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Shell Island

texascarwasher - 2-12-2011 at 09:10 PM

Where is Shell Island? I've searched the forum and find several references to it but not where it is located.

When we drive back to the states from La Paz this summer, we are going to take a week or 2 to explore the peninsula as a vacation.

Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

David K - 2-12-2011 at 09:27 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by texascarwasher
Where is Shell Island? I've searched the forum and find several references to it but not where it is located.

When we drive back to the states from La Paz this summer, we are going to take a week or 2 to explore the peninsula as a vacation.

Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks


Sorry you have missed the numerous maps, directions, satellite images of it I have posted over the years!

Quite simply, it is the barrier island between Laguna Percebu and Bahia Santa Maria (~19-25 miles south of San Felipe). An access road is at Km. 26...




Some recent trip web pages:

http://vivabaja.com/1009/
http://vivabaja.com/7409/
http://vivabaja.com/508/




Some gringos that have moved into the area in recent years call it 'Shell Beach'... but there already is a Shell Beach in Baja (Punta Chivato) and it is not an island like this one becomes during the highest lunar tides.

MAPS:







here's one of mine from 1978 when I first found the way to drive onto the island (previously I would park at the north end of Bahia Santa Maria and walk across the lagoon entrance onto the island):



The new road to Puertecitos was built in 1982+...





In 6 years pavement had not gotten much past Punta Estrella...



[Edited on 2-13-2011 by David K]

mcfez - 2-12-2011 at 09:44 PM

Here's a great link about Shell Beach. It contains pictures to maps that you are asking for.

http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=46308#pid5241...

It is hard to remember all the info posted here, even I have to ask 2 - 3 times about the same subject.............



I love these areas:

http://www.bahiadelosangeles.info/

Gonzaga Bay

[Edited on 2-13-2011 by mcfez]

dkl.jpg - 43kB

CortezBlue - 2-12-2011 at 09:48 PM

McFezzy dude,
thank god you found this info. If I see one more reason for KDavid to post I will Caca all over myself.

PS I was at Pete's Camp Thursday and Friday night but did not see your Horney self.

Bob H - 2-12-2011 at 09:48 PM

A stop in Mulege is a MUST! I would consider staying at the Cuesta Real along the river and walking distance to Julgle Jims for happy hour. Also, walking distance in to town for a great meal at El
Candil (owned by Scotty) A great place to eat.

http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g153974-d610797-Revi...

David K - 2-12-2011 at 09:48 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by mcfez
Here's a great link about Shell Island. It contains pictures to maps that you are asking for.

http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=46308

It is hard to remember all the info posted here, even I have to ask 2 - 3 times about the same subject.............

[Edited on 2-13-2011 by mcfez & David K]


Shell ISLAND... please!

mcfez - 2-12-2011 at 09:53 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by CortezBlue
McFezzy dude,
thank god you found this info. If I see one more reason for KDavid to post I will Caca all over myself.

PS I was at Pete's Camp Thursday and Friday night but did not see your Horney self.


In Sacramento writing about Shell Beach...Shell Island ....Shell Service stations!

[Edited on 2-13-2011 by mcfez]

mcfez - 2-12-2011 at 09:56 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by David K
Quote:
Originally posted by Bob H
A stop in Mulege is a MUST! I would consider staying at the Cuesta Real along the river and walking distance to Julgle Jims for happy hour. Also, walking distance in to town for a great meal at El
Candil (owned by Scotty) A great place to eat.

http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g153974-d610797-Revi...


You see with all this Shell Beach confusuion, Bob thinks we are near Mulege and not San Felipe, where Shell Island is close to!:light:


I usually dont get confused looking at the maps.......if one was posted for the asker.....we wouldnt be having confused subjects.......


The asker was asking for other places to visit as well David...those are the responses, not confusions

[Edited on 2-13-2011 by mcfez]

CortezBlue - 2-12-2011 at 10:18 PM

San Felipe was marvelous tonight.
Sat in the front with a small fire listening to:

Gino Vanelli, Ronnie Laws, Chicago, Los Lonely Boys and Boz Skaggs

Fried some pork chops on the grill oh and let us not forget a few Tecates.

Back to Phoenix tomorrow

mcfez - 2-12-2011 at 10:45 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by CortezBlue
San Felipe was marvelous tonight.
Sat in the front with a small fire listening to:

Gino Vanelli, Ronnie Laws, Chicago, Los Lonely Boys and Boz Skaggs

Fried some pork chops on the grill oh and let us not forget a few Tecates.

