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If you're crossing the border next week - BIG RAIN

wilderone - 1-16-2010 at 08:30 AM

This may be the kind of rain that will cause rocks and landslides into Mex. 1, and slow you down for sure. Plan accordingly. I would expect this rain as far south as Ensenada at least (IMHO). Forecasting 3 storms over 5 days, beginning Monday.

From the SD Union Trib: "A succession of storms is expected to bring heavy rain beginning Monday, and there may be only a few short breaks through Friday, according to the National Weather Service. Computer forecast models are calling for 5 to 8 inches of precipitation at the coast by the end of the week and more than 20 inches in the mountains - a year’s worth of rain for some locations."

nbacc - 1-16-2010 at 09:01 AM

WE are getting ready for it here in Northern Cal...they tell us lots of rain and wind...wish I was in San Feliipe!!!!!!

woody with a view - 1-16-2010 at 09:03 AM

looking at some models the jet stream is going to dip down and these storms should soak as far as GN and even further..... bring a shovel!

DENNIS - 1-16-2010 at 09:07 AM

Let it rain but, keep the heavy wind. Don't have any use for it.

wilderone - 1-16-2010 at 09:09 AM

Don't camp in an arroyo!!! Should be a green, flowery spring this year.

k-rico - 1-16-2010 at 09:09 AM

Our HOA (in TJ) sent out an email warning, which originated with the city, about the upcoming rains. Because of all the old homesteader shacks on the TJ hillsides, drenching rains are a big problem here.

DENNIS - 1-16-2010 at 09:14 AM

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Originally posted by k-rico
Our HOA (in TJ) sent out an email warning, which originated with the city, about the upcoming rains. Because of all the old homesteader shacks on the TJ hillsides, drenching rains are a big problem here.


In that respect, there's disaster almost every year. It doesn't take much water to wash a Kotex box off a hillside. There will be lots of damage this year, judgeing by the forecast.
Maybe the world is coming to an end. :O

woody with a view - 1-16-2010 at 09:15 AM

according to Danny Glover it is because of Copenhagen!

k-rico - 1-16-2010 at 09:20 AM

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Originally posted by DENNIS
Quote:
Originally posted by k-rico
Our HOA (in TJ) sent out an email warning, which originated with the city, about the upcoming rains. Because of all the old homesteader shacks on the TJ hillsides, drenching rains are a big problem here.


In that respect, there's disaster almost every year. It doesn't take much water to wash a Kotex box off a hillside. There will be lots of damage this year, judgeing by the forecast.
Maybe the world is coming to an end. :O


Or a new beginning. The area that is now Plaza Rio used to be filled with shacks, until the upstream dam was topped and a huge gully washer came through. I've only heard bits and pieces of this story, sounds like an interesting one.

Likewise Playas de Tijuana has been devastated by beach erosion, mostly during El Nino years. They are redeveloping it. A HUGE seawall is being built now.

I know a few property / business owners on the beachfront near the bullring. They are stoked. Lots of new construction and the remaining vacant lots all have high price tags on them. I saw one beach front lot advertised for $600 / meter. Way out-of-line I think but that's the asking price.


[Edited on 1-16-2010 by k-rico]

Bajaboy - 1-16-2010 at 09:23 AM

As for the San Diego area, I'll believe it when I see it. We'll get some rain I'm sure but not the 4-6 inches they predict. Each storm they make predictions only to fall way short. If we get more than an inch or so all the tv stations will have "breaking news" stories with "team coverage from throughout the county".....that's about all I'm predicting......

wilderone - 1-16-2010 at 09:42 AM

"If we get more than an inch or so all the tv stations will have "breaking news" stories with "team coverage from throughout the county'...."

Ha! And they have "film" of rain running down the street gutters to prove that it's raining as they've predicted!!
But if we get even half of what they predict, it will be a lot for San Diego to handle over the course of a week. Ground gets saturated after the first storm. The drainange channel in the TJ River Valley has been cleaned out and a berm created to direct the flow. Let's see how it takes these storms.

posted in Kats corner this morning

desertcpl - 1-16-2010 at 09:52 AM

http://www.sanfelipe.com.mx/news/hunker_down.html

DENNIS - 1-16-2010 at 09:52 AM

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Originally posted by k-rico
Or a new beginning. The area that is now Plaza Rio used to be filled with shacks, until the upstream dam was topped and a huge gully washer came through. I've only heard bits and pieces of this story, sounds like an interesting one.



