BajaNomad - US warns of bombs at Mexico border crossings ***

US warns of bombs at Mexico border crossings ***

BajaNews - 7-15-2011 at 06:29 PM

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/43774558/ns/world_news-america...

7/15/2011

EL PASO, Texas — Following the recent arrests of drug cartel suspects, the United States on Friday warned Americans traveling to or from Chihuahua, Mexico, that U.S. border crossings and the local consulate could become the targets of attacks.

"Information has come to light that suggests a cartel may be targeting the U.S. Consulate in Ciudad Juarez or U.S. Ports of Entry," the consulate said in a statement Friday. "In the past, cartels have been willing to utilize car bombs in attacks. We ask American citizens to remain vigilant."

tjBill - 7-15-2011 at 06:59 PM

Wow, they are doing everything they can to scare Americans for visiting.

DENNIS - 7-15-2011 at 08:34 PM

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Originally posted by tjBill
Wow, they are doing everything they can to scare Americans for visiting.

Jeeeezo, Bill.....Can't fault honesty.

krafty - 7-15-2011 at 08:56 PM

Wait-wasn't there supposed to be a huge wash out over the 4th?

norte - 7-15-2011 at 09:08 PM

looks like a little more than trying to scare visitors!

Hopefully

MrBillM - 7-15-2011 at 09:09 PM

There will be Video.

Pictures are always better.

Hook - 7-15-2011 at 09:46 PM

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Originally posted by tjBill
Wow, they are doing everything they can to scare Americans for visiting.

Who is "they"?

Who is this group of Americans that meet secretly and try and discourage people from visiting Mexico? :rolleyes:

Who cares?

Dave - 7-15-2011 at 10:12 PM

Isn't this threat way over there...to the east?

We're over here.

DENNIS - 7-16-2011 at 06:48 AM

New spelling for Cd. Juarez = Baghdad

Which reminds me....I haven't heard squat from the Baja Image Committee lately. Maybe it went the way of most committees here; after the free lunch, they die a natural death.

wessongroup - 7-16-2011 at 08:03 AM

Say what... "Baja Image Committee" ... now thats a hoot....

Woooosh - 7-16-2011 at 08:15 AM

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Originally posted by wessongroup
Say what... "Baja Image Committee" ... now thats a hoot....

Image meets truth and reality. Truth wins... again. The most viewed of the Baja Image Committees You Tube videos has a whopping 150 views.

Bajajorge - 7-16-2011 at 08:41 AM

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Originally posted by Hook

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Originally posted by tjBill
Wow, they are doing everything they can to scare Americans for visiting.

Who is "they"?

Who is this group of Americans that meet secretly and try and discourage people from visiting Mexico? :rolleyes:

Could be the bunch in the black helicopters wearing the black pajamas.

WHO are THEY ?

MrBillM - 7-16-2011 at 09:06 AM

Gnu knows.

Gnu has an encyclopedic knowledge of ALL World Conspiracies (past, present and future) including WHO is involved for WHAT purpose. Check with him for details, BUT before doing so, be aware that at some point International World Bankers are involved. They are the one constant in ALL World Conspiracies.

Buena Suerte.

JoeJustJoe - 7-16-2011 at 09:58 AM

From the article: Following the recent arrests of drug cartel suspects, the United States on Friday warned Americans traveling to or from Chihuahua, Mexico, that U.S. border crossings and the local consulate could become the targets of attacks. "Information has come to light that suggests a cartel may be targeting the U.S. Consulate in Ciudad Juarez or U.S. Ports of Entry," the consulate said in a statement Friday. "In the past, cartels have been willing to utilize car bombs in attacks. We ask American citizens to remain vigilant."
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So a few cartel drug suspects are arrested, and now the 'consulate or other US officials think they could become targets, or US ports of entry could become targets?

Where is the threat from the drug cartels to the US Consulate or the US Ports of Entry? Where is the history of the Mexican drug cartels targeting innocent US citizens or the US Consulate?

Yet out of nowhere they issue a warning when they haven't even said they received a death threat.

Why don't they also warn of possible attacks by space aliens? I guess that could happen too.

It sounds to me that a Consulate official is really scared, and wants everybody to be scared too?

Rick Perry that crackpot, and others in Texas has been issuing these type of warnings for some time, and claiming citizens of Texas are at risk inside Texas, and there was even been talk of going into Mexico and fighting the Mexican drug cartels with the Texas Rangers and Chuck Norris types!

