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JAIL BREAK -----GOING HOME FOR CHRISTMAS ---- THE MADNESS CONTINUES
141 inmates escape Mexican border prison
The Associated Press
MEXICO CITY -- Nearly 150 inmates escaped Friday from a state prison in the northern Mexico border city of Nuevo Laredo, and authorities said the
breakout was probably helped by prison employees.
The public safety department of Tamaulipas state, where the prison is located near the border with Laredo, Texas, said 141 inmates got out through a
service entrance used by vehicles, "presumably with the assistance of the prison staff."
The department said the prison's director could not be located, adding that he and other officials were under investigation.
Eighty-three of the prisoners were being held for trial or had been convicted of crimes like theft, assault and other state offenses, while 58 were
being held on federal charges, which include weapons possession and drug trafficking.
Tamaulipas has been plagued by a steady wave of violence tied to turf battles between the Gulf and Zetas drug gangs, but it was unclear whether
members of those groups were among the escaped inmates.
States like Tamaulipas have said in the past they are not prepared to handle highly dangerous federal prisoners, and again on Friday the state urged
the federal government to take charge of such inmates.
"The state does not have the capacity to prevent them escaping," the department said in a statement.
The federal Interior Department blamed the breakout on local authorities, saying they did not properly guard the facility.
"The absence of effective methods of guarding and control by local authorities is deplorable, and it has caused frequent escapes from prisons that put
the public at risk," the department said in a statement.
It called on state authorities to clean up their prison and judicial systems by increased screening and vetting of corrections officers. In past
cases, prison guards - often underpaid or under threat from gangs - have been implicated in prison escapes.
Federal police and soldiers were dispatched to patrol the area, and a search for escaped prisoners was begun.
The jail break apparently occurred in the pre-dawn hours Friday.
The escape came on the same day that federal Public Safety Secretary Genaro Garcia Luna addressed a graduating class of new prison guards, underlining
the urgent need to professionalize correctional forces.
"We are making a historic effort to build a new prisons model, that will treat prison staff as efficient public servants," Garcia Luna said.
The new guard recruitment programs, supported in part by the U.S. government, include increased training, screening and vetting of guards.
Read more: http://www.tri-cityherald.com/2010/12/17/1295901/about-140-i...
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"The state does not have the capacity to prevent them escaping,"
unbelievable..... sounds like more spin/cover for the directors who will be found a piece at a time
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doesn't surprise me at all.. the corruption in Mexico is epidemic.. I wouldn't be surprised some time down the line the Mexicans citizens will revolt
big time,, they will finally have enought,
what is your take on this Nomads
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NO COMMENTS??
here is what I talking about, this was posted on Fulano files just a few days ago
Mexico Outraged By Killing of Anti-Crime Crusader
Sign: "If it was your daughter,
what would you do?"
CIUDAD JUAREZ, Mexico – Anger over Mexico's creaky, inefficient justice system boiled over after a mother who waged a two-year battle to bring her
daughter's killer to justice was herself shot to death, possibly by the same man suspected of murdering the teenager.
A security video recording shows masked men pulling up in a car in front of the governor's office in the northern city of Chihuahua. One appeared to
exchange words with anti-crime crusader Marisela Escobedo Ortiz, who was holding a vigil outside.
She tried to flee by running across the street, but the gunman chased her down and shot her in the head late Thursday, said Jorge Gonzalez, special
state prosecutor for crime prevention.
Escobedo was taken by ambulance to a hospital, where she died within minutes.
On Friday, a group of demonstrators gathered outside the Interior Department in Mexico City to protest the killing, briefly scuffling with police
while chanting "Not one more death!"
And far to the north in Ciudad Juarez, where Escobedo's 17-year-old daughter's burned and dismembered remains were found in a trash bin in June 2009,
activists protested outside the state prosecutors office with signs demanding "Justice for Marisela."
Thursday's slaying "shows that in Mexico it is the victim who suffers, without protection," veteran anti-crime activist Alejandro Marti said.
The scandal resulted in the suspension of three judges who had ordered the release of the main suspect in the daughter's killing after he was absolved
by a court in April for lack of evidence.
That man, Sergio Barraza, is now a chief suspect in the mother's death, said Carlos Gonzalez, a spokesman for the attorney general's office in
Chihuahua state, where Ciudad Juarez is located.
Escobedo's daughter, Rubi Frayre Escobedo, disappeared in Ciudad Juarez, across from El Paso, Texas, in 2008.
