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GRAFFITI

lachicana - 9-20-2010 at 03:03 PM

Does anyone know if all the graffiti on the rocks through Cartavina will ever be removed? Does the government have any plans at all?

Pompano - 9-20-2010 at 03:09 PM

lachicana...it has been removed... several times and for several years. It just keeps coming back ....with a lot of 'advertisers'. :no:

DENNIS - 9-20-2010 at 03:18 PM

It's at it's worst around election time here. The same people who would have one incarcerated for writing on the landscape, have their names written on rocks throughout the valleys.
I still see one for "Margarita" who I believe was running for Governor back in the eightys.

slimshady - 9-20-2010 at 03:33 PM

Sand blast them!

Actually....I have a confession to make.

Pompano - 9-20-2010 at 03:34 PM

My name is Pompano and I am a graffiti-ist.




...BUT...I use crayon!

Skeet/Loreto - 9-20-2010 at 03:36 PM

Plesae remember that you are in Mexico,much differ that in the States where you have Tax payers Money to pay for the removeal{Except in South Central La and Eastern la.

Stop at the place just North of Sta Catavina and look at it real close. It is very differnt and interesting.

k-rico - 9-20-2010 at 03:41 PM

It was a cold rainy day in TJ and while at a PEMEX I saw two cops pull up to a couple of teenage guys walking down the street, tackle them in the mud next to the street, and cuff them face down with their knees in their backs.

Spray paint cans that fell out of a backpack rolled down the street. It was a good thing to see.

lizard lips - 9-20-2010 at 04:17 PM

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Originally posted by DENNIS

I still see one for "Margarita" who I believe was running for Governor back in the eightys.


She was CUTE Dennis....:yes:

DENNIS - 9-20-2010 at 04:34 PM

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Originally posted by lizard lips

She was CUTE Dennis....:yes:



Yeah...She was. It was also unusual at that time to see a woman running for office.

Phil S - 9-20-2010 at 04:36 PM

Todays graffiti is like 'tomorrows' cave paintings. Some day, history will record these comments regarding graffiti. And some day, Roger's photo's of his crayon graffiti work will be in museums maybe five six hundred years from now. Along with the boulders they are written on!!

[Edited on 9-20-2010 by Phil S]

[Edited on 9-20-2010 by Phil S]

Skeet/Loreto - 9-20-2010 at 04:40 PM

I have often wondered:

What does a Graffiti Artist get out of painting on Someone else;s Wall. Sexual maybe!!

bajabass - 9-20-2010 at 05:22 PM

They are not usually "nekid" at the time Skeet!:O:lol:

Bajatripper - 9-21-2010 at 11:50 AM

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Originally posted by Phil S
Todays graffiti is like 'tomorrows' cave paintings. Some day, history will record these comments regarding graffiti. And some day, Roger's photo's of his crayon graffiti work will be in museums maybe five six hundred years from now. Along with the boulders they are written on!!

[Edited on 9-20-2010 by Phil S]

[Edited on 9-20-2010 by Phil S]


Funny that you should put it that way, Phil, I had been planning on making a graffiti thread for some time pointing out this very aspect of it. I'm an "Old Road buff" (as likely are most people who ever traveled it) and graffiti comes to mind every time I'm looking for "legitimate" old roads. Graffiti, and the dates that accompany much of it, is one of the principal clues that one is, indeed, on the Old Road and not on a more recent service road put in for access to power lines and the like.

shari - 9-21-2010 at 11:55 AM

that would be really interesting bajatripper...thanks for this sideways view of graffiti and it's meaning and historical value...made me stop and think about it...differently....an interesting idea about new road/old road differences...some of the old roads are decomissioned and sort of taken out of existance and forgotton about...it would be interesting years from now to see what was written on these old roads...camino real comes to mind...definately something to ponder today.

Martyman - 9-22-2010 at 08:07 AM

I love the gang bangers, bad-burro graffitti scratched on a toilet seat. WTF? Do they think "I'm putting my name on this turd receptacle?"

David K - 9-22-2010 at 09:42 AM

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Originally posted by Bajatripper
Quote:
Originally posted by Phil S
Todays graffiti is like 'tomorrows' cave paintings. Some day, history will record these comments regarding graffiti. And some day, Roger's photo's of his crayon graffiti work will be in museums maybe five six hundred years from now. Along with the boulders they are written on!!

