BajaNomad - Neighbor found bound, gagged and murdered in Rosarito. (Updated: 2 suspects apprehended, photos of murderers)

Neighbor found bound, gagged and murdered in Rosarito. (Updated: 2 suspects apprehended, photos of murderers)

Woooosh - 12-6-2010 at 02:43 PM

It's always sad when this stuff happens. A neighbor of mine named Jay was found beaten to death in his house this morning. He was bound hand and foot and his mouth taped. His house had been robbed. A shaved head "cholo-type" was driving his car around the past day or so- who is the main suspect I would guess. The police took his body away this morning in a SEMFO van. They are searching the whole property and have the yellow tape around it. Jay was a US Citizen from Puerto Rico and worked for the telephone company stateside. We last waved hello to him on Friday. I guess it was also a goodbye wave. His little Chihuahua is still roaming around the yard looking for him I guess. Very sad.

[Edited on 12-6-2010 by Woooosh]

[Edited on 12-7-2010 by Woooosh]

[Edited on 12-11-2010 by Woooosh]

DENNIS - 12-6-2010 at 02:51 PM

Terrible news, Woooosh. Sorry to hear this.
Hard to figure...the prime suspect is driving around town in his car with seemingly no fear of apprehension.
Is there anybody to take care of his dog?

sanquintinsince73 - 12-6-2010 at 04:32 PM

So sad to hear of this. This is just going to add more wood to the fire as far as our media sensationalizing crime in Mexico.

Did Jay live alone? What part of Rosarito?

Woooosh - 12-6-2010 at 04:55 PM

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Originally posted by DENNIS
Terrible news, Woooosh. Sorry to hear this.
Hard to figure...the prime suspect is driving around town in his car with seemingly no fear of apprehension.
Is there anybody to take care of his dog?

The dog is still in the yard. The gates are sealed by the PGJE though. The police towed his other car. I'll throw some kibble through the fence the dog gets some food. He lived alone. I never got into his personal life in our curbside conversations- so don't know about him having any local family to take care of the dog. I went over to take some pics and the dog was barking up a storm at me. My nephew even saw the guy driving the car over the weekend. The car is still missing as far as I know.

This is a learning opportunity, especially in light of the Cables. I know this murder happened. Jay was a Puerto Rican working for the telephone company in the USA. Most likely a US citizen. Let's watch for any published news and see if ANYONE at all reports this. That will tell us if we're still being treated like mushrooms here.

Condolences to the Family

Gypsy Jan - 12-6-2010 at 04:57 PM

I am so sorry for this horrible thing that happened to your neighbor.

I hope that the authorities will swiftly bring the person(s) to justice.

DENNIS - 12-6-2010 at 04:58 PM

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Originally posted by Woooosh
Most likely a US citizen. Let's watch for any published news and see if ANYONE at all reports this. That will tell us if we're still being treated like mushrooms here.

It has to be reported to the US Consolate, at least.

Bajahowodd - 12-6-2010 at 05:13 PM

Just me musing. Seems that Woooosh had a perfunctory relationship with this guy. Gotta wonder what his real story was. Can't imagine living in Rosarito and having a full time job NOB. Really long commute. The Puerto Rican thing. Did he have an accent? Could it have been a cover story? Just thinking out loud.

toneart - 12-6-2010 at 05:36 PM

Wow! This has got be unnerving for you, Wooosh. I am sorry this happened so close to your home. Condolences to the family.

Thank you for informing us. Everyone else must refrain from speculation until the real story is revealed, out of sympathy, sensitivity and respect. RIP

capt. mike - 12-6-2010 at 05:40 PM

people who live in Rosarito and commute everyday to the San Diego area for their full time jobs-

wow!! what a freaking hassle??!
who would put up with that every day? why not just live in chula vista??
anyway - bad news, sorry to hear.

i am staying away from baja norte - it is just too out of control with these knot heads

Woooosh - 12-6-2010 at 05:47 PM

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Originally posted by toneart
Wow! This has got be unnerving for you, Wooosh. I am sorry this happened so close to your home. Condolences to the family.

