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advice for the first time drivers?

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lovebahia22 - 9-9-2009 at 01:36 AM

any advice for a girl in her twenty somethings, who will be driving for the first tine, trip south, pas tsan quintien. simple and to the point.

fishbuck - 9-9-2009 at 01:46 AM

Did you ever go on that fishing trip to Ensenada about a month ago?
How'd that go?

bajajurel - 9-9-2009 at 05:03 AM

Drive only during the daylight hours and take it easy and enjoy the scenery. Always stop and get gas. Carry an extra 5 gallons of gas especially from El Rosario to Guerrero Negro. Have your vehicle serviced before you leave home. Make sure your spare is in good condition and you have a good jack and lug wrench (I also carry a tool box). Carry plenty of drinking water and some food, a big hat, good walking shoes just in case and a 1st Aid Kit. If you do break down get your vehicle off the highway. Always someone will stop to help you if you do breakdown. If you can - caravan with others and take the usual precautions any woman should reasonably take. Watch out for the semis. Check for road conditions before you leave.

Learn to speak Spanish - it helps.

I drive from San Diego to Guerrero Negro on the first day, then Santa Rosalia or Loreto the second day, then Puerto Lopez Mateos or La Paz or Los Barriles the third day, etc. etc. Of course I fish on the way so the stops also depends on what's biting.

Keep it between the lines.
Jerry

805gregg - 9-9-2009 at 06:51 AM

Find a companion.

monoloco - 9-9-2009 at 06:55 AM

Take your time and explore interesting places along the way.

grmpb - 9-9-2009 at 07:01 AM

if you are going to go south of el rosario you need to fill your tank there. no other gas stations until bola or jesus maria 20 miles north of guerrero negro. other than people selling it out of barrels in catavina and the junction of hwy. 1 and the raod to bola

David K - 9-9-2009 at 07:48 AM

You will do fine... many single American girls have driven the highway.

As stated above, top your tank at the Pemex gas station in El Rosario... It is an honest station run by a Baja Nomad member ('BajaCactus'/ Antonio).

How far past San Quintin are you going? The next Pemex station on Hwy. 1 is at Villa Jesus Maria, 200 miles from El Rosario. Gas is also sold from cans at Cataviña and the Bahia de los Angeles junction (77 and 140 miles from El Rosario).

Yummy food is found all over... in the remote areas, look for truckers parked next to ranchos... that double as cafes on the highway... and there are always places to eat and taco stands in every town.

El Rosario is 220 miles from the border and makes an excellent first night stop if you begin in Southern California. The Baja Cactus Motel next to the Pemex station and the Turista Motel, 2 miles down the highway are both very nice and inexpensive motels with great beds and showers... rates between $25-$35 is all.

rocmoc - 9-9-2009 at 08:56 AM

When in doubt SLOW down!

When in doubt DON"T stop!

rocmoc n AZ/Mexico

Paulina - 9-9-2009 at 09:54 PM

I'd like to add a a few suggestions;

Don't dress "girly". Wear clothing that won't hinder you should you break down, have to ask for help, change a tire, etc.

Wear a wedding ring. Buy a fake one if you need to.

Because you are alone, don't stop to help anyone along side the road. Don't give anyone a ride.

If anyone would ask me where my husband was, and it happened frequently, for example at military check points, I would signal that he was following along behind me, a few minutes back.

I used to have some men's clothing in the truck, carry a pair of men's working boots to put outside the door at my place, as well as the clothing to make it appear that my "husband" was around camp. If I was ever asked about him I would say he was out fishing, ran into town, etc.

It's best to not to be vulnerable. A single woman with a wave and wearing a smile can put out the wrong message.

Have a fun trip,

P<*)))>{

DavidT - 9-9-2009 at 10:26 PM

Take twice as long to drive half as far.

always pay attention

BajaDanD - 9-9-2009 at 10:40 PM

Drive as if everyone else has the right of way even when they dont.
If the car in front of you has its left turn signal on they are telling you to pass. This does not always mean its safe to pass. Use your own judgement.

elgatoloco - 9-10-2009 at 09:02 AM

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Originally posted by BajaDanD
Drive as if everyone else has the right of way even when they dont.
If the car in front of you has its left turn signal on they are telling you to pass. This does not always mean its safe to pass. Use your own judgement.

If someone is behind you and YOU want to turn left put your signal on AND stick your hand out the window to indicate your intent, otherwise they may try and pass you as you turn.

Have Fun! :dudette:

very good advice from everyone

Dianamo - 9-10-2009 at 10:12 AM

Search for someone to caravan with on this site, who may be traveling at the same time.

Personally, I would feel safer in Baja, if my car broke-down, than I would on any American freeway.

BUT:
Never let your guard down!
Listen to your intuition!
Have fun!

BajaNuts - 9-10-2009 at 10:42 AM

Welcome, lovebahia22!

Here's a link you should read! It talks about giving the wrong impression and what Mexican men interpret.

http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=36760#top

It happened to me, walking on the beach, I smiled at a guy driving along the beach and said "hola"...(just being friendly like I always am back home). Next thing I knew, he turned around, got out of the jeep and started "hitting" on me.

Especially being a "young thing", dress casual and comfortable, but not flirty. Don't draw attention to yourself by going into a restaurant for a bite to eat in short-shorts, a bikini top and stilettos.

You may not ever dress that way anyway, but I thought I'd mention it.

Trust your instincts and have fun!

Oh yea, make sure your cell phone works in Mexico. I've heard that Nextel or Verizon carriers don't work for calls (someone correct me on this one!), but if you have AT&T as your service provider, your US cell phone will work in Mexico anywhere it picks op a signal. Rates are .25-.45 cents a minute, but in an emergency, at least you have a signal.

[Edited on 9-10-2009 by BajaNuts]

Bajahowodd - 9-10-2009 at 12:04 PM

T-Mobile probably has the best coverage in Baja.

I was wondering if DK gets a spiff for everytime he promotes Antonio's gas station and hotel? :biggrin:

oldjack - 9-10-2009 at 12:10 PM

I use AT&T and it seems to work very well all up and down the pennisula... temporary highjack: if DK gets some consideration for recommending an EXCELLENT motel so be it... I would just like the concierge(sp?) service Antonio provides him and his troops

Bajahowodd - 9-10-2009 at 12:36 PM

I do note that the original post merely mentioned going "past San Quintin". Wonder how far past. It's probably just me, having joked about DK, but I just don't get a good vibe in El Rosario. Been ignored in the larger of the markets. Had maybe the worst meal in all my trips at the Baja's Best. While it's true that the physical plant at Baja Cactus is outstanding, I find the place too noisy. We basically stopped staying in El Rosario a couple of years ago. San Quintin has several very fine hotels, the obvious best of which is Jardines de Baja. They have a great restaurant next door. I usually gas at the newer Pemex by Los Pinos, and easily make it through to Jesus Maria with plenty to spare. (like if I want, all the way to GN)

CaboRon - 9-10-2009 at 05:12 PM

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Originally posted by Bajahowodd
T-Mobile probably has the best coverage in Baja.

I was wondering if DK gets a spiff for everytime he promotes Antonio's gas station and hotel? :biggrin:

Interesting, my T-Mobile got zero coverage on Hwy.1 ...

Bajahowodd - 9-10-2009 at 05:18 PM

Maybe you should have called them to turn on your international coverage. We've had great service. But, between El Rosario and Guerrero Negro, no one has much, as it's mostly off the grid.

Bajahowodd - 9-10-2009 at 05:26 PM

New Nomad, perhaps. But traveling Baja for almost three decades. And there you go again, pitching for the businesses. I've got nothing against any of them. Fact is, if Bajabound gives me a better quote than their competition, I'll enter my credit card number. I just have my preferences, to which I'm entitled. And I will repeat that although I have been to an untold number of towns, villages and cities in Baja, I just prefer to do nothing more than drive through El Rosario. Just to expand on this a bit. I noticed that on your recent trip, with your wife, you stayed at at least two places that were owned and operated by non-Mexicans. If you are so pro-Baja and its heritage..........

