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luv2fish - 7-14-2011 at 10:23 AM

Mexican Soldiers busted a marijuana grow south of San Quintin in a town known as El Marmol. This bust has the potential of generating 1 billion 860 million pesos. The total area was 120 hectares or almost 300 acres. Somebody is gonna be very peeed.

http://www.afntijuana.info/seguridad/2244_enorme_plantio_des...

Woooosh - 7-14-2011 at 10:59 AM

We've been saying this was going on around Ensenada for about six months now. 300 acres! Must have been hard to spot from the air, huh? geeesh. Maybe the "Re-image Rosarito" people should offer grow-farm tours.

[Edited on 7-14-2011 by Woooosh]

bajatravelergeorge - 7-14-2011 at 11:15 AM

WOW!

Chalk one up for the good guys.

sancho - 7-14-2011 at 11:54 AM

That TJ bust a yr or so back, I believe it was
something like 120 tons. I always figured it
was grown on the Mainland, but being grown
120 mi so of TJ makes the transport a bit easier.
Can someone answer this ?, how does some product,
Marijuana, be considered an illegal substance
at the border, then a few mi up the road in
Ca., it is sold legally as a medicinal product?
I'm not an advocate of weed, just curious as
to the random application of the law, sarcasim
intended, I realize it is against US DEA Regs to
possess Marijuana

David K - 7-14-2011 at 12:12 PM

Heck, and we thought there was just a lost mission near El Marmol!!

wessongroup - 7-14-2011 at 12:12 PM

The point is not lost on many... thanks Sancho...

Additionally AZ, also now has a "pot" law...

[Edited on 7-14-2011 by wessongroup]

Translated story... (closer to San Agustin)

David K - 7-14-2011 at 12:19 PM

ENSENADA, BC. July 13, 2011 (AFN)-elements of the Mexican army discovered south of Ensenada what comes to be the largest planting of marijuana in the Republic, as reported in the same site, the Commander of the second military region, General Alfonso Duarte Mujica, who announced that 16 workers apparently working there have been under arrest at the moment.

The military commander spoke of it's 120 hectares which were simulated with plantations of tomato and is located two kilometres from the transpeninsular Highway, at the height of kilometer section 141 Guerrero Negro - San Quintin, in the vicinity of EL MARMOL.

On the site there are plants of more than one meter in height which had generated approximately 120 tons of marijuana or 70 million doses, with an estimated price on the black market - left circular-of at least $1,860 million pesos.
This planting was discovered after operating Earth review, past 12 this month, at night, so it immediately established military surveillance. He pointed out that at least 60 people working there, to realize the military presence, were given to escape.

However, at least 16 day laborers, originating in the State of Sinaloa and travelling the next day (13th), around 18: 00 hours and headed to Ensenada on a bus from the ABC Company, were arrested because they showed no identification documents.

Instead of finding there is a shelter although they were not found residents; marijuana plants will be destroyed after coerced to the appropriate legal procedures.

The area was found where the planting of drugs is located 80 kilometres south of San Quintín, in the municipality of Ensenada.

luv2fish - 7-14-2011 at 12:30 PM

Makes you wonder how much money was invested in this "tomatoe" farm. Also who owns this and how are they getting the product north?? Not just to T.J. but over the border. Are there Gringo Customs Agents involved ?? How many people have died for this particular grow ?? So many questions...

DENNIS - 7-14-2011 at 12:43 PM

If anyone actually believes that 120 Hectarias of weed being cultivated on a pencil-thin strip of land was unknown to the authirities, they should sober up. Yesca shines like tin foil because of the resin when the sun is at a certain angle. This plot could have been seen from space.

Martyman - 7-14-2011 at 12:45 PM

A friend with weed is a friend indeed.

-Freewheelin Franklin

bajatravelergeorge - 7-14-2011 at 12:46 PM

Do people really smoke mexican pot in America? I heard that it is poor quality.

windgrrl - 7-14-2011 at 12:48 PM

Wondered what crop was fenced off and guarded under all those miles of fabric covering the northern landscape.

mtgoat666 - 7-14-2011 at 12:48 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by DENNIS
This plot could have been seen from space.


had mesh shades above fields, see slideshow of pics of plantation on the linked news article.

DENNIS - 7-14-2011 at 12:55 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by mtgoat666
had mesh shades above fields, see slideshow of pics of plantation on the linked news article.


Thanks. I didn't do that.....but will.
Anyway....the authorities had to know about it. They've been combing the countryside for years now. The only way that plot could exist is with their protection.

Read "Down By The River." It tells of massive plantations in Mexico that are guarded by military. Nothing new here.


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[Edited on 7-14-2011 by DENNIS]

Woooosh - 7-14-2011 at 12:59 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by DENNIS
Quote:
Originally posted by mtgoat666
had mesh shades above fields, see slideshow of pics of plantation on the linked news article.


Thanks. I didn't do that.....but will.
Anyway....the authorities had to know about it. They've been combing the countryside for years now. The only way that plot could exist is with their protection.

Read "Down By The River." It tells of massive plantations in Mexico that are guarded by military. Nothing new here.


.

