BajaNomad - Self Home protection

Self Home protection

Russ - 7-16-2010 at 05:55 PM

I've read all kinds of stuff on how to protect your self and what is legal. Never crossed my mind to use Wasp spray. Heck, you could have it on the seat in the truck and no one would question you. Here's what I just received:

For those who would not shoot an assailant with a firearm, try this!
Personally, I'm not shy about expeditiously inviting an unwanted intruder to meet Jesus!

Subject: Wasp Spray

I know some of you own GUNS but this is something to think about...---

If you don't have a gun, here's a more humane way to wreck someone's evil plans for you. Did you know this? I didn't. I never really thought of it before. I guess I can get rid of the baseball bat.

Wasp Spray - A friend who is a receptionist in a church in a high risk area was concerned about someone coming into the office on Monday to rob them when they were counting the collection. She asked the local police department about using pepper spray and they recommended to her that she get a can of wasp spray instead.

The wasp spray, they told her, can shoot up to twenty feet away and is a lot more accurate, while with the pepper spray, they have to get too close to you and could overpower you. The wasp spray temporarily blinds an attacker until they get to the hospital for an antidote. She keeps a can on her desk in the office and it doesn't attract attention from people like a can of pepper spray would. She also keeps one nearby at home for home protection. Thought this was interesting and might be of use.

On the heels of a break in and beating that left an elderly woman in Toledo dead, self defense experts have a tip that could save your life.

Val Glinka teaches self-defense to students at Sylvania Southview High School . For decades, he's suggested putting a can of wasp and hornet spray near your door or bed.

Glinka says, "This is better than anything I can teach them."

Glinka considers it inexpensive, easy to find, and more effective than mace or pepper spray. The cans typically shoot 20 to 30 feet; so if someone tries to break into your home, Glinka says "spray the culprit in the eyes". It's a tip he's given to students for decades.

It's also one he wants everyone to hear. If you're looking for protection, Glinka says look to the spray. "That's going to give you a chance to call the police; maybe get out." Maybe even save a life.

Please share this with all the people who are precious to your life

Did you also know that wasp spray will kill a snake? And a mouse! It will! Good to know, huh? It will also kill a wasp.!!!!

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fishabductor - 7-16-2010 at 07:01 PM

Thanks Russ. I will be buying this for sure and putting around the house and the cars. Great Idea!!

Guess this is where you found the above post.

http://urbanlegends.about.com/od/crime/a/wasp_spray.htm

[Edited on 7-17-2010 by fishabductor]

woody with a view - 7-16-2010 at 07:13 PM

oldie but goodie.....

Udo - 7-16-2010 at 07:17 PM

Thanks for the tip, Russ!

Russ - 7-16-2010 at 07:23 PM

I got it E-mailed to me.

Alan - 7-16-2010 at 11:20 PM

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Originally posted by fishabductor
Thanks Russ. I will be buying this for sure and putting around the house and the cars. Great Idea!!

Guess this is where you found the above post.

http://urbanlegends.about.com/od/crime/a/wasp_spray.htm

[Edited on 7-17-2010 by fishabductor]

I'm confused :?:

You post a link that states this is a farce but that you still plan to stock up???

Woooosh - 7-16-2010 at 11:50 PM

This part of that article wasn't encouraging... who wants to test it?

"To my knowledge, no one has ever tested or documented the effectiveness of insecticide sprays for self-defense.

One reader who accidentally received a dose of wasp spray while using it around his home told me he was surprised at how little irritation he felt. "A gust of wind caused a good splash of the spray to come right back into my right eye," he wrote. "I panicked and started to run to a source of water, only to find there was no adverse reaction at all, no more than being squirted with a water pistol. It took me at least ten seconds to get to the water, and I rinsed it off, and never felt anything from it."

I FOUND THIS ON SNOPES

ELINVESTIG8R - 7-17-2010 at 03:50 AM

http://www.snopes.com/crime/prevent/waspspray.asp

I have had this stuff in my truck since 2007 when I go to see Mama. I may have to reconsider and get pepper spray. Is pepper spray legal for US Citizens to carry in Mexico?

Russ - 7-17-2010 at 05:24 AM

It seemed like a good thing but I guess if it's going to pee someone off when tthey're intending to do yo wrong it may not be the thing to use. I THINK there is bear spay to shoots out some distance. May wrap it is a wasp label would avoid any hassles south of the boarder.
http://www.thehomesecuritysuperstore.com/pepper-spray-mace-b...

