My wife owns a fourplex apartment setup in Ensenada .. about 3 blocks from the McDonald's on Reforma, near the Limon shopping mall.
Until lately, this was to be our place to retire to ( or another house in Ensenada near Cicese ) .. however, we are concerned with the vilence we see
and read about in the news.
Our daughter in law , in Ensenada, has had a sister murdered about a year and a half ago there ..DENNIS - 6-28-2010 at 03:46 PM
You didn't mention the circumstances of your DiL's death. Was it a random killing?Bajahowodd - 6-28-2010 at 03:50 PM
Welcome to the forum. There are quite a few nomads that live in and around Ensenada. I'm sure they will give you their best assessment. As a frequent
visitor, my personal feeling is that crime in and around Ensenada is not something that should be a deal-breaker as far as deciding to live there. Any
city, anywhere in the world will have a certain level of crime. For the most part, Ensenada has avoided the widely reported bloodshed associated with
the drug cartel v. government war. It's nothing like Tijuana or Juarez. Not close.bajarah - 6-28-2010 at 03:52 PM
No .. she was killed intentionally .. It was in the local papers there ...noproblemo2 - 6-28-2010 at 03:55 PM
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Originally posted by bajarah
No .. she was killed intentionally .. It was in the local papers there ...
What were the circumstances of the "intentional" killing, must have some logic behind this.bajarah - 6-28-2010 at 04:05 PM
According to Ensenada PD and others, she was killed by persons she knew ... perhaps a jealousy thing ... cant go into more detail in case
investigation is still pending ... PD say they know who the perpetrators are .. not sure why they havent acted yet thoughBajaBlanca - 6-28-2010 at 04:16 PM
hmmmmm maybe take an extended vacation and sus it out first..... hard call ..... every city is dangerous to an extent .... we even had a crime here, a
serious murder attempt on a camper on the beach and we still dont know what really happened
we live in one of the most remote areas of southern Baja. we feel safe and love it here but, like I said, even our area got hit once. DENNIS - 6-28-2010 at 04:34 PM
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Originally posted by Bajahowodd
For the most part, Ensenada has avoided the widely reported bloodshed associated with the drug cartel v. government war. It's nothing like Tijuana or
Juarez. Not close.
Originally posted by Bajahowodd
That article was 6 1/2 years old. Geez.
It's all part of the same nightmare.KASHEYDOG - 6-28-2010 at 04:56 PM
OMG !!! Now we can't go to L.A. either??? Be afraid, be very afraid. I think I'm just going to go hide under the couch for the rest of my
life..........noproblemo2 - 6-28-2010 at 05:01 PM
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Originally posted by bajarah
According to Ensenada PD and others, she was killed by persons she knew ... perhaps a jealousy thing ... cant go into more detail in case
investigation is still pending ... PD say they know who the perpetrators are .. not sure why they havent acted yet though
Well then I believe you have your answer... The same type killings occur all over the world not just here.... It quite obviously was not related to
anything happening with the cartels nor a random act of violence....bajarah - 6-28-2010 at 05:08 PM
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Originally posted by Bajahowodd
That article was 6 1/2 years old. Geez.
bajarah - 6-28-2010 at 05:11 PM
Might have been that long ago but wife and I seem to think more like 4 years at the most ...years all seem to run together after a while heh bajarah - 6-28-2010 at 05:18 PM
Ensenada is fall back retirement place now ... wife has extensive family all over baja, sonora, chihuahua
Retire in a year and a half.
Yes we speak spanish
Ensenada seems to be quieter than tj or juarez for sure ...
I have been associated with ensenada for last 14 years .. wife for enough years where she doesn't want me to say .. she is dual citizenship ...
Now ... where can I place my RV in case there is somewhere else? ... heh
Anyway thanks for replies ...KASHEYDOG - 6-28-2010 at 05:18 PM
Thank you "NOPROBLEMO2" you're exactly right. So let's get on a positive note, cause I just this afternoon got back from the La Fonda Hotel south of
Rosarito Beach. Had a wonderful Sunday brunch for $13 yesterday with all the margatitas and bloody marys we wanted. Didn't see any violence. Mostly
cute school kids in their uniforms going to school as usual and parents going to work as usual. No line at the sentri lane @ 9 AM. On second thought
all you scardy cats stay under the couch and hide. I'm havin' a great time without you. DanO - 6-28-2010 at 05:52 PM
There is much more of a police/army presence in Ensenada and environs than in the past, which I don't particularly mind. My biggest complaint is the
worsening traffic. Northbound south of town this past Saturday was the pits. Didn't detract, however, from my always happy Tacos Los Poblanos
experience.noproblemo2 - 6-28-2010 at 05:53 PM
Next time try the brunch at Cantiles, $5.95 all you can eat, $2.00 Mimosas, $1.75 Bloody Marys..... Great deal and Isaah is the wonderful ownerbajaguy - 6-28-2010 at 09:18 PM
bajarah ....we have our retirement place in Ensenada. Looked at several locations and settled on Ensenada for a variety of reasons.
You will like it, plenty of things to do like the upcoming two week Ensenada Wine Festival.
Maybe we can get together for a cold one (or two)fishabductor - 6-28-2010 at 09:57 PM
bajaguy...
"We sleep safely in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence upon those who would do us harm........George Orwell"
Isn't this a quote by Winston Churchill?
Sorry to Hijack...but I always liked the quotemotoged - 6-28-2010 at 10:11 PM
Wikipedia sez:
"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."
* Alternative: "We sleep safely at night because rough men stand ready to visit violence on those who would harm us."
* In his 1945 "Notes on Nationalism", Orwell claimed that the statement, "Those who ‘abjure’ violence can only do so because others are committing
violence on their behalf" was a "grossly obvious" fact. "Notes on Nationalism"
* Notes: allegedly said by George Orwell although there is no evidence that Orwell ever wrote or uttered either of these versions of this idea.
They do bear some similarity to comments made in an essay that Orwell wrote on Rudyard Kipling, when quoting from one of his poems. Orwell did write,
in his essay on Kipling, that the latter's "grasp of function, of who protects whom, is very sound. He sees clearly that men can only be highly
civilized while other men, inevitably less civilized, are there to guard and feed them." (1942)
o "Yes, making mock o' uniforms that guard you while you sleep" - Rudyard Kipling (Tommy)
o "I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom that I
provide, then questions the manner in which I provide it." - Aaron Sorkin (A Few Good Men)
* Alternative: "We sleep soundly in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm." -
Winston Churchill (miscellaneous quotation, no date)bajarah - 6-30-2010 at 02:49 PM
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Originally posted by KASHEYDOG
Really and the shootings happened 12 years ago. How many killings have there been in southern California since then ???
bajarah - 6-30-2010 at 02:50 PM
hi
daughter in law is coming to visit friday asked when her sister was murderd ... was 2 years ago]Bajahowodd - 6-30-2010 at 03:59 PM
It's impossible for anyone, who has never encountered it, to totally comprehend the emotions associated with the loss of a loved one that is the
victim of either random or unforeseeable violence. However, if you, bajarah, seriously want advice on whether to consider Ensenada as a choice for
retirement, the simple truth is that you must keep that tragedy out of the equation. On the other hand, if that awful incident weighs heavily on you,
then clearly Ensenada is not an option for you.
