BajaNomad - Attempted Burglary Saturday Night, Rosarito

Attempted Burglary Saturday Night, Rosarito

Gypsy Jan - 7-21-2010 at 01:37 PM

A report from Mr. GJ, “About 12:00 pm, Sunday morning, the alarm went off at our neighbour’s house. It rang for a good 30 minutes, and I was about to get dressed and go turn it off and reset it. I have done this before with our dog; I turn the dog loose inside to do a quick search of the house. The dog is trained to corner any person encountered then start barking.
The alarm company called and asked me if I would check the house. I replied that the house was not on fire, but it was their job to do the security check. I told them that a work crew has been in and out recently and may have left something out of place.

I went back to bed. Half-an- hour later, our dog came and woke me quietly. He usually wakes me punctually at dawn, so I could not figure out why he wanted me up at 2:00 am. I get up and head out, and I notice the door to the guest room was quietly closing. It was about the last 6” of closing when I noticed the handle moving and closing quietly. I looked inside and saw nothing, so I went back to bed.

Next day, a neighbour told me that a man had come from our property headed towards hers; they yelled for help from someone else. The prowler turned around and ran back across our property and disappeared into the darkness.
In the daylight, I discovered that two of my patio doors had been jimmied.

During the interview with the police, I learned that there has been a string of robberies in the area. They think it is a gang of three or four men and that they work in teams; if the alarm for one house goes off they proceed to rob other houses while the residents are distracted and upset about the alarms.”

(NOTE: Mr. GJ commented that I had made this report “not as scary” as the event was and that it didn’t reflect the terror we felt when we realized the extent of what had happened, or how mad we were and still are at ourselves in being so slow on the uptake and reacting to what did and what else could have happened to us. Trust me- we are kicking ourselves in our collective butts about that.)

DENNIS - 7-21-2010 at 01:41 PM

Glad no one was hurt, Jan. Sounds as though it was a learning experience. Be careful.

noproblemo2 - 7-21-2010 at 01:42 PM

Jan, just glad you guys are ok, still double check all doors and windows at night to be as safe as we can be. Sorry this happened to you both.

mtgoat666 - 7-21-2010 at 01:46 PM

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Originally posted by Gypsy Jan
I get up and head out, and I notice the door to the guest room was quietly closing. It was about the last 6” of closing when I noticed the handle moving and closing quietly. I looked inside and saw nothing, so I went back to bed.

do your doors and handles often move on their own?

seems like a moving door and handle turning on its own would register a thought such as "there must be a ghost or burglar behind that door!"

i think most of us would not have simply gone back to bed,...

wessongroup - 7-21-2010 at 01:49 PM

Glad you folks got away with only a scare... and we have just been discussing this issue.. about security and how to respond.. what timing..

noproblemo2 - 7-21-2010 at 02:17 PM

Yes, and this one is Norte, not in Sur

knuckles - 7-21-2010 at 03:13 PM

I don't think you can anticipate or plan a proper reaction to everything in life. You can call it fate or luck, however you want to look at it.

GJ....You are one of my favorite nomads and I am sure others feel the same. Glad you and your family are ok albeit shaken.

bajaguy - 7-21-2010 at 03:20 PM

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Originally posted by knuckles
I don't think you can anticipate or plan a proper reaction to everything in life. You can call it fate or luck, however you want to look at it.

Yes, you can plan for a response. Do something, never give up.

Luck favors the prerpared

ELINVESTIG8R - 7-21-2010 at 03:20 PM

I'm glad you guys are ok Gypsy Jan. Scary stuff.

noproblemo2 - 7-21-2010 at 03:23 PM

Yes, one can prepare for such things, but how you react when it happens is often not what you had planned to do...........

Keri - 7-21-2010 at 03:26 PM

Jan , so glad you are ok. Why didn't your dogs bark more.Did they know the robbers? Just a thought. k

bajaguy - 7-21-2010 at 03:30 PM

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Originally posted by noproblemo2
Yes, one can prepare for such things, but how you react when it happens is often not what you had planned to do...........

