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Novelli driving a "hot" Hummer

slimshady - 8-31-2010 at 09:36 PM

I heard from some friends in baja that Ray Novelli of Maravia Country Club Estates was busted in either Cabo or La PAz for driving his Hummer which had fake papers and plates. It was supposedly printed in the DIARIO PENINSULAR this last week.

If it is true and he is driving a "hot " stolen vehicle around baja, it does not bode well for all the property owners who dished out money to buy one of his lots.

It would be nice to get ahold of the article.

JESSE - 8-31-2010 at 11:28 PM

http://bit.ly/dBBbHo

gnukid - 8-31-2010 at 11:45 PM

nonstory who doesn't get pulled over and accused of driving a stolen car when its your own car in La Paz? Complete Crap. bigger fish to fry

wessongroup - 9-1-2010 at 07:21 AM

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Who are the real thieves? HELLO hello? hello? is anybody out there? Is anyone paying attention? Ferris Bueller?

Not sure .... just did a google translation of the link Jesse provided... and found this paragraph ...

"The American businessman in Baja California Sur faces several criminal charges for crimes of plunder and invasion of lands with high potential for tourism development, mainly in Punta Coyote, where different co-owners of the lands claimed from the dispossession of 1000 750 hectares."

You may be correct about bigger fish to fry.. in the picture (of the stop) the "lady" mentioned as being in the car with him is covering her face ??? strange.. :?:

as most enjoy "press"

SMELL DEM FISHIES!!

bajajazz - 9-1-2010 at 09:09 AM

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nonstory who doesn't get pulled over and accused of driving a stolen car when its your own car in La Paz? Complete Crap. bigger fish to fry

The only fish, big or small, that contributors to this board have to fry are the kind that smell like fish. :bounce:

wessongroup - 9-1-2010 at 09:17 AM

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nonstory who doesn't get pulled over and accused of driving a stolen car when its your own car in La Paz? Complete Crap. bigger fish to fry

The only fish, big or small, that contributors to this board have to fry are the kind that smell like fish. :bounce:

Can't resist the straight line...... of course that would include...... you :lol:

gnukid - 9-1-2010 at 09:24 AM

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nonstory who doesn't get pulled over and accused of driving a stolen car when its your own car in La Paz? Complete Crap. bigger fish to fry

The only fish, big or small, that contributors to this board have to fry are the kind that smell like fish. :bounce:

well said, I enjoy a super hot iron pot over mesquite with olive oil, garlic to fry filet, callos and camarones.

Guilty Pleasures

bajajazz - 9-1-2010 at 10:13 AM

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nonstory who doesn't get pulled over and accused of driving a stolen car when its your own car in La Paz? Complete Crap. bigger fish to fry

The only fish, big or small, that contributors to this board have to fry are the kind that smell like fish. :bounce:

Can't resist the straight line...... of course that would include...... you :lol:

Yeah, so much so that the guilties are beginning to set in . . . there must be something I can do today to pay down my oxygen debt . . . speaking metaphorically, that is. Have to admit that when I read of scam artists finally being brought down -- or at least exposed for what they are -- the schadenfreude is delicious, one of my guilty pleasures.

[Edited on 9-1-2010 by bajajazz]

wessongroup - 9-1-2010 at 10:20 AM

No worries.. its all good ... and your point is not lost here...

toneart - 9-1-2010 at 10:37 AM

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nonstory who doesn't get pulled over and accused of driving a stolen car when its your own car in La Paz? Complete Crap. bigger fish to fry

The only fish, big or small, that contributors to this board have to fry are the kind that smell like fish. :bounce:

Can't resist the straight line...... of course that would include...... you :lol:

I too, like the kerfuffle that is stirred up around the schadenfreude! Pass the anchovies, please, along with the gerschtunken kase. :tumble:

BajaNews - 9-1-2010 at 11:51 AM

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Originally posted by slimshady
I heard from some friends in baja that Ray Novelli of Maravia Country Club Estates was busted in either Cabo or La PAz for driving his Hummer which had fake papers and plates. It was supposedly printed in the DIARIO PENINSULAR this last week.

If it is true and he is driving a "hot " stolen vehicle around baja, it does not bode well for all the property owners who dished out money to buy one of his lots.

It would be nice to get ahold of the article.

http://colectivopericu.wordpress.com/2010/08/31/de-nuevo-ray...