After the body was discovered last year, the mother launched a campaign pressing for a conviction in the case. Escobedo staged numerous marches, once
wearing no clothes, wrapped only in a banner with her daughter's photograph.
"This struggle is not only for my daughter," Escobedo said through a megaphone at that march, her voice breaking. "Let's not allow one more young
woman to be killed in this city."
Three days ago, she planted herself in front of the offices of Gov. Cesar Duarte and vowed not to move until investigators showed progress in the
case. In an interview with the newspaper El Diario on Sunday, Escobedo said she had received death threats from Barraza's family.
Duarte said state security officials had been assigned to guard Escobedo, although from a distance. He said their failure to protect her Thursday
would be investigated.
Duarte had also called on the state's top court to suspend the three judges.
On Friday, court president Javier Ramirez Benitez said they would be suspended pending an investigation. Ramirez Benitez said an oversight commission
found earlier this year that the case was improperly handled.
Prosecutors said Barraza, Frayre's live-in boyfriend, admitted murdering her and led police to the body. But at trial he proclaimed his innocence and
claimed he had been tortured into confessing. The judges ruled in April that prosecutors failed to present material evidence against him.
The case exemplifies the problems of the judicial system in Chihuahua state, one of the first to adopt oral trials instead of the closed-door
interrogations and filings of documents used for most Mexican trials.
Despite training, Chihuahua police and prosecutors have struggled to adapt to a system that puts the burden of proof on prosecutors. Many homicide
cases have been thrown out for lack of evidence or never make it to trial.
Often, police rely solely on confessions that suspects later claim were made under duress. Newly captured suspects in much of Mexico are often
displayed to the press with bruised faces.
Police in Ciudad Juarez have been overwhelmed by drug gang battles that have made the city one of the world's deadliest. More than 3,000 people have
been killed in the city of 1.3 million this year alone.
Records obtained by The Associated Press show that last year, when 2,600 people were killed in Ciudad Juarez, prosecutors filed 93 homicide cases and
got 19 convictions.
Chihuahua's judicial deficiencies go back years before the new system was implemented, before drug violence soared to unprecedented levels.
In the 1990s, hundreds of women were killed around Ciudad Juarez, about 100 of whom were sexually assaulted and dumped in the desert. Here's a
newstory about the incident in Spanish.
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How many times can we say Mexico is "Stuck on Stupid" and expect the outcome to be different "next time". Stuck is stuck. I don't know why they even
bother jailing people for serious offenses- the connected ones get right out and only makes the people more ticked off. They need to extradite
offenders involved in the narco-war to the USA where the jail cells have locks. But this is how jail guard make their Christmas money and no one
wants to be the last one to take a bribe and get paid like everyone else.
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
They need to extradite offenders involved in the narco-war to the USA where the jail cells have locks. |
I doubt the US has room for another 20 million prisoners.
Maybe let Joe Arpaio take care of it.
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PGR arrested the entire jail staff. The jail staff will confess, then turn over their ill-gotten bribe money to the PGR, who will then turn every
peso over to their bosses. Of course.
http://www.oem.com.mx/elsoldemexico/notas/n1894785.htm
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
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I read about the story in Juarez yesterday on another site and it made me physically ill but it didn't surprise me. This is what it has come to. All
of the judges must be punished now and I hope they see the inside of a jail cell. But always with enough money to the proper person and a slap on the
wrist and it will all go away.
I have investigated at least 60 murders in the state of Chihuahua in the last ten years. I won't go there anymore. I won't go anywhere along the
border in Texas as I had for several years. I have turned down at least 20k in business in the past year because it is now to dangerous.
I did go to Juarez in July for two days and could not believe all of the businesses that have shut the door. Corruption at it finest. My heart goes
out to all of those who must live there and have no other option. My brother in law had worked for a miqiladora in Juarez for Ford for 25 years that
closed and has a degree in engineering and is now pumping gas at a Pemex. He can't move now and must support his family any way he can.
It's not the Mexico I have loved for so many years. We all know about the political corruption that Mexico has dealt with since Cortez stepped foot
off the boat but now we have a whole new chapter and it's a horror story to say the least.
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How this has affected your family is horrible. This is not a good omen for the "new" judicial system. This happened where the soon-to-come-to TJ
legal reforms (open arguments in court) have already been enacted. I think they though watching LA Law would be enough courtroom training for them.
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
How this has affected your family is horrible. This is not a good omen for the "new" judicial system. This happened where the soon-to-come-to TJ
legal reforms (open arguments in court) have already been enacted. I think they though watching LA Law would be enough courtroom training for them.