Hand of God, or man. Think of all the Eminent Domain paperwork that was avoided. :lol:

k-rico - 1-16-2010 at 10:05 AM

Hand of God, or man??

Some claim the Rio Tijuana gully washer that cleared out the garbage was the latter, as you suggest. Redevelopment, Tijuana style.


[Edited on 1-16-2010 by k-rico]

David K - 1-16-2010 at 11:21 AM

This sucks for me... no work!

The funny part is after all this rain, which will bring us over the norm, 'they' will still say we have a water shortage!

So, convert to drip irrigation and MP Rotators to reduce water use... and still have a beautiful landscape! Call me!!:rolleyes::light::P

BornFisher - 1-16-2010 at 11:49 AM

Looks like the real deal to me. All components coming together for the perfect storm. Tons of water and wind. And it could go on for weeks!
So batten down those hatches!

Bajahowodd - 1-16-2010 at 12:33 PM

We can all reconvene in about a week and chat about what was or was not. It just seems to me that for as many years as I can recall, the worst predictions, the farthest ahead, usually turn out to be much less. And often, the worst storms were not predicted to be such. Even with satellites and the newest technology, it seems to me that predicting weather along the West Coast has been and continues to be a crap shoot. Huge expanse of open ocean can be unpredictable. Not so sure they are much better at it now than when all they had to rely on were ships at sea. Like, if it's pouring in Chicago, and you're living in Cleveland, you can pretty much expect just when it will rain in Cleveland. If you live in LA, San Diego or Ensenada, you don't have the same luxury.

jodiego - 1-16-2010 at 01:03 PM

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Originally posted by DENNIS
Let it rain but, keep the heavy wind. Don't have any use for it.


Doesn't look good Dennis. The forecast is calling for 60mph winds on Thursday.....ALONG THE COAST!!!

[Edited on 1-16-2010 by jodiego]

DENNIS - 1-16-2010 at 01:33 PM

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Originally posted by jodiego

Doesn't look good Dennis. The forecast is calling for 60mph winds on Thursday.....ALONG THE COAST!!!



WOW...60 MPH? That doesn't sound good at all. Is that for San Diego or here? We seem to be about a day behind San Diego.

Thanks

woody with a view - 1-16-2010 at 02:33 PM

a DAY? more like decades....

:lol::light::P;D

Woooosh - 1-16-2010 at 03:13 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by DENNIS
Quote:
Originally posted by k-rico
Our HOA (in TJ) sent out an email warning, which originated with the city, about the upcoming rains. Because of all the old homesteader shacks on the TJ hillsides, drenching rains are a big problem here.


In that respect, there's disaster almost every year. It doesn't take much water to wash a Kotex box off a hillside. There will be lots of damage this year, judgeing by the forecast.
Maybe the world is coming to an end. :O

Today's forecast is 5"-8". It's going to be a mess in the good areas and tragic for the TJ hillsides. Many power lines run on the ground too. Nothing like a local natural disaster to get the collective public to switch gears from narco-fear mode to neighbor again though.

Woooosh - 1-16-2010 at 03:17 PM

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Originally posted by Bajaboy
As for the San Diego area, I'll believe it when I see it. We'll get some rain I'm sure but not the 4-6 inches they predict. Each storm they make predictions only to fall way short. If we get more than an inch or so all the tv stations will have "breaking news" stories with "team coverage from throughout the county".....that's about all I'm predicting......