DENNIS - 9-10-2009 at 05:31 PM

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Originally posted by Bajahowodd
Just to expand on this a bit. I noticed that on your recent trip, with your wife, you stayed at at least two places that were owned and operated by non-Mexicans. If you are so pro-Baja and its heritage..........

Oh, Please. Who, after a tired drive, is going to check the pedigree of the owner of the motel that has hot water and clean sheets?

DianaT - 9-10-2009 at 05:45 PM

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Originally posted by David K
No howodd , I promote Antonio's business because it is a good honest place for Nomads to fill up and spend the night... The bad vibes you got have nothing to do with El Rosario, but maybe more to do with your attitude... I can only tell you we have stayed many, many days and nights in El Rosario and found the people very nice... You need to stay awhile anyplace before passing such judgement on a whole town.

David, it really is a matter of opinion. Not everyone loves El Rosario---I find it OK, but it is not one of my favorite places---why would you say it was only his attitude?? No, his opinion.

For many, many years we have used the Pemex in El Rosario --long before there was a Baja Nomads, and still do, but try to use the bathrooms elsewhere. For years, they were the best----not any more.

Baja Cactus---still a nice place, except as of a few weeks ago, the last time we were there, they were refilling their complimentary lotion and shampoo bottles---something I find offensive---don't offer them. We never use them, but picked up the lotion bottle, the top fell off as it was overfilled, so we looked at the shampoo bottle---seal broken.

Also, they are not up front about the lack of internet---happened last two time. Lady says yes there is internet, but later when I inquired why I could hook up to the network, but there was no internet, she said, oh no, the internet is not working here---you need to go next door. No internet, no problem, just say so when asked about it upon checking in.

Now, I U2Ued Antonio about these things---no response which was disappointing.

There are places in El Rosario where we like to eat and think that Baja Bed and Breakfast is one of the WORST. But others like it.

Again, it is a matter of opinion----you really like El Rosario, great, but not everyone does. We love Bahia Asuncion, and have had people there who could not wait to leave.

Promote the places YOU like and use, but please allow others to have their opinions and to express them.
Diane

[Edited on 9-11-2009 by jdtrotter]

DENNIS - 9-10-2009 at 05:57 PM

Well said, Diane.

BajaNuts - 9-10-2009 at 06:48 PM

Haven't seen our first time driver back here yet, hope we didn't scare her off...

There are these really cool abbreviations, like...
lol
roflmao
ttf
(we all know what those are)

and my favorites-

imo = in my OPINION
jmho = just my humble/honest OPINION

good tags to add to things like "...IMO, the best restaurant in XXX is....."

ask 10 Nomads, get 10 right answers :biggrin:

lovebahia22 - 9-10-2009 at 06:56 PM

I'm not going to baja for the first time. just driving for the first time. I've always just watched my parents and now im going sans the parents. Thanks for all the wonderful advice!!!

BajaNuts - 9-10-2009 at 07:03 PM

you go, girl!

DianaT - 9-10-2009 at 07:05 PM

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Originally posted by lovebahia22
I'm not going to baja for the first time. just driving for the first time. I've always just watched my parents and now im going sans the parents. Thanks for all the wonderful advice!!!

I really think Paulina had some of the best advice, especially since it sounds like you are young!

Have fun

mulegemichael - 9-10-2009 at 07:06 PM

when we drove through el rosario last year it was about three weeks after the horrible shooting/murder at the cute little roadside stand...we filled up at the cactus station and everyone had that "deer in the headlights" look...i chatted with the attendant and he was afraid to talk to me..but he whispered things like "the only time anyone comes out of their house is just to go to work and back"..or, "my wife and kids are not allowed to go out at any time"...all the while his head was snapping back and forth like someone was gonna mow him down on the spot...i was ready to leave ...and don't bother topping it off...whatever

woody with a view - 9-10-2009 at 07:12 PM

if you drive....

get the insurance and the FMT, aka tourist visa!!!!!!!!!!

wessongroup - 9-10-2009 at 10:25 PM

Keep asking questions here, there is tremendous amount of experience and knowledge more than willing to give to just about anyone who is somewhat normal

BornFisher - 9-10-2009 at 10:52 PM

If you`re heading south and crossing in San Ysidro, don`t wait until 6 PM!!!
I came northbound tonight and couldn`t believe the traffic jam getting into Mexico!! Had to be at least 1/2 mile long, with 8 lanes coming together for probably 3 lanes in! One hour easy!!
I`ve done many a crossing in my life but tonight was the worse I`ve ever seen going into Mexico!!

Skipjack Joe - 9-10-2009 at 10:52 PM

If you encounter a group of inebriated Mexican men and you're all alone - move on. Don't make small talk. If in a car then keep driving.

Nothing will probably ever happen to you but this is probably the most dangerous situation for a young female tourist. They know they can get away with it because nobody knows you down there in the countryside. Nobody will take your word for what happened.

Paulina gives sound advice. We're two different cultures. What we view as being friendly some Mexicans interpret as a 'come on'.

Alan - 9-11-2009 at 08:20 AM

You have a U2U

Diver - 9-11-2009 at 08:46 AM

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Originally posted by lovebahia22
any advice for a girl in her twenty somethings, who will be driving for the first tine, trip south, pas tsan quintien. simple and to the point.

Yes; please take me !!! Please ?!?! :biggrin:

I am "experienced" !! :lol:

Was that "simple and to the point" enough for ya ?? :biggrin:

[Edited on 9-11-2009 by Diver]

Diver - 9-11-2009 at 08:51 AM

So ..... when do we leave and where are we going ?
Do I need my tent ?
Can I bring my dogs ?
Do you surf ?
Like fishing ?
Toples .... oops, nevermind.
Fish tacos ?
Gloria Esteban music ?

Let me know; I can't wait !!! :biggrin:

Barry A. - 9-11-2009 at 09:33 AM

In a previous post, JDTrotter (Diane) said the following:

"Baja Cactus---still a nice place, except as of a few weeks ago, the last time we were there, they were refilling their complimentary lotion and shampoo bottles---something I find offensive---don't offer them. We never use them, but picked up the lotion bottle, the top fell off as it was overfilled, so we looked at the shampoo bottle---seal broken"

This statement tells me volumes about your sensitivities, Diane, and I now better understand better why you make the comments you often do. Nothing wrong with that, but it is so different than me------It would never occur to me to be upset about "refilling the lotion and shampoo bottles" at a motel------actually, I thought most motels did that, but I really never asked or paid much attention.

It just points out how different we are----- we all are so different-----and convinces me more and more to just go with the flow and not be offended by what others say, or do. Very few people, I believe, are really out to be mean, or to offend-------they are just trying to be helpful, in their own way.

It is all very interesting (to me) how we all react to each other, and to what we read-------.

Barry

DianaT - 9-11-2009 at 09:47 AM

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Originally posted by Barry A.

This statement tells me volumes about your sensitivities
Barry

I doubt it. We often stay in motels in Baja and other places that others would run from----cobwebs, leaking pipes, etc. We often say about places, it is what it is and if the bed is somewhat OK, and if the water is sometimes hot, that is good. Well, we have also stayed in many in Mexico and Central America with cold water only.

It really is not about sensitivities, it is about being dishonest. Well, I guess that is a sensitivity---I am sensitive to dishonesty and deception.

Diane ---

[Edited on 9-11-2009 by jdtrotter]

Barry A. - 9-11-2009 at 09:54 AM

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Originally posted by jdtrotter

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Originally posted by Barry A.

This statement tells me volumes about your sensitivities
Barry

NOW I am REALLY confused---------you are blowing out of the water all my well thought out conclusions---------EVERYBODY is sensitive to "dishonesty and deception"----------I fail to see "dishonesty and deception" in the things you appear to get upset about.