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We won't live so long to see the new procedures [new to Mexico anyway] be implemented. The transition will be much more than redesigning the courtroom
with a jury box and a judges bench. The characteristic most resistant to change will be the established judges in the judicial system coming to
terms with losing ultimate power and their manipulations of the new order to avoid that end.
Ironically, some future defendents awaiting trial will be best versed in the new system having been an active part of it in the past for their
transgressions while visiting the US. Maybe they should be the judges.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
How this has affected your family is horrible. This is not a good omen for the "new" judicial system. This happened where the soon-to-come-to TJ
legal reforms (open arguments in court) have already been enacted. I think they though watching LA Law would be enough courtroom training for them.
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We won't live so long to see the new procedures [new to Mexico anyway] be implemented. The transition will be much more than redesigning the courtroom
with a jury box and a judges bench. The characteristic most resistant to change will be the established judges in the judicial system coming to
terms with losing ultimate power and their manipulations of the new order to avoid that end.
Ironically, some future defendents awaiting trial will be best versed in the new system having been an active part of it in the past for their
transgressions while visiting the US. Maybe they should be the judges. |
Apparently they already have this new open court system in Juarez, but the prosecutors didn't make their case although the man did not deny he did it.
That's why the public outrage against the judges. Maybe next will be jury trials? Can you imagine what a mess that would be?
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
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1. legalize guns
2. death penalty , quick
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
Apparently they already have this new open court system in Juarez, but the prosecutors didn't make their case although the man did not deny he did it.
That's why the public outrage against the judges. Maybe next will be jury trials? Can you imagine what a mess that would be?
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It's almost, if not completely impossible to attribute anything good to a legal system in Cd. Juarez. The place is soulless. A morgue with a waiting
list.
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Dennis, Woooosh, Lizard Lips- Violence is intensifying in Rosorito and surrounding areas too. Are you guys comfortable hangin' in?
This is not a trap leading to criticism. I am not a troll. It is necessary for all of us to constantly reassess. You guys are in the trenches, so to
speak, and are better references for current conditions than anything we can glean from the media, or from armchair nob Baja know-it-alls.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by toneart
You guys are in the trenches, so to speak, and are better references for current conditions than anything we can glean from the media, or from
armchair nob Baja know-it-alls. |
Tony....there's a lot of real news available concerning the mayhem and in English as well. Maggie's blog would convince even the most resistant that
problems are huge.
Thing seems to be, many don't want to know the full truth. It doesn't mix well with their ideal, their fantasy world. They only continue to claim
everything is just fine or better than those nasty places in the US. [Gawd....I hate it when they do that. It's the ultimate dismissal of reality]
Anyway....I don't see much because I stay away from locations where crap is likely to happen, but that doesn't mean it's not happening.
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[Edited on 12-18-2010 by DENNIS]
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I don't see Mexico coming back from this. The will of the people doesn't seem strong enough.
I too read the Mexican news from the various blogs and you just have to shake your head. Baja Sur is unaffected so far for the most part, but just
how long will that last?
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| Quote: | Originally posted by tripledigitken
The will of the people doesn't seem strong enough.
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Perhaps the will would be stronger if the means, the arms, had not been stripped from the hands of the common man after their revolution. Most are
kept defensless so as to lessen the threat of armed revolt.
In light of this, I don't know how the citizenry of Mexico can condemn the US for holding fast to our right to bear arms.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by tripledigitken
The will of the people doesn't seem strong enough.
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Perhaps the will would be stronger if the means, the arms, had not been stripped from the hands of the common man after their revolution. Most are
kept defensless so as to lessen the threat of armed revolt.
In light of this, I don't know how the citizenry of Mexico can condemn the US for holding fast to our right to bear arms. |
yes a little about what I posted,, let them Legalize guns for the Mexican Citizens,, and bring in the Death penalty, Mexico had firing squads in the
past.. they need to do something quick about all of this,, the court system is unable to deal with it,, quick military justice, the government needs
really take over. HARD
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| Quote: | Originally posted by desertcpl
yes a little about what I posted,, let them Legalize guns for the Mexican Citizens,, and bring in the Death penalty, Mexico |
They are legal...for some.....those who can afford it. That seperates the wheat from the chaff....so to speak.
I don't know what the answer to this mess might be. Insurgencies are difficult to measure. Perhaps go through the country and shoot every male over
twelve who doesn't have a verifiable, legal income. At least the unemployment figures would improve.
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maybe they need something like the 7 Samurai
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