They don't get it right often in San Diego- just not enough real weather for them to practice on. I'll be watching for those live Mission Beach updates and their sandbagging efforts to know how bad it really is...:rolleyes:

fishbuck - 1-16-2010 at 04:17 PM

This could really foul up my bus ride to San @#$%^. Might have to wait for the next high tide.
The good thing that buses leave everyday. So when the moon and stars (and weather) are aligned... I'm gone!
Anybody know a good site for a tide chart for S.Rosalia?

woody with a view - 1-16-2010 at 04:24 PM

reef fish care about tides? i'd think being 10's of meters down it wouldn't matter:?:........

Barry A. - 1-16-2010 at 04:36 PM

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Originally posted by Woooosh

They don't get it right often in San Diego- just not enough real weather for them to practice on. I'll be watching for those live Mission Beach updates and their sandbagging efforts to know how bad it really is...:rolleyes:


My sister and brother-in-law live in South Mission Beach, and they get flooded even when a little rain---------this one could be interesting. :o

rts551 - 1-16-2010 at 04:41 PM

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Originally posted by fishbuck
This could really foul up my bus ride to San @#$%^. Might have to wait for the next high tide.
The good thing that buses leave everyday. So when the moon and stars (and weather) are aligned... I'm gone!
Anybody know a good site for a tide chart for S.Rosalia?


Busses don't have a problem. In fact they do better than most tourists

ELINVESTIG8R - 1-16-2010 at 04:48 PM

Thanks for
the
Update


toneart - 1-16-2010 at 04:57 PM

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Originally posted by Barry A.
Quote:
Originally posted by Woooosh

They don't get it right often in San Diego- just not enough real weather for them to practice on. I'll be watching for those live Mission Beach updates and their sandbagging efforts to know how bad it really is...:rolleyes:


My sister and brother-in-law live in South Mission Beach, and they get flooded even when a little rain---------this one could be interesting. :o


Once in awhile Mission Valley floods badly. Motels, restaurants and shopping malls get swamped. I have seen the underground parking lots under The Mission Valley Malls turn into a river, filling the parking lots and getting into the first floors of the shops.

The Ocean Beach Pier takes quite a hit too. :o Hey! Surf's up! :yes:

woody with a view - 1-16-2010 at 05:00 PM

check out the baseball fields below right by taylor st from the freeway during the rains. i've seen the dugouts covered in water. the homeless shelter known as the "riverbed" will be cleansed thouroughly and all the hypodermic needles and shopping carts will flush out at dog beach!!!:fire:

Woooosh - 1-16-2010 at 05:12 PM

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Originally posted by toneart
Quote:
Originally posted by Barry A.
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Originally posted by Woooosh

They don't get it right often in San Diego- just not enough real weather for them to practice on. I'll be watching for those live Mission Beach updates and their sandbagging efforts to know how bad it really is...:rolleyes:


My sister and brother-in-law live in South Mission Beach, and they get flooded even when a little rain---------this one could be interesting. :o


Once in awhile Mission Valley floods badly. Motels, restaurants and shopping malls get swamped. I have seen the underground parking lots under The Mission Valley Malls turn into a river, filling the parking lots and getting into the first floors of the shops.

The Ocean Beach Pier takes quite a hit too. :o Hey! Surf's up! :yes:


That whole area, including Qualcomm stadium- is built in a flood plain. It floods regularly and they accounted for the planned flooding in the Fashion Valley mall parking design. It just doesn't rain that hard that often to leave the land empty... You'd be surprised how many idiots try to drive through the water there- in spite of the signs and closures.

I was checking out the San Diego marine forecast. Lot's of rain will be coming in sideways with these 3 storms driven by a 200mph jet stream. 40-60 MPH on-shore winds and huge swells. The following week has the astronomical high tides again too.

THIS ALL WEEK LONG EVENT HAS THE POTENTIAL TO GENERATE RAINFALL OF 5 TO 8 INCHES NEAR THE COAST... AND 15 TO LOCALLY 25 INCHES ON THE COASTAL MOUNTAIN SLOPES. EVEN THE DESERT LOCATIONS ARE LIKELY TO RECEIVE BETWEEN 2 AND 4 INCHES OF RAIN.

GALE FORCE WINDS ARE LIKELY AT TIMES OVER THE COASTAL WATERS. LARGE SWELLS FROM HUGE SURF WILL PRODUCE WIDESPREAD BEACH EROSION THURSDAY
AND FRIDAY

http://www.weather.com/weather/alerts/localalerts/92101?phen...

In LA COUNTY: " THERE WILL ALSO BE THE POSSIBILITY OF PROPERTY DAMAGE TO PIERS AND HOMES CLOSE TO SHORE SIMILAR TO THE WINTER OF 1997-1998."

http://www.intellicast.com/Storm/Severe/Bulletins.aspx?state... Angeles

I think we need to watch this one. While everyone is watching Haiti (including us), Baja could get washed off the map. :O

[Edited on 1-17-2010 by Woooosh]

Mexicorn - 1-16-2010 at 07:36 PM

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Originally posted by jodiego
Quote:
Originally posted by DENNIS
Let it rain but, keep the heavy wind. Don't have any use for it.


Doesn't look good Dennis. The forecast is calling for 60mph winds on Thursday.....ALONG THE COAST!!!

[Edited on 1-16-2010 by jodiego]


It will be high and dry in Sharkeys!

roundtuit - 1-16-2010 at 08:15 PM

Fishbuck, Try Baja California Tide or Sonrisa net web Page for Mulege area

Baja California Tides

[Edited on 1-17-2010 by roundtuit]

baron - 1-16-2010 at 08:32 PM

Currently, the strong El Nino is reaching its peak in the Eastern Pacific, and now finally appears to be exerting an influence on our weather. The strong jet has been apparent for quite some time out over the open water, but the persistent block had prevented it from reaching the coast. Now that the block has dissolved completely, a 200+ kt jet is barreling towards us. Multiple large and powerful storm systems are expected to slam into CA from the west and northwest over the coming two weeks, all riding this extremely powerful jet stream directly into the state. The jet will itself provide tremendous dynamic lift, in addition to directing numerous disturbances right at the state and supplying them with an ample oceanic moisture source. The jet will be at quite a low latitude over much of the Pacific, so these storms will be quite cold, at least initially. Very heavy rainfall and strong to potentially very strong winds will impact the lower elevations beginning late Sunday and continuing through at least the following Sunday. This will be the case for the entire state, from (and south of) the Mexican border all the way up to Oregon. Above 3000-4000 feet, precipitation will be all snow, and since temperatures will be unusually cold for a precipitation event of this magnitude, a truly prodigious amount of snowfall is likely to occur in the mountains, possibly measured in the tens of feet in the Sierra after it's all said and done. But there's a big and rather threatening caveat to that (discussed below). Individual storm events are going to be hard to time for at least few more days, since this jet is just about as powerful as they come (on this planet, anyway). Between this Sunday and the following Sunday, I expect categorical statewide rainfall totals in excess of 3-4 inches. That is likely to be a huge underestimate for most areas. Much of NorCal is likely to see 5-10 inches in the lowlands, with 10-20 inches in orographically-favored areas. Most of SoCal will see 3-6 inches at lower elevations, with perhaps triple that amount in favored areas.
This is where things get even more interesting, though. The models are virtually unanimous in "reloading" the powerful jet stream and forming an additional persistent kink 2000-3000 miles to our southwest after next Sunday. This is a truly ominous pattern, because it implies the potential for a strong Pineapple-type connection to develop. Indeed, the 12z GFS now shows copious warm rains falling between days 12 and 16 across the entire state. Normally, such as scenario out beyond day seven would be dubious at best. Since the models are in such truly remarkable agreement, however, and because of the extremely high potential impact of such an event, it's worth mentioning now. Since there will be a massive volume of freshly-fallen snow (even at relatively low elevations between 3000-5000 feet), even a moderately warm storm event would cause very serious flooding. This situation will have to be monitored closely. Even if the tropical connection does not develop, expected rains in the coming 7-10 days will likely be sufficient to cause flooding in and of themselves (even in spite of dry antecedent conditions).
In addition to very heavy precipitation, powerful winds may result from very steep pressure gradients associated with the large and deep low pressure centers expect ed to begin approaching the coast by early next week. Though it's not clear at the moment just how powerful these winds may be, there is certainly the potential for a widespread damaging wind event at some point, and the high Sierra peaks are likely to see gusts in the 100-200 mph range (since the 200kt jet at 200-300 mb will essentially run directly into the mountains at some point). The details of this will have to be hashed out as the event(s) draw closer.
In short, the next 2-3 weeks (at least) are likely to be more active across California than any other 2-3 week period in recent memory. The potential exists for a dangerous flood scenario to arise at some point during this interval, especially with the possibility of a heavy rain-on-snow event during late week 2. In some parts of Southern California, a whole season's worth of rain could fall over the course of 5-10 days. This is likely to be a rather memorable event. Stay tuned…