Any type of a response is better than a no response

Tbone - 7-21-2010 at 03:35 PM

Neighbors alarm going off, your door closing with the handle moving, your trusty dog (out of character) wakes you a 2:00AM. Too much wine or you don’t rattle easy. Glad your OK.

bajabass - 7-21-2010 at 03:35 PM

I'm glad all is well Jan. My house in La Mision was burglarized, along with many others. They caught the gentleman in a house in the ejido a month ago. Funny, no more burglaries since! Sure wish I had caught him

Cypress - 7-21-2010 at 03:43 PM

Tbone, :light:

KASHEYDOG - 7-21-2010 at 03:47 PM

" I get up and head out, and I notice the door to the guest room was quietly closing. It was about the last 6” of closing when I noticed the handle moving and closing quietly. I looked inside and saw nothing, so I went back to bed."

First of all, if this story is real I'm happy you are ok and nobody got hurt. :wow:

However, I find it hard to believe that you didn't investigate who closed the door and "so went went back to bed" :?:

Also no mention of anything being taken or moved :?:

Pretty strange for a "dog trained to corner a person" to be so meek under this condition.

Sorry , I find this hard to believe. No offence Gypsy Jan, if you have that dog around for a "TRAINED GUARD DOG" I hope you saved the receipt from when you bought him cause it's time to take him back. Wish I cound just go back to bed after knowing a stranger had just been within feet of my bed while I slept thruogh it all. Next time maybe you should leave cookies and milk for him. Pleasent dreams

noproblemo2 - 7-21-2010 at 03:58 PM

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Originally posted by bajaguy

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Originally posted by noproblemo2
Yes, one can prepare for such things, but how you react when it happens is often not what you had planned to do...........

Any type of a response is better than a no response

Very True............

noproblemo2 - 7-21-2010 at 04:00 PM

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Originally posted by KASHEYDOG
" I get up and head out, and I notice the door to the guest room was quietly closing. It was about the last 6” of closing when I noticed the handle moving and closing quietly. I looked inside and saw nothing, so I went back to bed."

First of all, if this story is real I'm happy you are ok and nobody got hurt. :wow:

However, I find it hard to believe that you didn't investigate who closed the door and "so went went back to bed" :?:

Also no mention of anything being taken or moved :?:

Unless as previously mentioned it was someone the dog knew and trusted. Not such an uncommon thing to happen nor believe.

KASHEYDOG - 7-21-2010 at 04:53 PM

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Unless as previously mentioned it was someone the dog knew and trusted. Not such an uncommon thing to happen nor believe.

Then why not find out WHO. But to " just go back to bed????
And if so, why post it here or anywhere if not to be just " piling on " to the media hysteria that is so popular now.

Sorry again if I'm wrong.

But I'm just having difficulty believing the story as told. I have trouble with the dog's response and just going back to bed and nothing disturbed. I too think we better check on how many shooter glasses there are in the sink.

[Edited on 7-21-10 by KASHEYDOG]

norte - 7-21-2010 at 04:57 PM

Maybe he was hoping for a night time visit.

No one goes back to bed after seing a dor close like that..... we need a new web site.....BAJA legends

knuckles - 7-21-2010 at 05:10 PM

I believe most dogs are pretty smart...Maybe the dog knew danger was very close by and took the appropiriate action to protect his people.

desertcpl - 7-21-2010 at 05:15 PM

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However, I find it hard to believe that you didn't investigate who closed the door and "so went went back to bed" :?:

Also no mention of anything being taken or moved :?:

well said,, I couldnt believe this either

KASHEYDOG - 7-21-2010 at 05:15 PM

Sorry a dog "trained to corner someone and start barking" doesn't respond to this situation with silence. :lol:

[Edited on 7-22-10 by KASHEYDOG]

DENNIS - 7-21-2010 at 05:43 PM

I think something was lost in the translation here. Jan, of all people, doesn't tell stories just to hear herself talk. Give her a chance to clarify things.

bajabass - 7-21-2010 at 06:16 PM

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Originally posted by DENNIS
I think something was lost in the translation here. Jan, of all people, doesn't tell stories just to hear herself talk. Give her a chance to clarify things.

I would have to agree on this one with you for sure!

noproblemo2 - 7-21-2010 at 06:19 PM

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Originally posted by bajabass

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Originally posted by DENNIS
I think something was lost in the translation here. Jan, of all people, doesn't tell stories just to hear herself talk. Give her a chance to clarify things.

