BajaNomad - Update on Los Arcos in La Paz?

Update on Los Arcos in La Paz?

Kgryfon - 3-19-2011 at 12:37 PM

Just wondering what the status is on Los Arcos in La Paz, if anyone knows. I keep hoping it re-opens, but I can't find anything that indicates it has or will. Anyone have insider news?

rhintransit - 3-19-2011 at 03:00 PM

hasn't, probably won't.
insider news always welcome if anyone knows anything more.

Bajahowodd - 3-19-2011 at 03:06 PM

I understand that they had a labor dispute. And, the owners appear to have bigger fish to fry viz other developments. But, at the end of the day, it would seem to me that this is a premier property that deserves a future.

Given that gnukid has provided photographic evidence that La Paz real estate is apparently vibrant, it would not make sense for this iconic property property to sit shuttered for a long time. JMHO

desertcpl - 3-19-2011 at 03:34 PM

I have stayed there numerous times, really liked it alot,, wish they would reopen it,, it was posted last year here on Nomads that they have been thinking about building condos on the property?

[Edited on 3-19-2011 by desertcpl]

Los Arcos to reopen

tripledigitken - 3-19-2011 at 04:53 PM

The owners have reached an agreement with the powers to be.
They plan to do some upgrading and to reopen, including the Cabañas. The time line was not mentioned.

Ken

desertcpl - 3-19-2011 at 06:07 PM

thats really great, I liked every thing about it,, the rooms, restaurant, bar,, location

gnukid - 3-19-2011 at 07:52 PM

prediction: going to reopen

TMW - 3-20-2011 at 12:48 PM

Welcome news, I have stayed there several times over the years. Always got a 3 floor room looking at the bay. had a great time every time.

Sirena - 3-20-2011 at 12:56 PM

Word on the street that it would reopen after the elections/change of power. Aggrement was reached awhile ago for back pay, etc. Owners are Senator Coppola's family.... owners of the Finnisterra.

BMG - 3-20-2011 at 04:47 PM

Strikers are still there and brewing their coffee on the malecon.

Los_Arcos_Hotel_striker_Jan26_2011.JPG - 49kB

Bajatripper - 3-23-2011 at 01:42 PM

I will make a point of swinging by and talking to the strikers outside, see what they've heard.

bajajazz - 3-24-2011 at 10:38 AM

Does anyone know the straight story of what the strike/closure was all about?

Was it a genuine labor dispute, or were the union leaders pressured into a strike by political enemies of Senator Coppola?

Or was it the fact that business was slow and the owners didn't want to absorb the negative cashflow?

Conversion to condos has also been mentioned as a possible reason for the closure.

We are concerned because we don't like witnessing the loss of our landmark businesses. Los Arcos had already been struck by the union a year or so before this latest closure. Workers' rights are one thing, but destruction of old line businesses that are part of our local cultural heritage is something else.

We've lost La Posada, the Grand Baja and now Los Arcos due in part to labor problems, and the La Perla department store due to fire. Two of those sites are still bare ground and empty space and don't add any value to the community, and the decay of Los Arcos is dragging down the whole south end of the Malecon.

Bajatripper - 3-24-2011 at 02:59 PM

I stopped by the Los Arcos to talk to the duty strikee this morning. To my surprise, there wasn't a soul around. There was the gathering spot with a notebook on the table and a duty roster on the wall, but nobody to talk to. I then went down to the Las Cabañas section to see if someone was around over there ... nope. I did talk to a taxi driver waiting across the street, he hadn't heard anything. He was surprised that no one was on duty, so I suppose that's unusual. I will swing by the hotel on my next trip down the malecon and see if there's anyone to talk to.

Here's what the hotel looks like today

The area where the strikers usually hang out

The area is empty, but note the logbook on the table. Note also, no more coffee pot.

"Don't urinate in the planters or in the lobby" Fortunately, BCS has one of the highest literacy rates in Mexico, so this shouldn't be a problem--except, perhaps, with whoever wrote the note on the sign.

The duty roster, so we COULD find out who's UA/AWOL, if we cared.

The sidewalk outside the once-venerable La Paz landmark. Note the broken planter.