woody with a view - 1-16-2010 at 08:49 PM

stay tuned.....

Issued by The National Weather Service
San Diego, CA
1:49 pm PST, Sat., Jan. 16, 2010

... BIG CHANGES IN THE WEATHER NEXT WEEK...

A SERIES OF STORMS WILL BRING PERIODS OF LOCALLY HEAVY RAIN AND STRONG WINDS NEXT WEEK WITH SNOW AT THE HIGHER ELEVATIONS.

THE FIRST STORM WILL ARRIVE MONDAY AND BRING RAIN... POSSIBLY HEAVY BY MONDAY EVENING. THE SNOW LEVEL WILL BE HIGH MONDAY... AROUND 7000 FEET... SO SNOW WILL BE RESTRICTED TO RESORT LEVELS. STRONG GUSTY WINDS WILL OCCUR LATE MONDAY INTO MONDAY NIGHT. SUBSEQUENT STORMS WILL IMPACT THE AREA TUESDAY THROUGH FRIDAY AND BRING MORE RAIN... HEAVY AT TIMES.

THIS ALL WEEK LONG EVENT HAS THE POTENTIAL TO GENERATE RAINFALL OF 5 TO 8 INCHES NEAR THE COAST... AND 15 TO LOCALLY 25 INCHES ON THE COASTAL MOUNTAIN SLOPES. EVEN THE DESERT LOCATIONS ARE LIKELY TO RECEIVE BETWEEN 2 AND 4 INCHES OF RAIN.

SNOW LEVELS WILL MOSTLY FLUCTUATE BETWEEN 5500 AND 7000 FEET WHICH WOULD CONFINE HEAVY SNOW ACCUMULATIONS TO THE HIGHER ELEVATIONS IN THE SAN BERNARDINO AND SAN JACINTO MOUNTAINS. AROUND 4 FEET OF SNOWFALL IS POSSIBLE AT THE HEAVIEST LOCATIONS.

WITH THE RAINFALL AMOUNTS EXPECTED... THERE IS HIGH LIKELIHOOD OF FLASH FLOODING... ALONG WITH MUD AND DEBRIS FLOWS... ESPECIALLY IN AND BELOW RECENTLY BURNED AREAS. THERE COULD ALSO BE ROCK SLIDES ALONG MOUNTAIN HIGHWAYS... MAKING TRAVEL IMPASSABLE AT TIMES. THE THREAT OF FLOODING WILL BE HIGHEST DURING THE SECOND HALF OF THE WEEK AS THE SOIL BECOMES MORE SATURATED.

WITH THE HEAVY SNOW FALL AMOUNTS EXCEPTED... THERE IS A POSSIBILITY OF AVALANCHES FOR AREAS LOCATED BELOW THE STEEPER SLOPES OF THE HIGHER SAN BERNARDINO AND SAN JACINTO MOUNTAINS.

THE STRENGTH OF THE JET STREAM DRIVING THESE STORMS IS OVER 200 MPH AND THE STORMS THEMSELVES WILL BE MOVING RAPIDLY ONSHORE IN QUICK SUCCESSION.

AS A RESULT THERE ARE LIKELY TO BE STRONG WINDS THROUGH MUCH OF NEXT WEEK. OVER THE COASTAL WATERS GALE FORCE OR HIGHER WINDS ARE EXPECTED. OVER LAND... DAMAGING WINDS ARE LIKELY TO PRECEDE THE ARRIVAL OF EACH STORM. WIND GUSTS BETWEEN 40 AND 60 MPH ARE POSSIBLE FOR THE COASTS AND VALLEYS... WHILE THE MOUNTAINS AND DESERTS MAY HAVE GUSTS 60 MPH OR HIGHER.

