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How to Survive a Baja Party Next Door?

Gypsy Jan - 9-1-2009 at 09:02 PM

With all respect to the people affected by Hurricane Jimena, this post might be a bit of comic relief.

On Thursday, two twenty-plus foot towers were set up around the pool, which is on the northwest ocean side. Then they set up a 250”x 100” screen on the north. (The size of the screen is just my estimate, it might have been larger. )

There was a sound check on Thursday – it was loud, but not too loud and the music didn’t set my teeth on edge, so I thought, “Maybe, this isn’t going to be so bad.”

On Friday night, the music, the videos projected on the immense screen and the flashing strobe spotlights started at 9:00 pm. The volume and intensity of the assault increased g to window-rattling loud. The “entertainment” played to 2:30 am.

On Saturday, the music and strobe lights and video projections started again, very early, before sunset and continued until 4:30 am on Sunday.:o

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Packoderm - 9-1-2009 at 09:52 PM

I'd like to see some pictures of the action. A warning would be nice. Who's property was it on - a condo compound? Where were the party goers from and where did they stay? That would have great bearing on how you could handle retribution in the early morning hours and on through the early afternoon cutting up firewood with chainsaws and such.

noproblemo2 - 9-1-2009 at 11:18 PM

The info is a documentation of events, with 4 edits, but what are the circumstances involved with the "event"?

Gypsy Jan - 9-2-2009 at 12:08 AM

nopremala2

My posts are edited, because I am legally blind and I go back over them seveal times because I do not like to make grammatical mistakes.

Also,when I am trying to make a big old hippie freaking liberal statement about saving whatver, my dogs get impatient and bump my elbows with their noses, and say, "Feed me, Love me, right now."

I am imperfect, but dogs are perfect.

oldlady - 9-2-2009 at 05:55 AM

None of us are perfect, Jan, you're closer than most. And, I have a very imperfect dog...love her anyway.

Diver - 9-2-2009 at 06:40 AM

How to Survive a Baja Party Next Door?


Uh......join them ?? :?: :biggrin:

shari - 9-2-2009 at 06:46 AM

ditto diver's comment....even industrial earplugs dont work for that type of event so close....so drink some coffee or coke...have a shot of tequila and go party....you can do it once in awhile no matter what your age.

Packoderm - 9-2-2009 at 06:52 AM

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Originally posted by Diver
How to Survive a Baja Party Next Door?


Uh......join them ?? :?: :biggrin:


Yes. And then they can join in on the cutting and splitting of the firewood the next morning? You'd need gas powered leaf blowers to gather up the sawdust too.

noproblemo2 - 9-2-2009 at 07:09 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Gypsy Jan
nopremala2

My posts are edited, because I am legally blind and I go back over them seveal times because I do not like to make grammatical mistakes.

Also,when I am trying to make a big old hippie freaking liberal statement about saving whatver, my dogs get impatient and bump my elbows with their noses, and say, "Feed me, Love me, right now."

I am imperfect, but dogs are perfect.


Ok now I get it, so how bout a flare gun next time, straight over their heads!!! PS we're ALL imperfect, and yes, our dogs are ALL perfect, totally agree with you. Sorry they put you thru that...

k-rico - 9-2-2009 at 07:38 AM

I find 99% of Mexican live music very painful so instead of joining in or enduring the pain, we, along with the dogs, hop in the RV and get out of Dodge, er, uh, Tijuana. Esteban Loaiza lives down the street. He and his girlfriend Jenny Rivera throw some LOUD parties.

If only he'd hire Carlos Santana................he can afford it.

Dave - 9-2-2009 at 08:15 AM

I would expect my neighbors to have the courtesy to consult with me first. If not, I would find the plug and pull it.

maspacifico - 9-2-2009 at 09:28 AM

A modern Mexican party cannot be a success unless they have ear splitting amplification, on lousy equipment, play tuba music that shakes the house, a cute kid singing karoke.....endlessly, then the younger "hip" people take over and play gangsta rap with lyrics that would curdle milk except nobody understands the lyrics. And, this has to go on till at least 5AM. I'm with K-rico....

Oh, I forgot.....usually there is another party a block away!

lingililingili - 9-2-2009 at 09:54 AM

That big ole thing is not imperfect, just bigger than most people!


Quote:
Originally posted by oldlady
None of us are perfect, Jan, you're closer than most. And, I have a very imperfect dog...love her anyway.

lingililingili - 9-2-2009 at 09:57 AM

Gypsy: I forgot to mention that we find earplugs to be very effective, gets the noise down to bearable decibels.

mtgoat666 - 9-2-2009 at 10:57 AM

makes friends, and get invited.

And if...

Dave - 9-2-2009 at 11:41 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by mtgoat666
makes friends, and get invited.


