BajaNomad - building materials in Ensenada, San Quintin or TJ?

building materials in Ensenada, San Quintin or TJ?

shari - 4-19-2010 at 07:43 AM

Since lots of people have built homes...can anyone please post phone numbers of building supply places known for good prices...mainly looking for wood prices. Just wondering if it would be worth it to truck it here from the north for a house building project or just get it in Vizcaino??? thanks amigos

astrobaja - 4-19-2010 at 07:49 AM

Shari, we are on the road right now so I can't check the yellow pages for an address but we found the best quality wood and selection at Los Olivos in Ensenada. They do their own milling work. Got all our vigas from them as well as very nice machimbre

shari - 4-19-2010 at 07:51 AM

thanks astro...love it that I'll learn something new today...what is machimbre??

DENNIS - 4-19-2010 at 07:58 AM

If you want the best quality at competitive prices, go no farther than Home Depot. They have Douglas Fir and, as far as I'm concerned, the prices are good. A lesser quality of wood, such as Hemlock Fir which is all over the place here, is structural trash and you'll pay for that mistake in the future.

Forget bringing it from the states. Those days are long over. What you save on cost, you lose on tarifs and transportation.

Los Olivos is a good yard, especially for heavy stuff, but I've not seen Doug Fir in their racks.

durrelllrobert - 4-19-2010 at 08:38 AM

AMS on Reforma (next to Ford dealer) in Ensenada for metal studs, joists, etc.
metal does not warp, twist, bow, burn or get eating by termites and you can use smaller sizes than wood for long spans on joists,etc. :coolup:

jak - 4-19-2010 at 10:19 AM

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Originally posted by durrelllrobert
AMS on Reforma (next to Ford dealer) in Ensenada for metal studs, joists, etc.
metal does not warp, twist, bow, burn or get eating by termites and you can use smaller sizes than wood for long spans on joists,etc. :coolup:

And it is perfectly straight, if not sat on. :cool:

DENNIS - 4-19-2010 at 10:29 AM

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Originally posted by jak

And it is perfectly straight, if not sat on. :cool:

Is it that delicate?

BajaGringo - 4-19-2010 at 10:47 AM

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Originally posted by shari
thanks astro...love it that I'll learn something new today...what is machimbre??

Machimbre is tongue and groove. We used it at our new place and everybody loves how it came out...

DENNIS - 4-19-2010 at 10:56 AM

Home Depot doesn't carry T&G...FYI.

irenemm - 4-19-2010 at 02:26 PM

Our Restaurant the Posada Don Diego and the other building roof are t&g. the dining room we drywalled a few years ago for the cold and heat. Unless you insulate the outside roof it gets pretty cold, and hot also come summer time. If you walk from the dinning room into the gift store in the summer you can really tell the difference. We are about 2-3 miles from the beach so we are not inland. Our house was also t&g we dry wall also. What we did for the Banquet room was steal and aluminum roofing. In some area of Mexico guarantee for 50 years. Here just 15. but no re-roofing. Tar & roofing paper here does not last. Not to many can put on a good roof. Have not found one yet.
T&G look so beautiful too.

BajaGringo - 4-19-2010 at 04:19 PM

We put plywood down on top of the T&G and then tarred it. We covered that with the heavy grade of tar paper and shingled over that. I really like how it came out as the extra layers over the T&G not only help keep the house dry, it also keeps the interior warm in winter and cool in summer.

DENNIS - 4-19-2010 at 04:23 PM

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We put plywood down on top of the T&G and then tarred it. We covered that with the heavy grade of tar paper and shingled over that.

WOW...That is one heavy roof. Good thing you kept the tar away from the wood. Nothing is forever and it will be a lot easier to redo it later.

BajaGringo - 4-19-2010 at 04:25 PM

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Originally posted by BajaGringo
We put plywood down on top of the T&G and then tarred it. We covered that with the heavy grade of tar paper and shingled over that.

WOW...That is one heavy roof. Good thing you kept the tar away from the wood. Nothing is forever and it will be a lot easier to redo it later.

Hopefully not in this lifetime!

:lol:

BajaWarrior - 4-19-2010 at 07:30 PM

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Originally posted by BajaGringo
We put plywood down on top of the T&G and then tarred it. We covered that with the heavy grade of tar paper and shingled over that. I really like how it came out as the extra layers over the T&G not only help keep the house dry, it also keeps the interior warm in winter and cool in summer.

Is the T&G you used 3/4" or 1 1/2"?

BajaGringo - 4-19-2010 at 07:39 PM

We used 3/4" T&G

Pacifico - 4-19-2010 at 08:14 PM

Shari,

See this thread I did before. This place was great.....

http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=39270#pid4245...

postholedigger - 4-19-2010 at 09:02 PM

I second Los Olivos in Ensenada. We've purchased wood there for construction as well as for house furniture.

Directions from Juarez (Calle Cinco): Use Juarez to get to Reforma and go through the intersection. At that point Juarez turns into Cortes. Continue till you near the road leading out to Ojos. You'll find a Pemex on the left and Los Olivos is on the right.

Google Street View Link For Los Olivos:
Nice to see Street View available in Baja now.http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=31.863444,-116.581872&spn=0,0.011169&t=h&z=17&layer=c&c bll=31.863346,-116.581789&panoid=LwJIk21SJUMLdptl9_3AXw&cbp=12,0.68,,0,2.67

[Edited on 4-20-2010 by postholedigger]

DENNIS - 4-19-2010 at 09:06 PM

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Originally posted by BajaWarrior

Is the T&G you used 3/4" or 1 1/2"?