[Edited on 9-20-2010 by Phil S]

[Edited on 9-20-2010 by Phil S]


Funny that you should put it that way, Phil, I had been planning on making a graffiti thread for some time pointing out this very aspect of it. I'm an "Old Road buff" (as likely are most people who ever traveled it) and graffiti comes to mind every time I'm looking for "legitimate" old roads. Graffiti, and the dates that accompany much of it, is one of the principal clues that one is, indeed, on the Old Road and not on a more recent service road put in for access to power lines and the like.


You might enjoy this post I made in 2003 Steve: http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=37127

durrelllrobert - 9-22-2010 at 10:02 AM

History per Wikipedia
The term graffiti referred to the inscriptions, figure drawings, etc., found on the walls of ancient sepulchers or ruins, as in the Catacombs of Rome or at Pompeii. Usage of the word has evolved to include any graphics applied to surfaces in a manner that constitutes vandalism.

The earliest forms of graffiti date back to 30,000 BCE in the form of prehistoric cave paintings and pictographs using tools such as animal bones and pigments.[3] These illustrations were often placed in ceremonial and sacred locations inside of the caves. The images drawn on the walls showed scenes of animal wildlife and hunting expeditions in most circumstances. This form of graffiti is subject to disagreement considering it is likely that members of prehistoric society endorsed the creation of these illustrations.

The only known source of the Safaitic language, a form of proto-Arabic, is from graffiti: inscriptions scratched on to the surface of rocks and boulders in the predominantly basalt desert of southern Syria, eastern Jordan and northern Saudi Arabia. Safaitic dates from the 1st century BCE to the 4th century CE.

MsTerieus - 9-22-2010 at 10:10 AM

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Originally posted by Skeet/Loreto
I have often wondered:

What does a Graffiti Artist get out of painting on Someone else;s Wall. ...


I have the same question about some homeowners in Mexico: what does a homeowner get out of building it on leased land?

durrelllrobert - 9-22-2010 at 10:21 AM

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I have the same question about some homeowners in Mexico: what does a homeowner get out of building it on leased land?


Zero property tax for one. This is not just in Mexico: you must know that about 1/3rd of the homes in Foster City are on leased land and back in Maryland, Virginia (and other eastern states) land lease is not uncommon. The annual land lease here is less than half theprice of renting a mobile home space in the US and guaranteed for 10 years at a time.

DENNIS - 9-22-2010 at 10:41 AM

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Originally posted by durrelllrobert
guaranteed


I've watched these "guarantees" be obliterated by bulldozers in the past. It's one of all words that has no place in Mexico.

DENNIS - 9-22-2010 at 11:01 AM

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Originally posted by MsTerieus

I have the same question about some homeowners in Mexico: what does a homeowner get out of building it on leased land?


The practice comes from a time gone by when land here, even waterfront, had little value. At that time, landlords were happy to generate steady, reliable income without giving up their property and their word was their bond.

Times change, as do generations in control of the property, and in many cases, the promises made to the tenants die with the original owner leaving the disillusioned American tenant to apply his US mindset and insist on his rights...of which he has none. If one isn't legal in Mexico, one can't enter into a contract and in most cases, contracts were never offered...only rental agreements which were meaningless in or out of a court of law.

At the present time, real estate development is at a standstill, but one of these days, the boom will regain it's momentum and land values near the water will reach all-time highs. At that time, the tenant on leased land should keep his bags packed because the land, with his house, could be sold at any time.

What I'm sayin' is, the land lease is obsolete and unsafe to say the best. I wouldn't advise it for anybody.

mcfez - 9-22-2010 at 11:17 AM

Many Walmarts and Home Depots are built on leased land......
We got both ownership and leased lands in Baja.
Leasing is so cheap on the long run. The cost of our house in Campos Ocotilio, the yearly lease of ten years....is cheaper than paying for a vacation rental or Hotel for the amount of time there. That's one of a few reasons to lease.

Oh....and......wall Graffiti Artist(s)....should be captured and used for fish bait.
Quote:
Originally posted by MsTerieus
Quote:
Originally posted by Skeet/Loreto
I have often wondered:

What does a Graffiti Artist get out of painting on Someone else;s Wall. ...


I have the same question about some homeowners in Mexico: what does a homeowner get out of building it on leased land?


[Edited on 9-22-2010 by mcfez]

DENNIS - 9-22-2010 at 11:55 AM

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Originally posted by mcfez
Many Walmarts and Home Depots are built on leased land......
We got both ownership and leased lands in Baja.
Leasing is so cheap on the long run.



Do you, only for a minute, feel that your lease, if you truly have such a thing other than a rental agreement, has the same legal protections as a WalMart lease?