Thank you for informing us. Everyone else must refrain from speculation until the real story is revealed, out of sympathy, sensitivity and respect. RIP

Yeah, that would refreshing for a change. I don't know the percentage of people who commute to work from Rosarito Beach to San Diego but it is high, and definitely not unusual or out of the ordinary. The neighborhood is called Villas del Mar in central downtown Rosarito. If you were to take the 4th Rosarito exit (the newer one after the McDonalds exit with the PeMex gas station and Jersey Lechera plastic cows) and stayed on it west to the water- you cross the main blvd (Benito Juarez) at the light and be on Via de Las Olas and pass by his house. He lived about twenty houses from the water. This is a neighbor I was friendly with, not a personal friend. He was a friend, brother and son to someone who loved him though.

DENNIS - 12-6-2010 at 05:54 PM

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Originally posted by Bajahowodd
Can't imagine living in Rosarito and having a full time job NOB. Really long commute.

There are two types of border crosser..........those with Sentri and those without.

mtgoat666 - 12-6-2010 at 08:00 PM

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Originally posted by Bajahowodd
Can't imagine living in Rosarito and having a full time job NOB. Really long commute.

maybe he telecommuted many days?? just because you got a job does not mean you go to an office every day!

DENNIS - 12-6-2010 at 08:08 PM

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Originally posted by Woooosh
The police towed his other car.

I shouldn't have to ask, but why did they tow his car? I'll bet it was decent.

Woooosh - 12-6-2010 at 08:14 PM

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Originally posted by DENNIS

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Originally posted by Woooosh
The police towed his other car.

I shouldn't have to ask, but why did they tow his car? I'll bet it was decent.

Dennis! No it was sh*tbox as they say back east. He had a "For Sale" sign on the house, then switched to a "For Rent" sign. The car they towed had a For Sale message soaped in the back window. Looks like he was trying to get out of town, it just wasn't going fast enough. Damned real estate market. He was hanged inside his house, so it wasn't a simple robbery. It wasn't drugs or something narco-related or the big-gun police like the State Police or Marinos would have been there. All he got was the PGJE and the Tourist police. Oh yeah, and local Rosarito Cable TV54.

bajatravelergeorge - 12-6-2010 at 08:15 PM

I wonder how long it will take for someone to suggest this guy was into drugs.

DENNIS - 12-6-2010 at 08:16 PM

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Originally posted by bajatravelergeorge
I wonder how long it will take for someone to suggest this guy was into drugs.

I guess you just covered that.

Sorry. I didn't see Woooosh's last post.

.

[Edited on 12-7-2010 by DENNIS]

DENNIS - 12-6-2010 at 08:21 PM

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Originally posted by Woooosh
It wasn't drugs or something narco-related or the big-gun police like the State Police or Marinos would have been there. All he got was the PGJE and the Tourist police. Oh yeah, and local Rosarito Cable TV54.

I thought PGJE was State Judicial.

Woooosh - 12-6-2010 at 08:24 PM

They are. It was the Tourist Police presence I thought was weak.

Hook - 12-6-2010 at 08:31 PM

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Originally posted by sanquintinsince73
This is just going to add more wood to the fire as far as our media sensationalizing crime in Mexico.

Just how does one "sensationalize" a murder? It's pretty sensational all by itself.

Something like 26,000 and counting since 2006.

If anything, the world is becoming desensitized to murder in Mexico.

sanquintinsince73 - 12-6-2010 at 08:33 PM

I just finished watching the six-o'clock Tijuana news and there was no mention of this incident. Some joker asked here why would anyone live in Rosarito and commute to the states....because Rosarito is a damn nice place to live!!

BajaBlanca - 12-6-2010 at 08:47 PM

very sad. RIP.

Woooosh - 12-6-2010 at 09:27 PM

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Originally posted by Hook

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Originally posted by sanquintinsince73
This is just going to add more wood to the fire as far as our media sensationalizing crime in Mexico.

If anything the media has greatly been under-reporting the crime and it's impact because of pressure from the tourism and cross-border business sectors. That's one of the things I got from the State Dept. Cables. TJ was going down the tubes, the gov't admits it had lost control of the region, it was/is nearly under martial law and none of this was caused by the media. I find it repugnant of Mexico to have put out the "welcome Mat" and promote tourism under those security conditions. jmho though.

[Edited on 12-7-2010 by Woooosh]

MsTerieus - 12-6-2010 at 09:36 PM

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Originally posted by sanquintinsince73
I just finished watching the six-o'clock Tijuana news and there was no mention of this incident. Some joker asked here why would anyone live in Rosarito and commute to the states....because Rosarito is a damn nice place to live!!

And I am guessing that the cost of living there is cheaper than in San Diego.

ElFaro - 12-6-2010 at 10:04 PM

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Originally posted by Woooosh

If anything the media has greatly been under-reporting the crime and it's impact because of pressure from the tourism and cross-border business sectors. That's one of the things I got from the State Dept. Cables. TJ was going down the tubes, the gov't admits it had lost control of the region, it was/is nearly under martial law and none of this was caused by the media. I find it repugnant of Mexico to have put out the "welcome Mat" and promote tourism under those security conditions. jmho though.

Hey Woooosh...I read your reports with great interest. I recently received a monthly letter from a friend I support who's Missions organization works in Tijuana in the poorer barrios on a regular basis. Here is a quote from the letter he wrote for Nov. about how they see things now as they stand in Tijuana..."The Peso continues to go south, tourism has dried up leaving prostitution, drugs, and human trafficking as the basic economy. (We wonder how much longer Tijuana can hold together until something comes apart.)" There are a number of Mexicans I have talked to who once lived in Tecate, Tijuana, and Playas who have moved up over the border to get away from the daily crime. A Mexican friend I know who lives in Tecate just had his Bronco stolen while parked in the "line" on the Mex side of the Tecate gate. He just put in a new motor, tires, battery. 3 weeks now and no car.

Woooosh - 12-6-2010 at 11:31 PM

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Originally posted by ElFaro

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The people on the streets know what they see with their own eyes. There is lots of factory work in Tijuana but nothing to keep your head above the rising water of inflation. Yes, many have moved to Chula Vista. I've heard that Tijuana is now called the Bangkok of the East because of the child sex industry. $5000 a head to be smuggled to the USA from Rosarito in an open fishing "panga"- 25 seats per boat. But those problems are common and prevalent in every third world country.

I never expected Mexico to be crime free or for us to live more safely in Rosarito than in the USA. We decided the pluses of living here were worth the risks. We had the ability to build a house that fit my family and our security needs. Yes, we built before the boom, narco shock and awe, and bust stages- but I always knew security was going to be important. What I did expect was actionable information in regards to what is happening around us. We went through one kidnap attempt (PGJE said they were "delinquents who intended to do us harm.") and an armed carjack attempt in TJ at noon. We went back to the carjack scene and noticed all the security cameras placed along the Via Rapida tourist route had been removed. Removed while the State Department Travel Advisories were cautioning about violence near the border. While I was seeing the crime affect me personally here, I saw the media being blamed for overstating the level of crime. But I could see the truth with with my own eyes. My neighbors were afraid and were seeing the same things. I'm not mad about the crime per se, I'm made about both sides not painting a more accurate reflection of what was really happening here. With few exceptions, the local powers (both sides of the border) were intent on keeping the commerce and tourist dollars flowing- no matter the risk to tourists. I moved down here knowing the risks and planning for them. That is not the same as inviting tourists who are not prepared.

bajamigo - 12-7-2010 at 10:09 AM

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Originally posted by Bajahowodd
Just me musing. Seems that Woooosh had a perfunctory relationship with this guy. Gotta wonder what his real story was. Can't imagine living in Rosarito and having a full time job NOB. Really long commute. The Puerto Rican thing. Did he have an accent? Could it have been a cover story? Just thinking out loud.