PEOPLE SHOULD STAY UPDATED WITH THE LATEST FORECASTS.

[Edited on 1-17-2010 by woody in ob]

Come on Rain!

Pompano - 1-17-2010 at 09:29 AM

Farming concerns in parts of California desperately need the refreshments.

Buddies around Greenfield, Salinas and San Juan Capistrano are hopeful. :yes:

As a side note, it will play hell with my Baja return via Tecate - Ensenada. I may forgo that route and opt for the roadgame of dodging sewage through TJ. :rolleyes:

Woooosh - 1-17-2010 at 11:18 AM

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Originally posted by Pompano
Farming concerns in parts of California desperately need the refreshments.

Buddies around Greenfield, Salinas and San Juan Capistrano are hopeful. :yes:

As a side note, it will play hell with my Baja return via Tecate - Ensenada. I may forgo that route and opt for the roadgame of dodging sewage through TJ. :rolleyes:


Get your cardboard ready. Hopefully a new thread will start once the storm actually hits to provide real time baja norte road and travel conditions.

The widened stretch of road to Playas Tijuana could be interesting (in a bad way) if water gets behind that new wall of retaining concrete they recently sprayed on the hillside. All eastern TJ will be a mess. Blvd 2000 could well be the best and safest storm route south. We'll see...

Terry28 - 1-17-2010 at 11:27 AM

We live in Big Bear and are getting ready for several feet of snow..bummer, gotta get ready...more firewood, food and of course mas pacifico's stay tuned.....Go Chargers!!

wessongroup - 1-17-2010 at 12:12 PM

Thanks for the insight on how it works around Rosarito and TJ, down here for the winter we were kinda wondering how things drain as have not seen much in the way of flood control and/or catchment basins

We will keep warm and dry..

About our only problem going into the storm, the refrigerator just went out.. The wife is moving frozen tamales (yeah Woody I know), burritos and other stuff to our neighbors until we can get another one in..

Cooking up a whole lot of stuff today.. will be an interesting day or two or three on the menu around our the house.. last night; shrimp c-cktails, streak sandwiches, and Green tamales...

But good



:):):)

Bob and Susan - 1-17-2010 at 12:20 PM

chicken pot pie here:)

DENNIS - 1-17-2010 at 12:23 PM

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Originally posted by wessongroup
and Green tamales...



When did you say your fridge went out? :lol:

Vados!

Bajahowodd - 1-17-2010 at 02:09 PM

Over the years, gradually, they have dealt with some of the most hazardous vados along highway one. Not there aren't many more to watch out for. I was wondering about one area in particular and whether anything has been done. In El Rosario, just beyond the curve. I recall there being a wall of muddy water flowing across the road. Any update on that one?

woody with a view - 1-17-2010 at 02:16 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by wessongroup
Thanks for the insight on how it works around Rosarito and TJ, down here for the winter we were kinda wondering how things drain as have not seen much in the way of flood control and/or catchment basins

We will keep warm and dry..

About our only problem going into the storm, the refrigerator just went out.. The wife is moving frozen tamales (yeah Woody I know), burritos and other stuff to our neighbors until we can get another one in..

Cooking up a whole lot of stuff today.. will be an interesting day or two or three on the menu around our the house.. last night; shrimp c-cktails, streak sandwiches, and Green tamales...

But good



:):):)


OH THE HUMANITY!!!!! take care of them tamales!!!

Woooosh - 1-18-2010 at 09:06 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by woody in ob
Quote:
Originally posted by wessongroup
Thanks for the insight on how it works around Rosarito and TJ, down here for the winter we were kinda wondering how things drain as have not seen much in the way of flood control and/or catchment basins
:):):)


OH THE HUMANITY!!!!! take care of them tamales!!!


