BajaNomad - Dish Network Signal Strength Since Satellite Swap to E14?

mtgoat666 - 6-21-2010 at 03:03 PM

that sounds like a lot of work. what do we get in return?

BCSTech - 6-21-2010 at 03:10 PM

I'd say curiosity, but if it's too much work, then don't do it.

That's Interesting

MrBillM - 6-21-2010 at 03:10 PM

South of San Felipe, after seeing a number of "Signal Error" messages towards the end of May, I noticed in checking that a number of the signal strengths were down from the last time I'd looked.

NOW I know why. Thanks.

When I am able to check the signal strengths, I'll post them.

Udo - 6-21-2010 at 08:41 PM

This was pretty easy, y'all!

Long 34.210074
Lat. 117.130336

Numbers:
1-8=0
9-16=0
17-21=0
22=79
23=0
24=79
25=95
26=79
27=85
28=77
29=0
30=81
31=60
32=83

Como esta eso, Alan?

Wally - 6-22-2010 at 10:06 AM

San Jose
119
8 or 9 foot round (think it's 9). Not sure of manufacturer. Fiberglass
6:30am this morning, clear sky, no wind

TP --- SIG
01 --- 0
02 --- 0
03 --- 0
04 --- 0
05 --- 28
06 --- 47
07 --- 32
08 --- 45
09 --- 45
10 --- 39
11 --- 37
12 --- 53
13 --- 46
14 --- 36
15 --- 46
16 --- 57
17 --- 46
18 --- 47
19 --- 44
20 --- 55
21 --- 53

FYI
1.2 meter dish pointed at 129
Plastic. manufacturer unknown.

TP --- SIG
01 - 15 = 0
16 --- 36
17 --- 35
18 --- 38
19 --- 36
20 --- 37
21 --- 46
22 --- 37
23 --- 34
24 --- 37
25 --- 33
26 --- 36
27 --- 34
28 --- 36
29 --- 34
30 --- 34
31 --- 35
32 --- 37

I had considered checking to see if aiming the 9 foot dish at 129 would pull in the zero value transponders but after just checking lyngsat it appears they are all spot beams so it wouldn't matter anyway.

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BCSTech - 6-22-2010 at 08:37 PM

This is today from an old 1.1 meter DirecTV dish in Todos Santos:

01-05 -- 00
06 -- 34
07 -- 18
08 -- 15
09 -- 18
10 -- 23
11 -- 25
12 -- 30
13 -- 21
14 -- 24
15 -- 36
16 -- 31
17 -- 23
18 -- 32
19 -- 36
20 -- 30
21 -- 34

A few weeks ago, shortly after the satellite swap, we had these readings from the same dish

TP----SIG
01 -- 0
02 -- 12
03 -- 0
04 -- 0
05 -- 0
06 -- 20
07 -- 0
08 -- 28
09 -- 23
10 -- 20
11 -- 32
12 -- 43
13 -- 18
14 -- 19
15 -- 44
16 -- 44
17 -- 17
18 -- 19
19 -- 42
20 -- 41
21 -- 17

[Edited on 6-23-2010 by BCSTech]

Bomberro - 6-23-2010 at 03:48 PM

The sat maps shows a reception pattern that looks like a wave. You are doing better in Todos than we are doing here in Los Barriles. We have 5 transponders that have much reduced power, 7, 8, 10 and 14 come in with about 12 to 14 on a 1.2, 14 will work but takes a very fine tune to get it to a yellow signal level. Looks like the 7/8 change over is done, and so we hope no more losses...The Satellite Guy

karenintx - 6-23-2010 at 05:51 PM

CSL - Medano Beach area

Aprox. = 2 meter...could be a little bigger.

Don't know the brand...belongs to the HOA

01 - 05 = 0
06 = 46
07 = 34
08 = 43
09 = 52
10 = 30
11 = 39
12 = 55
13 = 53
14 = 40
15 = 48
16 = 57
17 = 54
18 = 40
19 = 47
20 = 51
21= =52

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Udo - 6-23-2010 at 06:29 PM

karenintx

Are those numbers with 1080p reception? (HD).

karenintx - 6-23-2010 at 08:41 PM

Our condo HOA does not have a "HD" sat dish. Just glad we can get as many channels and good reception as we do!

Mexicorn - 6-24-2010 at 08:53 PM

My Dish rig has gone on the fritz twice in one week it goes through a transponder check for no reason it seems. Soon after it acts right. Is this because of the Sat change?

Corney-

BCSTech - 6-25-2010 at 07:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mexicorn
My Dish rig has gone on the fritz twice in one week it goes through a transponder check for no reason it seems. Soon after it acts right. Is this because of the Sat change?

Corney-

Hard to say. You may have something wrong with your setup; LNB going bad, antenna mis adjusted, corrosion in the cables, etc. Post your location, dish size and your TP signal levels, or send them by U2U, and I'll take a look.

BCSTech - 6-25-2010 at 07:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Udo
This was pretty easy, y'all!

Long 34.210074
Lat. 117.130336

Numbers:
1-8=0
9-16=0
17-21=0
22=79
23=0
24=79
25=95
26=79
27=85
28=77
29=0
30=81
31=60
32=83

Como esta eso, Alan?

Sorry, Udo, didn't notice you had asked me a question. Those are odd readings for the 119°. Are you using an "FTA-type" receiver? On the 119° satellite, Dish Network only uses TPs 1-21 and you show 0 signal there. DirecTV uses the TPs from 22 thru 32. Otherwise, you may have been looking at the TP levels from the 110° satellite, not the 119°?

[Edited on 6-25-2010 by BCSTech]

Udo - 6-25-2010 at 08:06 AM

Alan, my receiver is an HR22-100, HD DVR.

I am very certain that I switched the receiving satellite to 119, Alan.

I will run throught the set-up again, just to verify the settings. If they turn out different, I'll let you know.

BCSTech - 6-25-2010 at 02:34 PM

Readings this morning from a 1.8 meter (6') Mexican fiberglass copy of an Andrew antenna in Todos Santos:

01-05---0
06----55
07----39
08----37
09----41
10----42
11----48
12----51
13----44
14----43
15----57
16----52
17----45
18----52
19----55
20----52
21----57

comitan - 6-25-2010 at 02:47 PM

From another Blog.

Not since Mega put up a grocery store with an orange front; or Starbucks announced it was arriving in town; ditto Subway, has there been such an uproar in San Miguel. It started a month ago.

It was a quiet uproar that was carried out on the Civil List and by telephone. "Do you have Dish network service"? "No do you?" "Any channels?" "No, do you?"

Then the realization set in that although many expats had been paying for pirated service with a fictitious address, SOMETHING was wrong, terribly wrong.

Calls went out to the installer in San Miguel. He had no answers. Some called the tech support office of Dish. But, of course if your address was in NYC or Del Rio, or wherever, they had no clue what was wrong.

Well, it appears what IS wrong is that the satellite stopped functioning and another satellite was put into service. It does not, as I've been told but cannot verify, provide service to San Miguel any longer. I don't know but if Dish was anywhere else in Mexico, I wonder if it is gone there also.

It's like a nest of red ants has been knocked over. People are scurrying trying to find another service. Some people on the Civil list have been questioning the integrity of the installer - as if he could move a satellite! Isn't it interesting how people go into "attack mode" when they are angry and upset?

I've been on the sidelines watching and hearing all of this. I don't quite know what to make of it. The roar has subsided now. So I guess either people are getting used to talking to whoever they live with or they have found other means of recreation. Who knows?

BCSTech - 6-25-2010 at 05:56 PM

We've been getting calls and Emails from all over; San Miguel De Allende, Mexico City, Merida, Cancun, Cozumel, etc. Many people scrambling to restore TV service, installing larger dishes, pointing to other satellites, etc.

We even got a couple of calls from other dealers/installers out of the Yucatan peninsula looking for a solution to restore the "Big Four" networks (ABC, NBC, CBS and Fox). Turns out they were subscribing many customers in the area to the Local networks out of Miami on a spot beam. The spot beam went down with the the satellite swap so no more Miami networks.

BTW, we do have a cure for this, and we can set any Dish Network subscriber in Mexico or the US with either the standard-definition networks from SF and NY, or the HD networks from LA and Chicago, provided they have reception from the 119° or the 110° Send me a U2U if interested.

BCSTech - 6-25-2010 at 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by UdoAlan, my receiver is an HR22-100, HD DVR.

Ahhh, OK. That's a DirecTV receiver.

BCSTech - 6-25-2010 at 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by comitanThen the realization set in that although many expats had been paying for pirated service with a fictitious address, SOMETHING was wrong, terribly wrong.

Calls went out to the installer in San Miguel. He had no answers. Some called the tech support office of Dish. But, of course if your address was in NYC or Del Rio, or wherever, they had no clue what was wrong.

Amen to that...

[Edited on 6-26-2010 by BCSTech]

woody with a view - 1-6-2016 at 06:42 PM

we just signed up with Dish network. I want to bring (which one? main/joey) my receiver and LCD TV to BdeLA and get reception? which additional dish would I need to buy, and from whom? I could mount it and run the cables but all info on pointing it and anything else would be appreciated.

is BCStech still online? UDO? anyone, Buehler?

Udo - 1-6-2016 at 07:14 PM

Yes, Udo is still on line...but I have nothing to do with satellites, Woody.

woody with a view - 1-6-2016 at 08:43 PM

I thought I saw something from you regarding directv? maybe not!

BCSTech - 1-6-2016 at 09:33 PM

Hi Woody,

Yes, still here, but I've been far too busy up north to post much here lately.

You need to bring your Hopper. The Joeys won't work without the Hopper. B de LA has fairly decent signal reception for Dish Network's three main Western satellite. Locals are in a better position to confirm or deny:

110° (network channels & PPV) - 1.0 meter dish recommended
119° (bulk of cable channels) - Standard 50 cm dish such as Dish 1000.2. The Hopper will need this satellite to download the programming guide for the DVR.
129° (Lots of HD versions of 119's channels) - 70 cm dish recommended

[Edited on 1-7-2016 by BCSTech]

woody with a view - 1-7-2016 at 05:52 AM

thanks! can I buy a dish SOB that will work?

edit: I found the dish on Amazon Smile for $75.

[Edited on 1-7-2016 by woody with a view]

BCSTech - 1-7-2016 at 08:14 AM

The standard Dish 1000.2 dish, designed to pick up all three satellites should at least get you some basic reception from the 119°, although the Hopper will complain if the signal is weak from the 110° and 129° satellites.

You'll probably need to run the Switch Check function in the Installation menu so the receiver will know what it's connected to outside and configure itself accordingly.

Maybe someone from BoLA can help you set it up. Have you ever aimed a dish before? Jose in Loreto may be able to come up but it's a ways and you'd need to cover is travel time and expenses.

BajaUtah - 1-7-2016 at 08:15 AM

Alan

Can you give me the same satellite reccomendations for Los Barriles/La Ribera?

Are people receiving these signals with a single dish with multiple LNBs or are they using multiple single LNB units?

Thanks

BCSTech - 1-7-2016 at 08:27 AM

Los Barriles/La Ribera get two of the three sats, the 119°, with a 5' dish recommended, and the 129° with a 4' dish recommended. The 110° satellite is not available there.

There is also another satellite, the 77°, that gets about 80 Dish Channels in standard def using a single, small 50 cm dish, along with the "Big Five" network channels (ABC, NBC, CBS, FOX and PBS) in HD from the midwest. Requires a standard HD receiver with a new account and qualifying address.

The Hopper won't work with that small-dish system without the 119°.

HD channels

capitolkat - 1-7-2016 at 09:27 AM

alan-- I guess it's a good time for a question. I have the two large dishes and the small dish for hopper/joey use. when they were installed in La Paz about 18 months ago I got most if not all of the HD channels including ESPN HD and all the Sirius channels. about 6 months or so the HD channel for ESPN stopped receiving and automatically switched to the analog channel 140. Also, many of the Sirius channels (Bridge,Pulse, Blend etc.) flash the message for no signal. I got them all before, so something changed- do you have any suggestions? Thanks-- Norm

P.S.-- I got all the receivers from you and had your installer from Todos Santos do the install. N

[Edited on 1-7-2016 by capitolkat]

BajaUtah - 1-7-2016 at 12:27 PM

Quote: Originally posted by BCSTech

There is also another satellite, the 77°, that gets about 80 Dish Channels in standard def using a single, small 50 cm dish, along with the "Big Five" network channels (ABC, NBC, CBS, FOX and PBS) in HD from the midwest. Requires a standard HD receiver with a new account and qualifying address.

Thank you.

I have an existing Dish account from Utah. I assume that won't get me any locals. My plan was to bring down a 211z receiver mated to my account and then figure out sat dishes from there. Will just the 77 sat work with a 211z? I don't need lots of channels at this point in the game