ELINVESTIG8R - 7-17-2010 at 05:32 AM

Russ,

Thanks for the link on Bear spray. If it works on bears I would hope it will give you enough time to get away from a human attacker. A 35 feet spraying distance is a long way.

monoloco - 7-17-2010 at 06:59 AM

How about a can of that wasp spray, I think it sprays about 30 feet and is available at Home Depot. I'm sure a shot of that stuff in the face would slow down an attacker.

Mexicorn - 7-17-2010 at 07:24 AM

Dear Atacker;
Hold still whilest I deploy my handy dandy wasp spray into your eyes.
Now open your eyes and hold still from 35 feet so I can hit you with this stuff.

Personally I'd have a better chance of brining Mel Gibson with me to ward off any attacks.

Is Mel staying at Club Mareno during this fiasco?

fishabductor - 7-17-2010 at 07:26 AM

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Originally posted by Alan

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I'm confused :?:

You post a link that states this is a farce but that you still plan to stock up???

I also read about 10 other sites about wasp spray, and it may not be legal to use on people. However, I'll take that chance. Including http://www.snopes.com/crime/prevent/waspspray.asp.

The other sites said this stuff can kill, or permently blind the victim of the spray.

I posted the site because it is word for word what Russ originally posted.

[Edited on 7-17-2010 by fishabductor]

fishabductor - 7-17-2010 at 07:32 AM

I have bear spray and it is some bad stuff. Totally illegal in Mexico and CA as well. It's legal in states with bears. It is legal in WA, ID, MT, AK, and WY for sure.

I have used it on bad dogs, and they basically stop, drop and roll as they howl in pain. You would not want to use this in your house it is for outside only.

when I lived in MT we had a customer at the flyfishing/backpacking store I worked at while in college, accidently shoot one off for about a 1 second blast. We had to shut the store down for a week, until the place aired out.
Everyone in the store breathed the stuff and it hurt like hell.

This stuff is 2.5 times stronger than what the cops carry.

The best part is that it dies the attacker orange and it takes about a week to were off. If the guy in BV had this he could have hosed down all 4 and then went to work with his boot.

Bob and Susan - 7-17-2010 at 07:36 AM

yea...let's use wasp spray

[Edited on 7-17-2010 by Bob and Susan]

fishabductor - 7-17-2010 at 07:40 AM

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Originally posted by Bob and Susan
yea...let's use wasp spray

[Edited on 7-17-2010 by Bob and Susan]

Don't get me wrong a firearm would definately be my weapon of choice.

here is the ticket... Legal in Mexico...I spoke with the dealer yesterday. It can be shipped anywhere in Mexico.

It is a 50cal airrifle.

http://www.co2airgunsmexico.com.mx/product_info.php?cPath=14...

The site also has 9mm, 45ca, 25cal and 22cal guns.

[Edited on 7-17-2010 by fishabductor]

DENNIS - 7-17-2010 at 07:45 AM

In the WW-2 movies, I used to like watching the gawd-awful damage that could be done with a flame thrower.
Maybe, by adding a little bit of pressure and messing with the nozzle on one of these, you could have a flame thrower of your own:

http://www.flameengineering.com/Red_Dragon_Propane_Torch_K.h...

fishabductor - 7-17-2010 at 07:52 AM

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Originally posted by DENNIS
In the WW-2 movies, I used to like watching the gawd-awful damage that could be done with a flame thrower.
Maybe, by adding a little bit of pressure and messing with the nozzle on one of these, you could have a flame thrower of your own:

http://www.flameengineering.com/Red_Dragon_Propane_Torch_K.h...

When I was in Jr. high in science class, we had a large class and there were not enough wall mounted bunsen burners to go around. So the teacher set up a couple with the propane canisters used for soldering torches.

when cranked up these would shoot about 10 feet. I got suspended for 3 days for burning the hair off the rightside of one of my classmakes about 8' away! The classroom sure did stink with all that burned hair!! :lol:

dennis, to make a flame thrower with that you'd just need to remove the regulator, and straight line the gas. maybe enlarge the tip diameter a hair.

DENNIS - 7-17-2010 at 07:55 AM

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Originally posted by fishabductor
dennis, to make a flame thrower with that you'd just need to remove the regulator, and straight line the gas. maybe enlarge the tip diameter a hair.

