would be considered left of center. That being said, I personally like Joe a great deal. And the show as well. Joe is thoughtful and not unwilling to admit he doesn't know something. And there is a generally civil discourse among those on the show. I just don't like the ranters and bashers found on other networks.

As for Tucker, he was getting crap from both sides as he is fundamentally neither Republican nor Democrat but Libertarian.

desertcpl - 5-2-2009 at 01:20 PM

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Originally posted by jodiego
All the republicans throw out the "he kept us safe after 911" as one of the few good things George Bush did in his 8 years in office. Maybe I'm missing something here, but didn't 911 happen on his watch?

[Edited on 5-2-2009 by jodiego]


good point I have always been wondering about why they didnt see that coming, what I have heard , they did have alot of intel about 911,, cant remember what country now warned us about us being attacked,, but Bush choose to ignore the warning and also if I remember some of our intel people also informed the bush adminstration that some thing was coming down the pike

Bajahowodd - 5-2-2009 at 01:21 PM

And in case no one noticed, this thread went off-topic some time yesterday.

:lol::lol:

Bajahowodd - 5-2-2009 at 01:25 PM

Folks in the Clinton administration went public with the fact that they had serious worries and provided Bush with lots of intel. Some of the nutjob conspiracists point to that as evidence that Bush was complicit in the attacks. I wouldn't go anywhere near that. Ineptitude is one thing. treason another.

desertcpl - 5-2-2009 at 01:32 PM

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Originally posted by Bajahowodd
Folks in the Clinton administration went public with the fact that they had serious worries and provided Bush with lots of intel. Some of the nutjob conspiracists point to that as evidence that Bush was complicit in the attacks. I wouldn't go anywhere near that. Ineptitude is one thing. treason another.


no I wouldnt go there either. but Inemtitude YES