I had heard that the Las Cabañas section was receiving guests again. Not so, as these two photos make clear.

Looking inside the lobby through the gated front entrance.

When I find out more, I will post

[Edited on 3-24-2011 by Bajatripper]

[Edited on 3-25-2011 by Bajatripper]

David K - 3-24-2011 at 05:09 PM

Sad sad... How do union employees think that killing their source of income will help them earn more money? Is there ever a point when the government or court system steps in to resolve a dispute before it is too late?

Thanks for the great photos Steve!

(other than not sizing them to 800 pixels or less, you done good!)

Bajatripper - 3-24-2011 at 06:25 PM

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Originally posted by David K

(other than not sizing them to 800 pixels or less, you done good!)

Damn, I was under the impression that photobucket would do that for me. I'll get it right next time. So, that is 800 pixels total? What are the best two numbers to use when re-sizing?

BillP - 3-24-2011 at 06:42 PM

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Originally posted by Bajatripper

Quote:

Originally posted by David K

(other than not sizing them to 800 pixels or less, you done good!)

Damn, I was under the impression that photobucket would do that for me. I'll get it right next time. So, that is 800 pixels total? What are the best two numbers to use when re-sizing?

Just no one dimension larger than 800. Example, 800X700 is ok.

[Edited on 3-25-2011 by BillP]

David K - 3-24-2011 at 09:53 PM

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Originally posted by Bajatripper

Quote:

Originally posted by David K

(other than not sizing them to 800 pixels or less, you done good!)

Damn, I was under the impression that photobucket would do that for me. I'll get it right next time. So, that is 800 pixels total? What are the best two numbers to use when re-sizing?

Here is the part of my 'how to' you missed:

Just below where you see:

"Upload to Photobucket"

is this:

"Customize your upload options" (in blue text)

Click that!

Then see this, (pick one of 800 or less, the 640 is perfect):

100x75
160x120
320x240 (Medium)
640x480 (Large)
*800x600 (15" monitor)
1024x768 (17" monitor)
1280x960
1600x1200
2048x1536
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click save!

Bajatripper - 3-25-2011 at 11:33 AM

Thanks for the info, David and BillP. I'll get to it soon.

In the meantime, I drove by the hotel this morning and still, nobody on duty.

[Edited on 3-25-2011 by Bajatripper]

latina - 3-25-2011 at 11:55 AM

How sad. The Los Arcos was a wonderful place to go for a special occassion, brimming with tradition and charm. After being sealed up for so long it's hard to imagine that they will ever be able to bring it back to it's former glory. There are no winners in that stand-off.

MitchMan - 3-26-2011 at 12:40 PM

In this forum in the past, the issue of employer/employee relations in general gets avery dim view. Based on those posts, it seems like many employers, especially small businesses, get shake downs from employees frequently because of the ease of doing so legally and because, government agency wise, there is a ready bias against the employer, especially in La Paz.

The thing that gets me about Los Arcos, is that the employees that I came in contact with during my stays there were always contented, efficient, very pleasant, proactive, prompt, very accomodating, well trained and professional. Usually if things are going south, it is easy to pick up on crappy attitudes of the help. Didn't see any there.

So, I don't know what to think with regard to what happened at Los Arcos. Wish I knew the real skinny; very curious.

[Edited on 3-26-2011 by MitchMan]

elgatoloco - 3-26-2011 at 02:02 PM

Hope they reopen. When we camped the length of The Baja we could hardly wait to check into Las Cabañas and roll out of the room and into the pool. The staff there was always helpful and efficient and the secure parking was great for the big truck with kayaks and surfboards on top. One trip we managed to stay there three different times. Keeping fingers crossed they sort it out and get it together again. :coolup:

Barry A. - 3-29-2012 at 03:18 PM

Anything new on the re-opening (or not) of the twin Los Arcos Hotel's in La Paz? (& Las cabanas de los Arcos)

Barry

comitan - 3-29-2012 at 03:34 PM

Drove by there today they are still all closed up.

Barry A. - 3-29-2012 at 03:43 PM

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Originally posted by comitan
Drove by there today they are still all closed up.

That is a real bummer!!!! thanks Comitan.