Wessongroup: That's because in central Rosarito there are no storm drains or underground water conduits. ALL the water runs down the public streets and works its way to the ocean. Once the water level rises, the sewer systems also shut down and "bubble up" through the manholes. Both the rainwater and "chocolate water" then mix and run down the streets to the ocean. (the last storm we even had the orange fat from the Carnitas Michoacan restaurant floating by).

It's gross. If you have dogs- make sure you get the chocolate water off of them before they re-enter the house. We trained our dogs to stop inside the front gate for a fresh water hosing off.

wilderone - 1-18-2010 at 11:25 AM

Re eastern Sierra Nevada: "Since there will be a massive volume of freshly-fallen snow (even at relatively low elevations between 3000-5000 feet), even a moderately warm storm event would cause very serious flooding"

This is what happened in Jan. 2007. three snowstorms, dumping 6 ft. of snow, and then a warm rain. The rain adds to the heaviness of the snow - it broke my roof rafters; this storm phenemenon washed away a part of Hwy 395 near Walker, bowled over hundreds of pine trees, changed the course of the Walker River; swept away the hotel that was once on its banks; you can see the water line 60 feet up the adjacent bluff where water coursed through. If this is worse than Jan. 2007, it will indeed, be historical.

tripledigitken - 1-18-2010 at 11:48 AM

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Originally posted by wilderone
Re eastern Sierra Nevada: "Since there will be a massive volume of freshly-fallen snow (even at relatively low elevations between 3000-5000 feet), even a moderately warm storm event would cause very serious flooding"

This is what happened in Jan. 2007. three snowstorms, dumping 6 ft. of snow, and then a warm rain. The rain adds to the heaviness of the snow - it broke my roof rafters; this storm phenemenon washed away a part of Hwy 395 near Walker, bowled over hundreds of pine trees, changed the course of the Walker River; swept away the hotel that was once on its banks; you can see the water line 60 feet up the adjacent bluff where water coursed through. If this is worse than Jan. 2007, it will indeed, be historical.


That event happened in 1997 and was monumental taking out 8 miles of road through the Walker River Canyon along 395 from just north of the turnoff to Sonora Pass to the town of Walker.

I attended a prebid for the Caltrans Project that rebuilt the road.

That was a freak occurance that I hope doesn't repeat!

Ken

Hmmm....

Pompano - 1-18-2010 at 11:55 AM

Well, it looks like taking the Tecate - Ensenada Hwy 3 is not such a good idea after all the rain takes it toll on the torn-up stretches.

We will be a 34ft motorhome & a pickup with boat trailer...so far.

My question then: What's the current best route southbound for these rigs from San Diego?

San Ysidro or Otay or ?

We will have all paperwork in hand. Thanks.

edit to add: have already received a good answer and route. Gracias.

[Edited on 1-18-2010 by Pompano]

DENNIS - 1-18-2010 at 12:07 PM

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Originally posted by Pompano
My question then: What's the current best route southbound for these rigs from San Diego?

San Ysidro or Otay or ?



Roger.....My opinion is that it would depend on the weather at the time. Not sure when you plan to cross. If it's raining or has rained a lot, I'd go Otay over SY.
Again, my first choice would be Tecate and the toll road, or the free road, to 2000. High and dry all the way and you would miss the chaos of the Otay crossing. May take a little longer but, well....you know.

Pompano - 1-18-2010 at 12:09 PM

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Originally posted by DENNIS
Quote:
Originally posted by Pompano
My question then: What's the current best route southbound for these rigs from San Diego?

San Ysidro or Otay or ?



Roger.....My opinion is that it would depend on the weather at the time. Not sure when you plan to cross. If it's raining or has rained a lot, I'd go Otay over SY.
Again, my first choice would be Tecate and the toll road, or the free road, to 2000. High and dry all the way and you would miss the chaos of the Otay crossing. May take a little longer but, well....you know.


Thanks, Dennis. I'll keep that option open, also. We all plan to cross around Feb 1st, but all depends on a late arrival from Italy via LAX. Like all trips on the Baja Road, we play it by ear. :rolleyes:

I just make sure we camp well beered.

mtgoat666 - 1-18-2010 at 12:12 PM

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Originally posted by DENNIS
Quote:
Originally posted by Pompano
My question then: What's the current best route southbound for these rigs from San Diego?