[Edited on 7-14-2011 by DENNIS]


Next weeks BIG SURPRISE bust will likely be the opium production in that region.

mtgoat666 - 7-14-2011 at 01:02 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by DENNIS
Quote:
Originally posted by mtgoat666
had mesh shades above fields, see slideshow of pics of plantation on the linked news article.


Thanks. I didn't do that.....but will.
Anyway....the authorities had to know about it. They've been combing the countryside for years now. The only way that plot could exist is with their protection.

Read "Down By The River." It tells of massive plantations in Mexico that are guarded by military. Nothing new here.


.

[Edited on 7-14-2011 by DENNIS]


of course many people knew. the revenue stream from 300 acre plantationprobably supported hundreds of people in the know, and the owner/operator scared everyone else into silience.

look at el marmol area on google earth. only a few dozen people out there. you can see some big fields, but looks like crappy soil :lol::lol:

Martyman - 7-14-2011 at 01:03 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by bajatravelergeorge
Do people really smoke mexican pot in America? I heard that it is poor quality.


Some tightwads do, but pot prices have dropped more than 50% in the last few years. Now the pot dispensaries are a lot more expensive. Sometime the killer bud is too strong so people like the less potent strains (like mexican).

I'm sure people in the heartland will smoke whatever they can get.

DENNIS - 7-14-2011 at 01:05 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Woooosh
Next weeks BIG SURPRISE bust will likely be the opium production in that region.



Yeah....and get ready for "Woodstock Redux." There's a couple million recycled Hippies that are trying to find out where they're going to burn 130....well, 70 anyway...hectarias of weed. The downwind seats will go for a premium.

DENNIS - 7-14-2011 at 01:08 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by mtgoat666
you can see some big fields, but looks like crappy soil :lol::lol:


That's why they call it weed. It'll grow out of a bowling ball.

Von - 7-14-2011 at 01:09 PM

Darn they found my stash~:wow:

JESSE - 7-14-2011 at 01:11 PM

NOT the biggest pot bust. The military is especulating 120 tons, but law enforcement (in both sides of the border) tends to always claim each pot plant produces 1 kilo of dried product wich is untrue. San Quintin is a major producer of pot, has been for years, and the quality is superb.

Besides, most marijuana is grown domestically in the US, yet you never hear about it.:rolleyes:

mcfez - 7-14-2011 at 01:21 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by bajatravelergeorge
Do people really smoke mexican pot in America? I heard that it is poor quality.


Back in the 60s and 70s...yeah. Seeds, stems...and then some buds :-)


Since those days....sinsemilia has developed

Ken Cooke - 7-14-2011 at 01:27 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by bajatravelergeorge
Do people really smoke mexican pot in America? I heard that it is poor quality.


I saw on a Nat Geo program that it is cut using heavy metallic particles to increase its' weight, but making it toxic at the same time. :!:

mtgoat666 - 7-14-2011 at 01:39 PM

surprised to find so many nomads are experts on pot!

Woooosh - 7-14-2011 at 01:40 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by JESSE
NOT the biggest pot bust. The military is especulating 120 tons, but law enforcement (in both sides of the border) tends to always claim each pot plant produces 1 kilo of dried product wich is untrue. San Quintin is a major producer of pot, has been for years, and the quality is superb.

Besides, most marijuana is grown domestically in the US, yet you never hear about it.:rolleyes:

Well Jesse- as a restaurateur and herb expert don't you think the new Rosarito Farmer's Market should include ALL the regions fresh produce, or is this Pot not grown organically? I asked the lady at the FRAO office in Rosarito this morning and she was less than pleased. (The Farmer's market is weekend afternoons starting at 2pm, not mornings. There's no point selling vegetables until they wilt I guess.)
:saint::saint:

[Edited on 7-14-2011 by Woooosh]

Mexican soldiers find record marijuana plantation

BajaNews - 7-14-2011 at 01:56 PM

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/07/14/us-mexico-drugs-id...

By Lizbeth Diaz
Jul 14, 2011

SAN QUINTIN, Mexico (Reuters) - Mexican soldiers discovered the biggest marijuana plantation ever found in the country in a remote desert surrounded by cactuses, a top army officer said on Thursday.

Soldiers patrolling the area found 300 acres of marijuana plants being tended by dozens of men this week, said General Alfonso Duarte.

He said the crop, which was found in the state of Baja California, about 200 miles/320 km south of San Diego, California, would have yielded about 120 tonnes and was worth about $160 million.

"This is the biggest marijuana plantation we have found in the country," Duarte said.

The plants will be destroyed, he said.

Most of the men tending the crop escaped capture but six suspects were arrested later at a military checkpoint.

The men had dug a well at the barren site and pumped water through hoses to irrigate the plants, which were up to 8 feet tall.

President Felipe Calderon has deployed tens of thousands of troops to the streets to take on powerful drug traffickers shortly after taking office in late 2006.

Violence has spiraled since then, with more than 40,000 people killed across Mexico, hurting support for Calderon's conservative National Action Party (PAN), which faces an uphill struggle to secure re-election next July.

Mexico is America's top supplier of marijuana and most cocaine consumed in the United States passes through Mexico.

