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JAIL BREAK -----GOING HOME FOR CHRISTMAS ---- THE MADNESS CONTINUES

DENNIS - 12-18-2010 at 05:47 AM

141 inmates escape Mexican border prison
The Associated Press
MEXICO CITY -- Nearly 150 inmates escaped Friday from a state prison in the northern Mexico border city of Nuevo Laredo, and authorities said the breakout was probably helped by prison employees.

The public safety department of Tamaulipas state, where the prison is located near the border with Laredo, Texas, said 141 inmates got out through a service entrance used by vehicles, "presumably with the assistance of the prison staff."

The department said the prison's director could not be located, adding that he and other officials were under investigation.

Eighty-three of the prisoners were being held for trial or had been convicted of crimes like theft, assault and other state offenses, while 58 were being held on federal charges, which include weapons possession and drug trafficking.

Tamaulipas has been plagued by a steady wave of violence tied to turf battles between the Gulf and Zetas drug gangs, but it was unclear whether members of those groups were among the escaped inmates.

States like Tamaulipas have said in the past they are not prepared to handle highly dangerous federal prisoners, and again on Friday the state urged the federal government to take charge of such inmates.

"The state does not have the capacity to prevent them escaping," the department said in a statement.

The federal Interior Department blamed the breakout on local authorities, saying they did not properly guard the facility.

"The absence of effective methods of guarding and control by local authorities is deplorable, and it has caused frequent escapes from prisons that put the public at risk," the department said in a statement.

It called on state authorities to clean up their prison and judicial systems by increased screening and vetting of corrections officers. In past cases, prison guards - often underpaid or under threat from gangs - have been implicated in prison escapes.

Federal police and soldiers were dispatched to patrol the area, and a search for escaped prisoners was begun.

The jail break apparently occurred in the pre-dawn hours Friday.

The escape came on the same day that federal Public Safety Secretary Genaro Garcia Luna addressed a graduating class of new prison guards, underlining the urgent need to professionalize correctional forces.

"We are making a historic effort to build a new prisons model, that will treat prison staff as efficient public servants," Garcia Luna said.

The new guard recruitment programs, supported in part by the U.S. government, include increased training, screening and vetting of guards.



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woody with a view - 12-18-2010 at 07:14 AM

"The state does not have the capacity to prevent them escaping,"

unbelievable..... sounds like more spin/cover for the directors who will be found a piece at a time

desertcpl - 12-18-2010 at 09:10 AM

doesn't surprise me at all.. the corruption in Mexico is epidemic.. I wouldn't be surprised some time down the line the Mexicans citizens will revolt big time,, they will finally have enought,

what is your take on this Nomads

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desertcpl - 12-18-2010 at 10:29 AM

here is what I talking about, this was posted on Fulano files just a few days ago



Mexico Outraged By Killing of Anti-Crime Crusader

Sign: "If it was your daughter,
what would you do?"
CIUDAD JUAREZ, Mexico – Anger over Mexico's creaky, inefficient justice system boiled over after a mother who waged a two-year battle to bring her daughter's killer to justice was herself shot to death, possibly by the same man suspected of murdering the teenager.

A security video recording shows masked men pulling up in a car in front of the governor's office in the northern city of Chihuahua. One appeared to exchange words with anti-crime crusader Marisela Escobedo Ortiz, who was holding a vigil outside.

She tried to flee by running across the street, but the gunman chased her down and shot her in the head late Thursday, said Jorge Gonzalez, special state prosecutor for crime prevention.

Escobedo was taken by ambulance to a hospital, where she died within minutes.

On Friday, a group of demonstrators gathered outside the Interior Department in Mexico City to protest the killing, briefly scuffling with police while chanting "Not one more death!"

And far to the north in Ciudad Juarez, where Escobedo's 17-year-old daughter's burned and dismembered remains were found in a trash bin in June 2009, activists protested outside the state prosecutors office with signs demanding "Justice for Marisela."