Inch and a half? Never have seen it that thick anywhere.
Another thing.......I've seen a lot more "Shiplap" down here than T&G and most is rough one side. Gives you the option of a variety of finishes.

DENNIS - 4-19-2010 at 09:10 PM

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Originally posted by postholedigger

Google Street View Link For Los Olivos:
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=31.8634...

Nice to see Street View available in Baja now.

Try this:

http://tinyurl.com/yypjtwk

BajaWarrior - 4-19-2010 at 09:25 PM

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Is the T&G you used 3/4" or 1 1/2"?

Your rough one side shiplap would be spruce which is used here (states) for overhang sheeting.

Yeah, the 1 1/2" exists, big bucks.

[Edited on 4-20-2010 by BajaWarrior]

BajaGringo - 4-19-2010 at 09:44 PM

My 3 story A frame up in Sequoia was built using 1 1/2" T&G. It was put in by the original owner, Hal Aaron who owned the biggest lumberyard in Bakersfield at the time (1964). He went first class including 36 foot long kiln dried pretreated 6X12"s underneath. Can't even imagine what they would cost today if you could even find them.

I special ordered the T&G for our new place vs translape which is what I think you are referring to Dennis. Cost a little more but I really like how it came out. Nice to look up at first thing each morning...

DENNIS - 4-19-2010 at 09:44 PM

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Your rough one side shiplap would be spruce which is used here (states) for overhang sheeting.

Never seen spruce here either. All cheap pine. Maybe spruce in the states, but not here.

postholedigger - 4-19-2010 at 10:25 PM

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Originally posted by DENNIS

Try this:

http://tinyurl.com/yypjtwk

Thanks, Dennis. Fixed the URL.

irenemm - 4-19-2010 at 10:35 PM

baja gringo that is like an insulation and will help to keep it warm and all your heat won't escape. on the bay it is cooler than Vicente Guerrero so summer will be pretty nice. keep that heat out too.
our pitch on the roof was always to low for shingles. paper does not last at all here.
nice ceiling. nice house.
there is a hardware store here in Vicente Guerrero who can get you anthing you want even from the States. It is Cofema and the guy to talk to is Lalo. phone is 616 166 2656. Tell him Posada Don Diego sent you.
no kick back darn.

oladulce - 4-20-2010 at 01:36 AM

How about South of you Shari?

Here are 3 lumber yards in Cd Constitución:

Madereria El Pino de Los Cabos 613-132-8251 (The largest stock on hand most of the time, probably the best prices of the three lumber yards but they're all pretty close in price)

Maderas Madero 613.132-0255 (no personal experience)

Madereria Y Ferreteria San Francisco 613.132-4931 (moderate stock on hand, good with special orders)

Nomad CP has a master woodcraftsman husband who makes all their gorgeous furniture, doors, moulding and trim out of Alder which he special orders from Maderas San Francisco.

BajaGringo - 4-20-2010 at 08:13 AM

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baja gringo that is like an insulation and will help to keep it warm and all your heat won't escape. on the bay it is cooler than Vicente Guerrero so summer will be pretty nice. keep that heat out too.
our pitch on the roof was always to low for shingles. paper does not last at all here.
nice ceiling. nice house.

The pitch is one of the keys to how long a roof will last. It is tempting to go with a low pitch as it is much easier to put up and less cost. The obvious problem with the low pitch is that roofing shingles will just not hold up over time very well. You will be up on the roof doing repairs after each strong wind as the low angle allows the air to get underneath them quite easily. The bigger and more expensive problem is that it puts a lot of extra stress on your support beams. To keep them from bowing after a season or two you have to go with very short spans or much larger beams.

I also just happen to like how the higher ceilings look as it adds a lot of space to the interior...

DENNIS - 4-20-2010 at 08:18 AM

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Originally posted by BajaGringo
I also just happen to like how the higher ceilings look as it adds a lot of space to the interior...

And a lot of space to heat when it's cold.

irenemm - 4-20-2010 at 01:48 PM

add fans to push the heat down in the winter and reverse when it's hot
it works for me.

durrelllrobert - 4-21-2010 at 11:07 AM

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We used 3/4" T&G

... 3/4 T&G + 3/8 ply? hope the tar paper nails were not 1-1/2". ruins the look of a nice T&G ceiling :spingrin:

BajaGringo - 4-21-2010 at 11:50 AM

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Originally posted by BajaGringo
We used 3/4" T&G

... 3/4 T&G + 3/8 ply? hope the tar paper nails were not 1-1/2". ruins the look of a nice T&G ceiling :spingrin:

No, it was 3/4 T&G + 3/4 ply + roofing tar + tar paper + shingles. When I measured the roof thickness it came out to just over 2".

DENNIS - 4-21-2010 at 12:04 PM

Soooo......if you stacked a 6x6 inch piece of 1-by with the same of ply, one layer of tar paper and two layers of shingle....then weigh the sample and multiply that by four......you would have the weight of each square foot of your roof.
Muitiply that by total square footage, add about five pounds for clavos, and you have the weight of your roof less the weight of the structure supporting it.
You can do this with your whole house, Ron. Who wouldn't want to know these things. Contractors should build by weight. That way, you wouldn't be paying for square feet of air. :biggrin:

Yep....that's the way it oughta be.

BajaGringo - 4-21-2010 at 12:06 PM

And deduct all my hours of labor from their bill...

:lol: