vandenberg - 10-29-2009 at 01:28 PM
For anyone interested.
There are free flu shots available here in Loreto.
At the new hospital on the highway, at medicina preventiva, all you have to do is ask. You'll get a receipt, which you will have to show when the
H1N1 shots become available, which should be shortly.
Timo1 - 10-29-2009 at 01:33 PM
If anyone can't get to or doesn't want a shot....Make sure you load up with vitamin D...preferably D3... 5000 IU per day
[Edited on 10-29-2009 by Timo1]
[Edited on 10-29-2009 by Timo1]
David K - 10-29-2009 at 04:24 PM
Timo, I take 400 I.U. of D (Calciferol) which is 100% of the U.S. RDA, besides what I also get in milk and food intake each day.
What is D3 and why is it safe to take that much of it?
Thank you!
PS I have been using Nova Vitamins for about 1.5 years and have not been ill to cold or flu since I started http://www.novavitamins.com/
In the past I have taken Amway/Nutrilte Double X and later Melaeuca's fructose compounded vitamins for years... But, the results from these Nova
vitamins have been the best, and the best price, as well...
[Edited on 10-29-2009 by David K]
BajaRae - 10-30-2009 at 04:59 AM
Wouldn't get a flu shot if you paid me.....
Take Wellness by Source Natural or Yin Chaio by Planetary if you think your getting sick or if you have been around ill people.
Flu Shots are loaded with animal virus, formaldehyde and allot of other ugly stuff. Just my opinion....and I'm not alone
Cypress - 10-30-2009 at 05:23 AM
BajaRae, Agree with you 100%!
Jack Swords - 10-30-2009 at 07:09 AM
Certainly to each his own, but I have had the H1N1 flu as have 6 members of my family. After a month, still not over it. It is a bad flu, reminds me
of the Hong Kong flu many years ago. My neighbor (41 years old) said his clothes hurt. Many younger folks suffer greatly. The number of
hospitalized children and pregnant women is greatly increased over the seasonal flu. Death rate among hospitalized pregnant women is above 20%. This
is not the ordinary flu, it strikes the young. Sadly, the vaccine is not available, even for high risk groups. 99% of the cases now are H1N1. Then
when the seasonal flu starts, it will be interesting to see how it plays out. After my bout (and others) with this flu, I would rather have the
vaccine than the disease, the consequences are too great. I now have my immunity, gained the hard way. But again, to each his own.
This might prove to be an interesting thread...
Timo1 - 10-30-2009 at 07:22 AM
There are good arguements both ways
here from the anti-vaccination side
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2009/10/2...
shari - 10-30-2009 at 07:26 AM
oh man...I've put alot of crazy things into this old body...but I draw the line at formaldehyde...at least for awhile!!!! I'm on the NO train.
jorgie - 10-30-2009 at 07:26 AM
Jack as much as I don't like a lot of the shots the thought that I could pick up H1N1 and pass it on to someone who then dies is the determining
factor . You are right this is a deadly flu the young without preconditions are dying . The demand is greater than the supply and those who are
priority folk are being missed . We didn't take it seriously enough and as you say , it's going to run over the " flu season" . Hopefully deaths will
be few but the start doesn't auger well
TMW - 10-30-2009 at 07:34 AM
One factor that is making it worse is that people are going to the emergency rooms with what they think is the H1N1 flu when they don't have it, but
the emergency rooms do have some cases of people having it and they pass it to the ones that don't.
I don't know what is in the various flu shots but people will claim it has or does all sorts of things to justify not getting it and they are entitled
to their opinoin and beliefs. Me, I get the shots and can not remember the last time I had the flu of anykind. Some of the people that work for me
won't get the shot and I have to redo the work schedule to cover them while they are sick.
rocmoc - 10-30-2009 at 08:36 AM
I have had it for a week and it is scary. REST, Rest, rest. Still not better but luckily not a bad case. Just hoping my better 3/4s doesn't catch
it. We are completely out of vaccine in So. AZ. TV & Doc office says it will be around Nov. 5th before more is to arrive.
rocmoc n AZ/Mexico
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David K - 10-30-2009 at 09:52 AM
Timo, I would like to hear back from you...
Jack, that is really sad to hear... was this the current one, this year? Glad you are better amigo!
vandenberg - 10-30-2009 at 10:00 AM
The flu shot available here is for the regular flu.