Maybe (obviously) it's just me------------- :?:

I withdraw my conclusions in dismay------------

Barry

Bajahowodd - 9-11-2009 at 11:31 AM

To lovebahia22- I apologize for hijacking the thread. A number of folks have posted some very good advice, especially for a female traveling in a different culture. I guess I have an itchy trigger finger when it comes to the unsolicited "pitching" of individual businesses. My bad. Hope you have a great trip. And, I still don't see that you actually shared just how far you are planning to travel South.

David K - 9-11-2009 at 05:14 PM

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Originally posted by jdtrotter

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Wow... this is hard to believe you would make up such a story Diane... why?

The little comp. shampoo bottles hold just enough for one or maybe two uses... there is no room to refill, let alone time expense... they are sealed bottles... as well. Are you saying that his trained staff goes through the waste basket and pulls out empty or used shampoo bottles? Man, this is something out of CNN or MSNBC! Would you use a personal care product in a motel from a broken seal bottle, anyway?

There is full time staff to keep the Pemex station bathroom clean... if they fail Antonio wants us to tell him, as he lives 220 miles away and can't be there everyday.

Baja's Best is totally remodeled and the food has always been good... if you don't like the relaxed 'Baja style' atmosphere there... then I suggest Cabo.

There is no comparison to Asuncion... apples and oranges. Asuncion has one retaurant with two items on their menu (meat or fish)... it was good, but one place compared with a dozen in Rosario? That was 2 years ago, maybe the menu has grown or there is another place?

I would drive out there for Shari's sashimi/ sushi anyday!

There is good and not so good everywhere... I just don't think you need to make a place sound gross like you just did.

As for u2u unanswered... Have you seen Antonio post here lately? Try his email instead... or call him (leave a message at the motel's phone).

DianaT - 9-11-2009 at 05:33 PM

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Originally posted by David K

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Originally posted by jdtrotter

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David, if you choose to believe that I made this story up about what we found at Baja Cactus the last time we were there, then go for it-----I guess now if someone disagrees with you, they are a liar?

Also, try a course in reading comprehension, it might help. As I said, some people like Baja Bed and Breakfast, some don't----but I guess that is also a lie? We happen to be among the ones who do not like it! But, since you think it is good, well, I guess that is the final word.

Another reading comprehension problem. I was not comparing El Rosario to Bahia Asuncion---just making a point, but I guess it went over your head. Some like some places, some don't---simple, David, simple----

I wouldn't get personal David, but I may be a lot of things, but a liar is not among them---and that is a very personal insult.

I even thought about answering the U2U you sent me in a open friendly manner-----but it would be a total waste of time.

Diane

mulegemichael - 9-11-2009 at 05:48 PM

whoa baby!...we gotta riot goan on!....too bad we can't all get along but, ya know, with email stuff not all our REAL feelings can be surfaced...so back off, amigo...we ALL love each other and we'll ALL back each others back when it comes down to it...back off!!!

woody with a view - 9-11-2009 at 05:49 PM

i'm with Diane on this one.

it would be a total waste of time......

David K - 9-11-2009 at 05:54 PM

Yah Diane... I am thinking we are just talking at each other here... as you may wish, why bother? I apologize if you story is true... but it is just so fantastic and I assure you Antonio would NEVER approve of such a thing. I emailed him your comments... Since the killings of two family members in 2006, we don't see Antonio on here very often.. Mexico is a dangerous place and one needs to be careful there... well anywhere for that matter.

The u2u was perhaps to help explain why I have no respect for government run programs anymore... personal experience. Why their attempt to destroy the best health care in the world is something that must be prevented... our lives depend on it.

DianaT - 9-11-2009 at 06:03 PM

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Originally posted by mulegemichael
whoa baby!...we gotta riot goan on!....too bad we can't all get along but, ya know, with email stuff not all our REAL feelings can be surfaced...so back off, amigo...we ALL love each other and we'll ALL back each others back when it comes down to it...back off!!!

Back off??? when someone accuses one of being a liar?? Yea, right.

It would be possible if others would just respect the opinions of others and refrain from calling them liars when they disagree.

Yes, we have rescued nomads and other baja travelers, and would cover the backs of most---but there are some, I would drive right by and not look back.

David, your last response---well, YOU are not worth it. So, of course to cover your tracks, you go political----easy to do when you are covering your own inadequate tracks.

OK, Woody, I am done with this topic----think I will go make up another story. :lol:

Diver - 9-11-2009 at 06:09 PM

OK, here's my story and I'm sticking to it.

Although I didn't say anything in my earlier post about our stranding, there were a few "issues" with our stay at Baja Cactus.

Other than one older woman who manned the desk occassionally, there was no-one that spoke English working there. The desk girls, one in particular were not only unhelpfull but insulting and rude at times.
It took 3 days to get a call through to Antonio and his suggestions were of no help at all. He offered much but knew nothing and could not get his empoyees to help us.

In contrast, when we told Mama's daughter of our plight (brain freeze on her name), she offered to loan us her car and got us phone numbers of tow trucks and stopped charging us for internet use - she was just plain NICE.

At Baja Cactus, the cleaning help was very pleasant but well-trained ? No.
Why would they insist on wrapping the face towels in the shoe shine cloth ?
No water 3 of 8 days of our stay.
No internet (as advertised) for our entire stay.
No hot water numerous times.

I will say that the pillows were wonderful and the place was generally pretty clean.
Is Baja Cactus a king of lodging ? No IMO.
Do other motels refill their used mini soap bottle ? No, it is considered unsanitary.
Do I trust Diane's observations ? You bet-cha !
Will I stay there again ? Not likely.
Will others stay there ? Sure but even DK rarely stays there anymore !! :lol:

BTW, thanks again to those who REALLY helped us when we were stranded;
Diane and John - who came all the way from SD to get my wife, kids and dogs.
FDT !!!!! Who arranged purchase and shipping for all my parts and found the tow truck.
Bajagringo ! Who delivered parts traveling over 100 miles out of his way.
TW !! Who was the friendly face that towed us off the road and checked on us all again.
Roberto !!!! Who towed my trailer to the campground and then my truck to the dealer.

And to those that truly offered;
Pompano
Natalie Ann
TioMiguel and Shari

(DK was at the hotel while we were but did not look us up.

)

BTW, I don't understand why the young lady has not responded to my kind offer to join her on her travels. Anyone else have any idea why she's not up for it ?? Or was she just a troll - in my mind ?? :lol:

DianaT - 9-11-2009 at 06:14 PM

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Originally posted by Diver

BTW, I don't understand why the young lady has not responded to my kind offer to join her on her travels. Anyone else have any idea why she's not up for it ?? Or was she just a troll - in my mind ?? :lol:

Think I need to talk with Mrs. Diver. :lol:

Diver - 9-11-2009 at 06:18 PM

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Originally posted by jdtrotter

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Think I need to talk with Mrs. Diver. :lol:

Mrs Diver who ?? :lol:

Besides, what could I realistically do with a 22 year old at my age ??
Dennis ? Anyone ?? Someone ? :saint:

woody with a view - 9-11-2009 at 06:29 PM

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Originally posted by David K
There is no pleasing you Diane... I am saying I am sorry if true...

the story about refilling tiny, SEALED bottles was so so fantastic. I would LOVE to have other Baja Cactus customer say there were full, (but broken seal) shampoo and lotion bottles in their room when they checked in... and didn't go to the office to notify the staff or get sealed bottles.

As I write this... and Elizabeth just read too... we are both shaking our heads that there would be ANY bit of truth to this tall tale... :rolleyes:

They come only in sealed bottles... use once and throw away. :rolleyes:

did someone say something? i thought i heard something! :light:

when you talk to yourself and get an answer, is that considered a conversation???

:?:

Diver - 9-11-2009 at 06:30 PM

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Originally posted by David K
They come only in sealed bottles... use once and throw away. :rolleyes:

Since you chose to make such a big deal about it DK, I remember that none of our shampoo bottles had seals at Baja Cactus. The little bottle are, in fact refillable as I have seen my 8 year old do this at home. Yes, refilling a used bottle, taken from the trash (dirty tissue and the like) would be gross !