You don't want to get invited?

Good neighbors have respect each other.

mtgoat666 - 9-2-2009 at 12:38 PM

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Originally posted by Dave
Quote:
Originally posted by mtgoat666
makes friends, and get invited.


You don't want to get invited?

Good neighbors have respect each other.


perhaps Beastie Boys said it best: Fight for your right to paartty!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Everybody should be able to throw a noisy party every once in a while.

Absolutely

Dave - 9-2-2009 at 01:54 PM

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Originally posted by mtgoat666
Everybody should be able to throw a noisy party every once in a while.


As long as their neighbors are in agreement.

maspacifico - 9-2-2009 at 04:22 PM

Dave
I agree if it's a gringo neighborhood. I'm talking about my observations in the middle of the Todos Santos barrio. I wouldn't even think about complaining to anyone about the noise. It's their town and that's the way they party. It is just a shame that it's so loud....and usually Ranchero music. If I knew how though I'd like to get a translation of our rap music to the older folks so they know what's being broadcast over the whole town. Actually I need to get most of it translated! What is that garbage anyway? And now it is spreading to Reggae and more contemporary Mexican music. I guess I'm officially old. Where's my c-cktail? Where am I?

Dave - 9-2-2009 at 04:54 PM

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Originally posted by maspacifico
Dave
I agree if it's a gringo neighborhood. I'm talking about my observations in the middle of the Todos Santos barrio. I wouldn't even think about complaining to anyone about the noise. It's their town and that's the way they party.


Gringos don't have a concession on politeness. In fact, most of my Mexican neighbors ask if wouldn't mind and I'm always invited to their fiestas. Mostly it's the tourists/renters who are a$$holes. Whether they come from the States... or Mexicali. :rolleyes:

dtbushpilot - 9-2-2009 at 05:55 PM

Our neighbor in San Diego was having a 50th birthday party and let us know in advance that there would be a live band and lots of noise. Rather than stay home and close the windows we decided to join them. They had food and an open bar (with bartender) and a great band. Jill remembered one of the guys in the band from back in the old days.

We ate, drank, danced and had a great time and only had to stagger a few yards to get home.

I would bet that most folks having a loud party would be happy to have the neighbors join them, especially in Mexico. Beats the heck out of sitting home being peeed......dt

Thanks for Your Responses To My Whine

Gypsy Jan - 9-2-2009 at 06:47 PM

I originated this post with the objective of giving a giggle to people who had a lot more to worry about (cough, hurricane, cough). After all, who doesn't enjoy a story about a big, loud obnoxious party next door thrown by people who don't invite you and don't care about how they are disrupting your evening and sleep? Including, oh G.., bad karaoke sung from 2:20 am to 3:30 am.

I am in recovery from the migraine and the eye-floaters are subsiding, for those of you who inquired into my health.

For the record. this party was an over-the-top extravaganza that lasted for three days and we were not notified, consulted or invited to participate, so, that was it as far as us joining the revelries. As my southern belle grandmother always instructed me, "You never no mind ever go where you aren't expected."

To Dave: I couldn't pull any plugs - they were securely connected to the main house and guarded by ugly a.. somebodies.

To Packoderm, there are no pictures to share - think high brush and palm trees blocking our view (and cameras).

Dave - 9-2-2009 at 06:53 PM

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Originally posted by Gypsy Jan
To Dave: I couldn't pull any plugs - they were securely connected to the main house and guarded by ugly a.. somebodies.


Isn't the meter out by the road? ;D

Oh Dave

Gypsy Jan - 9-2-2009 at 07:00 PM

You are far more crafty and subtle than I am.

If I had the knowledge of how that major electrical thingy works, I would have pulled the plug in a heartbeat.

Unfortunately, my experience is more in the way of conversation, interior design and flower arrangements.

BajaNuts - 9-2-2009 at 10:09 PM

yea, the whole thing of neighborhood parties is a delicate one.


We've had some HumDinger's in our neck of NowhereVille, USA...

All nighters, folks taking off in MoWogs and shooting propane tanks.....(Nuts2 was part of that caper...:biggrin: )

but it's all good cuz we usually only have 1-2 major neighborhood rocking parties a year.

We usually know then things are happening and if we are not invited, we try to make sure the mutt is tied up so he doesn't be come the uninvited guest................which has happened more than once!!! What can I say the dog is a party animal!

One of the percs of a small town is when you invite the owner of the general store...who has a large walk-in cooler..... to your party....you can keep the extra kegs in the store cooler and go retrieve them throughout the evening (after hours) and into the early morning hours as required.

Anyway, it seems to happen a couple times a year,,,,,,loud music, all night traffic......