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Photo: Jorge Duenes

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David K - 7-14-2011 at 02:00 PM

Just over the hill from Hwy. 1... If only Google Earth would take fresh photos more often...!!

BajaNews - 7-14-2011 at 02:00 PM

Restrooms are pictured at the biggest marijuana plantation found in Mexico, in San Quintin, about 350 km (220 miles) away from Tijuana, July 13, 2011. Mexican soldiers discovered the plantation in a remote desert surrounded by cactuses, a top army officer said on Thursday. Soldiers patrolling the area found 300 acres (120 hectares) of pot plants being tended by dozens of men on Tuesday, said General Alfonso Duarte. Picture taken July 13, 2011.

Photo: Jorge Duenes

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Hallan narcocultivo de 120 hectáreas

BajaNews - 7-14-2011 at 02:18 PM

http://www.elvigia.net/noticia/hallan-narcocultivo-de-120-he...

By Andrés Peráles, El Valle
14.07.2011

El Rosario, B.C. - Cubierto con mallasombra para evitar ser detectado desde el aire, elementos del Ejército Mexicano descubrieron y aseguraron un megaplantío de mariguana con extensión de 120 hectáreas en la zona de El Rosario, al sur de Ensenada.
En el operativo realizado entre la tarde del martes y todo el día de ayer, los militares aseguraron un campamento en el que se presume que laboraban alrededor de 60 jornaleros, maquinaria para cultivos y una planta de energía.
Fueron capturados 16 hombres de origen sinaloense que viajaban en un camión de pasajeros y seis de ellos reconocieron que laboraban en el plantío.
Ellos fueron interceptados en el retén militar ubicado en El Rosario, donde al hacer una revisión a los pasajeros de un camión, notaron que el grupo de sinaloenses viajaba de manera sospechosa.
Aunque fueron seis nada más los que admitieron haber estado en el narcoplantío, aseguraron a los 16 y los pusieron a disposición del agente del Ministerio Público Federal.
En el reporte establecieron que en las 120 hectáreas había plantas que iban desde los 40 centímetros hasta los 4.5 metros, por lo que las autoridades castrenses calcularon que son alrededor de 120 toneladas de enervante asegurado y que será destruido.
El general Alfonso Duarte Mújica, comandante de la II Región Militar, encabezó el operativo que representa el segundo golpe más fuerte al narcotráfico en los meses recientes, luego del aseguramiento de 134 toneladas el 18 de octubre del 2010 en la ciudad de Tijuana, Baja California.
Duarte Mújica informó que fue en un sobrevuelo el martes como detectaron la mallasombra, pero no se apreciaba el plantío, por lo que mandaron a personal por la vía terrestre, con lo que ya confirmaron la presencia de las plantas de mariguana.

Duro golpe
Ubicación: Km.141 tramo El Rosario-Cataviña, a dos kms. de la carretera
Extensión: 120 hectáreas
Material asegurado:
Un campamento con capacidad para 60 jornaleros
Maquinaria para cultivo
2 pozos
1 planta de energía
Mallasombra
120 toneladas de mariguana en las plantas destruidas
300 elementos castrenses en el operativo

JESSE - 7-14-2011 at 02:20 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Woooosh
Quote:
Originally posted by JESSE
NOT the biggest pot bust. The military is especulating 120 tons, but law enforcement (in both sides of the border) tends to always claim each pot plant produces 1 kilo of dried product wich is untrue. San Quintin is a major producer of pot, has been for years, and the quality is superb.

Besides, most marijuana is grown domestically in the US, yet you never hear about it.:rolleyes:

Well Jesse- as a restaurateur and herb expert don't you think the new Rosarito Farmer's Market should include ALL the regions fresh produce, or is this Pot not grown organically? I asked the lady at the FRAO office in Rosarito this morning and she was less than pleased. (The Farmer's market is weekend afternoons starting at 2pm, not mornings. There's no point selling vegetables until they wilt I guess.)
:saint::saint:

[Edited on 7-14-2011 by Woooosh]


I doubt we will see one of these anytime soon in Rosarito.


Woooosh - 7-14-2011 at 02:32 PM

:lol::lol::lol::lol:

bajatravelergeorge - 7-14-2011 at 02:44 PM

This had to be the first year they were trying to grow a crop. My guess is that the military has inspected every farm, ranch, and village in Baja many times over.

Or was it the payola? But why bust it now?

Or have they known about it for awhile and they were trying to get the head honchos?

Woooosh - 7-14-2011 at 03:16 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by bajatravelergeorge
This had to be the first year they were trying to grow a crop. My guess is that the military has inspected every farm, ranch, and village in Baja many times over.

Or was it the payola? But why bust it now?

Or have they known about it for awhile and they were trying to get the head honchos?

The Military also has a barracks above the Popotla fishing village in Rosarito and that hasn't slowed down the human and drug smuggling by panga from there. Short trip from this grow field to Popotla with the Military manning the checkpoints and the Sinaloans run both operations. Just saying...
:rolleyes::rolleyes:

DENNIS - 7-14-2011 at 03:28 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by bajatravelergeorge
Or was it the payola? But why bust it now?




Who knows? A new sort of pressure from above perhaps. Or...maybe someone didn't get their allowance.
Endless possibilities which we'll never know.