WOW....Sounds a lot like the BP disaster. Would the torch valve be able to hold the pressure?

Bajafun777 - 7-17-2010 at 08:13 AM

Just carry a stun gun and it will let you take care of those trying to victimize you. You can get them to look like cell phones or other lesser noticed things. However, they will put your attacked down just by touching them. They are legal in California and many other States and again it allows you to get away and puts them down while your doing it,. Be sure and get the one that puts out close to 900,000 units of pain for the attacker, which ensures you get some kind of pain for your efforts passed on the your attacker,LOL. Is it legal in Mexico, well I have seen several down here just as I have seen pepper spray on keyholders. Get the cell phone one and stop 2nd guessing yourself but stay safe. It's not like the crook who is trying to do you harm is going to get too much help from police that probably have dealt with the jerk many times before. Later----------------------- bajafun777

fishabductor - 7-18-2010 at 04:45 PM

can you buy tazers in Baja?

DENNIS - 7-18-2010 at 05:06 PM

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Originally posted by fishabductor
can you buy tazers in Baja?

Nobody really knows. You'll get a lot of guesses though.

Around ten years ago, I saw Stun Guns for sale in the gift shop at Rodriguez Intl Airport in Tijuana.
A lot of things have changed since then so, who knows?

MsTerieus - 7-18-2010 at 05:49 PM

Wasp spray sounds like a handy weapon. But I am wondering about how it (and a few other suggested weapons) would work in a home-invasion situation. Say I'm home alone. Intruder breaks in. I spray him with wasp spray (or pepper spray), or I even stun him with a stun gun or baseball bat. THEN WHAT? If I don't finish him off (which I either could not or would be afraid to do), then there he is, on my living room floor, and there I am. If I run away from him, he has my house and possessions to himself. If I stick around, he wakes up ... MAD. I guess I could hit him again, but if the police are not going to come to save me any time soon, what then??? :?:

Udo - 7-18-2010 at 05:57 PM

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The most legal flame thrower I have ever encountered is a can of WD40 and a cigarette lighter...whhooom!
good for about 10 feet.

ELINVESTIG8R - 7-18-2010 at 06:06 PM

MsTerieus, Once the attacker is down down or stopped run like hell to where other people are fast and call police!

MsTerieus - 7-18-2010 at 06:12 PM

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Originally posted by ELINVESTIG8R
MsTerieus, Once the attacker is down down or stopped run like hell to where other people are fast and call police!

Well, OK. But that doesn't do a very good job of 'home protection,' which was in the title of this thread -- -- especially if Mr. Intruder had friends waiting outside.
:?:

On another note: How come this board is saying that I'm posting early in the morning, when it's 6:15 PST?

[Edited on 7-19-2010 by MsTerieus]

bajaguy - 7-18-2010 at 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MsTerieus
Wasp spray sounds like a handy weapon. But I am wondering about how it (and a few other suggested weapons) would work in a home-invasion situation. Say I'm home alone. Intruder breaks in. I spray him with wasp spray (or pepper spray), or I even stun him with a stun gun or baseball bat. THEN WHAT? If I don't finish him off (which I either could not or would be afraid to do), then there he is, on my living room floor, and there I am. If I run away from him, he has my house and possessions to himself. If I stick around, he wakes up ... MAD. I guess I could hit him again, but if the police are not going to come to save me any time soon, what then??? :?:

If I get somebody in my house and when he goes down, he is not gonna wake up....and somebody will find a surprise on the beach or in a dumpster

MsTerieus - 7-18-2010 at 06:17 PM

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Originally posted by bajaguy
If I get somebody in my house and when he goes down, he is not gonna wake up....and somebody will find a surprise on the beach or in a dumpster

LOL -- but I have a bad back and am not strong enough to drag a guy out of my house, much less, throw him in a dumpster!

Doesn't Baja have a law analogous to those in the US regarding the right to defend oneself within the walls of one's "castle"?

bajaguy - 7-18-2010 at 06:19 PM

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Originally posted by MsTerieus

LOL -- but I have a bad back and am not strong enough to drag a guy out of my house, much less, throw him in a dumpster!

Doesn't Baja have a law analogous to those in the US regarding the right to defend oneself within the walls of one's "castle"?

"Gee Officer, I just came home from (fill in the blank) and found this dead guy in my kitchen"..............