If we lived in the city, that would be normal noise. But since we DON'T live in the city, it's a big deal that everyone deals with on the 1-2 times a year that it happens. It just seems to be that at some point in time, each of our neighbors has had a "loud obnoxious" party (including ourselves) and it's OK because we know that it's not an every day thing.


If it were an everyday thing, that would be hard to take.

Special occasion..........ROCK ON>>>>>>>>>> even if we're not invited! Everyday occasion....that would be hard to take.

It's all good~~~~

[Edited on 9-3-2009 by BajaNuts]

pacside - 9-3-2009 at 05:18 AM

I would rather deal with large party noise a couple times a year than the constant leaf blowers and chain saws I hear weekly where I live in semi rural norcal. However, nothing worse then not being able to sleep due to loud noise playing into the night. Had that issue at our baja beach house over easter week.

However, nothing beats the absolute needles going through my brain when I took my then 4 year old son to the Mexican Heritage festival in San Jose, CA a couple years back. We got there, walked through where all the booths were and every other one had these HUGE boom boxes and speakers screaming loud music. They were all pointed toward the center where you walk and playing loud different music at the same time. I had never felt so overwhelmed by loud music coming from all different directions. It was a shame because there looked to be some very good food and cultural activities to watch. We left after 10 minutes. It' weird that one would consider that 'entertainment'...it was more like torture to me...couldn't get out of there fast enough.

pacside

DENNIS - 9-3-2009 at 07:54 AM

I've always thought that Mexicans are inherently hard of hearing. If not inherently, developed from an early age.
I hate noise...especially when there shouldn't be any, like after the sun goes down.

CaboRon - 9-3-2009 at 08:28 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by DENNIS
I've always thought that Mexicans are inherently hard of hearing. If not inherently, developed from an early age.
I hate noise...especially when there shouldn't be any, like after the sun goes down.


Thankyou

SiReNiTa - 9-3-2009 at 09:35 AM

;) question: How to survive a party in baja
answer: get ur butt down there and have fun LOL!!!

DENNIS - 9-3-2009 at 09:53 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by SiReNiTa
;) question: How to survive a party in baja
answer: get ur butt down there and have fun LOL!!!



A party is a party untill it turns into a rock concert. There's a place for everything and some events are too large for residential neighborhoods. To deny that is thoughtless, inconsiderate and selfish.

DENNIS - 9-3-2009 at 10:53 AM

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Originally posted by soulpatch
It ain't our country brother


That doesn't make it tolerable as you would know if your wife and twins were trying to sleep through it. You KNOW you wouldn't be shrugging your shoulders then.

DENNIS - 9-3-2009 at 11:26 AM

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Originally posted by soulpatch
Forgive me, too, for my lack of eloquence this morning....first good night's sleep in a week or so.



There's been distractions down here, Frank. Forgot that you would be involved with the fires. Thanks, again, for your service.
I'll turn down the radio so you can catch some ZZZZZZZZZs.

Getting your attention

wessongroup - 10-25-2009 at 11:57 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Gypsy Jan
nopremala2

My posts are edited, because I am legally blind and I go back over them seveal times because I do not like to make grammatical mistakes.

Also,when I am trying to make a big old hippie freaking liberal statement about saving whatver, my dogs get impatient and bump my elbows with their noses, and say, "Feed me, Love me, right now."

I am imperfect, but dogs are perfect.


Hey Jan, do you mean they act like this? :):)


Hi Wessongroup

Gypsy Jan - 10-25-2009 at 01:10 PM

Kind of - no scary eyes, the teeth are bigger and when they lean on me, my chair scoots across the room, taking my hands off the keyboard.

Then they block my access back to the computer. I guess that is what you might call an "intervention".

Iflyfish - 10-25-2009 at 01:41 PM

There is a live and let live attitude in Mexico. Part of the appeal of Mexico is that very attitude. However life is a series of trade offs.

We for instance cannot park my motor home in our driveway for more than three days PER YEAR. The HOA N-zi's posted a note on our door when I was out of town for a day and the garbage cans were not taken in and OUT OF SIGHT. I was once called a Sexist Pig for holding the door open for a young woman in Berkeley. I got some very nasty looks in the south for insufficient display of patriotism at the raising of the flag.

I recall the graciousness and tolerance of me shown by Mexicans in my Hippie days. God bless 'em.

It is a trade off, give me a drink and lets party on. I know that I will not be hasstled in Mexico for my behavior, as odd as that may be.

I have learned to bring ear plugs.

Viva Mexico!

Iflyfish

JESSE - 10-25-2009 at 01:45 PM

My $2 earplugs are one of my best invenstments.