JESSE - 7-14-2011 at 03:40 PM

Could it be? maybe? just maybe the soldier just did their job?

You guys are as paranoid as us Mexicans:lol:

Woooosh - 7-14-2011 at 04:36 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by JESSE
Could it be? maybe? just maybe the soldier just did their job?

You guys are as paranoid as us Mexicans:lol:

let me work on a conspiracy theory so we'll feel better about dismissing it.

DENNIS - 7-14-2011 at 04:46 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by JESSE
Could it be? maybe? just maybe the soldiers just did their job?



No....Not a chance.
OK....you get two more trys. :lol:

mtgoat666 - 7-14-2011 at 04:51 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by JESSE
Could it be? maybe? just maybe the soldier just did their job?


Given that the big fish got away and Army caught only the migrant laborers... let you draw your own conclusions

:?::?::?:

JESSE - 7-14-2011 at 04:53 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by mtgoat666
Quote:
Originally posted by JESSE
Could it be? maybe? just maybe the soldier just did their job?


Given that the big fish got away and Army caught only the migrant laborers... let you draw your own conclusions

:?::?::?:


The big fish are NEVER there, they been doing this for a logn time and know better.

DENNIS - 7-14-2011 at 04:54 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by mtgoat666
Given that the big fish got away and Army caught only the migrant laborers... let you draw your own conclusions

:?::?::?:


Yeah...but...do the big fish usually sit around in the dirt?
And....migrants? Were they illegal Americans?

mtgoat666 - 7-14-2011 at 05:01 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by DENNIS
Yeah...but...do the big fish usually sit around in the dirt?


have you seen that fish that can walk on land?

i suspect the big tuna is right now sipping margaritas in cabo, or shopping in la jolla

Bob H - 7-14-2011 at 06:35 PM

I agree, 120 tons seized in one case is not the largest on record. I know for a fact that when I was with the DEA in Miami back in the late 70's/early 80's, the DEA along with the Coast Guard brought in an oil tanker seized off the coast of Miami, that contained over 200 tons. We had to hire a large labor crew (and watch them closely) to unload the tanker and load 1,000's and 1,000's of bales onto large rental box trucks. There must have been a caravan of 25 large box trucks. We hauled all the weed on the Sunshine State Parkway, escorted by the Florida Highway Patrol, up to Orlando who had the only incinerating facility large enough to handle the destruction of all that weed!

Lots of photos and a dozen sample bales were saved for evidence in court.

[Edited on 7-15-2011 by Bob H]

woody with a view - 7-14-2011 at 06:42 PM

a guy i saw puffing last weekend said he buys 2 kilos at a time and that lasts him all year. when "the guy" has a new crop he knows what dude wants and brings it. it was decent, tho i don't know how or why......

that stuff they grow in nor cal is like lsd these days.

biggie small

mtgoat666 - 7-14-2011 at 07:11 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Bob H
I agree, 120 tons seized in one case is not the largest on record.


i think they meant largest plantation busted, in mexico. it was 300 ac densely planted young plants. would have been quite a crop if allowed to grow, esp if good bud.
wish they would report THC content along with oinnage

805gregg - 7-14-2011 at 07:46 PM

I bought mota in 1973 from a guy's cousin we met in Colonet, he grew it in his front yard, one corn, one mota, and so on, I said aren't you worried about the cops, he said no! the chief of police was his uncle, so that's Mexico

marijuana abound

chrisx - 7-14-2011 at 09:02 PM

http://news.yahoo.com/army-finds-mexicos-biggest-marijuana-p...

Mexican soldiers have found the largest marijuana plantation ever detected in Mexico, a huge field covering almost 300 acres (120 hectares), the Defense Department said Thursday.

The plantation is four times larger than the previous record discovery by authorities at a ranch in northern Chihuahua state in 1984.

The pot plants sheltered under black screen-cloth in a huge square on the floor of the Baja California desert, more than 150 miles (250 kilometers) south of Tijuana, across the border from San Diego.

Army Gen. Alfonso Duarte said the screening, which is often used by regular farmers to protect crops from too much sun or heat, made it difficult to detect from the air what was growing underneath.

It was only when soldiers on the ground reached the isolated area Tuesday that they found thousands of pot plants as high as 2.5 yards (meters) tall. The average height of the plants was about 1.5 yards (meters). Duarte said they were not yet ready for harvest.

"We estimate that in this area, approximately 60 people were working. When they saw the military personnel, they fled," Duarte told reporters. A few were later reportedly detained at a nearby roadblock, but Duarte said no arrests were made at the scene.

He said traffickers could have harvested about 120 tons of marijuana from the plantation, worth about 1.8 billion pesos (about $160 million).

Video of the plantation showed a sophisticated system of piped-in irrigation to support the plants, which Duarte said was fed by two wells. The plantation also included some wooden outbuildings, presumably for use by people caring for the plants.

Troops will destroy the fields by burning them, Duarte said.

The site is the near the coastal town of San Quintin. Journalists were en route there Thursday under army escort.

While it's unknown how much of Mexican drug cartels' income comes from marijuana, recent discoveries suggest it remains a large-scale trade.