I would have to agree on this one with you for sure!

And I will third that also

MsTerieus - 7-21-2010 at 06:28 PM

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Originally posted by knuckles
I believe most dogs are pretty smart...Maybe the dog knew danger was very close by and took the appropiriate action to protect his people.

Maybe the DOG leaned against the door, causing it to close. :light:

I agree -- let her explain before biting her head off. Geez! :no:

[Edited on 7-22-2010 by MsTerieus]

wessongroup - 7-21-2010 at 06:47 PM

She's in shell shock.. let her have a few belts.. after she and mr gypsy put out the Claymores.. on trip wires...

now that should wake the gardner up... next time in to water the flowers...

toneart - 7-21-2010 at 07:51 PM

Jan has lots of friends and credibility on the BajaNomad. Obviously she is shaken and is tending to other things (herself, hopefully). Give her time. She will return and explain.

DianaT - 7-21-2010 at 07:59 PM

Jan,
Just glad everyone is fine!

Do be careful

knuckles - 7-21-2010 at 08:31 PM

Now I am remembering why the Nomads scare me so.

Geez, the GJs have enough going on without people making judgements on their actions or that of their beloved pooches.

Be kind people.

KASHEYDOG - 7-22-2010 at 03:13 PM

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Originally posted by noproblemo2

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Originally posted by bajabass

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Originally posted by DENNIS
I think something was lost in the translation here. Jan, of all people, doesn't tell stories just to hear herself talk. Give her a chance to clarify things.

I would have to agree on this one with you for sure!

And I will third that also

OK,OK

I didn't mean to bite her head off. As I said in an eariler post "Im sorry if I'm wrong and I'm glad everyone is safe".

I'm just haveng trouble believing the story as told. I've never had the pleasure of meeting Gypsy Jan and I didn't know she is a woman. I can certainly understand either a woman or a man not wanting to confront an intruder. But I would think one would at least try to figure out who it was, freind or foe :?:

Maybe a quick look out the window??

As far as the trained guard dog..... friend or foe, it should bark when it hears any noise outside the house until it identifies who it is :?:

I thought that was the main purpose of having a dog, especially in Mexico

I didn't mean to be mean hearted by disbelieving her story. I'm just concerned about somebody posting a false story on "our" site for the purpose of either getting attention or piling on with the current media hype. "Our Baja" has suffered enough with out that kind of stuff going on. There are people shutting down business and destroying lives down there. This is seriuos stuff people :fire:

So Gypsy Jan talk to us. :yes:

Please accept my apologies if I misinterpreted your story.

OK, enough groveling and spreading of kindness. I'll now step down from the soap box and allow someone else to speak their mind :bounce:

The box is all yours.............. :saint:

[Edited on 7-22-10 by KASHEYDOG]

noproblemo2 - 7-22-2010 at 03:48 PM

GJ would NEVER start a false story here or anywhere, that is NOT who she is. If she says this happened then I for one believe her. She has always been honest and upfront with everyone here and is obviously quite shaken by the entire event.

KASHEYDOG - 7-22-2010 at 04:14 PM

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Originally posted by noproblemo2
GJ would NEVER start a false story here or anywhere, that is NOT who she is. If she says this happened then I for one believe her. She has always been honest and upfront with everyone here and is obviously quite shaken by the entire event.

Again, I never met her and I hope I'm wrong.
If I'am, I'll voluteer to go down on one of my precious few days off and help her install the motion dectector or alarm of her choice. Want to come over and help noproblemo2 ?? I'd love to meet any nomads down there. .. :yes:

Hey, what a great excuse for a party. "Gypsy Jan's first annual alarm party". I've got a bottle of tequila and a platter of carnitas to start with.... :bounce:

...Let's do it, for real. OK??

[Edited on 7-22-10 by KASHEYDOG]

wessongroup - 7-22-2010 at 04:16 PM

Like the sprit.. think UDT folks view stuff a bit different.. might be the training..