Although I may or may not view this as a problem, the fact is that Diane is very honest and observant and I implicitly trust that her comments are true; I know the lady.
The fact that you, DK, accuse her of lieing is ridiculous and just your style.
Shampoo away DK !! :lol:

Diver - 9-11-2009 at 06:32 PM

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Originally posted by woody in ob
did someone say something? i thought i heard something! :light:

when you talk to yourself and get an answer, is that considered a conversation???

Woody, you crack me up !! :lol:

Wait, am I talking to myself ?

DENNIS - 9-11-2009 at 06:33 PM

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Originally posted by Diver
Think I need to talk with Mrs. Diver. :lol:

Besides, what could I realistically do with a 22 year old at my age ??
Dennis ? Anyone ?? Someone ? :saint:

Where's professor Fishbuck when you need him. :tumble:

Diver - 9-11-2009 at 06:41 PM

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Originally posted by David K
What a big Baby! I DIDN'T KNOW YOU WERE THERE! We pulled in, the staff came out and told us no rooms and to go to Turista Motel. We weren't there 5 minutes even... I told you this before Diver... get over it... I barely got to the steps of the lobby when they greeted me.

Antonio checks in daily.. multiple times... We get him on the phone within 5 minutes of arriving to say hi if he isn't there. How is it you couldn't ask to talk to him? The Internet is WiFi and there is a PC in the lobby in the desk... did you ask?

We stay there every time, unless full or no water... and the water issue is the town's, not the motel's.

You whiners are something...

Bye!

And I thank you for the lovely childish name calling.
Now you are accusing me of lying also ?

The comment about you not looking us up was just for effect; gotcha !
I would not have wanted you to look us up anyway.
Being stranded was better !

The staff could not or refused to contact Antonio.
The wifi and any other connection was not operating for the entire week - per the desk staff !
We tried and no, we are NOT novices at this.
And Baja Cactus has it's own water tank; they just don't monitor it enogh to know when it's going dry !
Oh, and by the way, the heat and AC didn't work in our romm or any others when we were there.
I told my story and I'm sticking to it.

If you don't like it, too bad.
It's all the truth; for others to take or leave as they wish.
.

grmpb - 9-11-2009 at 06:54 PM

:?:

and now back to advise for first time driver please!

it's a TOTAL waste of time

woody with a view - 9-11-2009 at 06:56 PM

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Originally posted by grmpb
:?:

and now back to advise for first time driver please!

all ears waiting for Prof. Fishbuck, now!!!

Diver - 9-11-2009 at 07:12 PM

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Originally posted by woody in ob

all ears waiting for Prof. Fishbuck, now!!!

Has anyone else noticed that this young lady has not responded to my generous offer.....
AND that Fishbuck has been mysteriously absent from the site for a few days......
Darned but that guy works fast !! :lol:

DENNIS - 9-11-2009 at 07:31 PM

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Originally posted by Diver
Has anyone else noticed that this young lady has not responded to my generous offer.....
AND that Fishbuck has been mysteriously absent from the site for a few days......
Darned but that guy works fast !! :lol:

Oh Lord. He'll have her moonlighting at Anthony's.

woody with a view - 9-11-2009 at 08:37 PM

the thought of some banditos, i mean AMIGOS coming bumper to bumper with our hero "out there" on a single track brings a.......

:biggrin:

it is a total waste of time........................

:!:

SOTCS, stay on the cortez side! :!:

stimbo - 9-11-2009 at 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by David K

You whiners are something...

Bye!

Promise?

To Refill or not to Refill...?

BajaCactus - 9-12-2009 at 01:56 AM

Hello my friends,

First of all, let me thank DavidK, for letting me know about the comments being posted on this thread about BajaCactus... these kind of observations are very important for me... David is right, living so far from El Rosario makes it very difficult to keep track of every little detail in the daily operations of either the Gas Station and the Motel... I make my best effort, but perhaps it is not enough.

Now, getting to business... refilling the bottles of amenities... nnnnoooo... of course not... I do not know about the politics of other motels, but definitely we HAVE NOT never, ever, authorized this kind of activities at BajaCactus. Each and everyone of the bottles of shampoo, cream and everything else is place brand new, out of the box, every time a room is clean and prepared for the next guest... this is how we have it established, both economically and in the logistics of our inventories.

Diane, I do not know what you saw at our Motel, but it was definitely not a "refill operation" from our part. Every bottle left in the rooms after the guests leaves, is recollected and sent back to our Tijuana office... and only if those are not left in the trash... why?... our US supplier takes them back for recycling, and gives us a small credit on new orders. Every shipment comes in new, sealed boxes, as well as the bottles themselves... and then taken directly to BajaCactus.

Regarding the Internet... you are right Diane... my apologies to you and every nomad that has contacted me about this issue... I must admit this problem was a mistake on my part... I made the wrong choice about the equipment that distributes the LAN/WiFi signal... it did not worked continuously and crashed a lot... and to make things worst, in general, the human resource in El Rosario has a very low level of education, my staff comes from that pool, therefore, it is quite difficult for them to grasp the basics of networking, so, whenever someone approached them for assistance regarding this issue, their answer is/was "it does not work, go next door"... even though it was working, so they get rid of the "problem" quickly.

Three weeks ago, I finally replaced the equipment, and since then, it has been working flawlessly... about my staff, I am working on it... slowly, but I am working on it.

About the Gas Station restrooms... I agree... they are old and not much can be done with them, other than a complete renovation... We still have a full time employee hired only to attend the restrooms, but even though they are clean, they do not look as sharp as they should... We already have approved plans and blueprints by Pemex to build new ones (it took them 2 years to approved those plans), but now we do not have the economical resources to build them.

I have been working on remodeling the actual ones... I believe we will be able to accomplish this within the next few months.

Diane, I am sorry for not answering your U2U, but for several months now, when I have time to browse this board, I do so not logged in, therefore I do not see the U2U's... but I will answer yours as soon as I finish typing this words... anyway, you can all always find me at my personal email info*at*bajacactus.com

Now... Diver... I am deeply sorry for your bad experience in Baja, and specially if you felt unattended while staying at BajaCactus throughout your crisis... I was personally in Guadalajara the whole week this happened, and the couple of times I spoke with you over the phone, I did so from there... the only way I could personally helped you back then, was for me to fly back to Tijuana and drive to El Rosario... therefore I had to rely on my staff, and sometimes that is difficult, specially if they do not speak English.

And speaking of languages... we have to remember that when you travel to Mexico, and Baja is a part of it, you are in a foreign country, and you could not expect the locals to speak your language... when I go to the States, I do not expect everyone to speak Spanish... I respectfully address everyone in English, if they happen to speak my language, excellent, if not I understand they have no obligation to do so.

Now... specifically in El Rosario... English spoken personal is really quite difficult to come by... we do have Carmen (the old lady, who happens to be 45 years, and works six days out of seven, from 4:00pm to 12:00pm)... and we recently hired a new guy, who also is very fluent in English, working from 7:00am to 3:00pm (not in the front desk though, but he is around)... we always try to hire anyone in town who speaks English, but they are really scarce.

You spoke about "the rude"... at the time, she had her little sister very ill with cancer, and she was, in a big part, economically responsible for her, that had her very stressed out, you did told me over the phone about her, buy I did not find it in my heart to fire her at that time... my personal apologies if she mistreated you... unfortunately, sometimes, life throw us these kind of problems, and we have to deal with them, it could happen to anyone...I know this is not an excuse, but as humans, we must learn "to be humans"... we have to understand that even though we might have problems, sometimes, our fellow humans are also suffering... we are not robots... nevertheless, she does not work with us anymore.