BArry

Los Arcos La Paz

Kgryfon - 11-17-2013 at 11:57 PM

Any word on Los Arcos hotel and bungalows in La Paz? Just curious. This was the first place I even stayed in Baja and I have always been a bit sad that it closed. It was such a nice place (love the bungalows!) and it seemed like someone was cutting their nose off to spite their face when it closed. Of course, I don't know the real back story (I'm sure few do). Anyway, does anyone know what, if anything, is happening with this property?

Alan - 11-18-2013 at 08:17 AM

The rumor around town is that the owner lost the lawsuit so basically just said "the heck with them, I'll keep it closed before I will pay anyone a dime!" Of course we all know Baja runs on rumors and that if you listen to enough people you can eventually hear any answer you want. :lol:

comitan - 11-18-2013 at 08:58 AM

"Judicial Power of the Federation (PJF) denies her protection to the company Hotel and Tourism of Baja California, better known as Hotel Los Arcos, so traditional hotel owners paceño should cover not only the wages of more than eighty employees from Section 70 of the Trade Union of Workers in the Hotel, Gastronomy and related Mexico, all benefits due and even the tips, adding an amount of approximately forty million dollars. "

This was revealed by the secretary general of the State Union of gourmet. He said that the Second Court ruled in favor of workers "in the sense that it had to take into account each and every one of the benefits that accrued at the time workers before the strike, and that for any reason the Board Conciliation could walk groping and eliminating benefits. "

The same union calls for the impeachment of President of the Board of Conciliation and Arbitration of Baja California Sur, Mohamed Medina de la Toba, also asking for an audience with Marcos Covarrubias, in order to resolve the strike who turns five years on November 21.

"The board of reconciliation with the former president, and we had issued a resolution, where we granted, naturally, integration of tips, basic food. But when he enters this new president, when his turn to issue a new resolution, it takes away the basket, we remove the tip and integration of course, that decreases the final amount as fifty percent [...] We are asking the impeachment of President of the Board of Conciliation [...] It can not be the president of the Board of Conciliation in the same location. It can not be because it is impacting on workers. "

monoloco - 11-18-2013 at 09:03 AM

It sounds to me like it will take at least another ten years to get through the Mexican justice system. In the end, the employees will probably end up with a run down hulk of a hotel, and the only winners will be the abogados.

Kgryfon - 11-20-2013 at 06:32 PM

That was a bit hard to understand...the owner will have to pay $40 million dollars to settle the strike and re-open?

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Originally posted by monoloco
It sounds to me like it will take at least another ten years to get through the Mexican justice system. In the end, the employees will probably end up with a run down hulk of a hotel, and the only winners will be the abogados.

I think you have it right, Monoloco. What a shame.

805gregg - 11-20-2013 at 07:19 PM

We stayed in the cabanas, and loved it so much we spent a week there instead of 2 days, the trick in Mex is get a room far way from the pool and it's noise

Barry A. - 11-20-2013 at 09:34 PM

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Originally posted by 805gregg
We stayed in the cabanas, and loved it so much we spent a week there instead of 2 days, the trick in Mex is get a room far way from the pool and it's noise

We also stayed at the "Cabanas" several times for a week or more, right by the pool---------it was great!!!! and no noise at all, but admit there were no kids in residence while we there.

Barry

Kgryfon - 7-26-2014 at 12:33 AM

Resurrecting this old post to find out if anyone has any current news. Is the property just sitting there going to pot still?

cliffh - 7-26-2014 at 07:17 AM

Still closed up with no sign of activity on july 7

805gregg - 7-26-2014 at 06:13 PM

We loved the Los Arcos Cabanas, we stayed an extra 2 days it was so nice, I hope it reopens

Brinloor - 7-26-2014 at 08:44 PM

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Originally posted by Kgryfon
Resurrecting this old post to find out if anyone has any current news. Is the property just sitting there going to pot still?

This from a couple of days ago:

http://octavodia.mx/articulo/52820/emiten-sentencia-a-favor-...

Kgryfon - 7-26-2014 at 09:45 PM

So the workers won some points, others were not decided, and the owners will appeal. And the beat goes on...bummer.