Back to Phoenix tomorrow


You call that stuff music?
I prefer Lawrence Welk's Music Hour :lol:

AmoPescar - 2-12-2011 at 11:32 PM

GOOD ONE FEZ!!! ......very creative photoshopping!







To my friend David...Sorry, but it really is funny!
Miguelamo :rolleyes: :yes::yes: :)

Russ - 2-13-2011 at 06:34 AM

Photoshop? I thought it was a Mexican "Amber Alert". It's on all the milk cartons in this area.

David K - 2-13-2011 at 08:01 AM

:lol:

mtgoat666 - 2-13-2011 at 08:12 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by texascarwasher
Where is Shell Island? I've searched the forum and find several references to it but not where it is located.


LOL
:lol:
wash-walla: you are a funny dude :lol:

Bob H - 2-13-2011 at 08:36 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by texascarwasher
When we drive back to the states from La Paz this summer, we are going to take a week or 2 to explore the peninsula as a vacation.

Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks


David K, please read the original post asked for recommendations on their return from La Paz in the future. Thus, my recommendation for a stop in Mulege!
Bob H

David K - 2-13-2011 at 08:39 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Bob H
Quote:
Originally posted by texascarwasher
When we drive back to the states from La Paz this summer, we are going to take a week or 2 to explore the peninsula as a vacation.

Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks


David K, please read the original post asked for recommendations on their return from La Paz in the future. Thus, my recommendation for a stop in Mulege!
Bob H


Yes Bob, thanks... I just was making a bad joke because of the Shell Beach stuff Deno was posting... Have a nice Sunday!

David K - 2-13-2011 at 08:41 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by mcfez
Quote:
Originally posted by David K
Quote:
Originally posted by Bob H
A stop in Mulege is a MUST! I would consider staying at the Cuesta Real along the river and walking distance to Julgle Jims for happy hour. Also, walking distance in to town for a great meal at El
Candil (owned by Scotty) A great place to eat.

http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g153974-d610797-Revi...


You see with all this Shell Beach confusuion, Bob thinks we are near Mulege and not San Felipe, where Shell Island is close to!:light:


I usually dont get confused looking at the maps.......if one was posted for the asker.....we wouldnt be having confused subjects.......


The asker was asking for other places to visit as well David...those are the responses, not confusions

[Edited on 2-13-2011 by mcfez]


I reposted the maps from the link you gave... Maps do make things easier to visualize!

Bob H - 2-13-2011 at 08:45 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by David K
[Yes Bob, thanks... I just was making a bad joke because of the Shell Beach stuff Deno was posting... Have a nice Sunday!


Wow, did you say "Shell Beach".... :biggrin:

David K - 2-13-2011 at 08:56 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Bob H
Quote:
Originally posted by David K
[Yes Bob, thanks... I just was making a bad joke because of the Shell Beach stuff Deno was posting... Have a nice Sunday!


Wow, did you say "Shell Beach".... :biggrin:


Yes, because that is what Deno was calling it... Shell Beach is near Mulege.

Bob H - 2-13-2011 at 12:46 PM

Ahhhh, now I get it.

http://www.baja-web.com/realestate/Mgonzale/index.html

let's resolve this issue

mcfez - 2-13-2011 at 01:50 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by David K
Quote:
Originally posted by Bob H
Quote:
Originally posted by David K
[Yes Bob, thanks... I just was making a bad joke because of the Shell Beach stuff Deno was posting... Have a nice Sunday!


Wow, did you say "Shell Beach".... :biggrin:


Yes, because that is what Deno was calling it... Shell Beach is near Mulege.


let's rename the island.

McFez Island

[Edited on 2-14-2011 by mcfez]

texascarwasher - 2-13-2011 at 07:04 PM

thanks for the info about where Shell Island/Beach is. I'll make a new post is clearer.

mcfez - 2-13-2011 at 07:16 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by David K
Quote:
Originally posted by Bob H
Quote:
Originally posted by David K
[Yes Bob, thanks... I just was making a bad joke because of the Shell Beach stuff Deno was posting... Have a nice Sunday!


Wow, did you say "Shell Beach".... :biggrin:


Yes, because that is what Deno was calling it... Shell Beach is near Mulege.


Honestly David.....it just hit me in the face that you have been calling this place of yours...."Island" and not beach. Okay...I just rewired my brain to work properly. I'm taking a sign down there and place it off the highway.