Last October, Mexican authorities made their largest-ever seizure of marijuana packaged for sale, a record 148 tons (134 metric tons) found in a number of tractor trailers and houses in Tijuana. They appeared to make up a major distribution center traced directly to Joaquin "El Chapo" Guzman, Mexico's most-wanted fugitive, who has expanded the reach of his Sinaloa cartel along the U.S.-Mexico border since escaping from prison in 2001.

In November, U.S. and Mexican investigators found two long, sophisticated tunnels under the border between Baja California and California, along with more than 40 tons of marijuana in and around the tunnels.

The tunnels ran about 2,000 feet from Mexico to San Diego and were equipped with lighting, ventilation and a rail system for drugs to be carried on a small cart.

U.S. officials say they believe the tunnels also were the work of the Sinaloa cartel.

While the Arellano Felix or Tijuana cartel long dominated the drug trade in Baja California, the cartel has been greatly weakened by government hits on its leadership, and authorities say there are signs that the Sinaloa cartel now also operates in the area.

Duarte said he did not know which group operated the plantation found Tuesday.

bajajurel - 7-14-2011 at 09:03 PM

What??? They couldn't even afford doors on the crappers?:no:

bacquito - 7-14-2011 at 09:33 PM

Good for Mexico!!

capt. mike - 7-15-2011 at 05:58 AM

do they have camping there?

mcfez - 7-15-2011 at 06:19 AM

This should had been posted in "Baja News"

Why dont you ask the fat lady in the red car to transfer this post for you?

Martyman - 7-15-2011 at 07:58 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by capt. mike
do they have camping there?


:lol::lol::lol:

David K - 7-15-2011 at 08:05 AM

Yah Mike, they would have just LOVED to have you land your plane there!

(the next day: "Dude, you see where I parked my plane?")

luv2fish - 7-15-2011 at 08:25 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by David K
Yah Mike, they would have just LOVED to have you land your plane there!

(the next day: "Dude, you see where I parked my plane?")


:lol::lol::lol: I was waiting for some humor to come out of this, though I was really waiting for more coments on the neatly aligned crappers. I wonder if these are filled to the top like the wooden kind ???

bigzaggin - 7-15-2011 at 08:26 AM

I saw this and was trying to place where it is...maybe somewhere near Mike's Sky Ranch area? Anyone?

krafty - 7-15-2011 at 08:29 AM

There was another post yesterday that gives you almost the exact location.

mtgoat666 - 7-15-2011 at 09:21 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Don Jorge
Quote:
Originally posted by JESSE
NOT the biggest pot bust.

You got that right.


well, i like to think it is biggest, and i hope you support our troops and let them have their day in the sun :lol:

DavidE - 7-15-2011 at 10:22 AM

Predator drones from McDill AFB found this and other shaded operations. The days of impunity are over.

Bajajorge - 7-15-2011 at 10:29 AM

If they burn it down all of Baja will gain weight.;)

Bob H - 7-15-2011 at 10:31 AM

Here's the first thread regarding this event...

http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=54068

motoged - 7-15-2011 at 10:48 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Bob H
Here's the first thread regarding this event...
http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=54068


Dudes, hey....like which thread do I read....this is like kinda too much work following two threads, man....:biggrin:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Nj3CNOKH0s

bryanmckenzie - 7-15-2011 at 12:00 PM

WOW! I think I found it, David. At 300 acres, if it was a square, that's over 3,600 feet on a side! Draw a line that long in Google Earth or a square and you could easily see it, canopy or not, from as high as 20 miles before it blends in with the surrounding terrain.

Now I don't want to share the location just yet --- I need to investigate what I think are arches, a corral and a dam.

Quote:
Originally posted by David K
Just over the hill from Hwy. 1... If only Google Earth would take fresh photos more often...!!


[Edited on 2011-7-15 by bryanmckenzie]

mcfez - 7-15-2011 at 12:16 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by motoged
Quote:
Originally posted by Bob H
Here's the first thread regarding this event...
http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=54068


Dudes, hey....like which thread do I read....this is like kinda too much work following two threads, man....:biggrin:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Nj3CNOKH0s


:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

DENNIS - 7-15-2011 at 12:38 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by motoged
Dudes, hey....like which thread do I read....this is like kinda too much work following two threads, man



Read one...then get a big ol' bong work-out...and channel your spirit to the other.
Jeeeezo...is this so difficult? :?::biggrin:

Woooosh - 7-15-2011 at 12:41 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by luv2fish
Quote:
Originally posted by David K
Yah Mike, they would have just LOVED to have you land your plane there!

(the next day: "Dude, you see where I parked my plane?")


:lol::lol::lol: I was waiting for some humor to come out of this, though I was really waiting for more coments on the neatly aligned crappers. I wonder if these are filled to the top like the wooden kind ???

I was actually impressed by them, like I am rail systems and ventilation in the under-border tunnels. They aren't short on cash after all.

tripledigitken - 7-15-2011 at 12:51 PM

.......then go ride your bike

Marc - 7-15-2011 at 01:14 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Bajajorge
If they burn it down all of Baja will gain weight.;)


I wanna be nearby!:D:D:D:wow::wow::wow::wow:

motoged - 7-15-2011 at 01:50 PM

Read one...then get a big ol' bong work-out...and channel your spirit to the other.
Jeeeezo...is this so difficult? :?::biggrin:

And then go ride your bike...