That's it

wessongroup - 10-25-2009 at 02:12 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by dtbushpilot
Our neighbor in San Diego was having a 50th birthday party and let us know in advance that there would be a live band and lots of noise. Rather than stay home and close the windows we decided to join them. They had food and an open bar (with bartender) and a great band. Jill remembered one of the guys in the band from back in the old days.

We ate, drank, danced and had a great time and only had to stagger a few yards to get home.

I would bet that most folks having a loud party would be happy to have the neighbors join them, especially in Mexico. Beats the heck out of sitting home being peeed......dt


Have ended up at some nice parties in just this fashion... yeah, I get tired too.. but, I'm trying to put off the dirt nap for a little while longer..

My son thinks T.J. is the New York of the West Coast.. he likes it the "pounding music" all the time, plus all the rest that goes with it... he keeps coming back ok..

Maybe 40 or so years ago, but, today I run for cover when it starts pounding like that ,some place quite....... unless someone says, hey.. you want to come over and have some beer and some food..

I can't help it, I'm a weak person!!

It's going to be dangerous by tomorrow, were leaving again to go down... we have been back less than a week.. have gotten bit again by the Baja bug.. just got some more auto insurance and by around 9-10 were out of here... going south not sure how long.. I did not want to come back a last week.

Sorry, someone asked where I got XX's amber.. I don't know.. the wife did the shopping while I stayed in the car with the kids (dogs).. which is another story.. sitting in the parking lot of the Walmart in Ensenada with two dogs for an hour and a half (was told Walmart was just great to shop for neat food items that you don't see in the states).. got pitched some really good BS stories for money, I'm mean really good!! anyway she got the stuff.. I did not even know what she had until we got back.

Wife just surprises the heck out of me... think she's out me wired... yeah, beside being weak I'm easy too.. :lol::lol::lol:

Appeal?

Dave - 10-25-2009 at 02:27 PM

Sure... unless you can't get to sleep.

Quote:
Originally posted by Iflyfish
There is a live and let live attitude in Mexico. Part of the appeal of Mexico is that very attitude.


I understand this to mean:

I live the life I choose and allow others to do the same.

All well and good...if we're on the same page.

But if living my life interferes with others doing the same then we have a problem, no?

No matter how you slice it this becomes an issue of responsibility and common courtesy and has nothing to do with culture or custom.

Thanks I needed that

wessongroup - 10-25-2009 at 02:31 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Gypsy Jan
Kind of - no scary eyes, the teeth are bigger and when they lean on me, my chair scoots across the room, taking my hands off the keyboard.

Then they block my access back to the computer. I guess that is what you might call an "intervention".



:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

Iflyfish - 10-25-2009 at 09:49 PM

You write "No matter how you slice it this becomes an issue of responsibility and common courtesy and has nothing to do with culture or custom."

Really.

It doesn't ask how do you survived a Palo Alto Party next door. In Palo Alto you would call the cops because the neighbors would be breaking a disturbing the peace law and they would come out with decible meters etc. If you lay around saying to yourself "these people are irresponsible, and lack common courtesy" over and over in your head you might end up doing something really stupid to teach them some responsibility and common courtesy.

The question is "How to Survive a Baja Party Next Door?" and we are all familiar with the issue, I wonder why that is? Maybe they do things differently in Mexico and that is why the person is asking the question and the Mexicans on the board are saying "get ear plugs", "join the party" etc. you don't hear them regailing their neighbors for being disrespectful and suggesting interfering.

Iflyfishandusedtopartyheartywiththebestof'emtillIgotoldandearplugs

tjBill - 10-25-2009 at 10:26 PM

I have ear plugs and sound reducing ear muffs. :light:

Wear both of them and you can reduce the sound by 60 decibels.

to the bone

wessongroup - 10-26-2009 at 06:12 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by soulpatch
Quote:
Originally posted by DENNIS
I hate noise...especially when there shouldn't be any, like after the sun goes down.


Just look how much time you spend on this board....98% of it is just noise.....;D


soulpatch, your to the bone:o:o

BajaNuts - 10-26-2009 at 09:42 PM

seems to boil down to-
is it a regular occurance?
is it a special occasion?



How much background noise is the norm for the neighborhood? City? Rural?

Do you like the person throwing the party or do you have a beef with them about something else and are just looking for issues to beech about?


How much are those really good ear plugs????

Diver - 10-26-2009 at 09:51 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by JESSE
My $2 earplugs are one of my best invenstments.


They kill the sound but don't stop your body from vibrating. :lol:

Iflyfish - 10-26-2009 at 10:32 PM

Diver

"They kill the sound but don't stop your body from vibrating."

So we should dance or is that Mexican defibrillation?
:biggrin::o:biggrin:

Iflyfishwhennotdoingthemacerenaorjoiningthecongaline