Thursday's slaying "shows that in Mexico it is the victim who suffers, without protection," veteran anti-crime activist Alejandro Marti said.

The scandal resulted in the suspension of three judges who had ordered the release of the main suspect in the daughter's killing after he was absolved by a court in April for lack of evidence.

That man, Sergio Barraza, is now a chief suspect in the mother's death, said Carlos Gonzalez, a spokesman for the attorney general's office in Chihuahua state, where Ciudad Juarez is located.

Escobedo's daughter, Rubi Frayre Escobedo, disappeared in Ciudad Juarez, across from El Paso, Texas, in 2008.

After the body was discovered last year, the mother launched a campaign pressing for a conviction in the case. Escobedo staged numerous marches, once wearing no clothes, wrapped only in a banner with her daughter's photograph.

"This struggle is not only for my daughter," Escobedo said through a megaphone at that march, her voice breaking. "Let's not allow one more young woman to be killed in this city."

Three days ago, she planted herself in front of the offices of Gov. Cesar Duarte and vowed not to move until investigators showed progress in the case. In an interview with the newspaper El Diario on Sunday, Escobedo said she had received death threats from Barraza's family.

Duarte said state security officials had been assigned to guard Escobedo, although from a distance. He said their failure to protect her Thursday would be investigated.

Duarte had also called on the state's top court to suspend the three judges.

On Friday, court president Javier Ramirez Benitez said they would be suspended pending an investigation. Ramirez Benitez said an oversight commission found earlier this year that the case was improperly handled.

Prosecutors said Barraza, Frayre's live-in boyfriend, admitted murdering her and led police to the body. But at trial he proclaimed his innocence and claimed he had been tortured into confessing. The judges ruled in April that prosecutors failed to present material evidence against him.

The case exemplifies the problems of the judicial system in Chihuahua state, one of the first to adopt oral trials instead of the closed-door interrogations and filings of documents used for most Mexican trials.

Despite training, Chihuahua police and prosecutors have struggled to adapt to a system that puts the burden of proof on prosecutors. Many homicide cases have been thrown out for lack of evidence or never make it to trial.

Often, police rely solely on confessions that suspects later claim were made under duress. Newly captured suspects in much of Mexico are often displayed to the press with bruised faces.

Police in Ciudad Juarez have been overwhelmed by drug gang battles that have made the city one of the world's deadliest. More than 3,000 people have been killed in the city of 1.3 million this year alone.

Records obtained by The Associated Press show that last year, when 2,600 people were killed in Ciudad Juarez, prosecutors filed 93 homicide cases and got 19 convictions.

Chihuahua's judicial deficiencies go back years before the new system was implemented, before drug violence soared to unprecedented levels.

In the 1990s, hundreds of women were killed around Ciudad Juarez, about 100 of whom were sexually assaulted and dumped in the desert. Here's a newstory about the incident in Spanish.


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Woooosh - 12-18-2010 at 11:54 AM

How many times can we say Mexico is "Stuck on Stupid" and expect the outcome to be different "next time". Stuck is stuck. I don't know why they even bother jailing people for serious offenses- the connected ones get right out and only makes the people more ticked off. They need to extradite offenders involved in the narco-war to the USA where the jail cells have locks. But this is how jail guard make their Christmas money and no one wants to be the last one to take a bribe and get paid like everyone else.

DENNIS - 12-18-2010 at 12:04 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Woooosh
They need to extradite offenders involved in the narco-war to the USA where the jail cells have locks.



I doubt the US has room for another 20 million prisoners.
Maybe let Joe Arpaio take care of it.

Woooosh - 12-18-2010 at 02:13 PM

PGR arrested the entire jail staff. The jail staff will confess, then turn over their ill-gotten bribe money to the PGR, who will then turn every peso over to their bosses. Of course.

http://www.oem.com.mx/elsoldemexico/notas/n1894785.htm

lizard lips - 12-18-2010 at 02:32 PM

I read about the story in Juarez yesterday on another site and it made me physically ill but it didn't surprise me. This is what it has come to. All of the judges must be punished now and I hope they see the inside of a jail cell. But always with enough money to the proper person and a slap on the wrist and it will all go away.