Cool, man....I've got that covered....but I can't read my I-phone too good when ripped on the bike.......aside from that, I've got it covered :biggrin: :cool::cool: :saint::saint:

Bajahowodd - 7-15-2011 at 03:50 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Bajajorge
If they burn it down all of Baja will gain weight.;)


Isn't it the other way around? This wasn't a meth factory. Seems to me that there will be a massive end to the munchies!:lol:

thebajarunner - 7-15-2011 at 04:50 PM

FOX t/v/ just ran an aerial clip of the site,
no way, I mean absolutely no way, anyone could miss that big piece of business.

Very very impressive on the brief video that ran, then a few ground level shots as well,

but the over head view was pretty sensational!!

norte - 7-15-2011 at 04:56 PM

Like most of Mexico, Baja California will let things go....unless there is something else to be gained...or there is pressure from the DEA. Hey maybe they will stp those senseless military stops now.

David K - 7-15-2011 at 05:03 PM

Don't you just wonder HOW they were going to transport that crop from the farm...??? I mean with the military checking every truck northbound... and all the landing fields ditched by the military... Just how was it going to get out of Baja... out of that desert near San Agustin???

David K - 7-15-2011 at 05:13 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by bigzaggin
I saw this and was trying to place where it is...maybe somewhere near Mike's Sky Ranch area? Anyone?


Wow, how did you guys miss this story already posted... ??

http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=54068

The location was given there, as Km. 141 south of El Rosario (near San Agustin)... and just over the hill from the highway.

News reports have posted the location as Ensenada (well it is in the county of Ensenada, yes)... and San Quintin, and the 'town' of El Marmol! LOL

(The El Marmol road is at Km. 148.5)

58 held in Mexico's biggest marijuana farm bust

BajaNews - 7-15-2011 at 07:14 PM

http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2011/07/15/20110715me...

Jul. 15, 2011

SAN QUINTIN, Mexico - Farm workers fled the camp dinner table when Mexican soldiers on routine patrol turned up at their lush, mesh-covered oasis stretching across the harsh Baja California desert.

Two men were caught in the camp and 56 others were rounded up in the area around what the Mexican government calls the biggest marijuana plantation ever found in the country.

Officials on Friday showed reporters the sophisticated operation, which the army says popped up in less than four months.

Army officers said the vast farm just 1½ miles (2.5 kilometers) from the main federal highway in Baja California state appeared to be the work of the Sinaloa cartel. The same gang was tied to Mexico's largest bust of marijuana packaged for sale last fall and sophisticated underground border tunnels discovered in November, both also in Baja California.

No one has been charged in the raid on the huge pot farm late Tuesday. The suspected workers are still being questioned.

Two of the men said they were from Sinaloa state, headquarters of the Sinaloa cartel led by Joaquin "El Chapo" Guzman, Mexico's most-wanted fugitive. The farm was in remote territory of the Baja peninsula, 280 miles (450 kilometers) south of Tijuana, that is believed to be controlled by Guzman's cartel.

"There are indications that these are zones of the Sinaloa cartel," said infantry Maj. Bernardo Rafael Sanchez, spokesman for the army's second region, which covers the border states of Baja California and Sonora.

Some areas of the more than half-mile-square (kilometer-square) marijuana farm resembled a nursery, with small plants. Other parts were like mature corn fields with neat rows of forest green plants rising more than six feet to a protective mesh shielding the expanse of plants. From the air, it looks like a giant square of asphalt.

Authorities believe as many as 120 men worked the farm, living in four rudimentary, plywood buildings, including a large bunkhouse with long sleeping platforms for up to 60 people, a living room and the kitchen.

Beans, cheese and salsa sat on the dinner table nearly three days after the raid, along with CDs of Norteno music. Women's lingerie and platform heels were found in one of the smaller bedrooms. Army officials said women did not appear to have worked in the fields and may have been there for "entertainment."

The army also found prepaid telephone cards and communications antennas.

Marijuana plantations this large and sophisticate are rare in Mexico, especially in Baja California, army Brig. Gen. Gilberto Landeros said.

Pot cultivation is much more common in the Sierra Madre mountain range in northern Sonora, Durango and Sinaloa states.

Federal authorities said the Baja pot farm was nearly double the size of an operation found in Sinaloa in 2007 and four times the size of the "Bufalo" farm discovered in the border state of Chihuahua in 1984. Estimates of the size of the Bufalo plantation vary widely.

The army said that troops patrol this area of arid bushland and cactus every three to four months and that the plantation was not here just a few months ago. The operators used wells for water, and tiny irrigation hoses fed every plant. There were also discarded boxes of the herbicide Gramoxone.

"At first they thought it must have been a vegetable farm," Landeros said of the soldiers who walked onto the ranch.

Army Gen. Alfonso Duarte said traffickers could have harvested about 120 tons of marijuana from the plantation, worth about 1.8 billion pesos ($160 million).

Troops have begun destroying the operation by burning the marijuana plants. Landeros said it would take a week.