Trained staff... everyone of the ladies who work at BajaCactus are housewives... they do not live in a big city with specialized schools in lodging or tourism... we are not even a ten story, five star Hotel... we are, almost literally, in the middle of nowhere... the only way to properly train them, is to bring them all to either Ensenada or Tijuana... or hire an specialist from the city to go there... quite costly... I am just happy if they do a nice cleaning job... nevertheless... I will take your comment under advice, and try to bring them some more knowledge into how to properly fold the towels and placement of the amenities... it could enhance the looks of the room.

Water... we do have a 80,000 lts storage capacity, which, with the Gas Station and the Motel fully operational, lasts us around three days... and we do monitor them daily... however, again, we are in a small rural town, let us not forget this... there are no water utilities here... we rely, as everyone in town does, from a local well, run by the community... they do not have the huge resources of the government, so, whenever something goes wrong with that water pumping/distribution system... that is it... there is nothing to be done but wait for the people to get organized and fix it... which could take one day or a few weeks.

Even so, when this has happened, we always try to hire a local water truck (if they are available), who usually sell 3,000 lts for 50 Dlls... just make the math and you will know how much it will cost us to have a 20,000+ lts daily supply... when we need these services, we only buy enough for the motel... and only for the night.

A/C in the rooms... also, I agree... we have had this problem for quite a while now... again, our location makes it quite difficult to try and bring top of the class services for our guests... either the help is not available or is quite expensive. I also have received several comments from fellow nomads about this.

On this issue... it just so happens, that yesterday (Sept. 10), I closed a deal with a company from Ensenada, and they promised me to be in El Rosario next Wednesday (Sept. 16th) to finally fixed all my A/C's units.

As you all can see... we are not blind to your comments... on the contrary, we... I, take them very seriously, for me, they are a very important feedback, that allows me to correct the way... it may take me a while... but I try to fix all the problems that, throughout your observations, I become aware of.

I hope I have not offended anyone with my remarks... however, I believe that we all must understand that El Rosario is not San Diego or any other major city from the first world... I really wish I could offer all you top of the class, first grade Vegas Style Resort services... but we are not in Vegas... we are in El Rosario... we have to work with what we have at hand... the only thing we can promise, is to do our best effort to try and have the nicest place, out of what our location has to offer.

El Rosario is a very tiny, small town, forgotten in the mists of time, located in a very particular location in Baja, which makes it very difficult to keep up... is it impossible?... no... I say no... I say it is just interesting!!!

A big hug to all of you my friends!!!

:bounce:

Antonio Munoz
BajaCactus

[Edited on 9-13-2009 by BajaCactus]

mulegemichael - 9-12-2009 at 04:41 AM

Antonio....very, very cool that you addressed these issues...

Diver - 9-12-2009 at 04:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BajaCactus
Hello my friends,

First of all, let me thank DavidK, for letting me know about the comments being posted on this thread about BajaCactus... these kind of observations are very important for me... David is right, living so far from El Rosario makes it very difficult to keep track of every little detail in the daily operations of either the Gas Station and the Motel... I make my best effort, but perhaps it is not enough.

PROBABLY NOT.

Now, getting to business... refilling the bottles of amenities... nnnnoooo... of course not... I do not know about the politics of other motels, but definitely we HAVE NOT never, ever, authorized this kind of activities at BajaCactus. Each and everyone of the bottles of shampoo, cream and everything else is place brand new, out of the box, every time a room is clean and prepared for the next guest... this is how we have it established, both economically and in the logistics of our inventories.

NOT AUTHORIED ? BUT YOU ARE RARELY THERE AND HAVE LITTLE CONTROL OVER YOUR EMPLOYEES.

Diane, I do not know what you saw at our Motel, but it was definitely not a "refill operation" from our part. Every bottle left in the rooms after the guests leaves, is recollected and sent back to our Tijuana office... and only if those are not left in the trash... why?... our US supplier takes them back for recycling, and gives us a small credit on new orders. Every shipment comes in new, sealed boxes, as well as the bottles themselves... and then taken directly to BajaCactus.

Regarding the Internet... you are right Diane... my apologies to you and every nomad that has contacted me about this issue... I must admit this problem was a mistake on my part... I made the wrong choice about the equipment that distributes the LAN/WiFi signal... it did not worked continuously and crashed a lot... and to make things worst, in general, the human resource in El Rosario has a very low level of education, my staff comes from that pool, therefore, it is quite difficult for them to grasp the basics of networking, so, whenever someone approached them for assistance regarding this issue, their answer is "it does not work, go next door"... even though it was working, so they get rid of the "problem" quickly.

THIS HAS TAKEN YOU OVER 1 YEAR TO RESOLVE WHILE ADVERTISING INTERNET ACCESS TO YOUR PATRONS.

Three weeks ago, I finally replaced the equipment, and since then, it has been working flawlessly... about my staff, I am working on it... slowly, but I am working on it.

About the Gas Station restrooms... I agree... they are old and not much can be done with them, other than a complete renovation ... We already have approved plans and blueprints by Pemex to build new ones (it took them 2 years to approved those plans), but now we do not have the economical resources to build them.

I have been working on remodeling the actual ones... I believe we will be able to accomplish this within the next few months.

HEARD THIS OVER A YEAR AGO.

Diane, I am sorry for not answering your U2U, but for several months now, when I have time to browse this board, I do so not logged in, therefore I do not see the U2U's... but I will answer yours as soon as I finish typing this words... anyway, you can all always find me at my personal email info*at*bajacactus.com

Now... Diver... I am deeply sorry for your bad experience in Baja, and specially if you felt unattended while staying at BajaCactus throughout your crisis... I was personally in Guadalajara the whole week this happened, and the couple of times I spoke with you over the phone, I did so from there... the only way I could personally helped you back then, was for me to fly back to Tijuana and drive to El Rosario... therefore I had to rely on my staff, and sometimes that is difficult, specially if they do not speak English.

YES, IT IS DIFFICULT TO RELY ON YOUR STAFF !
WHILE WE WERE THERE, MOST OF THE PARKING LOT LIGHTS WERE BURNT OUT. I FIXED THE LAUNDRY LINES AND FENCING MYSELF IN 10 MINUTES AFTER SEEING THEM UNWORKEABLE FOR A WEEK. YOUR PEOPLE DON'T DO MUCH TO HELP YOU.

And speaking of languages... we have to remember that when you travel to Mexico, and Baja is a part of it, you are in a foreign country, and you could not expect the locals to speak your language... when I go to the States, I do not expect everyone to speak Spanish... I respectfully address everyone in English, if they happen to speak my language, excellent, if not I understand they have no obligation to do so.

YOU HAVE OFTEN CLAINED THAT THERE IS ALWAYS SOMEONE THERE THAT SPEAKS ENGLISH. I DO NOT EXPECT ALL FOLKS TO SPEAK ENGLISH - MY SPANISH IS OK. YOUR PEOPLE JUST DID NOT WANT TO HELP.
I TOLD YOU ABOUT THEIR ACTIONS EARLIER.

Now... specifically in El Rosario... English spoken personal is really quite difficult to come by... we do have Carmen (the old lady, who happens to be 45 years, and works six days out of seven, from 4:00pm to 12:00pm)... and we recently hired a new man, who also is very fluent in English, working from 7:00am to 3:00pm (not in the front desk though, but he is around)... we always try to hire anyone in town who speaks English, but they are really scarce.T

HERE ARE MANY FOLKS THAT SPEAK ENGLISH IN TOWN INCLUDING ROLE ( MAMA'S DAUGHTER) NEXT DOOR.

I SAID OLDER, NOT OLD (OLDER THAN THE REST OF THE DESK GIRLS). CARMEN WAS VERY NICE BUT WE ASKED WHEN SHE WAS COMING IN AND THE REST OF THE STAFF HAD NO IDEA.

You spoke about "the rude" one... at the time, she had a sister very ill with cancer, and that had her very stressed, my personal apologies if she mistreated you... unfortunately, sometimes, life throw us these kind of problems, and we have to deal with them, it could happen to anyone...I know this is not an excuse, but as humans, we must learn "to be humans"... we have to understand that even though we might have problems, sometimes, our fellow humans are also suffering... we are not robots... nevertheless, she does not work with us anymore.