I have investigated at least 60 murders in the state of Chihuahua in the last ten years. I won't go there anymore. I won't go anywhere along the border in Texas as I had for several years. I have turned down at least 20k in business in the past year because it is now to dangerous.

I did go to Juarez in July for two days and could not believe all of the businesses that have shut the door. Corruption at it finest. My heart goes out to all of those who must live there and have no other option. My brother in law had worked for a miqiladora in Juarez for Ford for 25 years that closed and has a degree in engineering and is now pumping gas at a Pemex. He can't move now and must support his family any way he can.

It's not the Mexico I have loved for so many years. We all know about the political corruption that Mexico has dealt with since Cortez stepped foot off the boat but now we have a whole new chapter and it's a horror story to say the least.

Woooosh - 12-18-2010 at 02:56 PM

How this has affected your family is horrible. This is not a good omen for the "new" judicial system. This happened where the soon-to-come-to TJ legal reforms (open arguments in court) have already been enacted. I think they though watching LA Law would be enough courtroom training for them.

DENNIS - 12-18-2010 at 03:28 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Woooosh
How this has affected your family is horrible. This is not a good omen for the "new" judicial system. This happened where the soon-to-come-to TJ legal reforms (open arguments in court) have already been enacted. I think they though watching LA Law would be enough courtroom training for them.


We won't live so long to see the new procedures [new to Mexico anyway] be implemented. The transition will be much more than redesigning the courtroom with a jury box and a judges bench. The characteristic most resistant to change will be the established judges in the judicial system coming to terms with losing ultimate power and their manipulations of the new order to avoid that end.

Ironically, some future defendents awaiting trial will be best versed in the new system having been an active part of it in the past for their transgressions while visiting the US. Maybe they should be the judges.

Woooosh - 12-18-2010 at 03:49 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by DENNIS
Quote:
Originally posted by Woooosh
How this has affected your family is horrible. This is not a good omen for the "new" judicial system. This happened where the soon-to-come-to TJ legal reforms (open arguments in court) have already been enacted. I think they though watching LA Law would be enough courtroom training for them.


We won't live so long to see the new procedures [new to Mexico anyway] be implemented. The transition will be much more than redesigning the courtroom with a jury box and a judges bench. The characteristic most resistant to change will be the established judges in the judicial system coming to terms with losing ultimate power and their manipulations of the new order to avoid that end.

Ironically, some future defendents awaiting trial will be best versed in the new system having been an active part of it in the past for their transgressions while visiting the US. Maybe they should be the judges.

Apparently they already have this new open court system in Juarez, but the prosecutors didn't make their case although the man did not deny he did it. That's why the public outrage against the judges. Maybe next will be jury trials? Can you imagine what a mess that would be?

desertcpl - 12-18-2010 at 03:56 PM

1. legalize guns

2. death penalty , quick

DENNIS - 12-18-2010 at 04:06 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Woooosh
Apparently they already have this new open court system in Juarez, but the prosecutors didn't make their case although the man did not deny he did it. That's why the public outrage against the judges. Maybe next will be jury trials? Can you imagine what a mess that would be?



It's almost, if not completely impossible to attribute anything good to a legal system in Cd. Juarez. The place is soulless. A morgue with a waiting list.

toneart - 12-18-2010 at 04:21 PM

Dennis, Woooosh, Lizard Lips- Violence is intensifying in Rosorito and surrounding areas too. Are you guys comfortable hangin' in?

This is not a trap leading to criticism. I am not a troll. It is necessary for all of us to constantly reassess. You guys are in the trenches, so to speak, and are better references for current conditions than anything we can glean from the media, or from armchair nob Baja know-it-alls.