Why the hell do we always assume the worst about people whose deaths are not fully explainable? This poor guy was just unlucky. And what kind of racist crap is "the Puerto Rican thing"???? Next time you "think out loud" put a bag over your head...paper or plastic.

MsTerieus - 12-7-2010 at 10:25 AM

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Originally posted by bajamigo
And what kind of racist crap is "the Puerto Rican thing"???? Next time you "think out loud" put a bag over your head...paper or plastic.

Woooosh - 12-7-2010 at 10:33 AM

There is a story out today about the murder. The photo is correct and the name "Jake", close enough to Jay. The article says pretty much what my original post did with the exception he was naked.

http://www.oem.com.mx/elsoldetijuana/notas/n1880229.htm

True to form, the Mexico police are reporting the man is from South America. Yes, Puerto Rico is off the coast of South America. And what country of origin is "South America"? Still no reports NOB, but given his nationality has been masked- you likely won't see anything. If a Hawaiian man had died in Mexico, he would have been from the "South Pacific". Mexican Police Geography Distortion 101. As far as I know being from Puerto Rico make him a US Citizen- not South American. This is how they distort the crime stats to make Rosarito appear to be a safe destination for ex-pats and tourists.

[Edited on 12-7-2010 by Woooosh]

DENNIS - 12-7-2010 at 10:41 AM

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Originally posted by bajamigo
Why the hell do we always assume the worst about people whose deaths are not fully explainable?

I know. It's a bad mindset although, given the area, Rosarito, and the relatively common occurance of mayhem, murder, corruption and official denial, I don't believe it's a completely unreasonable question.
In fact, I believe the same gruesome questions are thought, if not voiced, by everybody living in the Cartel active regions, such as Rosarito.
To ignore the possibility is pure denial and that reaction is counter-productive and dangerous to anybody who drops his guard.

What I'm trying to say, Vince, is that Rosarito is a human sht-hole and I believe you're aware of that.

Woooosh - 12-7-2010 at 12:04 PM

A neighbor just told me the PGJE took 4 men into custody for the murder of Jake Alvarez, 45- a citizen of "South America". :rolleyes:

BajaBlanca - 12-7-2010 at 12:22 PM

wow, fast action if they really got 4 guys into custody. I am impressed.

Woooosh - 12-7-2010 at 12:37 PM

Another article now says he was from Nicaragua. I doubt that very much- but that's what they are going with. Everyone here says he said he was from Puerto Rico. That leaves the possibility he lied all along about his nationality. No one here believes he was from Nicaragua.

Yes, Blanca- fast and good news.

You want a "Twilight Zone" moment on this? I sent my nephew over to Jay's house with some kibble for the dog and a candle. The dog ate right away and he lit and put the candle next to the fence. He blessed himself and his "locked" cell phone rang. He didn't recognize the number and was out of cell phone credits. When he got to his girlfriends house he called the number. A man with a feminine voice answered and asked how Emilio got his number. Emilio explained that the phone rang while he was placing a candle outside a neighbors house who had been killed. The man knew the victim as his friend and even described his red car to Emilio. The man was upset by the news of his friends death and hung up. The dead man used my nephew to contact his friend? How crazy is that? And this was last night, before any public news of the murder.

[Edited on 12-7-2010 by Woooosh]

bajaguy - 12-7-2010 at 08:21 PM

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Originally posted by soulpatch

Hell, I've even tried to talk my wife into moving to Punta Banda until I retire and I would commute.
She ain't havin' it, though.

Hey, tell her we are friendly!!!!

Nancy Drew - 12-8-2010 at 01:56 AM

Very sad story, I suppose we will never know why , strange that the thieves would be riding around in the evidence unless they sold car .

Reminds me of what happened to Chopy a few years back, I read somewhere he was beaten to death, the details of who did it and why were never revealed.

R8A - 12-8-2010 at 01:59 PM

Jay was a good friend of ours,we recently were in contact because the death of my son.
Jay was also a good friend to my aunt who also passed a couple of years ago.
He would always take care of her house and were always welcome to stay at his when ever.
My wife and kids have nothing but good memories of Jay he was a good friend and all around good person.
He did not deserve to go that way.
I hope the people that caused his death will be punished for their doings.
he lived in Rosarito because he loved the people and was close to the beach which you can see from the house and walk to it.

BajaGringo - 12-8-2010 at 02:09 PM

Really sorry to hear - very sad news...

DENNIS - 12-8-2010 at 03:34 PM

R8A.....My condolences.

Tell us, if you will, was he Puerto Ricano or Nicaraguan? The reports give both.

desertcpl - 12-8-2010 at 06:19 PM

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Originally posted by DENNIS
R8A.....My condolences.

Tell us, if you will, was he Puerto Ricano or Nicaraguan? The reports give both.

Dennis

I have been following this tread. you are not the only one that is making a point about his nationality.

Honestly, what does that have to do with anything?

(here goes)

DENNIS - 12-8-2010 at 07:42 PM

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Originally posted by desertcpl

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Originally posted by DENNIS
R8A.....My condolences.

Tell us, if you will, was he Puerto Ricano or Nicaraguan? The reports give both.

Dennis

I have been following this tread. you are not the only one that is making a point about his nationality.

Honestly, what does that have to do with anything?

(here goes)

It doesn't have anything to do with anything. Confusion just makes me curious.
I mean...glaring errors such as this make me wonder why I bother to read the news.

desertcpl - 12-8-2010 at 07:56 PM

well next time I am down your way , lets have a drink and we both can get confused together, it doesn't take much for me now,
,Salute

DENNIS - 12-8-2010 at 07:57 PM

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Originally posted by desertcpl
well next time I am down your way , lets have a drink and we both can get confused together, it doesn't take much for me now,
,Salute

Right on.

wessongroup - 12-8-2010 at 07:58 PM

Don't stop Dennis... you give me hope... thats how bad off I am...

[Edited on 12-10-2010 by wessongroup]

DENNIS - 12-8-2010 at 08:04 PM

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Originally posted by wessongroup
Don't stop Dennis... you give me hope... thanks how bad off I am...

You're doing fine, Wiley. :biggrin:

Woooosh - 12-9-2010 at 11:23 AM

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Originally posted by R8A
Jay was a good friend of ours,we recently were in contact because the death of my son.
Jay was also a good friend to my aunt who also passed a couple of years ago.
He would always take care of her house and were always welcome to stay at his when ever.
My wife and kids have nothing but good memories of Jay he was a good friend and all around good person.
He did not deserve to go that way.
I hope the people that caused his death will be punished for their doings.
he lived in Rosarito because he loved the people and was close to the beach which you can see from the house and walk to it.

Hello R8A. Welcome to Baja Nomads and thank you for what must have been a difficult post during your time of loss. All ex-pats feel deeply about the safety and quality of life we enjoy in Rosarito. Those of us who live near Jay know him exactly as you have described. I didn't know Jay well- just as a friendly neighbor who always had a smile and would pull his little red car over to chat we me for a few moments. This horrible crime deeply effects us all. I understand four of Jay's "friends" were arrested for his murder. That makes it all the more horrible.

Dennis asked about Jay's nationality likely because we all want to make sure Mexico reports crimes against US Citizens accurately. He means no disrespect. Understanding this crime and following it through to the prosecution of Jay's murderers is important to all of us living here. The truth is always important and leads to understanding. We knew Jay as a Puerto Rican who worked for the phone company stateside. The police have reported he was "South American", and then Nicaraguan. It is also very unusual the four murderers were not paraded in front of media cameras- which is the standard protocol down here for every criminal apprehended. It makes the people think the police are effective. In Jay's murder, to me it seems like they are keeping his murder "under the radar" by intent. Tourism is vital to Rosarito and we understand the pressure police feel to make crimes against Americans go away and I want to make sure Jay's death is properly recorder and not covered-up. That would be an insult to his death. Thanks again your post and please accept my personal condolences.