Shell Island, this way----->

David K - 2-13-2011 at 11:01 PM

You're a good man Deno! (I don't care what Dennis says) :lol:

BAJACAT - 2-16-2011 at 11:47 AM

David what other place in Baja have you name, besides Shell island and the Widomaker...

mcfez - 2-16-2011 at 12:11 PM

the Widomaker?

This is new to me.....what /where/how/who/when? Oh...and Thanks!

Barry A. - 2-16-2011 at 12:16 PM

The killer grade into the Mission Santa Maria site is dubbed the "widowmaker" as it is a terror (steep, & huge rocks), as many can testify to.

Barry

"shell spit"

mtgoat666 - 2-16-2011 at 12:34 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by David K
Quote:
Originally posted by texascarwasher
Where is Shell Island? I've searched the forum and find several references to it but not where it is located.


Sorry you have missed the numerous maps, directions, satellite images of it I have posted over the years!

Quite simply, it is the barrier island between Laguna Percebu and Bahia Santa Maria (~19-25 miles south of San Felipe). An access road is at Km. 26...

Some gringos that have moved into the area in recent years call it 'Shell Beach'... but there already is a Shell Beach in Baja (Punta Chivato) and it is not an island like this one becomes during the highest lunar tides.


dk: looking at the geomorphology, it appears that your beach is actually a spit. it is connected to land at south end, and is created by northward transport of beach sand. it really doesn't fit the definition of barrier island, but it does appear to be what most of us call spits. if you want to be correct, call it a spit.
"shell spit" has a certain ring to it. but as a layman, you could probably continue to call it an island and get away with it in most crowds.
the maps for this area call it Estero Percebu (Percebu Estuary), so perhaps you could call it Percebu Spit or Playa Percebu (what is spanish translation of geographic term "spit?")

[Edited on 2-16-2011 by mtgoat666]

David K - 2-16-2011 at 01:14 PM

It is connected to dry land in the center, not the end, during minimal tides (quarter moon phase)... If it were only connected on one far end, then I would agree with you... There is a lagoon (or estero) entrance on the north (Percebu) end AND on the south (Santa Maria) end of the island.

During extreme tides it is totally surrounded by water, which covers the salt/ mud flats that seperate the beach/ barrier dune island from the mainland of Baja when and where the sea water doesn't.

Look again at the maps I posted above to clearly see the inlets or island shape.

[Edited on 2-16-2011 by David K]

mtgoat666 - 2-16-2011 at 04:51 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by David K
It is connected to dry land in the center, not the end, during minimal tides (quarter moon phase)... If it were only connected on one far end, then I would agree with you... There is a lagoon (or estero) entrance on the north (Percebu) end AND on the south (Santa Maria) end of the island.

During extreme tides it is totally surrounded by water, which covers the salt/ mud flats that seperate the beach/ barrier dune island from the mainland of Baja when and where the sea water doesn't.

Look again at the maps I posted above to clearly see the inlets or island shape.

[Edited on 2-16-2011 by David K]


spit or tidal island.
not barrier island.
dk: as the oficial baja spelling sherriff, you should be first to agree that your words should have precise and accurate meanings.
yes we can!@
peace out!

Barry A. - 2-16-2011 at 05:35 PM

---------actually "Shell Island" is most probably a "barrier bar" as defined in LOBECK'S GEOMORPHOLOGY. Lobeck does not use the term "barrier Island", even tho it may be appropriate at high tide in this case.

As DK has pointed out, "Shell Island" does not reflect the characteristics of a "spit" (sand spit) despite the claims of one GOAT within this thread. A "spit" is an extension of a pre-existing landform, and would be attached to land at the upstream end (no inlet)------this is not the case with "Shell Island".

Definitely a "barrier bar" from the pictures, as any amatuer Geomophographer could see. (pardon the spelling errors)

Barry

David K - 2-16-2011 at 06:57 PM

Thanks Barry... I would rather go to a BAR, any day!!! :lol::lol::lol:

geology an geography circa 1939

mtgoat666 - 2-16-2011 at 07:51 PM

Barry/DK:
Lobeck? never read that one :lol:

Barry A. - 2-17-2011 at 09:33 AM

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Originally posted by mtgoat666
Barry/DK:
Lobeck? never read that one :lol:


You should, Goat. Very alluminating, and well written. The newer Geomorphology texts are somewhat more superficial in their treatment of Land Forms------Lobeck's was, and still is, the standard by which all other Geomorph books are judged.

As for it's publication date (1939), land forms have not changed in 70 years, tho the interpretation of same has evolved into something quite strange.

Barry