DENNIS - 12-18-2010 at 04:42 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by toneart
You guys are in the trenches, so to speak, and are better references for current conditions than anything we can glean from the media, or from armchair nob Baja know-it-alls.



Tony....there's a lot of real news available concerning the mayhem and in English as well. Maggie's blog would convince even the most resistant that problems are huge.
Thing seems to be, many don't want to know the full truth. It doesn't mix well with their ideal, their fantasy world. They only continue to claim everything is just fine or better than those nasty places in the US. [Gawd....I hate it when they do that. It's the ultimate dismissal of reality]

Anyway....I don't see much because I stay away from locations where crap is likely to happen, but that doesn't mean it's not happening.


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[Edited on 12-18-2010 by DENNIS]

tripledigitken - 12-18-2010 at 06:21 PM

I don't see Mexico coming back from this. The will of the people doesn't seem strong enough.

I too read the Mexican news from the various blogs and you just have to shake your head. Baja Sur is unaffected so far for the most part, but just how long will that last?

DENNIS - 12-18-2010 at 06:51 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by tripledigitken
The will of the people doesn't seem strong enough.



Perhaps the will would be stronger if the means, the arms, had not been stripped from the hands of the common man after their revolution. Most are kept defensless so as to lessen the threat of armed revolt.
In light of this, I don't know how the citizenry of Mexico can condemn the US for holding fast to our right to bear arms.

desertcpl - 12-18-2010 at 08:36 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by DENNIS
Quote:
Originally posted by tripledigitken
The will of the people doesn't seem strong enough.



Perhaps the will would be stronger if the means, the arms, had not been stripped from the hands of the common man after their revolution. Most are kept defensless so as to lessen the threat of armed revolt.
In light of this, I don't know how the citizenry of Mexico can condemn the US for holding fast to our right to bear arms.


yes a little about what I posted,, let them Legalize guns for the Mexican Citizens,, and bring in the Death penalty, Mexico had firing squads in the past.. they need to do something quick about all of this,, the court system is unable to deal with it,, quick military justice, the government needs really take over. HARD

DENNIS - 12-18-2010 at 08:58 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by desertcpl
yes a little about what I posted,, let them Legalize guns for the Mexican Citizens,, and bring in the Death penalty, Mexico


They are legal...for some.....those who can afford it. That seperates the wheat from the chaff....so to speak.

I don't know what the answer to this mess might be. Insurgencies are difficult to measure. Perhaps go through the country and shoot every male over twelve who doesn't have a verifiable, legal income. At least the unemployment figures would improve.

bajaguy - 12-18-2010 at 09:01 PM

maybe they need something like the 7 Samurai

DENNIS - 12-18-2010 at 09:12 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by bajaguy
maybe they need something like the 7 Samurai


Yul Brynner?
"Mexico cleansed by the King of Siam." :lol:

toneart - 12-18-2010 at 09:54 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by DENNIS
Quote:
Originally posted by toneart
You guys are in the trenches, so to speak, and are better references for current conditions than anything we can glean from the media, or from armchair nob Baja know-it-alls.



Tony....there's a lot of real news available concerning the mayhem and in English as well. Maggie's blog would convince even the most resistant that problems are huge.
Thing seems to be, many don't want to know the full truth. It doesn't mix well with their ideal, their fantasy world. They only continue to claim everything is just fine or better than those nasty places in the US. [Gawd....I hate it when they do that. It's the ultimate dismissal of reality]

Anyway....I don't see much because I stay away from locations where crap is likely to happen, but that doesn't mean it's not happening.


.

[Edited on 12-18-2010 by DENNIS]


Thank you for your reply, Dennis. I agree! Stay safe.

Woooosh - 12-18-2010 at 11:43 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by toneart
Dennis, Woooosh, Lizard Lips- Violence is intensifying in Rosorito and surrounding areas too. Are you guys comfortable hangin' in?