KASHEYDOG - 7-22-2010 at 04:20 PM

There' s one way for us to start fighting this problem. Everybody pitch in and help each other install alarms. WOW, how about that? Think of the number of parties we could all have and get to know each other while helping to protect all Nomads.......... :yes:

Bajafun777 - 7-22-2010 at 04:23 PM

I think they left out the parts that might get people too worried about coming down or living down here. I have a friend living in Baja Malibu and they have had several burglaries also, seems like some of the same situations. He has a security system and two german shepards that will make you wish you had picked another house. Top it off if he catches you as years in special operations in the service will probably make the dog situation seem a better choice,LOL. Lessen the odds by putting blocks or locks behind windows, sliding doors, use dead bolts to stop jimming issues and don't let others play, pet or feed your dog if you are counting on them as a guard dog. Glad nobody got hurt. My wife and I are living our dream staying for a number of months here in Las Gaviotas just up the road from Rosarito.
Again, everyone needs to think safety, walk around the place you are staying in, see where you know a teenager could climb and get in then harden the entry to prevent such break ins. Be Safe, Be Watchful, and then have all the FUN YOU CAN!!!

KASHEYDOG - 7-22-2010 at 04:24 PM

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Originally posted by noproblemo2
I'd be glad to, then we can move the party to my place and instal another one....
Edit for PS, I'll even put you up for the night here...... See, I don't hold grudges..

[Edited on 7-22-2010 by noproblemo2]

Thanks, noproblemo2................

noproblemo2 - 7-22-2010 at 04:41 PM

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Originally posted by KASHEYDOG

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Thanks, noproblemo2................

You're WELCOME :bounce:

wessongroup - 7-23-2010 at 11:50 AM

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Originally posted by KASHEYDOG
There' s one way for us to start fighting this problem. Everybody pitch in and help each other install alarms. WOW, how about that? Think of the number of parties we could all have and get to know each other while helping to protect all Nomads.......... :yes:

again, like the sprit...

KASHEYDOG - 7-23-2010 at 12:02 PM

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Originally posted by wessongroup

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again, like the sprit...

Thanks, wessongroup

Now all we have to do is get it started. Has anybody heard from Gypsy Jan??
I don't get a lot of time off, but I'm sure I can find enough to get her done and then adjust from there... :spingrin:

Are you in Rosarito too... :?:

[Edited on 7-23-10 by KASHEYDOG]

wessongroup - 7-23-2010 at 01:11 PM

Yep El Pescador.. south about 9 miles... however, I already have an alarm system on the entire house, security cameras (motion activated) , dog, and walls (12') with broken glass embedded in concrete on top, heavy wooden gate, steel entry door with a second door (which has a peep hole) .. with a 20' climb up the wall facing the ocean, and it has plant material growing on the wall which makes it very hard to climb.. and a fence on top of the wall.. and some interesting hand help devices some Nomads have shared with me..

Know all it takes is one individual who is determined and has "watched" what has been going on.. for a week or two ... but, don't think many are para military around here.. more a situation of oppourtunity.. from what I've been hearing..

Water supply inside and covered.. large tank which is back up to the normal water line which supplies the house.

Think your offer is a good one, and Gypsy Jan, could use some of your "thinking" on some of her issues.. there are others here too with really good experience on "how to keep" safe... and have help me in my thinking ...

One has some of that other type of thinking go away.. over the years.. and if your not dealing with it full time.. you just tend to lose the edge one needs to keep ...

And when you get really old.. and messed up... well it gets even harder.. bad eye sight, bad hearing, loss of mobility, loss of any strength..

How come they didn't teach about this stuff... or was this just another example of me not paying attention in class? :lol:

[Edited on 7-23-2010 by wessongroup]

noproblemo2 - 7-23-2010 at 01:20 PM

Maybe it was the aging 101 class we missed :lol:

KASHEYDOG - 7-23-2010 at 09:10 PM

THERE'S AN AGING 101 CLASS ????....... :?:

.... uh OH.. :wow:

noproblemo2 - 7-23-2010 at 09:25 PM

See we already forgot it :spingrin:

BajaGringo - 7-23-2010 at 10:13 PM

Forgot what???

:lol:

wessongroup - 7-24-2010 at 07:03 AM

:lol:

fishabductor - 7-24-2010 at 07:06 AM

Where GJ? Anyone heard from her? Is she all right?

noproblemo2 - 7-24-2010 at 07:40 AM

She'll be fine, just still in shock I imagine..