R8A - 12-9-2010 at 12:45 PM

He was From Nicaragua.
Any Information is Welcomed ,We Have Heard From His Sister,But Do not want to Disclose anything Yet.
She has Confirmed it was Him.
He Had Worked For The Phone Company in The States as long as I Remember.

Woooosh - 12-9-2010 at 03:08 PM

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Originally posted by R8A
He was From Nicaragua.
Any Information is Welcomed ,We Have Heard From His Sister,But Do not want to Disclose anything Yet.
She has Confirmed it was Him.
He Had Worked For The Phone Company in The States as long as I Remember.

Thank you for the kind reply.

Rest in Peace Jay Alvares

ForTheLove2010 - 12-10-2010 at 02:06 AM

ForTheLove2010 - 12-10-2010 at 02:10 AM

I just wanted to let you all know that Jay was a beautiful loving person and we who loved him are very studded and in shock of his murder. Jay opened his home to many of us and we all loved going to Rosarito to visit with him. He was part of our family and will always be a great part of our memories. He looked out for my sister-in-law when she moved to Baja and was her confidant. Jay would always call her “Ama”, meaning mother. He was like her adopted son. Jay always looked out her home when she passed and would keep her family informed of what was going on. I have many happy and wonderful memories of Jay and the times we spent with him partying, having BBQ’s, going to Ensenada, going to TJ, and just the good old times at Coco’s. Jay loved his dog and I hope someone will take good care of him and give him a happy home. I remember clearly about 2 years ago we went down to Rosarito on a Harley Run and when we drove up to Jay’s with 4 other motorcycles and Jay did not turn us away. We all stood at his home and he was so happy to have us there. Jay was one of those people who is loved. I will miss you dearly. God bless you and rest in peace.

Love,
Amanda and family

krafty - 12-10-2010 at 01:13 PM

Yeah, Dennis, and while you are at it, lay off Rosarito! It is a fine place to live as long as you mind your p's and q's, like every other place.

Cypress - 12-10-2010 at 01:25 PM

RIP Jay.

DENNIS - 12-10-2010 at 01:38 PM

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Originally posted by krafty
Yeah, Dennis, and while you are at it, lay off Rosarito! It is a fine place to live as long as you mind your p's and q's, like every other place.

Correct me if I'm wrong....you have property there and are thinking of selling it with some advertising here on Nomad.

Cypress - 12-10-2010 at 01:49 PM

Yea, Hidden agendas! :spingrin:

krafty - 12-10-2010 at 03:49 PM

no way Jose

BajaNews - 12-10-2010 at 09:51 PM

http://www.rosaritoenlanoticia.info/2010/12/caen-asesinos-su...

ROSARITO.- La Policía Ministerial logró la detención de los dos presuntos asesinos de una persona residente de Estados Unidos que vivía en esta ciudad, uno de los cuales fue el que lo que amarró de pies y manos, para luego ahorcarlo, en un hecho que ocurrió el pasado domingo en el interior de una vivienda ubicada en la calle Vías de las Olas número 186 del fraccionamiento Villas del Mar.

El subprocurador de Justicia de Zona, Rafael González Cervantes, informó que se trató de un crimen pasional en el que el ex pareja sentimental del ahora fallecido pagó mil pesos con el propósito de que lo asesinaran porque lo seguía molestando después de haber roto la relación sentimental hace cuatro meses.

Precisó que el primero de los detenidos como presunto responsable del delito de homicidio calificado responde al nombre de Jonathan Eduardo de Jesús Flores González (a) “El Éder”, ex pareja de quien fue identificado como Jay Álvarez, quien dio una larga lista de los homosexuales conocidos en la ciudad, algunos de los cuales fueron involucrados en la investigación.