Apparently you need the little certificate that shows you received this shot before you're eligible for the H1N1 when it becomes available. This is
strictly hearsay information, so don't hold me to it.
vandenberg - 10-30-2009 at 10:09 AM
And....as an answer to all these home remedies to keep the flu and colds at bay, maybe some attention should be paid to alcohol as a preventative.
I've noticed for years that folks who drink copious amounts of the stuff, very seldom show signs of flu or cold like symptoms.
Just a thought.
Salud !!
Bajahowodd - 10-30-2009 at 02:58 PM
From what I've read, with respect to H1N1, people over the age of 60, or thereabouts and are in good health, have little to fear from this flu,
inasmuch as back in the day folks that old were exposed to a flu that had certain similar signatures, which caused the body to develop immunity. It's
kids that are really feeling the brunt.
However, it appears that the health authorities are way off in counting the actual numbers of victims. One actually has to be tested and show positive
for the virus. I'm assuming there's alot of folks who were ill and self-diagnosed.
rocmoc - 10-30-2009 at 03:20 PM
Numbers from the CDC are that the over 60 year old group gets fewer cases of H1N1 but has a higher percentage of deaths for the group. 1/3 of the
deaths are attributed to Bacterial Pneumonia that can be prevented with the Pneumonia Vaccine shot. Facts as stated by the CDC.
rocmoc n AZ/Mexico
Timo1 - 10-30-2009 at 03:32 PM
David K
I gave you a link to watch....they tell us the dose whether its right or wrong
no idea
There's a few stats I don't agree with on that video
As for D3.....A very good friend and lab tech at the local hospital told me about it
She also said that 5000 IU sounds a little high but not a problem
check out www.puritanspride.com for more info
bajario - 10-30-2009 at 05:42 PM
My childrens pediatricians office called yesterday and said they had a few H1n1 vaccines left and asked if we would like our children to get them. I
am torn between getting them and passing on them. I don't know enough about either the flu or vaccine. I only know what I hear on the news. Our
pediatrician says what he has seen come through his office are mild cases. I know that won't always be the case. I passed on the offering, at least
for now.
flu shot
desertcpl - 10-30-2009 at 06:29 PM
well this is my take on this,,
I am 65
WIFE is 60,,, we went to my doctor here in yuma,, gave us the regular flu shot,, we asked him about the H1nI
he will not give us the other shot,, guess he thinks we are to old
jorgie - 10-30-2009 at 08:40 PM
700 + died this week in the US from H1N1
Jack Swords - 10-31-2009 at 07:11 AM
Some vaccines that have stopped terrible diseases. Smallpox is eradicated, polio is virtually eliminated. The flu vaccine is one.
TABLE 1. Vaccine-preventable diseases, by year of vaccine development or licensure
-- United States, 1798-1998
===================================================================================
Disease Year
----------------------------------------------
Smallpox* 1798+
Rabies 1885+
Typhoid 1896+
Cholera 1896+
Plague 1897+
Diphtheria* 1923+
Pertussis* 1926+
Tetanus* 1927+
Tuberculosis 1927+
Influenza 1945&
Yellow fever 1953&
Poliomyelitis* 1955&
Measles* 1963&
Mumps* 1967&
Rubella* 1969&
Anthrax 1970&
Meningitis 1975&
Pneumonia 1977&
Adenovirus 1980&
Hepatitis B* 1981&
Haemophilus
influenzae type b* 1985&
Japanese
encephalitis 1992&
Hepatitis A 1995&
Varicella* 1995&
Lyme disease 1998&
Rotavirus* 1998&
----------------------------------------------
* Vaccine recommended for universal use in U.S. children. For smallpox, routine vaccination
was ended in 1971.
+ Vaccine developed (i.e., first published results of vaccine usage).
& Vaccine licensed for use in United States.
======================================================
Jack Swords - 10-31-2009 at 08:25 AM
Hola Larry...don't want to spend more time on this, but...
Local Drs. say they have not seen the usual flu yet. CDC says 98% of the cases are H1N1. They stopped testing for it. I had the seasonal flu shot 1
1/2 months ago, still got this one. Daughter teaches 11 yr olds, and they are dropping like flies. So who knows for sure, but it is a rough one. I
spent 6 trips in the High Sierra on pretty aduous back packs this summer, am in good shape, but for those with health problems it potentially could be
serious. Yet again, to each his own. I feel sorry for the kids, and their parents who have to decide on a course of action.
Be back down to work Subasta the 6th of December. Hopefully see you then.