KASHEYDOG - 7-24-2010 at 08:12 AM

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Originally posted by noproblemo2
She'll be fine, just still in shock I imagine..

noproblemo2,
Have you actually seen and or talked with her since the incident?? I really hope she's OK. Maybe she can contact me for my offer when she's ready. My phone number is in my profile. I'd also like to get down there to meet with you soon.
Maybe have lunch. :yes:

[Edited on 7-24-10 by KASHEYDOG]

noproblemo2 - 7-24-2010 at 08:41 AM

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Originally posted by KASHEYDOG

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Originally posted by noproblemo2
She'll be fine, just still in shock I imagine..

[Edited on 7-24-10 by KASHEYDOG]

Check your U2U

noproblemo2 - 7-24-2010 at 08:42 AM

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Originally posted by KASHEYDOG

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Originally posted by noproblemo2
She'll be fine, just still in shock I imagine..

[Edited on 7-24-10 by KASHEYDOG]

Just give her some time, she'll be back here when she's ready.

schwlind - 7-24-2010 at 09:13 AM

We too are so happy nothing terrible happened to GJ and family.

Okay... okay... so I'm going to throw out some possibilities...

Perhaps the intruder went out a window in the guest bedroom before she checked it out, as I too don't think she would have just gone back to bed after seeing the guest bedroom door close, with the handle in motion without satisfying herself that no intruder was in their house...

or maybe the door handle was kind of stuck in some position... and air currents caused the door to close... also causing the "stuck" door handle to release to the normal position... ??????

I know I'm "reaching"... but there has to be more to this story than GJ was ready to tell...

Also... ditto what most have said about situational awareness, being careful and taking whatever preventative measures possible to protect yourself... whether you are in your own casa or out and about... Bad things happen everywhere... and our beloved Baja is certainly no exception...

Linda

[Edited on 7-24-2010 by schwlind]

noproblemo2 - 7-24-2010 at 09:18 AM

Linda I am in total agreement with all you have said....

toneart - 7-24-2010 at 10:58 AM

I would guess that Jan just doesn't want to draw attention right now. Let's give her some time and space. Respect her momentary absence from this forum. I would suggest that we pause with the prattle until she reemerges.

KASHEYDOG - 7-24-2010 at 02:16 PM

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Originally posted by toneart
I would guess that Jan just doesn't want to draw attention right now. Let's give her some time and space. Respect her momentary absence from this forum. I would suggest that we pause with the prattle until she reemerges.

I agree... :yes:

From what "noproblemo2" has told us, GJ is OK and is an fine upstanding person who wouldn't use this board for ulterior purposes as a had first addressed. Based on that, I'm willing to give her whatever time she needs to get some sence of security back in their lives. When she is ready I hope she'll take me up on my offer to help. Until then as "toneart" said "I suggest we pause with the prattle until she reemerges" :saint:

Hey Toneart. I like that word "prattle" can I have your permission to use it... :?:

http://www.referencecenter.com/ref/dictionary?invocationType...

I want to be a prattler and prattle once in a while. Isn't that what life is about. :bounce:

[Edited on 7-24-10 by KASHEYDOG]

Still Alive And Bit-----, Err, Kicking

Gypsy Jan - 7-24-2010 at 03:16 PM

Hi All, thanks for your many expressions of care and concern, public forum and private.

All your ideas and suggestions have been relayed to Mr. GJ, head of security and they are being duly taken into consideration.

Just one comment from this dog lover. Our dogs responded appropriately to the midnight rumble, but remember, alarms had been going off in different areas of our neighborhood and they had been barking at these noises for quite a while. The intruder that came into our house entered our guest room, underline guest room, and did not enter any other area of the house. The dogs have learned that strangers are welcome in that room and do not respond to noise in there. That is something we have to think about.

noproblemo2 - 7-24-2010 at 03:26 PM

Welcome back Jan!!!!!!!!!! :bounce:

DENNIS - 7-24-2010 at 04:21 PM

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Originally posted by Gypsy Jan
That is something we have to think about.

Yeah...for sure. This ain't the 50s. Be careful and vigilant up there, Jan.
Glad all is well.

toneart - 7-24-2010 at 04:34 PM

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Originally posted by KASHEYDOG

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I agree... :yes:

Hey Toneart. I like that word "prattle" can I have your permission to use it... :?:

http://www.referencecenter.com/ref/dictionary?invocationType...

I want to be a prattler and prattle once in a while. Isn't that what life is about. :bounce:

[Edited on 7-24-10 by KASHEYDOG]

OK Kasheydog...Jan's back now. Prattle away! We won't tattle or do battle. I was just trying to tell the cattle not to rattle the chattel.

:lol:

Welcome back Jan! Glad you are OK! :bounce:

elgatoloco - 7-24-2010 at 05:05 PM

Yikes! Gypsy and Mr. GJ so glad to hear you are OK. Such as it is. Hang in there.

noproblemo2 - 7-24-2010 at 05:13 PM

Ok KASHEYDOG, I'd like to hear your suggestions on alarm systems, must use solar, no phone lines, cell only, plus 4 cats that are very agile and a dog or two that are all insiders, have ordered a web cam to place for one area we feel we are vulnerable, just have to figure out what to do with it when it gets here, it will be on the WiFi system, you can U2U me if it is a lengthy reply, but others may also be intersted as well.

Iflyfish - 7-24-2010 at 05:29 PM

So sorry that this happened to you. That is pretty scarey stuff, I don't think one is ever prepared, even though one makes preparations.

Take good care of yourself, it sounds like this is a routine for these guys and that you are not a specific target but one of opportunity. Some condolence that is eh? Glad that he left and went no further than the guest bedroom, saved you all some more grief.

Iflyfishanditpeeesmeoffwhenbadthingshappentogoodpeople

KASHEYDOG - 7-24-2010 at 09:44 PM

:bounce:

WOOOO HOOOOO Gypsy Jan is back.

Seems I've set my self up for a challenge. Thanks to noproblemo2

and my big mouth.. :lol:

OK I'm up for it. I'd like to come down and meet all you guys. look at your properties and see what kind of challenge WE have here. There isnt going to be one soultion for all. I'm not an expert but have some experience in security measures. Just depends on if you want dead cooks on the outside of your property or inside... :lol:

Just kidding. We'll just do the much tamer systems that maim them for life..

OK, OK I;'m over reacting here. Although there are times I would like to have my way with these guys... :fire:

I'm sure GJ and Mr GJ are in that place right now. Let's get some revenge........ :mad:

and not let it happen again... :yes:

I u2u'd "noproblem2" earlier today in response to a message from her with the following message:

You've been down there and known them for 4 YEARS and you guys haven't met ??? What's wrong with that picture??? I can see I have my work cut out for me when I retire and get down there in 2 years. I thought that's what retirement was all about. Meeting and having fun with people. :yes:

OK, when I get down there everybody is comin' over for a party at my house and whoever doesn't come is in big trouble when I show up on their door step to pick them up. We've got to get some solidarity among the Nomads to help each other through stuff like "GJ" is going through.
How about local meetings to discuss needs, wants, concerns, work parties for helping with home repairs, alarm systems, etc.... Boy I can see this is going to be fun. We'll start a local "United Nomads club #001". Kinda like a chamber of commerce or a neighbor hood watch system. What do ya think?? : )

This is a good idea for all you Nomads down there. Let's get together and DO SOMETHING. Come on people This is not going to be difficult. So we all get together every 2 weeks, have a couple of tacos and drinks after a serious NOMAD LOCALS meeting. Everybody's got their specialized talents ( both guys and gals) that can be used for the good of our community. Lets get together. I'm not yet retired and still working in San Diego. So I'd love to come down when I can and help. OK, I've put the idea out there. WHO"S going to step up and help get it going :?:

I can't do this from San Diego with just posts on this wonderful board. But we have to use this means of communication to get it started and organized. We need local area groups to start meetings and help each other. Which means somebody needs to stand up and contact everybody in each area on this board and have a get together ( Baja Nomad Locals Meeting). Don't wait for me, that's 2 years away and you need help NOW. :yes:

I can help from up here near the San Diego area but work time constraints limit me for now. DAMN, I wish I could retire now. Don't forget " "youth and skill will always be overcome by old age and trechery"

That's an idea in the making. Sorry I got carried away there.