IT IS AN ATTEMPT AT AN EXCUSE - YOU COULD HAVE REMOVED HER FROM THE DESK ON THE DAY THAT I INFORMED YOU OF HER RUDE REMARKS. SHE REMIANED AT THE DESK AND ACTING RUDE FOR OUR ENTIRE STAY.

Trained staff... everyone of the ladies who work at BajaCactus are housewives... they do not live in a big city with specialized schools in lodging or tourism... we are not even a ten story, five star Hotel... we are, almost literally, in the middle of nowhere... the only way to properly train them, is to bring them all to either Ensenada or Tijuana... or hire an specialist from the city to go there... quite costly... I am just happy if they do a nice cleaning job... nevertheless... I will take your comment under advice, and try to bring them some more knowledge into how to properly fold the towels and placement of the amenities... it could enhance the looks of the room.

THE ROOM LOOK FINE - DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE CHEMICALS IN THE SHOE-SHINE RAG THAT SHOULD NOT GO ON YOUR FACE ? NONE OF THESE LADIES SEEMED STUPID - THEY HAVE JUST NEVER BEEN TRAINED PROPERLY.

Water... we do have a 80,000 lts storage capacity, which, with the Gas Station and the Motel fully operational, lasts us around three days... and we do monitor them daily... however, again, we are in a small rural town, let us not forget this... there are no water utilities here... we rely, as everyone in town does, from a local well, run by the community... they do not have the huge resources of the government, so, whenever something goes wrong with that water pumping/distribution system... that is it... there is nothing to be done but wait for the people to get organized and fix it... which could take one day or a few weeks.

AFTER THE TANK HAS RUN DRY FOR A FEW HOURS, WATER TRUCKS START FILLING IT. IF SOMEONE MONITORED THE WATER LEVEL, THIS COULD HAPPEN BEFORE THE TANK IS EMPTY; NOT AFTER.

Even so, when this has happened, we always try to hire a local water truck (if they are available), who usually sell 3,000 lts for 50 Dlls... just make the math and you will know how much it will cost us to have a 20,000+ lts daily supply... when we need these services, we only buy enough for the motel... and only for the night.

A/C in the rooms... also, I agree... we have had this problem for quite a while now... again, our location makes it quite difficult to try and bring top of the class services for our guests... either the help is not available or is quite expensive. I also have received several comments from fellow nomads about this.

AND NO DISCOUNT FOR THE LACK OF SERVICES THAT ARE CLAIMED ? AC/HEAT/INTERNET .... SOUNDS LIKE A SHAM TO ME !

On this issue... it just so happens, that yesterday (Sept. 10), I closed a deal with a company from Ensenada, and they promised me to be in El Rosario next Wednesday (Sept. 16th) to finally fixed all my A/C's units.

GOOD LUCK WITH THAT - I DO NOT THINK THERE IS SUFFICIENT WIRING IN THE ROOMS TO RUN THEM. THEY ARE FED WITH LAMP CORDS !

As you all can see... we are not blind to your comments... on the contrary, we... I, take them very seriously, for me, they are a very important feedback, that allows me to correct the way... it may take me a while... but I try to fix all the problems that, throughout your observations, I become aware of.

I hope I have not offended anyone with my remarks... however, I believe that we all must understand that El Rosario is not San Diego or any other major city from the first world... I really wish I could offer all you top of the class, first grade Vegas Style Resort services... but we are not in Vegas... we are in El Rosario... we have to work with what we have at hand... the only thing we can promise, is to do our best effort to try and have the nicest place, out of what our location has to offer.

NO ONE HAS SAID THEY ARE LOOKING FOR VEGAS STYLE SERVICES - ONLY FOR YOU TO PROVIDE WHAT YOU CLAIM AND WITH A LITTLE COURTESY.

YOU HAVE MADE GREAT CLAIMS AND BLAME YOUR STAFF OR BAJA FOR YOUR TROUBLES.
WHY NOT GO SPEND SOME TIME THERE AND GET THINGS FIXED - NO MORE EXCUSES.

Antonio Munoz
BajaCactus

[Edited on 9-12-2009 by Diver]

David K - 9-12-2009 at 06:47 AM

There you have it friends... just as I suspected.

Diver, shame shame ... It's like it was your first trip to Baja and you expected the Ritz Carlton... and how much is a room at Baja Cactus... $35? Now you want a discount? I am NOT saying you got less than advertised, but I am saying that in Baja you need to be flexible and understand there are situations that don't get resolved in the speed and manner usually found in big city US hotels.

I think that Antonio has done a fantastic job with the resources available to him...

DENNIS - 9-12-2009 at 07:56 AM

OK...Is everybody happy? Good. Now we can get back to some serious beer drinkin'.
Priorities, folks...priorities.

woody with a view - 9-12-2009 at 07:59 AM

everyone is entitled to their own opinions....

Diver - 9-12-2009 at 08:24 AM

DK; the sole judge of fantasy - in his own mind.
Of course what you say is the truth David - the rest of us are liers.
Carry on Diet Boy ...... :biggrin:

I'd say shame on you for continually defending when you have NO facts.
My story is the truth and I'm still sticking to it.

Back to topic;
Where is that Fishbuck anyway ??
Oh little lady, where are you ?
I'm all packed ...... need to get to Baja - away from DK (since he is seldom in Baja.)
Before he responds as I know he will;
I have spent over 55 months in Baja over the past 30 years - how about you ?

Diver - 9-12-2009 at 08:41 AM

To futher clarify because I know how hard it is to get anything into your thick skull;

I do not expect fancy or US style accomodations in Baja.
I have been going there for a very long time and think I understand the way things are, better than you.

What I do expect;
Not to be told that Internet works when it doesn't
Not to be told the rooms have heat and AC when they don't.
Not to be told the hotel has it's own water - never goes out, when it does.
Not to be told that the parking area gate is locked with security lights inside when the bulbs are out and they don't even shut the door most nights - never lock it.
Not to be told that there is always someone there who speaks english when there isn't.
Not to be told there is always hot water when there is not.
Not to be told "you can reach me anytime" and then get no response for 3 days.
NOT to be subject to RUDE behavior from the front desk clerk, complain to Antonio and then have to deal with her rudeness for another 5 days !

I have stayed in much more basic than the Baja Cactus and enjoyed my stays just fine.
Those folks may have offered less but they did not mis-represent their offerings.

Anonio seems to be a very capable and nice young man.
A good hotel owner would take my comments as constructive criticism and respoond as he has, then do something about the issues.
I believe Antonio will address these issues in time and to the best of his (and staff's) abilities.
.

[Edited on 9-12-2009 by Diver]

DianaT - 9-12-2009 at 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by David K
Of course they are entitled, Woody... An opinion should be made of facts and not fantasy, however. I try very hard to post facts and flush out fantasy... I knew that the refilling of the tiny bottles to put back in rooms was fantasy... Refill them from what, anyway? :rolleyes:

Perhaps she only saw them collecting the bottles that they send back for recycling and assumed they were going to refill them? That assumption was just gross, however... and hurtful to Antonio's efforts and hospitality.

Amazing---you were not there, but you still call me a liar, just amazing. You do live in your own little world.

But from the U2U you sent me, I now know how truly sick you are----you really need help, serious help. I actually feel sorry for you-----

So just continue on David, call me a liar and shame others---you are one sick puppy.

Yes, Dennis, back to topic, sorry for the interruption----

Diane

[Edited on 9-12-2009 by jdtrotter]

DianaT - 9-12-2009 at 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by mulegemichael
Antonio....very, very cool that you addressed these issues...

Yes, he always does. There have been other issues in the past, and he addresses them the best he can----

even if the truly sick one thinks that others are lying.