By the way....Other than the government, WalMart is the largest employer in Mexico.

mcfez - 9-22-2010 at 01:21 PM

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Originally posted by DENNIS
Quote:
Originally posted by mcfez
Many Walmarts and Home Depots are built on leased land......
We got both ownership and leased lands in Baja.
Leasing is so cheap on the long run.



Do you, only for a minute, feel that your lease, if you truly have such a thing other than a rental agreement, has the same legal protections as a WalMart lease?

By the way....Other than the government, WalMart is the largest employer in Mexico.
:

DENNIS
Good question and thanks for asking.

Yes to your question! Like I said...the lease er rental :-) suits our purpose there perfectly. At the end of our lease....burn the place down for all I care...we came out ahead of the game. I do believe that our lease will be re-upped as it has in the pass. And that be a good thing.

I have many friends down that will debate all nite long how secure their lease is....one of them (a teacher BTW) swears on his mother's grave that his 20 year lease is valid and will hold up in a court of law. Oh...okay :lol: As some of use know...it's a 10ner in Mexico by their law.

I have also seen homeowners spend hundreds of thousands of USD on construction of their homes on leased land. Not a bet I would take. But I would on land that we own ....with risk to that too a little. Old saying goes....I think you have said this in the far past of this forum....If you cant afford to loose it...dont build in Baja. So true.

Didn't expect this sort of reply from me, eh? ;D

And no...I did not know WalMart is the largest employer in Mexico.



[Edited on 9-22-2010 by mcfez]

DENNIS - 9-22-2010 at 01:39 PM

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Originally posted by mcfez
I have many friends down that will debate all nite long how secure their lease is....one of them (a teacher BTW) swears on his mother's grave that his 20 year lease is valid and will hold up in a court of law. Oh...okay :lol: As some of use know...it's a 10ner in Mexico by their law.



For some it's difficult to admit they are ever out of the USA and think our laws are the same everywhere. Ohhh welllll....

Only a legal lease has the ten year time frame. Most people don't know what they have, or don't have, and only assume the best. It's the American way. Hope for the best.

Thanks, mc.........

durrelllrobert - 9-24-2010 at 08:50 AM

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Originally posted by DENNIS
Quote:
Originally posted by MsTerieus



At the present time, real estate development is at a standstill, but one of these days, the boom will regain it's momentum and land values near the water will reach all-time highs. At that time, the tenant on leased land should keep his bags packed because the land, with his house, could be sold at any time.

What I'm sayin' is, the land lease is obsolete and unsafe to say the best. I wouldn't advise it for anybody.


How about those poor folks on the spit that were RECENTLY evicted from the homes they thought they owned (some for 20+ years). They wern't any safer than if they had leased the land.:?:

mcfez - 9-24-2010 at 10:36 AM

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Originally posted by durrelllrobert
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Originally posted by DENNIS
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Originally posted by MsTerieus



At the present time, real estate development is at a standstill, but one of these days, the boom will regain it's momentum and land values near the water will reach all-time highs. At that time, the tenant on leased land should keep his bags packed because the land, with his house, could be sold at any time.

What I'm sayin' is, the land lease is obsolete and unsafe to say the best. I wouldn't advise it for anybody.


How about those poor folks on the spit that were RECENTLY evicted from the homes they thought they owned (some for 20+ years). They wern't any safer than if they had leased the land.:?:


True. Very True!
A story that come out a year or two ago concerning a Campos down the street from us, I write the story as I heard it...in short form:
7-8 years ago, this lady drives up a dirt road, and camps there. Loves the place! Goes back and forth there many times. Finally, the owner of this beach front land shows up...they talk..and talk...and talk. She offered to buy a lot, and he agrees.
During the next several years...she builds a house there, and encourages her friends to buy in too. Soon.....its a micro village with a security gate and guard
at the front entrance. Home sweet home!
About two years ago...this guy from Ensenada drives in.....sees this progressing development....stops to ask one of the neighbors..."what da hell are you doing on my land"?!! So it was fact that he was indeed the owner...and this other guy was just a conman.
The original lady camper convinced the Ensenada owner to let her stay. Everything else was lost to everyone. True story!
Ah....hire a pro to do your buying......

Cyanide41 - 9-24-2010 at 12:54 PM

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Originally posted by k-rico
It was a cold rainy day in TJ and while at a PEMEX I saw two cops pull up to a couple of teenage guys walking down the street, tackle them in the mud next to the street, and cuff them face down with their knees in their backs.

Spray paint cans that fell out of a backpack rolled down the street. It was a good thing to see.


That's awesome.

I have seen guys spray painting on THIS STREET in broad daylight. I don't the city has enough paint to cover it up. My GF at the time lived near by

Bajahowodd - 9-24-2010 at 01:14 PM

Graffiti exists all over the world. A number of European cities are virtually covered. I remember the first time I visited Rome. I was shocked that you couldn't walk a block without seeing paint on a wall.

I also recall way back when, in New York. Graffitists targeted the subway cars. The then mayor, John Lindsay decided to stop the program of cleaning it off, referring to it as art. Didn't take very long until the entire fleet of rolling stock was totally covered with the exception of the windows. It was weird. Didn't strike me as art.

Cypress - 9-24-2010 at 01:45 PM

Graffiti is vandalism.:(

durrelllrobert - 9-25-2010 at 11:40 AM

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Originally posted by MsTerieus

I have the same question about some homeowners in Mexico: what does a homeowner get out of building it on leased land?


If you are thinking about buying Mekican property using a bank trust (Fideicomiso) you should be aware that the IRS may be watching you:

IRS throwing bombs to US citizen real estate investors abroad

A property that is lived in by beneficiary of Fideicomiso or relative MUST be taxed at fair rental value as distribution of the Trust.

FATCA: Uncompensated Use of Foreign Trust Property
June 25, 2010 by admin
Filed under: FATCA

The uncompensated use of foreign trust property by a U.S. Grantor, a U.S. Beneficiary, or a U.S. Person related to either of them is treated as a distribution by the trust for non-grantor trust income tax purposes (which also includes the loan of cash or marketable securities by a foreign trust or the use of any other property of the trust).

The distribution treatment of foreign trust transaction has been expanded to include the uncompensated use of property by certain U.S. Persons. The treatment of foreign trusts as having U.S. beneficiaries for grantor trust purposes has been expanded to include loans of cash or marketable securities or the use of any other trust property to or by a U.S. Person.

If a foreign trust permits the use of any trust property by a U.S. Grantor, a U.S. Beneficiary, or any U.S. Person related to either of them, the fair market value of the use of such property is treated as a distribution by the trust to the Grantor or Beneficiary (IRC §643(i)(1), as amended by the 2010 HIRE Act).

This treatment does not apply to the extent that the trust is paid the fair market value of such use within a reasonable time (IRC §643(i)(2)(E), as added the 2010 HIRE Act). If distribution treatment does apply to the use of trust property, the subsequent return of such property is disregarded for federal tax purposes (IRC §643(i)(3), as amended by the 2010 HIRE Act).

http://www.procopio.com/userfiles/file/assets/files1/what-ha...

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MsTerieus - 9-26-2010 at 11:09 AM

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Originally posted by durrelllrobert
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I have the same question about some homeowners in Mexico: what does a homeowner get out of building it on leased land?


Zero property tax for one. This is not just in Mexico: you must know that about 1/3rd of the homes in Foster City are on leased land and back in Maryland, Virginia (and other eastern states) land lease is not uncommon. The annual land lease here is less than half theprice of renting a mobile home space in the US and guaranteed for 10 years at a time.


Oh, please: the cost of the leases generally far outweighs any property taxes. I don't believe what you said about Foster City. I have lived about 7 minutes away from there for the past 20+ years, and I have never heard such a thing.

MsTerieus - 9-26-2010 at 11:18 AM

Hey, Durrell & McFez: You have attributed some quoted language to me which is not mine! :mad:

MsTerieus - 9-26-2010 at 11:23 AM

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Originally posted by durrelllrobert
If you are thinking about buying Mekican property using a bank trust (Fideicomiso) you should be aware that the IRS may be watching you: ....

http://www.procopio.com/userfiles/file/assets/files1/what-ha...

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Wow, that is very interesting. Thanks, I knew nothing about it. (Assuming my poor kitties outlive me and my few (older) family members, they are going to have to come up with some cash!) ;D

Bajafun777 - 9-26-2010 at 12:12 PM

I have come to the conclusion that I will try leasing at 3 months at a time at all the different locations that get my attention and desire to try the location out longer. That way there is no "Too Bad Too Sad " situation for anyone. The other part is I get to see more of what is really out there before thinking of staying longer at a location! "No Hurry, No Worry, Just Fun" Take Care & Travel Safe bajafun777

mcfez - 9-26-2010 at 06:35 PM

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Originally posted by MsTerieus
Hey, Durrell & McFez: You have attributed some quoted language to me which is not mine! :mad:


Such as.......?

Bajafun777.......smart move.

MsTerieus - 9-26-2010 at 07:09 PM

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Originally posted by mcfez
Quote:
Originally posted by MsTerieus
Hey, Durrell & McFez: You have attributed some quoted language to me which is not mine! :mad:


Such as.......?




Such as all this:

"Originally posted by MsTerieus [NOT!]

"At the present time, real estate development is at a standstill, but one of these days, the boom will regain it's momentum and land values near the water will reach all-time highs. At that time, the tenant on leased land should keep his bags packed because the land, with his house, could be sold at any time.

"What I'm sayin' is, the land lease is obsolete and unsafe to say the best. I wouldn't advise it for anybody."

DENNIS - 9-27-2010 at 08:15 AM

It's no big deal. Someone messed up the quote boxes....that's all. It's not like the text will ruin your career.

DianaT - 9-27-2010 at 08:37 AM

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Originally posted by Phil S
Todays graffiti is like 'tomorrows' cave paintings. Some day, history will record these comments regarding graffiti. And some day, Roger's photo's of his crayon graffiti work will be in museums maybe five six hundred years from now. Along with the boulders they are written on!!

[Edited on 9-20-2010 by Phil S]

[Edited on 9-20-2010 by Phil S]


This made me smile----Quite a while back, I started a Thread that pondered a similar question----was not a well accepted thought. :lol::lol:

DENNIS - 9-27-2010 at 09:04 AM

Where does one draw the line between Tagging, Graffiti and Art? The Coronado Bridge in San Diego was tagged and painted so often, and the city couldn't stop it, that they declared the mainland end of the bridge an "Ok to do what you want" area.
If you can't beat 'em...join 'em.

MsTerieus - 9-27-2010 at 09:47 AM

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Originally posted by DENNIS
It's no big deal. Someone messed up the quote boxes....that's all. It's not like the text will ruin your career.


DENNIS
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posted on 8-28-2010 at 06:00 PM

"Sorry I upset you. We won't talk anymore. Ever."




How soon they forget ...

mcfez - 9-27-2010 at 09:49 AM

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Originally posted by MsTerieus
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Originally posted by mcfez
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Originally posted by MsTerieus
Hey, Durrell & McFez: You have attributed some quoted language to me which is not mine! :mad:


Such as.......?




Such as all this:

"Originally posted by MsTerieus [NOT!]

"At the present time, real estate development is at a standstill, but one of these days, the boom will regain it's momentum and land values near the water will reach all-time highs. At that time, the tenant on leased land should keep his bags packed because the land, with his house, could be sold at any time.

"What I'm sayin' is, the land lease is obsolete and unsafe to say the best. I wouldn't advise it for anybody."


Sorry...not a word there is mine. Perhaps your cats should read the posts for you...

[Edited on 9-27-2010 by mcfez]

MsTerieus - 9-27-2010 at 09:55 AM

No big deal, McFez. (I was just being feisty.)

mcfez - 9-27-2010 at 10:04 AM

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Originally posted by MsTerieus
No big deal, McFez. (I was just being feisty.)



I like feisty folks....keeps this forum alive! I will behave towards you here here on out........because your cats like very vicious... :saint:

[Edited on 9-27-2010 by mcfez]

DENNIS - 9-27-2010 at 10:25 AM

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Originally posted by MsTerieus


How soon they forget ...



They didn't forget anything. Neither did I. I merely wanted to bypass the formality of asking your permission before I changed my mind. You must not be accustomed to other's making their own decisions.

Bajahowodd - 9-27-2010 at 03:53 PM

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Originally posted by DENNIS
Where does one draw the line between Tagging, Graffiti and Art? The Coronado Bridge in San Diego was tagged and painted so often, and the city couldn't stop it, that they declared the mainland end of the bridge an "Ok to do what you want" area.
If you can't beat 'em...join 'em.


A financial decision. Saves on rust-proofing costs! :lol::lol:

[Edited on 9-27-2010 by Bajahowodd]

DENNIS - 9-27-2010 at 04:18 PM

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Originally posted by Bajahowodd
decision. Saves on rust-proofing costs! :lol::lol:




eees cemento. :)

Bajatripper - 9-28-2010 at 09:32 AM

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Originally posted by DENNIS
Where does one draw the line between Tagging, Graffiti and Art? The Coronado Bridge in San Diego was tagged and painted so often, and the city couldn't stop it, that they declared the mainland end of the bridge an "Ok to do what you want" area.
If you can't beat 'em...join 'em.


I would definitely place the East side of the Coronado Bridge on the "right" side of the line for artwork. They have some beautiful murals down there, but the area certainly doesn't inspire confidence in one's safety.

Bajatripper - 9-28-2010 at 11:17 AM

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DENNIS
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posted on 8-28-2010 at 06:00 PM

"Sorry I upset you. We won't talk anymore. Ever."




How soon they forget ...


Surely you didn't think 'ever' meant forever, did you? Dennis vents every once in a while, but seems to get over it eventually. Then he acts as if he never said anything out of line. No apology, no "on second thought,..." no kiss my arse, no nothin' (as one of my former wives' hick grandmother use to say). It's just who he is. I do hope you eventually forgive him, though. You two did hit if off pretty well for a while. It would be a shame if you deprived the rest of us of that witty banter you shared.

wessongroup - 9-28-2010 at 11:24 AM

Posting is talking .... :?::?:

DENNIS - 9-28-2010 at 11:36 AM

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Originally posted by Bajatripper
the area certainly doesn't inspire confidence in one's safety.



Barrio Logan??? A picture of tranquility. :lol::lol:

http://www.city-data.com/forum/san-diego/702497-barrio-logan...

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[Edited on 9-28-2010 by DENNIS]

MsTerieus - 9-28-2010 at 11:56 AM

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DENNIS
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posted on 8-28-2010 at 06:00 PM

"Sorry I upset you. We won't talk anymore. Ever."




How soon they forget ...


Surely you didn't think 'ever' meant forever, did you? Dennis vents every once in a while, but seems to get over it eventually. Then he acts as if he never said anything out of line. No apology, no "on second thought,..." no kiss my arse, no nothin' (as one of my former wives' hick grandmother use to say). It's just who he is. I do hope you eventually forgive him, though. You two did hit if off pretty well for a while. It would be a shame if you deprived the rest of us of that witty banter you shared.



Actually, that is what I thought (or hoped), and I replied accordingly: "Perfect resolution
  • . Thank you."

    LOL - "hit it off for a while?" I don't remember anything like that.

    _________________________

    * "Resolution" referred to my discomfort with all the insults and name-calling, including his having called me an "old hag," an "Alpha b--ch" and an "Alpha c--t.":lol:

    [Edited on 9-28-2010 by MsTerieus]

    DENNIS - 9-28-2010 at 12:01 PM

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    Originally posted by Bajatripper

    Then he acts as if he never said anything out of line. No apology, no "on second thought,..."


    Am I always in the wrong?
    Quote:

    no kiss my arse,


    I'm not allowed to say that. As you can see, I'm a better person for it :saint:.

    DENNIS - 9-28-2010 at 01:36 PM

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    Originally posted by MsTerieus
    his having called me an "old hag," an "Alpha b--ch" and an "Alpha c--t.":lol:



    Well....I don't say this often, but I'm honestly sorry........that all the good ones, like "bellowing fishwife" were taken.
    I'm gonna have to sit down and clean out my inventory of insults. Time for some new "stuff."
    Allow me to retract the part above that certainly does not apply to you...."Old." You arn't old at all. I've seen you. I should have said, "Worn out" instead of old.

    See?.....I've still got it. If I'm gonna be like me, I have to continually practice.
    Thanks for the constructive criticism. It all helps. :biggrin:

    Bajatripper - 9-28-2010 at 02:11 PM

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    Originally posted by DENNIS




    Am I always in the wrong?


    By no means, Dennis. In fact, you are seldom in the wrong. When it comes to your own interests in Baja, you are every much as informative as David K is in his way. And you bring a healthy dose of scepticism when it is needed.

    But, when it comes to interpersonal relationships, I'm afraid that you would be marked down as "sometimes does not play well with others" on your report card. To some, that particular habit of yours of going personal can be insulting in ways that make you an undesirable person with whom to have further communications, as the lady makes clear. You really should try to develop a different approach, you know. Your postings are usually so well written that you catch some off-guard when you revert to that mean and angry dude. But I won't hold my breath.

    Even so, I get a lot out of your posts, keep them coming. And for those other moments, I have real thick skin.

    Bajatripper - 9-28-2010 at 02:23 PM

    Quote:
    I'm not allowed to say that. As you can see, I'm a better person for it :saint:.


    Did you get spanked for the language you used in that thread that was deleted a while back? If so, it seems to have worked and Skeet is right about something!:lol::lol::lol:

    MsTerieus - 9-28-2010 at 02:42 PM

    Are you sure you have seen me? "Worn out" is a[nother] 'first.'

    In any case, for a guy pushing 70, who's not exactly in great shape, you have some nerve making any sort of comment about MY looks! :lol::lol::lol:

    [Edited on 9-28-2010 by MsTerieus]

    DENNIS - 9-28-2010 at 09:01 PM

    Quote:
    Originally posted by Bajatripper
    But I won't hold my breath.


    If you'll hold your breath till Thanksgiving, I'll promise to behave myself.

    DENNIS - 9-28-2010 at 09:04 PM

    Quote:
    Originally posted by Bajatripper

    Did you get spanked for the language you used in that thread that was deleted a while back?



    No. I didn't. I'm on the self-moderating plan.

    DENNIS - 9-28-2010 at 09:07 PM

    Quote:
    Originally posted by MsTerieus
    Are you sure you have seen me? "Worn out" is a[nother] 'first.'

    In any case, for a guy pushing 70, who's not exactly in great shape, you have some nerve making any sort of comment about MY looks! :lol::lol::lol:



    Your sense of humor is in need of repair and after your nastiness here, we have no hope.

    Dennis...

    mcfez - 9-28-2010 at 09:14 PM

    You want to borrow my Viking cap today? :lol:

    DENNIS - 9-28-2010 at 10:19 PM

    Quote:
    Originally posted by Bajatripper
    "sometimes does not play well with others"



    Darn, tripper...that statement caught my immediate attention, but I wasn't really sure why....being old and outta shape. Then it dawned on me a few minutes ago.......a schoolyard incident which was recurring while I was in the fifth grade in a badass Catholic school right after the war.
    This other Irish kid, Jimmy Gallagher, and I used to fight on an almost daily basis. We would go after each other in a terrible manner while in school and the Nuns wrote on one of my report cards that they thought I was slow to think and sluggish in response.
    Jimmy was sure that I was at least one of those, but Jimmy wasn't too smart either.

    Anyway, the school had my parents take me to a child psychologist for an evaluation of some sort and we left the doctor's office after a really boring afternoon of stooopid questions.

    A couple of days later, me and my folks [it was a family affair] were called together with the Number One Nun and it was decided that I needede to be advanced two grades, but one at a time since the culture shock could have adverse effects on me.

    Another reason for the delay from moving to another room is I had to wait for my wrist to repair from beating Jimmy Gallagher's face flat. It had a bad sprain.
    The really good thing was, Jimmy didn't mess with me anymore since I was an upper classman.

    Thought you may want to know what was wiggeling around in the back of me old, out of shape mind.

    Thanks for listening.

    MsTerieus - 9-28-2010 at 10:30 PM

    Quote:
    Originally posted by DENNIS
    Quote:
    Originally posted by MsTerieus
    Are you sure you have seen me? "Worn out" is a[nother] 'first.'

    In any case, for a guy pushing 70, who's not exactly in great shape, you have some nerve making any sort of comment about MY looks! :lol::lol::lol:



    Your sense of humor is in need of repair and after your nastiness here, we have no hope.


    When I said, "out of shape," I was referring to your physique (about which others on this forum have said worse), not your mind. (Doing the latter really would have been nasty, under the circumstances.)

    Why is it that my saying you are out of shape is so "nasty," while your calling me the names referred to above (not to mention some comments about my giving myself a colonoscopy) is acceptable? (Rhetorical question, ONLY.)
    Quote:
    We have no hope.


    Yeah, yeah, yeah - you keep threatening (or promising, depending on one's point of view) that we're "through," but you keep comin' back. :(

    [Edited on 9-29-2010 by MsTerieus]

    DENNIS - 9-28-2010 at 10:35 PM

    Quote:
    Originally posted by MsTerieus
    giving myself a colonoscopy



    Photos please......inside and out. :lol::lol:

    How does your shoe taste?

    MsTerieus - 9-28-2010 at 10:38 PM

    Quote:
    Originally posted by DENNIS
    Quote:
    Originally posted by MsTerieus
    giving myself a colonoscopy



    Photos please......inside and out. :lol::lol:

    How does your shoe taste?


    You think my shoe's up there too!??? :?:

    [Edited on 9-29-2010 by MsTerieus]

    DENNIS - 9-28-2010 at 10:44 PM

    Quote:
    Originally posted by MsTerieus
    You think my shoe's up there too!??? :?:



    Brings new meaning to the term, "Pack your bag."

    MsTerieus - 9-28-2010 at 10:51 PM

    The comment to which I referred was this one. I see that it was nothing personal, though.

    DENNIS
    Platinum Nomad
    ********
    posted on 7-25-2010 at 10:28 PM

    Quote:
    Originally posted by MsTerieus
    "Plus, I don't know how great a discount cartels could offer and still make good profits."

    [Reply by Dennis] "I give up. You are one of the many here who are able to give yourself a colonoscopy without tools."

    How CLEVER!