ELINVESTIG8R - 7-18-2010 at 06:25 PM

There is truly no 100% guarantee that someone can't get into your house no matter how fortified you think it is. Just be ready to overcome your adversary and fast and run out as fast as you can and call police. If someone breaks into your home it's not to ask you to have cookies and milk. They are there to do you harm. Kill them because you are in fear of losing your life. That is the bottom line. You were afraid they were going to kill you and you articulate that to the police. Such as he was coming toward me and reaching into his waistband, etc.

David

PS: Never move a body as investigators will know it's a staged crime scene.

MsTerieus - 7-18-2010 at 06:33 PM

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Originally posted by ELINVESTIG8R
There is truly no 100% guarantee that someone can't get into your house no matter how fortified you think it is. Just be ready to overcome your adversary and fast and run out as fast as you can and call police. If someone breaks into your home it's not to ask you to have cookies and milk. They are there to do you harm. Kill them because you are in fear of losing your life. That is the bottom line. You were afraid they were going to kill you and you articulate that to the police. Such as he was coming toward me and reaching into his waistband, etc.

David

PS: Never move a body as investigators will know it's a staged crime scene.

David -- maybe you know: Would I not have the right to kill an intruder in my home, simply because he had broken into my home, as I believe would be the case in CA?

ELINVESTIG8R - 7-18-2010 at 06:38 PM

No you have to be in fear of losing your life that is why I say to you to tell police he was coming toward you at a fast pace and reaching into his waistband. You though he was pulling out a gun or a knife and killed him because you did not want to be killed by the intruder.

MsTerieus - 7-18-2010 at 06:41 PM

Thanks, ElInvestigator, for the sage advice!

desertcpl - 7-18-2010 at 06:49 PM

as I understand Arizona laws,, if some one comes into your house you can shot them period no questions asked,
if they are in your yard outside you cant not, only if you think they are acting in a threating matter.

I have read this happen here in yuma, some one comes into your house at night,, good bye

Udo - 7-18-2010 at 06:52 PM

There is a reason Elinvestig8r is who he is :bounce:

ELINVESTIG8R - 7-18-2010 at 06:52 PM

Your welcome. Just get in the habit of locking your door every time you come inside from the outside and ensure that all windows and doors are locked, especially before retiring for the evening. Physically check them to make sure the lock is properly seated in the lock. Also have lights with sensors on the outside of your house set to go off if someone walks by.

MsTerieus - 7-18-2010 at 06:54 PM

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Originally posted by desertcpl
as I understand Arizona laws,, if some one comes into your house you can shot them period no questions asked,
if they are in your yard outside you cant not, only if you think they are acting in a threating matter.

I have read this happen here in yuma, some one comes into your house at night,, good bye

The part about shooting anybody who enters your house, uninvited, IS the law in many states. "A man's home is his castle," is the quote I believe at least one Court has used in upholding such a law. However, I believe that not all states have this law; I believe some have the same law as Baja apparently does (per El Investigator).

As for the yard: I believe the law requires you to attempt to withdraw into your house before using a weapon on an intruder, at least in CA.

[Edited on 7-19-2010 by MsTerieus]

ELINVESTIG8R - 7-18-2010 at 06:58 PM

I personally would not just Willy-Nilly shoot someone because they are in my house. Unless I saw them armed of course. Some times drunks accidentally come into unlocked houses mistakenly thinking they are in their home. I would not want to shoot that type of person.

MsTerieus

bajaguy - 7-18-2010 at 07:01 PM

Check your u2u

ELINVESTIG8R - 7-18-2010 at 07:02 PM

Let's all put our collective heads in the sand like ******. I know what I am talking about. I just tell it like it is. ****** if you don't like my advice please don't take it.

Edit: To delete names!

[Edited on 7-20-2010 by ELINVESTIG8R]

bajaguy - 7-18-2010 at 07:06 PM

I take the same precautions in the States as I do in Baja. In the states, I carry a Glock 23, .40 caliber. In Baja, I improvise.

I am not paranoid, I am prepared.

torch - 7-18-2010 at 07:06 PM

My first line of defense is an air horn. I've told all of my neighbors if the horn goes off to come check it out. I've also conditioned (antaganized) sp
my local dog pack (8 dogs) to seek out the sound which gets them in a frenzy. I also have a few next lines of defense at my close disposal.

ELINVESTIG8R - 7-18-2010 at 07:08 PM

I would never shoot anyone in my yard unless they were armed and pointing the firearm at me in my house. Just be careful about that too because they could be police officers in civilian clothing in "Hot Pursuit of a fugitive bad guy.