Past:

http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=45528

http://www.zetatijuana.com/html/Edicion1883/Reportajez_Gobie...

http://colectivopericu.wordpress.com/2010/05/04/semanario-ze...

http://colectivopericu.wordpress.com/2010/08/26/detienen-al-...

slimshady - 9-1-2010 at 01:47 PM

Thanks for the link, Jessee. I used babel fish to translate and it is rough but suffiecient.

Here it is Raymond Novelli, stopped in the avenue Constituent of 1974 on board a vehicle with robbery report, refused to lower of the unit. (Eliseo Zuloaga). The American Raymond Novelli, promotional investor of the development Maravías End - End the Coyote-, proprietor besides the Palermo´s restaurant, located in the zone of the Levee, was stopped the morning of yesterday by elements of the Municipal Preventive Police when she drived a Hummer vehicle H2 type, bronzed color, model 2004, whose documentation reveals that this unit counts on report of robbery in Mexicali, Baja California. This unit carried the plates 877-PMX-1, which according to the serial number 5GRGN23U44H105172 Hummer H2 line model 2004 with robbery report color coffee - bronzed, four doors, interposed the 12 of August of the 2010 in the city of Mexicali, Baja California, whose report number 2-2-210-98 indicates that the vehicle was “clonado”, that is to say, counts on the serial number of another similar unit that has robbery report. At the time of his halting happened about the 11:30 hours in the 1974 avenue Constituent, around the street access to the Cet of the Sea, Raymond Novelli was accompanied by a lady, refusing in addition to make delivery of the unit before the elements to the Preventive Municipal Police, to those who he threatened saying to them in ridicule tone that he was personal friend of the Governing Agúndez Narcissus, that don't mention it would serve the one that stopped and seized the vehicle to him because of all ways they would have it to return. Novelli was put at the disposal of the Agent of the Public Ministry of turn about the 14:30 hours after which after refusing to give the unit, this had to be towed with crane towards the patios of the municipal corporation. The American industralist faces in South Baja California several penal denunciations by the crimes of despoliation and invasion of estates high potential of tourist development, mainly in Coyote End, where different co-owners from earth demand the despoliation to him of 1 thousand 750 hectares. Raymond Novelli apparently counts on several antecedents before the federal justice of the United States, as well as in South Baja California he has been accused of the crimes of despoliation and invasion of estates by the families Level Rochín and Sanchez.
He may not be a big fish and Gnu indicates but still is a fish. He is the type of person that does bad things to people in baja and we don't need that here.

gnukid - 9-1-2010 at 01:58 PM

Hey, clearly the guy has a horrific history.

But, in La Paz it's quite common for MP to pull over Americans and say the car is stolen when it isn't. The evidence presented here is that the VIN has a duplicate. This is hardly evidence of theft in this case. And worse, everytime someone is associated with criminal action and the current government the only one to go down is the associate and usually for trumped up charges that will go away.

slimshady - 9-1-2010 at 02:23 PM

Normal people with good intentions don't drive cars with duplicte plates and vins of a vehicle stolen in Mexicali, failure to yield, and have a reputation in the states and baja as a scam artist ready to take your money. Other than that he is a really nice guy and donates to charity.

slimshady - 9-1-2010 at 03:19 PM

Yea, that babel fish sure really makes the story that much more interesting.

It also translates that he is a "american industrialist."

BajaNomad - 9-1-2010 at 03:37 PM

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Yea, that babel fish sure really makes the story that much more interesting.

It also translates that he is a "american industrialist."

Try Google next time instead of Babel Fish. Babel Fish has been doing it longer, but IMHO - Google is better (but not perfect by any means).

http://translate.google.com

comitan - 9-2-2010 at 01:46 PM

27 years around La Paz, never a problem.

gnukid - 9-2-2010 at 03:10 PM

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nonstory who doesn't get pulled over and accused of driving a stolen car when its your own car in La Paz? Complete Crap

Hmmm. Never happened to me (some 15 years in La Paz).

Anybody else on the board have it happen to them? :?:

--Larry

I have never paid for bogus stops but I have been stopped

examples

On the corner of Jalisco and M. Abasolo they stop every car, they say dogs are not allowed to sit on the seat. They say you need a shoulder belt in a car built before shoulder belts.

Hassled for parking a car badly, even though it is parked in the spot perfectly.