Skipjack Joe - 9-12-2009 at 10:18 AM

Antonio,

Since you are on the net and reading this thread I thought I would add a problem I had when staying at your motel.

The shower handle on the hot water did not work. That is, the grooves had worn off and the handle merely spun around, not letting you turn it on or off. The result was that we had to take a shower with cold water.

This was in the room closest to the highway of the older section of the motel. The new ones were all full when we showed up. Mrs. Diver got the last room, grrrrrrrrrr. (just kidding).

You may want to take care of that also.

Perhaps I should tell you this with a U2U and not embarass you any further, but since there is a list already, and it it helpful to know these things, I decided to write.

All in all, however, there is no motel in baja that is perfect so I take all of these problems as really being typical. It just irks people when DK keeps reiterating that they don't exist and that people lie about them.

Diet boy, eh? haven't heard that one before.

DENNIS - 9-12-2009 at 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Skipjack Joe

The shower handle on the hot water did not work. That is, the grooves had worn off and the handle merely spun around, not letting you turn it on or off. The result was that we had to take a shower with cold water.

There you have it, folks. Never Never rent a room in Baja without bringing your Vice Grips.

Now...back to that beer cooler.......

David K - 9-12-2009 at 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by jdtrotter

Quote:

Wow, you are just scary with this spin... I u2u'd you about my PERSONAL dealings with the local school system regarding an IEP (as you seemed to think I didn't know what ADD is) that was from another thread... I was hoping that as a teacher, you would see where I was coming from... and if you actually read my u2u, you will see that I said he had good teachers.

Please stop coming in AFTER I post something to someone else with a spin on my reply (this is what you did in this thread re. Baja Cactus)... You made a FALSE obeservation in the response to MY reply... and Yes, I will correct any false statements, mistakes or errors... accidental or on purpose made by me, you, anyone. Baja Nomads deserve no less!

I also apologized, if you were right... YOU WERE WRONG (about the refilling).

I will accept YOUR apology now... but, I am guessing that will be a cold day in he** ... Antonio is the one to get an apology more than I.

[Edited on 9-12-2009 by David K]

Diver - 9-12-2009 at 10:53 AM

DK,

You have embarrased yourself enough.

Isn't it time for you to post some more old photos and maps of Baja that we have seen 100 times ?

Or to get back on topic ?

She's g.o.n.e.... she's gone ..... (from the song) ......
Or should that be .... she's just 17 ...... ?
Or .... I was trolling along one day .... in the merry month of .... ?
I feel like singing !!
Wanna sing along, Fishbuck, wherever you are ?? :rolleyes:

Bajahowodd - 9-12-2009 at 11:01 AM

Curious that while all the complaining was going on, Antonio supposedly didn't bother to get involved until his little buddy twisted his arm. That being said, as I have gone on record earlier as not a big fan of the town, I do wish to defend Antonio. He built an outstanding physical plant in El Rosario, the likes of which had never been seen in that part of the country. I think too many people started to believe it was the local branch of Ritz- Carlton. I've been amazed, over the years to see folks posting here and going out of their way to ensure they spent the night there. Many of the things Antonio mentions are true. It IS El Rosario. There will obviously be challenges with respect to supplies and resources. Don't let the marble and glass fool you. You're in El Rosario. I've spent twice as much and more to stay the night in other Baja towns. If you don't think you get your money's worth, stop staying there. I think it is well worth what is charged, warts and all. I just choose not to stay there.

DENNIS - 9-12-2009 at 11:16 AM

I hope that first-time driver is writing all this down. BajaNomad strikes again with unselfish trip advice and best wishes for a safe journey. When can we expect the first print edition?

OK...I'm gonna throat all these frosty beers myself. Won't be the first time, nor the last.

By the way....When it gets down to Antonio washing and drying the toilet paper, please give me advance warning. There's only so much I can take. :lol:

woody with a view - 9-12-2009 at 11:16 AM

well said. if you don't like it don't stay. Antonio is a good man. who here is perfect?

we do like it as it's very refreshing to have the little luxuries they provide, after spending 5-10 days in the bush, on the way home. also, our friends at La Mijita are just down the road for lunch/dinner and conversation.

ER is a funky frontier town - that's the charm of the place. look, up ahead there's a sign that says, "last chance, everything!" at least it's the last chance for "stuff" where we go.

if you are into the cabo region i would guess ER is not to your liking, and that's perfectly fine, too!

[Edited on 9-12-2009 by woody in ob]

[Edited on 9-12-2009 by woody in ob]

DianaT - 9-12-2009 at 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by woody in ob
well said. if you don't like it don't stay. Antonio is a good man. who here is perfect?

we do like it as it's very refreshing to have the little luxuries they provide, after spending 5-10 in the bush, on the way home. also, our friends at La Mijita are just down the road for lunch/dinner and conversation.

ER is a funky frontier town - that's the charm of the place. look, up ahead there's a sign that says, "last chance, everything!" at least it's the last chance for "stuff" where we go.

if you are into the cabo region i would guess ER is not to your liking, and that's perfectly fine, too!

[Edited on 9-12-2009 by woody in ob]

Woody, not everyone who finds El Rosario not to be their favorite place is into Cabo. El Rosario, in my book, is OK---just really prefer the small towns in Baja Sur---personal choice. Shoot, we even prefer Guerrero Negro which is a town that is on the bottom of the list for many Baja travelers. None of this is based on any facts at all, or on personal attitude---just personal feelings, opinions, vibes, etc.

There are lots of people who really like El Rosario for their own personal reasons, and I respect that. Different strokes---and while Cabo is not my preference, it is Baja, just a different part of Baja, and as you said, it really is OK if that is someone's preference. It does not mean they like Baja any more or less than others.

If we decide to stop in El Rosario, Baja Cactus is still on our list of where we might stay----we have had other problems there, but most we just write off as it being Baja---it is what it is. It is one of the better hotels along the way----absentee ownership is always with problems regardless of where the establishment is located.

First time driver? Well, as you said you are not a stranger to Baja, just to driving, so I am sure you already have some preferences which may or may not change---have fun.

AND, if a man shows up with a great big smile who says, Hello, My name is Diver----step on the gas and move on, quickly.
:lol:

Then again, maybe you should not listen to my suggestion as I am the scary liar----Dang, Diver, you might get a ride afterall.

Diane

[Edited on 9-12-2009 by jdtrotter]

Bajahowodd - 9-12-2009 at 11:59 AM

Interesting that you should mention Guerrero Negro, Diane. That town has grown on me over the years. And I do think it's a "vibe" thing. Many years ago, when we first went to see the whales, we had an awful experience with both food and lodging. I wondered why the town, with a fairly steady revenue stream what with the payroll at the salt facility and the seasonal whale crowd, seemed so lacking in amenities. Face it. Location-wise, it is not what one could call situated in a beautiful setting. In the past few years, there have been additional accomodations built, such as Caracoles, and Cowboy, and some new, good restaurants. As an aside, the architect for the Cowboy should get kudos. Anyway, over the years, I came to realize how warm and welcoming the people of GN are. That, in my opinion, is a major factor in the success of a tourist dependent town.

grmpb - 9-12-2009 at 12:14 PM

just talked to my budy vince mcmahon of the wwe, he's interested in signing sumayus up! :lol:

DENNIS - 9-12-2009 at 12:21 PM

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Originally posted by grmpb
just talked to my budy vince mcmahon of the wwe, he's interested in signing sumayus up! :lol:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vince_McMahon

lovebahia22 - 9-12-2009 at 01:16 PM

Thanks for all the wonderful advice both on and off topic. I thought i should finally respond to a couple of questions...I'm driving to bahia de los angeles, i will not be alone i'm going with a group of friends so im not too concerned. but again thanks a million!

woody with a view - 9-12-2009 at 01:21 PM

give us a report with fotos when you return....

Bajahowodd - 9-12-2009 at 01:22 PM

:?:

shari - 9-12-2009 at 01:44 PM

OMG....I hadnt seen this thread for a few days..whoa nelly...what an enlightening ordeal....sorry you had to go through it lovebahia...

but I just want to come clean about one thing so I wont be labeled DISHONEST...I admit to having refilled a few shampoo bottles from time to time when I didnt have any new ones...cant get em around these parts....but never ever thought I was being dishonest...they said the RITZ on them...or Sheraton or something...the seal is gone...guess I need to post a little sign saying ...these bottles have been refilled...shampoo at your own risk!
Dont ya just love those houses where there are signs on everything!!!

I now have some new shampoos, conditioners but still fill the liquid handsoap containers...I'm so naughty.

Jeepers, the issues at Baja Cactus sure sound familiar...I can really sympathise with Antonio...we are onsight and this stuff still happens.

I really liked Antonios gracious response...and LOVE Baja Cactus...

woody with a view - 9-12-2009 at 01:54 PM

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Originally posted by shari
OMG....I hadnt seen this thread for a few days..whoa nelly...what an enlightening ordeal....sorry you had to go through it lovebahia...

but I just want to come clean about one thing so I wont be labeled DISHONEST...I admit to having refilled a few shampoo bottles from time to time when I didnt have any new ones...cant get em around these parts....but never ever thought I was being dishonest...they said the RITZ on them...or Sheraton or something...the seal is gone...guess I need to post a little sign saying ...these bottles have been refilled...shampoo at your own risk!
Dont ya just love those houses where there are signs on everything!!!

I now have some new shampoos, conditioners but still fill the liquid handsoap containers...I'm so naughty.

Jeepers, the issues at Baja Cactus sure sound familiar...I can really sympathise with Antonio...we are onsight and this stuff still happens.

I really liked Antonios gracious response...and LOVE Baja Cactus...

since soap and shampoo are cleaning agents i don't get the big deal. is it kooties or something?

Bajahowodd - 9-12-2009 at 02:02 PM

Hijacks. Off-topic. Just seems that some of the more entertaining threads are those that wander.

gnukid - 9-12-2009 at 02:24 PM

I can't lie, I really enjoyed staying at Baja Cactus recently. There really isn't another place like it that is so affordable for people traveling who desperately need rest. The clerk made me feel like family. And Mama Espinosas was good too, we made a group table for anyone who wanted to join and had a nice dinner with new friends.

The next night south we stayed at Malarmo (I think) in GN, that was very nice too, the restaurant was great and it felt safe.

I think how much you enjoy a simple room may depend on how tired you are and needing a place to stay versus being broken down and wanting to leave? Just a thought.

mtgoat666 - 9-12-2009 at 02:43 PM

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... and Yes, I will correct any false statements, mistakes or errors... accidental or on purpose made by me, you, anyone.

yeah, right. dk, perhaps your problem is your need to "correct" everyone elses facts.

now, as far as hotels go,... i find baja cactus to be an OK motel, but if you want a hotel, you should go to a hotel and not a motel. baja cactus and the town is kind of a truck stop ambiance. i prefer to car camp in catavina desert when passing thru, better than a motel room.

Bajahowodd - 9-12-2009 at 04:15 PM

gnukid- Whoa! I am stunned that you would refer to feeling safe as a reason to eat at Malarrimo. It's been there for decades. Guerrero Negro is a VERY safe town. Aside from the immediate border region, wazzup about feeling safe? If I had a single complaint about Malarrimo, it would be, that unlike most of Mexico, they tend to rush you through dinner. Like they've got a convention coming in later? Food is usually quite good. And there are a few other restaurants in town who do as well or better. If anything, I think Malarrimo sits on its laurels as having been there the longest, and thinks it caters to tourists better than anyone else.

DENNIS - 9-12-2009 at 04:58 PM

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Originally posted by gnukid
I can't lie, I really enjoyed staying at Baja Cactus

Well, what more do you people need to hear?

DENNIS - 9-12-2009 at 05:02 PM

Jeeeezo....This thread has become an A-Hole magnet.

Barry A. - 9-12-2009 at 06:22 PM

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Originally posted by DENNIS
Jeeeezo....This thread has become an A-Hole magnet.

----------I love it when you say "Jeeeeeezo"-----what a great word------so descriptive!!! :spingrin:

Barry

gnukid - 9-12-2009 at 06:38 PM

My comments were directed to the original poster, Lovebahia22 who I thought might appreciate a list of very affordable places to stay on the way with some idea of safe parking, internet etc... So yes, Malarrimo $35/for two people last time, I enjoyed a relaxing dinner there for about 5-6 hours and the staff joined me until they had to hit the hay at 11pm, they arrive again at 6 or 7am so I can imagine they might to close the kitchen at some point. Very nice bar and internet signal.

So to add to that, I highly recommend not driving too long each day and not too early or too late past dark. And if you do choose a motel ask for room options and go look to be sure, they often have ranges of prices/rooms if you ask.

One more restaurant I like is in Bomfil which is a trucker pull out town just north of Santa Rosalia, on the left mid town (there are only about 5-7 buildings there), there is a restaurant though I don't recall the name other Bomfil Restaurant, the food is very good and reasonably priced. I always stop and have a very nice time. There are also 24 hour cafes with bathrooms, just knock on the door. Rooms for rent too, the sound of running motors will put you to sleep after a margarita.

See you at the beach lovebahia22!

p.s. Haharhar Dennis I guess you can imagine it takes me awhile to head south with so many great restaurants! Salut! Har-har harumph. errrr%$#@!

DENNIS - 9-12-2009 at 06:52 PM

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Originally posted by Barry A.

----------I love it when you say "Jeeeeeezo"-----what a great word------so descriptive!!! :spingrin:

Barry

Thanks, Barry. You may already know I did a doctoral thesis on the word..it's inception in the vernacular and subsequent metamorphosis to common usage. The premise of my study was, the more EEEEs used in the exclamation, the more adamant the speaker.
Sooooooooooooo, there you are.
Thanks for your commentttttttttttt.

Byyy the wayyyy, I'm working on other, related ideasssssss. I'll keeeeeeeep you posteddddddd.

Barry A. - 9-12-2009 at 10:08 PM

Wowwwww, Dennis, that isssss impressive!!!! Always looking forward to being kept in the looooooooooop.

Barry

burnrope - 9-15-2009 at 11:21 AM

I just read all off the posts on this thread. I was expecting old farts giving a twenty something advice about Baja( I love the single woman asking about Baja threads that seems to pop up every 6 months or so.) What a bunch of whiners. Re-filled shampoo bottles in Baja, I've yet to see a shampoo bottle in any of the places I've stayed at, usually it's a bar of Rosa Venus and a book of matches with a German Shepard on the cover. What do you expect from a country that doesn't even have the technology to be be able to flush your TP instead of placing it in a waste basket by the toilet. Actually I've used this to judge how good a Mexican restaurant is in the US. If there's a buch of skid marked TP in the wastebasket it usually serves good food. I'm a bit of a leftie, but I think DK is a real asset to this site. I've learned more about Baja from his postings than anyone else's.

Bajahowodd - 9-15-2009 at 11:40 AM

If a Mexican restaurant in the US has a bunch of skid-marked TP in the waste basket, it usually also has a dirty remnant bar of soap on the sink, no hot water, and no paper towels. Bon appetit!

burnrope - 9-15-2009 at 11:54 AM

I live dirty to keep up my resistance, to a point. On a dirt bke trip to Mulge a local buddy of ours took us out to see some cave paintings. A stream flowed through the canyon he took us to, there was a lot of cattle in itand it smelled like it too. He started drinking water from the stream and told us how good it was. We all held up the tubes from our Camelbaks and said "That's okay."
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Bajahowodd - 9-15-2009 at 12:13 PM

Cypress - 9-15-2009 at 01:12 PM

burnrope, Yea, it's one of those drinking poop things, "Beaver Fever" or what ever else deficates in the water. All boils down to slurping up some E.coli. It'll turn your stomach into a war zone. :lol:

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