ELINVESTIG8R - 7-18-2010 at 07:11 PM

Above all else never shoot at someone in the dark as they could be a family member.

desertcpl - 7-18-2010 at 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MsTerieus

Quote:

Originally posted by desertcpl
as I understand Arizona laws,, if some one comes into your house you can shot them period no questions asked,
if they are in your yard outside you cant not, only if you think they are acting in a threatening matter.

I have read this happen here in yuma, some one comes into your house at night,, good bye

mtgoat666 - 7-18-2010 at 07:21 PM

all you tough guys: if you kill someone who is not a threat to you, you have commited murder. you may not be be prosecuted, but you will go to h3ll.
while today you thrust out your chest and boast how you will murder any intruder, you got no idea what the consequences are.
if you had half a brain you would threaten the intruder to scare them away, and then go back to bed.

mtgoat666 - 7-18-2010 at 07:24 PM

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Originally posted by ELINVESTIG8R
Above all else never shoot at someone in the dark as they could be a family member.

people who shoot at shadows in the dark usually are shooting at their neighbors or family.
there is a reason that fools should not be allowed to own guns.

wessongroup - 7-18-2010 at 07:38 PM

I know how to solve this problem.. we need a check list form which you commit to memory, plus you must call the police before you shoot... and check with them before you respond.. they might suggest an alternate means.. you know.. moderate threat... just has a small knife.. you use a length of rope with a knot in it... larger knife.. num chucks.. you get the idea..

Sort of a the same kind of controls our troops operate under over there in Afghanistan and a few other places.. "rules of engagement"

Hell, everyone should be able to agree to that one... as our troops operate under those rules with folks shooting various types of weapons at them... and they must call and ask if they can respond.. with force of course... what else .. marshmallows...

There... now you should feel safe.. just call the police and ask them what you should do.. I'm sure that will take care of the situation...

bajaguy - 7-18-2010 at 07:41 PM

Yeah, and we can all go the the Neville Chamberlin school of self defense

wessongroup - 7-18-2010 at 07:45 PM

:lol:

ain't it the truth

Sheep, Wolves and Sheepdogs

bajaguy - 7-18-2010 at 07:51 PM

Good reading, says it all.........

http://www.gleamingedge.com/mirrors/onsheepwolvesandsheepdog...

ELINVESTIG8R - 7-18-2010 at 07:59 PM

Bajaguy great write up on the subject! Thanks for sharing. A few of us in here are Sheepdogs. Many more are Sheep and I'm afraid to say it but their might just be a Wolf or two in here too. I hope you sheep never have to meet a Wolf.

lofty - 7-18-2010 at 08:09 PM

I spent over 10 sailing around the world on private sailing boats, the best solution that we could come up with for keeping local indigenous people from coming aboard in the wee hours of the night to "borrow stuff" was the humble "Thum Tack". If spread in the appropriate area in the up right position it can catch any bare foot person unaware. It was very effictive. In the morning you simply use a magnet to pick them up. :lol:

Over the years we heard many a screaming man jump over board and swim of into the night.

Shooting Intruders

MrBillM - 7-18-2010 at 08:12 PM

While it's generally true that the presumption is always on your side (in the U.S.) when there's an intruder IN your house, worth considering is the advice I heard given by a self-defense author once on Roger Hedgec-ck's show in San Diego.

"Always fire three shots. The first two center-mass and the third into the ceiling. When the police ask if you tried to warn the intruder, say yes and point to the hole in the ceiling".

BajaGringo - 7-18-2010 at 08:22 PM

I liked the advice given to me by a Rosarito Beach cop years ago. It went something like this:

Keep an unregistered gun in the house but don't tell anybody you have it. Only use it if you feel really threatened; for example an intruder entering your home. Shoot to kill, not to wound. After you are sure he is dead by firing a couple of shots close range into his body, fire a couple more shots around the room and drop the gun near the body. Call the cops and tell them the intruder was armed, you fought for control of the gun and he ended up dead.

Stay firm when questioned, never change your story even if pressured and you will come out fine.

Always sounded like pretty good advice to me...

schwlind - 7-18-2010 at 11:56 PM

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Originally posted by bajaguy
Good reading, says it all.........

http://www.gleamingedge.com/mirrors/onsheepwolvesandsheepdog...

Terry... thanks for sharing this!