Soldiers to destroy Mexico's largest pot plantation

BajaNews - 7-15-2011 at 07:16 PM

http://tinyurl.com/6ku8pvh

TIJUANA, Mexico — Mexican soldiers will begin destroying the country's largest ever marijuana plantation under the watchful eyes of state prosecutors, officials said Friday, as hundreds of troops descended on the site.

"We estimate that it will take at least eight days" for soldiers to destroy the 120 hectare (nearly 300 acre) pot farm, said Army General Alfonso Duarte.

From the air, the site had appeared to be nothing but an enormous black stain. But when soldiers visited the farm on the Baja California peninsula, they discovered the massive plantation under the black tarps.

The tarps are designed to protect the plants from the blazing hot sun in the Baja desert, and a casual observer could easily believe they were protecting tomatoes, which are widely grown in the region.

Duarte, the commander of the military region based in the far north-western border city of Tijuana, took reporters on a helicopter ride to the site, located near the center of the peninsula.

Some 250 soldiers were meanwhile deployed to the plantation for protection and to begin the destruction.

The plantation was built around the peninsula's main north-south highway and includes a network of hoses that connect wells to a sophisticated drip irrigation system.

Duarte said he did not know which drug cartel owned the plantation, but emphasized it was the biggest pot plantation ever found in Mexico.

The record-busting Baja plantation is much larger than the 64 hectare (160 acre) pot farm discovered in Sinaloa state in 2007, and the 84 hectare (208 acre) farm discovered in Chihuahua state in 1984.

There is also housing for some 60 workers -- when soldiers approached the site, as the employees were having a meal, they all fled. Six however were later captured at a military checkpoint.

The crop was ready for harvest, and Duarte estimated the plantation could produce 120 tons of cannabis, which he valued at nearly $160 million.




[Edited on 7-16-2011 by BajaNews]

805gregg - 7-15-2011 at 07:34 PM

They just busted a pot farm here in Ventura county, 63,000 plants, (worth some $230,000,000 bucks), or so they estimate.

wessongroup - 7-15-2011 at 07:36 PM

WoW.. What a grow... and they kinda look like tomatoes .... Well, they are green :lol::lol:

For Those of You Who Are Interested in the Various Qualites of Pot

Gypsy Jan - 7-15-2011 at 10:04 PM

Here is an interesting report and discussion:
http://gawker.com/5821498/mexico-finds-biggest-marijuana-pla...

This makes me laugh because all the people posting comments sound exactly like a bunch of wine snobs arguing with each other.

Here is my pitch to the cable executives: "Marijuana Connoisseurs" The Next Gourmet Challenge Reality Show (On the Cooking or Food Network)

[Edited on 7-16-2011 by Gypsy Jan]

motoged - 7-16-2011 at 09:33 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by 805gregg
They just busted a pot farm here in Ventura county, 63,000 plants, (worth some $230,000,000 bucks), or so they estimate.


Some body is optimistic!

The average outdoor plant will usually produce between 1-8 ounces of bud (not counting leaf).
A pound of good bud might cost as much as $3000-$3500 (current BC bud price in Canada)....

So, this grow of 63,000 plants would likely produce about 31,500 pounds....@ $3000 ....that would bring in about $94,000,000....

Still not a bad return. huh?

I guess someone like Skeet would settle for the shake :biggrin:
at a lower price

wessongroup - 7-16-2011 at 09:44 AM

1-8 oz/plant ... that's a poor grow... think they said some of the plants were 8'.. maybe they were all males... HUH

"Skeet would settle for the shake" :lol::lol::lol:

motoged - 7-16-2011 at 09:48 AM

This plant would produce less than a pound of bud:




The math is still optimistic....

[Edited on 7-17-2011 by BajaNomad]

Cypress - 7-16-2011 at 10:09 AM

A total waste of time/manpower/money! Meanwhile, little kids can't play outdoors due to all the psychopaths roaming at will. Legalize pot and make jail space for dangerous criminals.

wessongroup - 7-16-2011 at 10:13 AM

Got to work on your fertilization ... that is one nice plant ... thanks for sharing...

Good the cat isn't like many others... they tend to reek damage...

Let us know the final results...

[Edited on 7-16-2011 by wessongroup]

bryanmckenzie - 7-16-2011 at 10:23 AM

Like right around these coordinates? Unfortunately, the image year is given as 2004. Also, fly due west a few miles to see many more fields. Field size match approximately the acreage.

29°51'19.70"N
115°30'28.58"W

Google Earth Placemark

Quote:
The location was given there, as Km. 141 south of El Rosario (near San Agustin)... and just over the hill from the highway.

News reports have posted the location as Ensenada (well it is in the county of Ensenada, yes)... and San Quintin, and the 'town' of El Marmol! LOL (The El Marmol road is at Km. 148.5)







[Edited on 2011-7-16 by bryanmckenzie]

sancho - 7-16-2011 at 12:27 PM

Looks like we have a few Spicoli's floating
around on BN

Humboldt Chris and Robin - 7-16-2011 at 12:57 PM

wow, 300 acres would make any of us old Humboldt hippies have pleasant dreams for a long long time!