This is not a trap leading to criticism. I am not a troll. It is necessary for all of us to constantly reassess. You guys are in the trenches, so to speak, and are better references for current conditions than anything we can glean from the media, or from armchair nob Baja know-it-alls.

Yeah, I'm comfortable enough to hang for now. This second crime wave coming through isn't like the first one. The first wave took most of the corrupt police with it. I have strong confidence in the police captains this time around. Neighborhood gangster crime is on the rise and there is a very visible Marino presence on the streets. Lot's of property crime- if you like it, don't leave it outside or alone. The rules for the local drug dealers have changed, everyone has to chose a side and all pay Chapo now too- or else. It's def more violent, but we don't feel it is necessarily more dangerous than before. It is good local bloggers post the real-time news, because Rosarito is trying to attract tourism and has enlisted cross-border agencies to support that effort. Reporting crime is a tourism bummer and they don't do it much anymore. It's like beating a dead horse.

[Edited on 12-19-2010 by Woooosh]

BillP - 12-19-2010 at 04:54 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by desertcpl
here is what I talking about, this was posted on Fulano files just a few days ago



Mexico Outraged By Killing of Anti-Crime Crusader

Sign: "If it was your daughter,
what would you do?"
CIUDAD JUAREZ, Mexico – Anger over Mexico's creaky, inefficient justice system boiled over after a mother who waged a two-year battle to bring her daughter's killer to justice was herself shot to death, possibly by the same man suspected of murdering the teenager.

A security video recording shows masked men pulling up in a car in front of the governor's office in the northern city of Chihuahua. One appeared to exchange words with anti-crime crusader Marisela Escobedo Ortiz, who was holding a vigil outside.

She tried to flee by running across the street, but the gunman chased her down and shot her in the head late Thursday, said Jorge Gonzalez, special state prosecutor for crime prevention.

Escobedo was taken by ambulance to a hospital, where she died within minutes.

On Friday, a group of demonstrators gathered outside the Interior Department in Mexico City to protest the killing, briefly scuffling with police while chanting "Not one more death!"

And far to the north in Ciudad Juarez, where Escobedo's 17-year-old daughter's burned and dismembered remains were found in a trash bin in June 2009, activists protested outside the state prosecutors office with signs demanding "Justice for Marisela."

Thursday's slaying "shows that in Mexico it is the victim who suffers, without protection," veteran anti-crime activist Alejandro Marti said.

The scandal resulted in the suspension of three judges who had ordered the release of the main suspect in the daughter's killing after he was absolved by a court in April for lack of evidence.

That man, Sergio Barraza, is now a chief suspect in the mother's death, said Carlos Gonzalez, a spokesman for the attorney general's office in Chihuahua state, where Ciudad Juarez is located.

Escobedo's daughter, Rubi Frayre Escobedo, disappeared in Ciudad Juarez, across from El Paso, Texas, in 2008.

After the body was discovered last year, the mother launched a campaign pressing for a conviction in the case. Escobedo staged numerous marches, once wearing no clothes, wrapped only in a banner with her daughter's photograph.

"This struggle is not only for my daughter," Escobedo said through a megaphone at that march, her voice breaking. "Let's not allow one more young woman to be killed in this city."

Three days ago, she planted herself in front of the offices of Gov. Cesar Duarte and vowed not to move until investigators showed progress in the case. In an interview with the newspaper El Diario on Sunday, Escobedo said she had received death threats from Barraza's family.

Duarte said state security officials had been assigned to guard Escobedo, although from a distance. He said their failure to protect her Thursday would be investigated.

Duarte had also called on the state's top court to suspend the three judges.

On Friday, court president Javier Ramirez Benitez said they would be suspended pending an investigation. Ramirez Benitez said an oversight commission found earlier this year that the case was improperly handled.