For our immediate needs, I'd like to meet with you GJ and NOPROBLEM2 and see what WE can come up with. Can you guy's u2u me with phone numbers so we can set it up? Or call me, my number is right here on the left of this column for all to use if they want to call me. Call me 619 224 0808 or nextel direct connect 125*136811*8.

I'm looking foward to meeting you both and introducing you to each other in person. :yes:

OK, toneart
I hope all that qualifies for being at least newbie prattler.... :bounce:

[Edited on 7-25-10 by KASHEYDOG]

MsTerieus - 7-24-2010 at 11:10 PM

What a NICE andupbeat post, Kasheydog! J :tumble:

KASHEYDOG - 7-24-2010 at 11:29 PM

Thanks, MsTerieus....... :yes:

And just where are you??

You in Baja? Want to be the first Nomad Locals organizer in your area??

There's a whole lot of fun to be had here, organizing all of the Nomads to help each other. I've seen your posts on the Cuidad Constitution mordida thread. Just think what the Nomads could do if we all got together and rode on that city on the same day and confronted city officials in a peaceful, united group. :wow:

" Lets ride" Call me

[Edited on 7-25-10 by KASHEYDOG]

noproblemo2 - 7-25-2010 at 07:55 AM

OK, Kashey, I'm game, as I would like to make sure we have done everything we can to protect ourselves in our home, will send a U2U to set this meeting up. PS, offer is still good if you want to put you up here for the night........

KASHEYDOG - 7-25-2010 at 08:52 AM

Thanks , noproblemo2....

OK, it's on..... :wow:

Looking foward to meeting you guys. BTW, my first name is Richard ( Dick )

lets meet each other!

skipowell - 7-25-2010 at 08:56 AM

Sorry to hear about the ordeal that Jan had to go through!
But if there is any good out of this it would be nice to see us all band together and see what we can do as a group.
I propose that we pick a weekend evening and a meeting place such as Splash (now that they have enlarged their great place!) and at least put faces with names as a start. We much like Kasheydog and others are only weekenders as we still have jobs in San Diego.
Lori and Jeff

KASHEYDOG - 7-25-2010 at 09:36 AM

Thanks, skipowell.... :yes:

.. for your support.
That's just what we need and how this whole thing can get started.
Splash is a good start for a first meeting spot. It may be a little small for what I would hope would be a big turn out. We have to get the word out. That will be by way of Baja Nomad postings and the old "grape vine.
So, people, let's talk it up. I know this may be a slow process and take a few weeks to organize, but we have a start here. It's up to all of US to DO SOMETHING, ANYTHING or JUST LIVE IN FEAR.
Not my idea of a wonderful retirement in Baja and I for one will not live that way. :mad:

If we get a really big turn out I would suggest Ortega's Buffet on the north end of Rosarita. It's big and has several large semi private rooms that lend themselves to having meetings. It may be more centralized for everybody. I know there are Nomads who live north of Rosarita from La Playas down to Rosarita. We could also switch meeting places to various spots each month to accommodate everybody's local proximity and merchants who would cater to our needs. Let's see what the response is and then we'll set a date and time from there. If any body wants to call me, it's OK.. :yes:

Ok folks, somebody step up with another suggestion.
Hey, how about somebody down in Punta Banda getting something going for the Ensenada area. You guys don't want to be left behind by the Rosarita Beach Chapter do you..

Your first assignment will be to torch those poppy fields I just heard about on another thread....

.....

Thanks again Lori & Jeff

[Edited on 7-25-10 by KASHEYDOG]

Woooosh - 7-25-2010 at 11:59 AM

I want to add my support to GypsyJan and hope she is doing well after the ordeal. Many times in a planned-out home robbery or invasion the bad guys will throw a piece of meat laced with anti-freeze over the wall for the dogs first to kill them- glad this wasn't that type of crime. We had a dog poisoned once and it was heartbreaking.

We ahave an alarm system but instruct the monitoring company not to contact the police- sadly we still have no trust that the Rosarito police won't make things worse or even be in cahoots. Your best security system is a loud, unmonitored alarm and your good neighbors. I have found that here in Mexico it may take 5 years or more before you get to that level of trust and support with them and only through watching your actions from behind the curtains- which is why we tend to only deal with other property owners- not the renters passing through here with a few exceptions of course. Of course you have to keep your guard up more in the Baja Norte border region than in Baja Sur imho- because many criminals deportees and newbie narco recruits wind up here.

