BajaNomad - OLD MAPS of BAJA 1701, 1747, 1765, 1777, 1780, 1794, 1811, 1825, 1845, 1868, 1904

OLD MAPS of BAJA 1701, 1747, 1765, 1777, 1780, 1794, 1811, 1825, 1845, 1868, 1904

David K - 2-26-2010 at 06:48 PM

Some never seen before on Nomad!

Hope you find this as interesting as do I...

Enjoy! (zoom in close ups by request)

1701:

1747:

1765:

1777:

1780:

1794:

1811:

1825:

1825-2:

1845:

1868:

1904:

[Edited on 2-27-2010 by David K]

1868

David K - 2-26-2010 at 07:09 PM

On the 1868 plate above are two maps... there they are seperated...

Bob H - 2-26-2010 at 11:37 PM

It's amazing to me how these old maps start to really look like the real Baja around the 1800's... then get even more detailed as time goes on. The really older ones don't look like Baja at all, as we know it today.

Interesting images, for sure. Thanks David.
Bob H

I find it interesting...

Mexray - 2-27-2010 at 12:23 AM

...that Baja California is called the Nation (or Land) of the Cochimies on the older maps...at least they got some published credit!

Bob H - 2-27-2010 at 12:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mexray
...that Baja California is called the Nation (or Land) of the Cochimies on the older maps...at least they got some published credit!

Ray, you've got very good vision. I could not read the fine print and could not figure out how to zoom in.

Bob H

Sharksbaja - 2-27-2010 at 12:44 AM

Superb copies/scans David. Gracias for the effort. They really show the advancements and progress in mapmaking!

btw, isn't it time YOU wrote a book or ?? on the Baja Missions and Baja travel? You seem to have a nice amount of info. Perhaps a guide. With that you could go many ways, from missions to those approved "secret spots" :lol:

Seriously David I think you should think about it?

woody with a view - 2-27-2010 at 12:45 AM

there are very few, if any "approved" secret spots! NO?

Bob..I'm using Safari...

Mexray - 2-27-2010 at 12:47 AM

...as my browser - it seems to load stuff faster than Explorer -

Anyway, I right-click on the image, then load it in a new window, then I hit "Control/=" key at the same time to enlarge the image one step at a time, likewise "Control/-" will shrink it...I think the same routine will work with Explorer...

Ray

Sharksbaja - 2-27-2010 at 01:02 AM

Oh heck Woody sure, we can all trust David to only expose the "right" places.

The "Nomad Approval Committee" would be another story. I guess we should get that in order. I nominate Woody of Ocean Beach as committee chairman. :saint:

woody with a view - 2-27-2010 at 01:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sharksbaja
Oh heck Woody sure, we can all trust David to only expose the "right" places.

The "Nomad Approval Committee" would be another story. I guess we should get that in order. I nominate Woody of Ocean Beach as committee chairman. :saint:

i rec'd a U2U recently stating a fellow GoMad was contemplating leaving a GPS co-ord to his "GROWLER." He planned to leave it on "Shell Island" for our Hero to digest next time He(hero) wanted to "get away from it all" and maybe step on a pile of the same humanity that Shell Island seems to represent for him and hers..... it's not like OUR spots don't matter!

is it clear?

Sharksbaja - 2-27-2010 at 01:30 AM

Crystal!

woody with a view - 2-27-2010 at 01:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mexray
...as my browser - it seems to load stuff faster than Explorer -

Anyway, I right-click on the image, then load it in a new window, then I hit "Control/=" key at the same time to enlarge the image one step at a time, likewise "Control/-" will shrink it...I think the same routine will work with Explorer...

Ray

gosh darnn, i think i'm in LOVE!!!!

Sharksbaja - 2-27-2010 at 02:15 AM

http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=37281#pid396940

Woody,you been squintin' all this time? Shame for not knowing! :lol:

Don't worry in two or three days you'll forget and start squintin' again, I know! :lol:

Still, I feel fortunate to seldom don reading glasses .

The zoom is a great feature tho, I use it when I can remember to. :rolleyes:

Sharksbaja - 2-27-2010 at 02:31 AM

Btw, up until about 8 months ago my laptop would not zoom. Now it does. I think when I updated my browser it updated w/the feature. A convenient accessory for sure.

Also, you can manipulate many windows features to suit your needs and comfort.

Many features on Windows or other OS use text box and window defaults that strain the eyes. I have changed many visible screen elements for ergonomic and safety reasons.

Makes a BIG difference in places where there is a lot of ambient light. I also setup different graphics profiles to use with various light conditions.