Prosecutors said Barraza, Frayre's live-in boyfriend, admitted murdering her and led police to the body. But at trial he proclaimed his innocence and claimed he had been tortured into confessing. The judges ruled in April that prosecutors failed to present material evidence against him.

The case exemplifies the problems of the judicial system in Chihuahua state, one of the first to adopt oral trials instead of the closed-door interrogations and filings of documents used for most Mexican trials.

Despite training, Chihuahua police and prosecutors have struggled to adapt to a system that puts the burden of proof on prosecutors. Many homicide cases have been thrown out for lack of evidence or never make it to trial.

Often, police rely solely on confessions that suspects later claim were made under duress. Newly captured suspects in much of Mexico are often displayed to the press with bruised faces.

Police in Ciudad Juarez have been overwhelmed by drug gang battles that have made the city one of the world's deadliest. More than 3,000 people have been killed in the city of 1.3 million this year alone.

Records obtained by The Associated Press show that last year, when 2,600 people were killed in Ciudad Juarez, prosecutors filed 93 homicide cases and got 19 convictions.

Chihuahua's judicial deficiencies go back years before the new system was implemented, before drug violence soared to unprecedented levels.

In the 1990s, hundreds of women were killed around Ciudad Juarez, about 100 of whom were sexually assaulted and dumped in the desert. Here's a newstory about the incident in Spanish.


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Labels: corruption, Mexico


To add a final insult, they torched the family's business. Sad.

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2010/dec/18/anti-crime-cr...

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desertcpl - 12-20-2010 at 09:21 AM

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By JUAN CARLOS LLORCA Associated Press
Posted: 12/19/2010 10:52:13 AM MSTUpdated: 12/19/2010 06:52:06 PM MST


COBAN, Guatemala—The Guatemalan military declared a state of siege Sunday in a northern province that authorities say has been overtaken by Mexican drug traffickers.
The government initiated the monthlong measure in the Alta Verapaz province to reclaim cities that have been taken over by the Zetas drug gang, Ronaldo Robles, a spokesman for Guatemalan President Alvaro Colom, told radio station Emisoras Unidas.

"It is to bring peace to the people and recover their confidence in the government," he said.

A state of siege allows the army to detain suspects without warrants, conduct warrantless searches, prohibit gun possession and public gatherings, and control the local news media. Guatemalan law allows the measure amid acts of terrorism, sedition or "rebellion," or when events "put the constitutional order or security of the state in danger."

The state of siege was put in place for 30 days, but "will last as long as necessary," Colom told Emisoras Unidas. He asked citizens to trust and cooperate with authorities.

The Zetas are a group of ex-soldiers who started as hit men for the Gulf drug cartel before breaking off on their own, quickly becoming one of Mexico's most violent gangs and spreading a reign of terror into Central America. They are notorious for their brutality, having pioneered the now-widespread practice of beheading rivals and officials.

In addition to drugs, The Zetas have branched out into all manner of organized crime activity: extorting businesses; smuggling oil stolen from pipelines; controlling the sale of pirated CDs and DVDs; and charging migrants "fees" to pass through their territory.

The cartel is blamed for some of the worst of Mexico's soaring drug violence—including the massacre in August of 72 migrants who refused to join their ranks. An ongoing turf war with their former allies, the Gulf cartel, has terrorized much of the northeastern states of Tamaulipas and Nuevo Leon.

In Guatemala, Robles said numerous cities in Alta Verapaz province have been overrun by drug traffickers and that the government decided it was time to take them back.

Anti-drug agents wearing ski masks to hide their identity patrolled the streets of the provincial capital, Coban, on Sunday.

Police officers and soldiers searched at least 16 homes and offices, as well as all vehicles entering and exiting the city, the government said on its website.

Gudy Rivera, a congressman from the opposition Patriotic Party, said the government's action came too late.

The state of siege also is meaningless "if we continue to have police corruption, a weak justice system and weak jails," added David Martinez Amador, an analyst and expert on criminal behavior.