Linda

wessongroup - 7-19-2010 at 04:56 AM

Another add on... security camera.. especially on the outside..

Affords one the ability to see the outside area, without opening the door..

Can be wireless or wired.. and one can have it set up to to detect motion, and will start recording.. onto either a HD or to a SD card... giving a record of who, what, how and all the rest.. with a digital record of the individual and/or individuals you have a pretty good record of events..

They have the ability to send and receive audio, so you can use for entry... rather than open a door.. for Ladies living out a ways from things.. it may give that little extra bit of security which makes one "feel" a little bit better.. as you would not have to open the door to ask or answer questions

Plus they can be "logged" onto from anywhere in the world by a web browser ... to "see" what is going on at the homestead.. and they will send you an email if detection of movement is signaled..

Just another tool, which may be of use, in the Baja to protect you and your property..

http://wessongroup.viewnetcam.com/CgiStart?page=Single&L...

Check it out.. this is from the upper patio looking out toward the ocean .. the tub thing is our fire ring for fires at night..

user ID is bajanomads
password: 111111

Some browsers will ask for your email.. disregard and enter the user ID, then the password..

Have set a 5 min limit for viewing..

The smudges are actually scratches, I dropped it when setting it on the rail and scratched the clear dome cover over the internal lens.. sorry, but think you can get the idea

[Edited on 7-19-2010 by wessongroup]

ELINVESTIG8R - 7-19-2010 at 05:03 AM

Wessongroup good advice on video system.

Video Systems

bajaguy - 7-19-2010 at 06:01 AM

http://www.supercircuits.com/

ELINVESTIG8R - 7-22-2010 at 05:12 AM

http://www.filexoom.com/showfile-21227/shotgun2.wav

As promised here is the sound of a shotgun chambering a shotgun round.

To get it just click on the link and wait 60 seconds (Commercial break time) then download it on your computer.

EDIT: To say thank you to that unnamed Nomad who lead me in the right direction to Get-R-Done. You know who you are. Thanks!

[Edited on 7-22-2010 by ELINVESTIG8R]

MsTerieus - 7-22-2010 at 01:02 PM

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Originally posted by ELINVESTIG8R
http://www.filexoom.com/showfile-21227/shotgun2.wav

As promised here is the sound of a shotgun chambering a shotgun round.

Thanks, El. It seemed a bit high-pitched. Is that really waht c-cking a rifle sounds like? (Maybe a SMALL rifle??)

ELINVESTIG8R - 7-22-2010 at 01:17 PM

MsTerieus, That is the real sound of a shotgun chambering a round!

Osprey - 7-24-2010 at 12:34 PM

Finally some good news about weapons in Mexico. I got on line and was able to find out there are substantial rewards from the U.S. and Mexican governments for information leading to the arrest of people in Mexico in possession of illegal arms and ammunition. I'm talkin' MAJOR MONEY. I had no idea how many Mexicans and gringos have guns south of the border, hide them in their vehicles, have them in their homes. You can get in on this big dough. Just u2u me your names, addresses and the information about the arms, the suspects and I'll put you in touch with the authorities for your share of the reward. Wow! This could be great.

Timo1 - 7-24-2010 at 12:58 PM

I'm with you on this one Osprey
weed em out !!!

DENNIS - 7-24-2010 at 01:14 PM

You mean to say there's a bounty on people with arms?
Oh Oh....I'm in trouble. I have two.
What about legs?

ELINVESTIG8R - 7-24-2010 at 02:01 PM

I'm sure there are good law abiding people who have guns for their self protection only. Don't snitch them off. Remember there was Jesus Christ who was a good person and was subsequently snitched off by one of his own. He was then killed. How soon you forget!

Crusading Gringo

Dave - 7-24-2010 at 02:07 PM

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Originally posted by Osprey
Finally some good news about weapons in Mexico. I got on line and was able to find out there are substantial rewards from the U.S. and Mexican governments for information leading to the arrest of people in Mexico in possession of illegal arms and ammunition. I'm talkin' MAJOR MONEY. I had no idea how many Mexicans and gringos have guns south of the border, hide them in their vehicles, have them in their homes. You can get in on this big dough. Just u2u me your names, addresses and the information about the arms, the suspects and I'll put you in touch with the authorities for your share of the reward. Wow! This could be great.

There's nothing that Mexicans appreciate more than foreigners meddling in their affairs.

I'm sure they'll applaud your efforts.

Especially the ones with firearms.