[Edited on 7-25-2010 by Woooosh]

noproblemo2 - 7-25-2010 at 12:14 PM

Woooosh can you provide more info on a specific type of alarm system that may be best for here? Since GJ's break-in I am taking home security very seriously, even with the metal bars I want more security.

Woooosh - 7-25-2010 at 12:30 PM

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Originally posted by noproblemo2
Woooosh can you provide more info on a specific type of alarm system that may be best for here? Since GJ's break-in I am taking home security very seriously, even with the metal bars I want more security.

Alarms are not my strong point. It's not that they are expensive- they are not. But they are hard (for me anyway) to program for the entrance and exit delays and motion detector sensitivity. I bought a DSC wired model at www.smarthome.com and had the builder install it. If you don't pre-wire, you can get the wireless models but those door and window contacts are more expensive.

noproblemo2 - 7-25-2010 at 12:36 PM

Thanks, plus we now have help from Kasheydog too !!!!!

MsTerieus - 7-25-2010 at 12:42 PM

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Originally posted by KASHEYDOG
Thanks, MsTerieus....... :yes:

I'm afraid I'm still in the US (SF Bay Area). If I could have neighbors like you, I'd be very tempted to move south manana!

For the record: I have never posted on a Ciudad Constitution mordida thread (or any thread related to that subject); it sounds like a horrible situation, there, and I'm glad I foresee no immediate (or not so immediate) reason for having to drive though it!

KASHEYDOG - 7-25-2010 at 12:47 PM

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Originally posted by Woooosh

#1 We have an alarm system but instruct the monitoring company not to contact the police- sadly we still have no trust that the Rosarito police won't make things worse or even be in cahoots.

# 2 Your best security system is a loud, unmonitored alarm and your good neighbors. I have found that here in Mexico it may take 5 years or more before you get to that level of trust and support with them and only through watching your actions from behind the curtains- which is why we tend to only deal with other property owners- not the renters passing through here with a few exceptions of course. .

[Edited on 7-25-2010 by Woooosh]

Good points, Woooosh. Thanks.... :yes:

Point #1
If we can get a viable organization going we can solicite the help of the police dept. maybe even have the Police Chief attend a meeting. I know several big business people in Rosarita who can help with that. We all know the buisness people would support us. It's only good for the whole community and business in general. I've been introduced to the mayor (Hugo Torres) a few years ago through one of my contacts and I sure he'd back us.

Point#2
Guess why it takes 5 years to gain trust in our neighbors. " "NO COMMUNICATION" would be the correct answer. Just like I've seen up here in the states. we all move into a new home and nobody comes over to say "Hello" so it takes 5 years to get to know our "neighbors". God, I hate that trait in us.
So an organization like ours built on a platform of helping each other in a social atmosphere will help get everyone to know and trust each other in a short time.

You want in..... :?:

BTW. This should not be limited to just people who post on Baja Nomad, but all down here.

noproblemo2 - 7-25-2010 at 12:47 PM

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I'm afraid I'm still in the US (SF Bay Area). If I could have neighbors like you, I'd be very tempted to move south manana!

Hey, you can have neighbors like us :lol:

We're everywhere down here....

DENNIS - 7-25-2010 at 12:50 PM

This is the type of alarm which needs to be installed:

http://www.motleycrow.com/ImageHost/Claymore%2520Mine2.jpe

noproblemo2 - 7-25-2010 at 01:04 PM

Yep, guess that would do the job..............

KASHEYDOG - 7-25-2010 at 02:12 PM

Dennis, you're a man after my own heart. :bounce:

.Lets kick some crooks butts down here :fire:

[Edited on 7-25-10 by KASHEYDOG]

ELINVESTIG8R - 7-26-2010 at 05:40 AM

bajaguy - 7-26-2010 at 07:04 AM

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Originally posted by ELINVESTIG8R

Good idea....except you forgot about the backblast

Public's Reaction Had You Had to Defend Yourself?

bajalivin - 7-26-2010 at 03:24 PM

Imagine the kudos and cries of barbaric vigilantism had you harmed the burglar.