Guatemalan news media have reported that the local population lives in fear of drug traffickers, who they say roam the streets in all-terrain vehicles and armed with assault weapons. Some were forced to give up their property to the traffickers, according to the reports.

A leaked Oct. 28, 2009 cable from the U.S. Embassy in Mexico City described a proposal by Mexican Defense Secretary Gen. Guillermo Galvan Galvan to control the violence in that country by calling a type of state of emergency suspending some constitutional rights in several cities.

Then-Interior Minister Fernando Gomez Mont batted down the idea, and in the cable, then-Charge d'Affaires John Feeley said that U.S. government analysis showed the benefits were "uncertain at best, and the political costs appear high."



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cjesme - 12-20-2010 at 10:01 AM

This is all very scary! I guess I live in a fantasy world too, but, I never go where there are problems and I never go anywhere at night. I too love the people and the Baja we all know and love. It does scare me but hopefully it doesn't happen near me. I do not want to leave here.

Woooosh - 12-20-2010 at 10:03 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by cjesme
This is all very scary! I guess I live in a fantasy world too, but, I never go where there are problems and I never go anywhere at night. I too love the people and the Baja we all know and love. It does scare me but hopefully it doesn't happen near me. I do not want to leave here.

Now you are feeling and acting exactly like your Mexican neighbors.

durrelllrobert - 12-20-2010 at 10:11 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by lizard lips

I have investigated at least 60 murders in the state of Chihuahua in the last ten years. I won't go there anymore. I won't go anywhere along the border in Texas as I had for several years. I have turned down at least 20k in business in the past year because it is now to dangerous.

...and yet, eventhough the US StateDepartment advises not to travel there, the US Consulate in Juarz is the only place on the US/MX border where they conduct the final interviews for US Visas/ green cards WTF?

desertcpl - 12-20-2010 at 10:46 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by durrelllrobert
Quote:
Originally posted by lizard lips

I have investigated at least 60 murders in the state of Chihuahua in the last ten years. I won't go there anymore. I won't go anywhere along the border in Texas as I had for several years. I have turned down at least 20k in business in the past year because it is now to dangerous.

...and yet, eventhough the US StateDepartment advises not to travel there, the US Consulate in Juarz is the only place on the US/MX border where they conduct the final interviews for US Visas/ green cards WTF?


I agree what is wrong with this picture,, you talk about being stuck on stupid?

and Mexico wants to run with the big dogs, :lol::lol::lol:

DENNIS - 12-20-2010 at 10:46 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by durrelllrobert
...and yet, even though the US StateDepartment advises not to travel there, the US Consulate in Juarz is the only place on the US/MX border where they conduct the final interviews for US Visas/ green cards WTF?


Their advice to stay away is directed to American citizens. We don't need US visas or Green Cards.

Woooosh - 12-28-2010 at 07:19 PM

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2010/dec/28/41-mexican-pr...

41 Mexican prison guards charged in mass jailbreak
BY THE ASSOCIATED PRESS,
TUESDAY, DECEMBER 28, 2010 AT 5:16 P.M.

MEXICO CITY — More than 40 prison guards have been charged with helping 153 inmates escape from a prison in a northern Mexican border city.

The federal Attorney General's office says in a statement that 41 guards have been accused of opening the gates of the prison in Nuevo Laredo, across the border from Laredo, Texas. If convicted, the guards face up to 20 years in prison.

Authorities initially said 141 prisoners escaped Dec. 17, but the statement Monday said the number was 153.

The fugitives were being held for trial or had been convicted of crimes ranging from robbery to drug trafficking.

Tamaulipas has been torn by turf battles between the Gulf and Zetas drug gangs, but it was unclear whether any of the inmates belonged to those groups.

The Associated Press

The irony

Dave - 12-28-2010 at 07:41 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Woooosh
If convicted, the guards face up to 20 years in prison.


Yeah, well, they could get 20 years...

However...............................:rolleyes: