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Why is my Jeep club suddenly afraid of Baja?

mcfez - 10-13-2010 at 08:13 PM

Hummm.

It all sounds like my friends and neighbors (and ex wife -mother of the kiddies). "There's bloody rage in the streets down there". "You'll get kidnapped". "The water will make you insane with the runs"!

Been hearing this junk since my first trip to Mexico in 1973....

dtbushpilot - 10-13-2010 at 08:28 PM

Recently my son said to me "I was thinking of coming down with the wife and kids for a visit, with all the bad press I've heard do you think it's safe?" I said sure it is and he said "OK, we'll be there for Thanksgiving".....

No issues, no worries, no headless bodies.....peace love and fish tacos....dt

bajamedic - 10-13-2010 at 09:47 PM

While planning our family winter vacation, my first suggestion was for all of us to visit Baja. Other than me, no one in the family was interested due to all of the bad press and the potential of having to pass through some of the same areas that are plastered all over the news. I tried to point out that there are places within our own small county that I/we will not go due to the well armed Dope Growers. Also, I tried to point out that there are neighborhoods that I will not go into when we go to Disneyland. Sorry to say, I am taking all 12 of us and my money to Hawaii instead. I plan to visit Baja when I can, as I still love the people, the land and the culture that are not associated with the drug trade. JH :no::no:

Pacifico - 10-13-2010 at 10:22 PM

Live on your feet or die on your knees!!! I can't wait to get back down there next week....

David K - 10-14-2010 at 08:08 AM

It's kind of nice as deserted as it is in Baja, but I know it is hurting the locals that we are not down there spending our dinero!

TMW - 10-14-2010 at 08:10 AM

I'm heading down in two weeks to pre-run the bottom half of the race course to La Paz. Then take my time coming back to do a little exploring and surf fishing. If you don't hear from me again you'll know it's bad down there and you need to stay away or I died having fun. If you hear from me again you'll know it's all OK.

David K - 10-14-2010 at 08:14 AM

Tom, if you get a SPOT, I will show everyone where you are each night... Just think of it as thousands of Nomads looking down at you from space! :lol::lol::lol:

TMW - 10-14-2010 at 08:35 AM

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Originally posted by David K
Tom, if you get a SPOT, I will show everyone where you are each night... Just think of it as thousands of Nomads looking down at you from space! :lol::lol::lol:


That would be pretty neat but what if I am kidnapped by a beautiful Mexican lady and hell in a beach hut while she does bad things to me. If she found out she might really harm me and no tellin what that would mean.

Curt63 - 10-14-2010 at 08:42 AM

My worst nightmare is losing my health and living/dying a long, lonely slow death in a hospital bed waiting for the Price is Right to come on and Sundays when my kids visit.

I would rather die on a Baja adventure. Adventure makes me feel very ALIVE!

There is so much Baja I plan to see.

I sure appreciate the information every shares.

wessongroup - 10-14-2010 at 10:20 AM

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Originally posted by Curt63
My worst nightmare is losing my health and living/dying a long, lonely slow death in a hospital bed waiting for the Price is Right to come on and Sundays when my kids visit.

I would rather die on a Baja adventure. Adventure makes me feel very ALIVE!

There is so much Baja I plan to see.

I sure appreciate the information every shares.


Can relate to your worst nightmare... but, have turned off the TV.. after a number of years... one can not take the "repeat" level that is presented in the just "Godawful" programing one gets from DirectTV and others... never thought I would have to pay for commercial TV ... now I don't ...

Agree that one should get out and go, as Baja is and can be a lot of fun ..... but, keep an eye out.. as things are pretty hot near the border .. just the day before yesterday.. a Federal Army dude was hiding in a tree in camo with his rifle at the ready, near the house ... now that is something one doesn't get to see every day...

Glad that some have no fear, as it makes things a lot more fun... when down in the Baja...

Think overall those further south have much "lower risk", except if you're flying in a plane, which may have practical application in the export business ....

Have a good one, keep your eyes wide, and don't take any wooden peso's.....

Osprey - 10-14-2010 at 10:31 AM

Wesson is right on. The further south you go, the safer it is. About 200 miles south of San Lucas, you will be so safe you'll long for something dicey to drift by your raft.

mcfez - 10-14-2010 at 01:20 PM

Well...San Felipe and southward is very safe ....at least on the Sea of Cortez side. Gb. BoLA. All safe as heck. Just dont stop for some guy wearing an Viking skull cap.....

krafty - 10-14-2010 at 05:32 PM

wessongroup, where was the dude in the tree?

SoCal-Bob - 10-14-2010 at 09:19 PM

i dunno what's wrong with your club, but this jeep club looks pretty fearless:

[img]http://image.fourwheeler.com/f/9550174/129_0801_05_z+camp_jeep_2007+fishcer_price_toy_jeep.jpg[/img]


:biggrin:


[Edited on 10-15-2010 by SoCal-Bob]

David K - 10-14-2010 at 09:56 PM

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Originally posted by SoCal-Bob
i dunno what's wrong with your club, but this jeep club looks pretty fearless:

[img]http://image.fourwheeler.com/f/9550174/129_0801_05_z+camp_jeep_2007+fishcer_price_toy_jeep.jpg[/img]


:biggrin:


[Edited on 10-15-2010 by SoCal-Bob]



Bob H - 10-14-2010 at 10:01 PM

David, are you doing shots of tequilla? ......... lol

motoged - 10-14-2010 at 10:16 PM

Q: Why is my Jeep club suddenly afraid of Baja?