Skeet/Loreto - 7-16-2011 at 01:15 PM

Well Ole Skeet in the years past has had the Great Pleasure of Helping to destroy a whole bunch of that DOPE!

Yes, not to long ago while residing near Los Banos California I was hired to seek out the Filds of DOPE, usually being grown in amongst the Cornfilds.
They gave me a Cessna 180 and a short set of Field Glasses.
What Fun!! I could cruise along about 1,000 feet and spot the stuff real easy, report the location and next day take a photo of the Burned Area

This program developed into the present actions where most Farmers cooperating with the local Sheriff gets some special Grant Money if they find and report if someone is trying to Grow DOPE in their Fields.

Even as some people will asways bring up Booze when DOPE is being discussed, it is still More Bad than Booze. One of the reasons is its leading to other more serious Drugs.

What I often wonder about is "Why"? What is wrong with the Minds of theses individuals that they have to have DOPE???

It does my ole heart good to see the DOPERS arrested and sent tp Prison. Glad to hear that this large amount Of DOPE was destroyed.
Might save some Childs Life,

Skeet/Loreto:The one and only True One}
.

David K - 7-16-2011 at 02:24 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by bryanmckenzie
Like right around these coordinates? Unfortunately, the image year is given as 2004. Also, fly due west a few miles to see many more fields. Field size match approximately the acreage.

29°51'19.70"N
115°30'28.58"W

Google Earth Placemark

Quote:
The location was given there, as Km. 141 south of El Rosario (near San Agustin)... and just over the hill from the highway.

News reports have posted the location as Ensenada (well it is in the county of Ensenada, yes)... and San Quintin, and the 'town' of El Marmol! LOL (The El Marmol road is at Km. 148.5)







[Edited on 2011-7-16 by bryanmckenzie]


You Google map pin is way off... We are talking about just 2-3 kms. from Hwy. 1 and 4 kms. west of San Agustin... I don't have my map in front of me, but I think Rancho el Aguila may be near there?

motoged - 7-16-2011 at 02:37 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by wessongroup
Got to work on your fertilization ... that is one nice plant ... thanks for sharing... Good the cat isn't like many others... they tend to reek damage... Let us know the final results...
[Edited on 7-16-2011 by wessongroup]


WG,
I got that pic off the net.....I don't have a cat :lol::lol:

But I will follow your advice should my green thumb get an itch :cool:

Growing is too risky for my interests. And besides, if any of that ch1t was laying around, I would just have to burn the evidence :saint:

O.G. - 7-16-2011 at 03:23 PM

Are Stateside medical MJ prescriptions recognized in MX? Also, isn't it now legal to possess a certain small amount (including hard drugs)?

woody with a view - 7-16-2011 at 03:53 PM

yes, unless you are not Mexican.

DENNIS - 7-16-2011 at 03:56 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by O.G.
Are Stateside medical MJ prescriptions recognized in MX? Also, isn't it now legal to possess a certain small amount (including hard drugs)?


Excuse me while I laugh myself to death.
Get caught here with a pinch of weed and try for the legal amount defence and see where it gets you.

The recent new law was written for nationals within the country and included treatment programs....all toward a cleaner society.

Your method of entertainment wasn't included in the description.

Don't ever, for your sake, try to invoke Mexico law in your defense without a powerhouse attorney speaking for you.

Just don't. You will pay.

Woooosh - 7-16-2011 at 06:36 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Humboldt Chris and Robin
wow, 300 acres would make any of us old Humboldt hippies have pleasant dreams for a long long time!

If only they had those seeds...
:saint::rolleyes:

The people of El Marmol will soon be feeling good.

luv2fish - 7-16-2011 at 06:55 PM

The crops are going up in smoke.Wonder if the soldiers get high from breathing this stuff while it burns.:no::no::yawn::yawn::yawn:

http://www.afntijuana.info/seguridad/2299_estiman_perdida_de...

And another 1.5 tons.

luv2fish - 7-16-2011 at 07:16 PM

This chit does not stop. Another big bust but small by Mexican standards.
http://www.afntijuana.info/seguridad/2286_ejercito_decomiso_...

bajajurel - 7-16-2011 at 09:46 PM

The really bad news about this farm is that this is now spreading to Baja and you know what happens after that!

luv2fish - 7-17-2011 at 01:54 AM

chit happens... why is it when I post the "S" word, it automatically changes it over to POOP ?? I like the "S" word..

wessongroup - 7-17-2011 at 10:01 AM

"I would just have to burn the evidence"

A wise man... :):)

DENNIS - 7-17-2011 at 10:04 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by luv2fish
poop happens... why is it when I post the "S" word, it automatically changes it over to POOP ?? I like the "S" word..


You just have to be smarter than a machine. :biggrin:

BajaNomad - 7-17-2011 at 10:14 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by DENNIS
Quote:
Originally posted by luv2fish
poop happens... why is it when I post the "S" word, it automatically changes it over to POOP ?? I like the "S" word..


You just have to be smarter than a machine. :biggrin:


:rolleyes:

DENNIS - 7-17-2011 at 10:36 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by BajaNomad
:rolleyes:



ooooops....thought you'd be at Soccer practice today. :O

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