Indicó que de acuerdo con su declaración ministerial “El Éder” aceptó que mantenía una relación sentimental con el “Jay”, con el que en diversas ocasiones sostuvo encuentros sexuales, pero que hace cuatro meses decidió romperla porque era muy violento cuando tomaba licor.

Asentó también que como la citada persona lo siguió molestando, aun cuando él ya tenía una relación con otro hombre de tendencia homosexual, decidió “solucionar” el problema y le pagó mil pesos a Jesús Damián López Valdez (a) “El Güero”, con domicilio en la colonia Lucio Blanco, que fue el que se encargó de asesinar a Jay Álvarez el pasado domingo. (el mexicano)

Señaló que tanto el presunto autor intelectual y material del crimen se encontraban ayer en las celdas de la Policía Ministerial, para su consignación ante el Juzgado de Primera Instancia del Ramo Penal, por el delito de homicidio calificado.

[Edited on 12-11-2010 by BajaNews]

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sanquintinsince73 - 12-10-2010 at 10:30 PM

Unbelievable....for a measly mil-pesos they took a human life, and not only a human life but from what i've read, a super-nice human being. Unreal.

Woooosh - 12-11-2010 at 10:09 AM

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Originally posted by sanquintinsince73
Unbelievable....for a measly mil-pesos they took a human life, and not only a human life but from what i've read, a super-nice human being. Unreal.

Fulano has a bog entry today:

***********.blogspot.com/2010/12/death-in-rosarito-of-jay-alvarez.html

We recognize the guy in the left photo as the man who was often in Jay's yard washing his cars. The actual murderer is a dirtbag from our area as well. So, Rosarito has a "list of known homosexuals" they interviewed to gather these leads? I wonder how that list came to be formalized?

RIP Jay Alvarez. Now we know the truth about your untimely death. Gay or Straight it is often a spurned lover who commits these horrible crimes of passion. 1000 pesos for a human life is just sick.

[Edited on 12-11-2010 by BajaNomad]

DENNIS - 12-11-2010 at 10:50 AM

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Originally posted by Woooosh
Rosarito has a "list of known homosexuals" they interviewed to gather these leads? I wonder how that list came to be formalized?

From what I hear, the mayor might have supplied it.

tripledigitken - 12-11-2010 at 11:03 AM

1,000 pesos? That I'm still processing, it will take awhile!!!

Ken

DENNIS - 12-11-2010 at 11:10 AM

It adds to one's personal level of security when "Murder For Hire" has an exorbitant price tag, but when the price drops to pocket change, it gives an uncomfortable, vulnerable feeling, like...even the paper boy could afford to have someone killed.

LaloinBaja - 12-11-2010 at 01:03 PM

One of the reasons we are moving further South...Quieter and less Chollos...Really a tradgedy...Hope the dog will be adopted...Heartfelt to the family...Lalo

ForTheLove2010 - 12-11-2010 at 01:14 PM

We're very saddened to hear of our dear friend's passing. We have many fond memories of him. No matter when we went he always opened his doors to us. From family to our friends, he took us in & treated us as his own. He brought smiles to our face & was very funny. We will never forget that about Jay. May he rest in peace...

-The Rodrigo Family

BajaBlanca - 12-11-2010 at 01:14 PM

RIP

Cypress - 12-11-2010 at 01:20 PM

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Originally posted by DENNIS
It adds to one's personal level of security when "Murder For Hire" has an exorbitant price tag, but when the price drops to pocket change, it gives an uncomfortable, vulnerable feeling, like...even the paper boy could afford to have someone killed.

Yea, there're "things" out there that will kill you just for the hell-uv-it.

Bajahowodd - 12-11-2010 at 05:10 PM

Just thinking that in sorting out the details, if this had happened NOB, it may well be considered not only a crime of passion by a spurned lover, but actually a hate crime.