San Ysidro or Otay or ?



Roger.....My opinion is that it would depend on the weather at the time. Not sure when you plan to cross. If it's raining or has rained a lot, I'd go Otay over SY.
Again, my first choice would be Tecate and the toll road, or the free road, to 2000. High and dry all the way and you would miss the chaos of the Otay crossing. May take a little longer but, well....you know.


san ysidro crossing is easy, and shortest path to south. route is well marked -- it's about 2 miles from border to toll road, road is well marked and the toll road is easy for even the most timid RV drivers

Pompano - 1-18-2010 at 12:21 PM

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Originally posted by mtgoat666
san ysidro crossing is easy, and shortest path to south. route is well marked -- it's about 2 miles from border to toll road, road is well marked and ....

....the toll road is easy for even the most timid RV drivers



:lol:

DENNIS - 1-18-2010 at 12:23 PM

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Originally posted by Pompano


:lol:



Don't forget to say, "Thank You." :lol:

Pompano - 1-18-2010 at 12:28 PM

I had a good laugh at that one, Dennis. Times and routes are ever-changing it seems...


After about 200 round trips from border to Mulege, I can think of a few other expressions people might make...timid is not one.

Maybe..Holy chite, LOOK OUT!

DENNIS - 1-18-2010 at 12:37 PM

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Originally posted by Pompano
Maybe..Holy chite, LOOK OUT!



Or, "What was that? I heard it and I felt it but, I didn't see it. Oh well...." :cool:

bajabass - 1-18-2010 at 03:24 PM

Get ready Nomads, it is on the way to you! Just spoke to my wife in Ensenada. No rain yet, but it is coming down HARD here in Orange. Several bad accidents all over LA/OC. Figure on a little rain tonight, but watch out for tomorrow folks! Stay safe, Stay dry!!

Bajahowodd - 1-18-2010 at 04:07 PM

Word is that storm #3 which should arrive in SOCAL Wednesday, will be the biggie. It will be warmer and fed by the sub-tropical jet. Got your papers in order?:lol:

bajabass - 1-18-2010 at 05:02 PM

This morning the news said the biggie will start Wednesday, but will be kicking burro all day Thursday. Glad I live in nice, flat, unburned Orange. The people in the canyons and below the burn areas are in for a long week! Possibilities of over 1" per hour. Coupled with high winds, should be fun watching the news.

shari - 1-18-2010 at 06:09 PM

We had a gorgeous perfect day today...lovely hot day...nice swim but we are starting to see some clouds now at sunset. It would be awesome if people would report on their local areas on rainfall and if it is coming our way...hunker down everybody.

DENNIS - 1-18-2010 at 06:11 PM

Just started coming down here and the wind is gusting to 30 MPH.

David K - 1-18-2010 at 06:39 PM

Was real heavy here in North County from 3-5 pm... all calm now... and the city drainage system works! (I am in a 'flood zone' near a river)

LaTijereta - 1-18-2010 at 07:00 PM

Pompano ...

Maybe you will have sometime to try out that new fishing tackle...:lol::lol:


desertcpl - 1-18-2010 at 07:13 PM

wasnt that taken just south of El Rosario,, cant remember the year,, but was they not there for several days or a week

greybaby - 1-18-2010 at 11:40 PM

When driving into Ensenada in pouring down rain from Chapultapec, we always tried to remember where the manhole covers were supposed to be. Once they started floating all bets were off as to where a tire could end up. Always an adventure, but one to use a little bit of caution on before proceeding full-speed ahead. Still beats the snow and weather we poor Northerners are enduring. Can we trade? Just for a little bit?

LaTijereta - 1-19-2010 at 06:33 AM

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Originally posted by desertcpl
wasnt that taken just south of El Rosario,, cant remember the year,, but was they not there for several days or a week


It was taken at San Matias Pass, on Hwy 3 headed to San Felipe..