It takes a little tweaking but you can enhance titlebars, various text elements etc. I use the feature(s) for ease of use off-road when you can't take time to refocus your eyes when executing a command(s) with a wireless mouse. I think I showed my setup here somewhere.

David K - 2-27-2010 at 10:28 AM

For Woody, I have always freely shared the location of Shell Island with my Nomad friends... There is plenty of beach to share for the few days I am there each year. It is the same as it was 32 years ago when I first camped there... even after sharing the location on the World Wide Web. It is also easy to get to, less than 3 miles from a paved highway.

It doesn't appeal to surfers because there are no waves, but it is beautiful for those who love sand beaches and it is not too far from the border.

Your 'secret' beach is known by surfers, that you fear being crowded out at a place that is so far south, and so hard to get to, and only appeals to surfers since it is foggy and cold most of the time, from my Nomad report on the dirt road (that happens to go by it, without me naming the exact surf point you like) ... is totally unwarrented.

David K - 2-27-2010 at 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bob H

Quote:

Originally posted by Mexray
...that Baja California is called the Nation (or Land) of the Cochimies on the older maps...at least they got some published credit!

Ray, you've got very good vision. I could not read the fine print and could not figure out how to zoom in.

Bob H

I will provide zoom in close ups of any of the maps you would like to see more details of. Just tell me which map and what part of the map you want a close up of!

Bob H - 2-27-2010 at 02:41 PM

Quote:

I copied and pasted an image in Microsoft Word and the Control= worked, but it was very blurry and I still could not read it.

1868 L Map Closer

David K - 2-27-2010 at 05:08 PM

North:

Central:

South:

1868-R Map Close Up

David K - 2-27-2010 at 05:11 PM

North:

Central:

South:

1777 Close Up

David K - 2-27-2010 at 05:20 PM

1777 North:

1777 South:

This is an English copy of the 1757 Jesuit Miguel Venegas map... which in 1757, was drawn from information gathered about 10 years earlier. Beyond San Ignacio are three 'started' missions (San Juan Bautista, Dolores del Norte and Santa Maria Magdalena... abbreviated as 'S.M.' on this version.)

Only Dolores del Norte (whose name was changed to Santa Gertrudis) became a true mission. San Juan Bautista became the lost Santa Clara mission, and Santa Maria Magdalena may have been started at this site: http://vivabaja.com/109 discovered in 1966.

1868-L Yubay

David K - 2-27-2010 at 05:31 PM

Here is max. zoom on the area from San Luis (Gonzaga) Bay to L.A. Bay and across to the Pacific... Shows the El Camino Real and the famous Tinaja de Yubay along the route...

[Edited on 2-28-2010 by David K]

Sharksbaja - 2-28-2010 at 05:02 AM

WOW! Those scans are awsome David! You have it down! Good stuff indeed.

Gives one something to ponder or use!
:yes:

capt. mike - 2-28-2010 at 08:40 AM

DK - where do you get these??
i have framed baja maps all over my home and office.
those are worthy of framing/ mounting at sizes appropriate.
are they digital files?

David K - 2-28-2010 at 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by capt. mike
DK - where do you get these??
i have framed baja maps all over my home and office.
those are worthy of framing/ mounting at sizes appropriate.
are they digital files?

I could tell you... but then I would have to... :lol:

(Seriously, I found them on the Internet.)

David K - 3-11-2010 at 09:22 AM

Any requests for close ups of an area or place on any of these or other old maps that I have?

Scroll down this forum to see many other maps posted by me over the years on Nomad...

I am happy to share what I have collected with fellow Baja enthusiasts!

BajaRat - 3-11-2010 at 10:02 PM

Thanks

Lionel

David K - 8-16-2010 at 03:43 PM

El gusto es mio!

Udo - 1-23-2012 at 04:50 PM

Great fotos DK!
I wish I had your library...

David K - 1-23-2012 at 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Udo
Great fotos DK!
I wish I had your library...

You know where it is (and you have been here before)... Mi casa es tu casa!

Osprey - 1-23-2012 at 06:47 PM

David, the earlier maps were made by rustic first generation satellites made of mud, sticks and feathers.

The later ones of wood with glass telescopes show the glaring difference in technoligy but still lack modern detail.

I find it interesting that very early cartographers used the names of their families, farm animals and pets for landmarks, rivers, estuaries, etc.

Not one mention about the first guy, Jemenez. Must have been a bad dude or somebody took him off the board before we got to appreciate what he did.

David K - 1-23-2012 at 06:49 PM

Right you are!! :light:

David K - 2-3-2014 at 12:11 PM

If anybody has found an old map, please share or send me the link or your scan to share.