A: They are all a bunch of weenies....they don't deserve Baja
:lol:

dtbushpilot - 10-14-2010 at 10:18 PM

What motoged said......dt

Steve&Debby - 10-17-2010 at 08:56 AM

Take thier Jeeps away from them,they are not tough enough to drive Jeeps.
Maybe they should get something like ,ah,um,yea a Toyota.:biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:

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wessongroup - 10-17-2010 at 12:01 PM

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Originally posted by krafty
wessongroup, where was the dude in the tree?


For the past year, first place stayed, rental two weeks in La Mision, 12 months El Pescador which is 9 miles south of Rosarito.. At the 4 way stop with the OXXO before you get to the Lobster Village..

I have been watching for entire time I have been down here.. people and drugs being moved up the coast from Ensenada.. which is a deep water port, DUH!!! with air landings occurring to the south of Ensenada...

In El Pescador.. they have been coming in over the past year in a troop truck.. they park.. everyone gets out.. about a platoon, with armor, extra ammo, they are locked and loaded... with a Humvee up above about 300 yards with a 50 cal located to give supporting fire.. they were military operations...

A few months back, they finally busted the "people smuggling" operations and the movement of pot of the coast (total of two busts one 650 kg, the other 1250 kg) which had been on going ..... beach access with a fishing operation next door for the "Lobster Village".. with 6-8 boats going out to check "traps" daily...and a road to the boats which a pickup or van could drive to from the "lobster village"... DUH!!

As for the guy in the tree, it's about the only tree left... they have all had their branches cut back to where they are only crows left... palms were left along.. but anything that obstructed vision or could be used to hide and/or store was taken care of ...

There are not multiple "visits" by military and the police in daylight and at night...

I don't think this guy will use the tree again.. scared the hell out of some of the folks... does kinda "jump out at ya" if you know what I mean.. talking a walk near the beach.. and you got a in a tree with a load rifle, radio.... ya it just kinda takes the romance out of it... me I don't care.. will not give his position away...

I don't see nothing, say nothing or talk about nothing... everything I have posted here is a lie... and Baja is just fun as hell... however.. I don't feel bad about all the slow business, me I'm selfish .... I like it with less people.. and I like the "no roads" folks here ..... agree 100% ... sorry ... but, make it hard .... not easy..

It has changed too much... it's still Mexico.. but, the increase in population by the "good roads" ... guess it's just progress...

Have to say, I will still have the memories of Baja of years and years ago.. and that will have to be it... but, that is ok... it was and still is a very interesting place just a few miles for some of us lucky ones that live in Southern California...

Just renewed my insurance for the car in Mexico for another year, the SENTI is good for another four years.. hell its all good..

Only wish I could get down to Mulege, Loreto and La Paz... the pictures you folks put up... its hard to take... OK... looks like such fun you get to have down there...

Don't know what I would do if no Russ and his just wonderful pictures every morning.. and many, many others... there are too many to list that put of pictures of their trips and fish and... all...

Thanks to ya all....

the tree, he just climbed it like any young man would ... with is arms, and legs... didn't see him get up... maybe someone tossed him his rifle after... but would think he should be able to climb a tree with his rifle slung.. wouldn't you... he is a solider after all...

Cypress - 10-17-2010 at 01:03 PM

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Originally posted by wessongroup
Quote:
Originally posted by krafty
wessongroup, where was the dude in the tree?

the tree, he just climbed it like any young man would ... with is arms, and legs... didn't see him get up... maybe someone tossed him his rifle after... but would think he should be able to climb a tree with his rifle slung.. wouldn't you... he is a solider after all...

Tie a string to the rifle and pull it up easy.:biggrin:

qtystarr - 10-18-2010 at 11:44 AM

I'm a blue eyed platinum blond gringa,I grew up here in Ensenada.got here in 1981 when I was 10.I have traveled all the Baja many,many times.My husband(who is Mexican)Races off road so we have been in the desert at night all over Baja.I have never felt unsafe,I have never seen any of the stuff that's is all over the news in the US.They make ti sound like it is the old west here in Baja with blood running in the streets..Yes there is a drug war going on.Yes there is violence and bad things happening.But not on every street corner.Some drug dealer kills another drug dealer in Tijuana and it is all over the news in the states.How many shootings happened in Los Angeles last week?Both are big city's and a lot of things happen.

It is sad how the bad press has hurt tourism` and scared a lot of people from coming down.and enjoying this beautiful land.There is nothing like the sunrise in the Baja desert!

To confirm my living soul

mcfez - 10-19-2010 at 02:45 PM

Well.....I am alive. No troubles here in Baja. Got here last Friday night...yes...drove at night!. So...rumors and jazzed up reports it must be. Travel Baja!