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shocked.gif posted on 2-26-2010 at 06:48 PM
OLD MAPS of BAJA 1701, 1747, 1765, 1777, 1780, 1794, 1811, 1825, 1845, 1868, 1904


Some never seen before on Nomad!

Hope you find this as interesting as do I...

Enjoy! (zoom in close ups by request)

1701:


1747:


1765:


1777:


1780:


1794:


1811:


1825:


1825-2:


1845:


1868:


1904:


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[*] posted on 2-26-2010 at 07:09 PM
1868


On the 1868 plate above are two maps... there they are seperated...








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[*] posted on 2-26-2010 at 11:37 PM


It's amazing to me how these old maps start to really look like the real Baja around the 1800's... then get even more detailed as time goes on. The really older ones don't look like Baja at all, as we know it today.

Interesting images, for sure. Thanks David.
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[*] posted on 2-27-2010 at 12:23 AM
I find it interesting...


...that Baja California is called the Nation (or Land) of the Cochimies on the older maps...at least they got some published credit!



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[*] posted on 2-27-2010 at 12:41 AM


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...that Baja California is called the Nation (or Land) of the Cochimies on the older maps...at least they got some published credit!


Ray, you've got very good vision. I could not read the fine print and could not figure out how to zoom in.

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[*] posted on 2-27-2010 at 12:44 AM


Superb copies/scans David. Gracias for the effort. They really show the advancements and progress in mapmaking!

btw, isn't it time YOU wrote a book or ?? on the Baja Missions and Baja travel? You seem to have a nice amount of info. Perhaps a guide. With that you could go many ways, from missions to those approved "secret spots" :lol:

Seriously David I think you should think about it?:D




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[*] posted on 2-27-2010 at 12:45 AM


there are very few, if any "approved" secret spots! NO?



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[*] posted on 2-27-2010 at 12:47 AM
Bob..I'm using Safari...


...as my browser - it seems to load stuff faster than Explorer -

Anyway, I right-click on the image, then load it in a new window, then I hit "Control/=" key at the same time to enlarge the image one step at a time, likewise "Control/-" will shrink it...I think the same routine will work with Explorer...

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[*] posted on 2-27-2010 at 01:02 AM


Oh heck Woody sure, we can all trust David to only expose the "right" places.;)

The "Nomad Approval Committee" would be another story. I guess we should get that in order. I nominate Woody of Ocean Beach as committee chairman.:saint:




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Oh heck Woody sure, we can all trust David to only expose the "right" places.;)

The "Nomad Approval Committee" would be another story. I guess we should get that in order. I nominate Woody of Ocean Beach as committee chairman.:saint:


i rec'd a U2U recently stating a fellow GoMad was contemplating leaving a GPS co-ord to his "GROWLER." He planned to leave it on "Shell Island" for our Hero to digest next time He(hero) wanted to "get away from it all" and maybe step on a pile of the same humanity that Shell Island seems to represent for him and hers..... it's not like OUR spots don't matter!

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Crystal!



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...as my browser - it seems to load stuff faster than Explorer -

Anyway, I right-click on the image, then load it in a new window, then I hit "Control/=" key at the same time to enlarge the image one step at a time, likewise "Control/-" will shrink it...I think the same routine will work with Explorer...

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[*] posted on 2-27-2010 at 02:15 AM


http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=37281#pid396940

:P

Woody,you been squintin' all this time? Shame for not knowing!:lol::lol:


Don't worry in two or three days you'll forget and start squintin' again, I know!:lol:

Still, I feel fortunate to seldom don reading glasses .

The zoom is a great feature tho, I use it when I can remember to.:rolleyes:




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[*] posted on 2-27-2010 at 02:31 AM


Btw, up until about 8 months ago my laptop would not zoom. Now it does. I think when I updated my browser it updated w/the feature. A convenient accessory for sure.

Also, you can manipulate many windows features to suit your needs and comfort.

Many features on Windows or other OS use text box and window defaults that strain the eyes. I have changed many visible screen elements for ergonomic and safety reasons.

Makes a BIG difference in places where there is a lot of ambient light. I also setup different graphics profiles to use with various light conditions.

It takes a little tweaking but you can enhance titlebars, various text elements etc. I use the feature(s) for ease of use off-road when you can't take time to refocus your eyes when executing a command(s) with a wireless mouse. I think I showed my setup here somewhere.




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[*] posted on 2-27-2010 at 10:28 AM


For Woody, I have always freely shared the location of Shell Island with my Nomad friends... There is plenty of beach to share for the few days I am there each year. It is the same as it was 32 years ago when I first camped there... even after sharing the location on the World Wide Web. It is also easy to get to, less than 3 miles from a paved highway.

It doesn't appeal to surfers because there are no waves, but it is beautiful for those who love sand beaches and it is not too far from the border.

Your 'secret' beach is known by surfers, that you fear being crowded out at a place that is so far south, and so hard to get to, and only appeals to surfers since it is foggy and cold most of the time, from my Nomad report on the dirt road (that happens to go by it, without me naming the exact surf point you like) ... is totally unwarrented.




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Originally posted by Mexray
...that Baja California is called the Nation (or Land) of the Cochimies on the older maps...at least they got some published credit!


Ray, you've got very good vision. I could not read the fine print and could not figure out how to zoom in.

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Quote:
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...as my browser - it seems to load stuff faster than Explorer -

Anyway, I right-click on the image, then load it in a new window, then I hit "Control/=" key at the same time to enlarge the image one step at a time, likewise "Control/-" will shrink it...I think the same routine will work with Explorer...

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I copied and pasted an image in Microsoft Word and the Control= worked, but it was very blurry and I still could not read it.
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[*] posted on 2-27-2010 at 05:08 PM
1868 L Map Closer


North:



Central:



South:





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[*] posted on 2-27-2010 at 05:11 PM
1868-R Map Close Up


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[*] posted on 2-27-2010 at 05:20 PM
1777 Close Up


1777 North:



1777 South:



This is an English copy of the 1757 Jesuit Miguel Venegas map... which in 1757, was drawn from information gathered about 10 years earlier. Beyond San Ignacio are three 'started' missions (San Juan Bautista, Dolores del Norte and Santa Maria Magdalena... abbreviated as 'S.M.' on this version.)

Only Dolores del Norte (whose name was changed to Santa Gertrudis) became a true mission. San Juan Bautista became the lost Santa Clara mission, and Santa Maria Magdalena may have been started at this site: http://vivabaja.com/109 discovered in 1966.




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