    [Edited on 9-29-2010 by MsTerieus]

    DENNIS - 9-28-2010 at 10:59 PM

    ohhhhhhh....you're making that up. :saint::saint:

    Do you hear voices??

    DENNIS - 9-28-2010 at 11:05 PM

    I had a shrink ask me one time if I heard voices.
    I replied, "Yeah. Yours."

    :biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:

    Appointment cut short.

    wessongroup - 9-29-2010 at 07:44 AM

    good to see you guys "posting" again... only wish I could find a female version of the "red shoes".... looking... might have to hire someone .... :lol::lol::lol:

    durrelllrobert - 9-29-2010 at 10:23 AM

    Quote:
    Quote:
    Originally posted by DENNIS



    ...a schoolyard incident which was recurring while I was in the fifth grade in a badass Catholic school right after the war.
    This other Irish kid, Jimmy Gallagher, and I used to fight on an almost daily basis. wasn't too smart either.


    Sounds just like my experience at St. Patrick's in Butte MT except that my Irish kid was Bobby Knivel (later AKA Evil Knivel).:P:P:P

    Skeet/Loreto - 9-29-2010 at 10:34 AM

    Bet a lot of folks do not know that Evil Knivel was an Artist.!!

    he has done some real good stuff with Birds.

    Skeet

    DENNIS - 9-29-2010 at 10:57 AM

    Quote:
    Originally posted by durrelllrobert

    Sounds just like my experience at St. Patrick's in Butte MT except that my Irish kid was Bobby Knivel (later AKA Evil Knivel).:P:P:P



    Apropos that he would take the name, EVIL, from a Catholic school.

    MsTerieus - 9-29-2010 at 10:58 AM

    Quote:
    Originally posted by Skeet/Loreto
    Bet a lot of folks do not know that Evil Knivel was an Artist.!!

    he has done some real good stuff with Birds.

    Skeet


    Well, yeah: One time he jumped a car over 355 pidgeons, all lined up in a row!

    durrelllrobert - 9-29-2010 at 11:32 AM

    Quote:
    Originally posted by MsTerieus


    Well, yeah: One time he jumped a car over 355 pidgeons, all lined up in a row!

    No, that was his Polish friend evil Kiminski, who jumped a tractor trailer oer 355 Harleys all lined up in a row:lol:

    wessongroup - 9-29-2010 at 11:34 AM

    Good one...

    durrelllrobert - 9-29-2010 at 11:41 AM

    Quote:
    Originally posted by MsTerieus

    I don't believe what you said about Foster City. I have lived about 7 minutes away from there for the past 20+ years, and I have never heard such a thing.

    Sorry, I should have said ... 1/3 of the homes WERE on leased land. I know that this was before your time (late 60s-early 70s) but there are still leasehold homes on Stanford property:
    Homes on leased land near San Francisquito Creek. Approximately 45 homes on Bay Laurel, Lemon, Oak and Oak Knoll sit on land owned by Stanford University. At one time the Stanford family owned a home in this area called Cedro Cottage. In the early 1950s part of Cedro Cottage was taken by eminent domain to build Oak Knoll School, while the rest was developed as the Stanford Creek housing tract. The homes were sold on a land lease—owners can buy and sell the house, but the land under the house is leased from Stanford. These land leases run for 99 years from the date of first sale in the early ‘50s Although this is a common practice in commercial real estate, the only comparable situations I’m aware of in local residential real estate are the homes on Stanford campus, the Stanford Hills development, and Foster City where homeowners who had short-term leases from the developer. When the Foster City leases expired, the homeowners were o-u-t.

    MsTerieus - 9-29-2010 at 11:52 AM

    Oh. I was not aware of the Foster City situation (obviously). I am aware that Stanford owns a ton of land around here and that there are homes on the campus. I thought that those homes (as well as the land) were owned by Stanford, though, and rented (or given) to faculty and the like -- rather than being SOLD. I would have thought the same about other homes on Stanford property. Nonetheless, if I could get an enforceable, 99-year lease, I'd certainly consider buying a house on leased land.

    drarroyo - 9-29-2010 at 04:05 PM

    Quote:
    Originally posted by DENNIS
    Anyway, the school had my parents take me to a child psychologist for an evaluation of some sort and we left the doctor's office after a really boring afternoon of stooopid questions.


    wow!! still have his phone # ??

    Bajatripper - 9-30-2010 at 04:57 PM

    Quote:
    Originally posted by Skeet/Loreto
    Bet a lot of folks do not know that Evil Knivel was an Artist.!!

    he has done some real good stuff with Birds.

    Skeet


    I heard he smoked a lot of dope, too.