Hassled for speeding while going slowly over a tope

Hassled in downtown while driving perfectly

I was driving down the street and I was pulled over by the young guy on his quad, "He said, I am checking to see if you are stealing the car, we should go to el centro de transito to check if you are the owner." I replied, "I know you and you know me and I know your boss and your coworkers and you know my neighbors too, so I am probably me and you are probably you," he laughed and left then he pulled me over 30 minutes later and tried to ask something else, but never could quite get it out, before he finished I said thanks for all your help today, I saw your boss and told him what happened earlier and he wants to speak to you" he smiled and left again.

Considering that its front page news that police have setup roadblock extortion stops, the fact that it never happens to you suggests you don't get out much. Try driving through downtown La Paz and see if you get stopped for nothing.

If you have trouble accepting that extortion stops do occur that's fine, but they do occur and its usually not a big deal, they just want to see if you will give them some money, if you refuse they let you go anyway.

comitan - 9-2-2010 at 03:21 PM

Well kid I guess profiling is alive and well in La Paz.

gnukid - 9-2-2010 at 03:21 PM

My post about the stops of this fellow were made since, they claim he was pulled over for being in a reported stolen vehicle with duplicate vin while he is accused of far more serious crimes.

So you see, the report states, he was picked up for being in a car that was reported stolen yet it was his car, it is registered to him and he had the paperwork. Whatever I know nothing about this or anything else apparently. How about pursuing crimes that really did occur? No fun in that?

gnukid - 9-2-2010 at 03:37 PM

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Well kid I guess profiling is alive and well in La Paz.

Listen up, I have never been in trouble, neither in an accident or had a ticket, not in any country. I live a simple and clean life. The cops know this and even though they try games in La Paz it never works, though I do know it is common.

Geez, the front page story yesterday is that drunken cops both Federal and Local got so drunk on duty they couldn't drive, they pulled out their weapon and fired shots into Los Arcos as well as into their own car, but you two would rather pick on me? Additionally 3000 Federal Cops were fired for failures on the job. So, instead of facing the real trouble, you attack someone who is clearly not a problem to you or anyone else. Why? I'll tell you why, because if you admitted the real trouble you would feel compelled to act and you are unwilling to take action to resolve real problems.

To me, there are two serious problems, one is corruption and the other is complicity in corruption.

My neighborhood has gone from being a center for crime which had connections in every direction to be nearly totally quiet and clean but we did and do have to stand up to the criminal elements, we had to complete the denuncia process and it wasn't very fun-it took years, literally old people in wheel chairs fighting back against a crime ring, but we did it. Now it is much better but YOU need to be honest about the problems and who is causing them. You need to stand up to false stops, extortion and you need to say no way to criminal behavior, when you do and you get mad they get the point.

There is no one out there to help us but ourselves.

wessongroup - 9-2-2010 at 03:39 PM

gnukid... he just may have wanted to find out how your "voltage regulator/battery" thing was working.. and how is that BEAST running now?

gnukid - 9-2-2010 at 03:59 PM

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gnukid... he just may have wanted to find out how your "voltage regulator/battery" thing was working.. and how is that BEAST running now?

I am sure you are right, they do like the car. Look this is a funny game, we do laugh, it's silly, everybody laughs, if we could write honestly I could tell you some real secrets, name names etc... its the same guys every day pulling the same crap on the same streets, to not notice it you would have to be, well, you would have to be practically blind.

Unfortunately for Fishabductor, when the guys get in trouble and they get rotated, so the reasons for trouble in Los Barriles now is because the most notorious were moved from my neighborhood to your neighborhood last year, now it's quiet where I live and it sucks where you live. It will be resolved eventually, but you need to stand up to corruption as least do not stand by passively.

I know them each by name and I know their game and so should you, it's like a bad Shakespearean play, the same silly characters playing the worst roles with the most convoluted stories, why this is the case is purely historical I am sure, 'it's tradition!' Oh that line came from Fiddler on the Roof but you get the point.

gnukid - 9-2-2010 at 04:38 PM

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I live 1.5hrs from Barrilles....and I haven't seen a police officer out were I live in several years!! It is not even close to their jurisdiction.

Awesome, very nice, seems to be a great community. kinda like this?

slimshady - 9-2-2010 at 09:40 PM

Bogus plates, bogus vin, bogus registration, stolen car, land thief. If he is not dirty , then who is?