Oh another thing......what happens over the Texas border at El Paso and Cd. Juarez has nothing to do with Baja.

The alarmist often like to post violence type stories that happen in other parts of Mexico in order to scare Americans wanting to visit the San Diego/ Tijuana/Baja area. I could care less what's going on over in Juarez, because I don't plan on visiting there any time soon.

wessongroup - 7-16-2011 at 10:07 AM

Think they® are trying to cut down the "volume" of traffic ... hence manpower requirements.. much cheaper than spending more on "programs" and "manpower"... just saying...

toneart - 7-16-2011 at 10:28 AM

The U.S. will trump up an excuse for WAR anywhere and everywhere they think we can get stuck in a quagmire. That is the longterm economic plan! It will continue to support the WAR industries. It will cull the overpopulation problem, too.

It will make the lower 99% of our population indentured slaves.This is now happening before our eyes, much faster than we had imagined. If you can't see it, and continue to support this with your votes and swallow the Murdoch media disinformation cool aid, you are asleep and will be totally unable to cope. It is all coming down now, as we speak.

That is not to say that the cartels are not murderous scum. They are! But we have fed the beast. We will never stop the users but we can decriminalize drugs and stop the push back. Violence begets violence. The threat or fear of violence does the same. Our culture does not have the mentality to comprehend this and we plunge dead-on ahead-until The End...

J.P. - 7-16-2011 at 11:06 AM

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Originally posted by wessongroup
Think they® are trying to cut down the "volume" of traffic ... hence manpower requirements.. much cheaper than spending more on "programs" and "manpower"... just saying...

That would be easy just quit their harassment program and allow the traffic to flow at a normal pace through the border
We GOT BEN LAUDEN DIDN'T WE.

DENNIS - 7-16-2011 at 11:14 AM

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We GOT BEN LAUDEN DIDN'T WE.

Probably, but it wasn't ever about the man alone. More the spirit of the man. I don't think we got that.

J.P. - 7-16-2011 at 11:45 AM

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We GOT BEN LAUDEN DIDN'T WE.

Probably, but it wasn't ever about the man alone. More the spirit of the man. I don't think we got that.

Your right about him , but why does joe citizen have to pay the price every time the goverment says this is going to make you safer.

DENNIS - 7-16-2011 at 11:49 AM

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Your right about him , but why does joe citizen have to pay the price every time the goverment says this is going to make you safer.

Dunno. I guess a poor excuse is better than none at all.

norte - 7-16-2011 at 12:19 PM

for those that think baja is safe from Cartel activity, look at the analysis of who was behind the 300 acres in the middle of BC.

Woooosh - 7-16-2011 at 12:33 PM

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Originally posted by norte
for those that think baja is safe from Cartel activity, look at the analysis of who was behind the 300 acres in the middle of BC.

You are in no more danger now that you were two years ago when the pozolero was dissolving bodies in acid in Ensenada for El Teo. Same cartel, but much less violent here now. Maybe a deal was made.

norte - 7-16-2011 at 01:52 PM

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Originally posted by Woooosh

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Originally posted by norte
for those that think baja is safe from Cartel activity, look at the analysis of who was behind the 300 acres in the middle of BC.

You are in no more danger now that you were two years ago when the pozolero was dissolving bodies in acid in Ensenada for El Teo. Same cartel, but much less violent here now. Maybe a deal was made.

And that makes it safe? not much comfort for me.

Woooosh - 7-16-2011 at 02:04 PM

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Originally posted by norte

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Originally posted by Woooosh

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Originally posted by norte
for those that think baja is safe from Cartel activity, look at the analysis of who was behind the 300 acres in the middle of BC.

You are in no more danger now that you were two years ago when the pozolero was dissolving bodies in acid in Ensenada for El Teo. Same cartel, but much less violent here now. Maybe a deal was made.

And that makes it safe? not much comfort for me.

How many tourists have been killed in Baja by the cartels? (expats don't count to Mexico). President Calderon has promised the only shots you will encounter in Mexico as tourists are Tequila shots. right?

[Edited on 7-16-2011 by Woooosh]

norte - 7-16-2011 at 02:11 PM

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Originally posted by Woooosh

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Originally posted by norte

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Originally posted by Woooosh

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Originally posted by norte
for those that think baja is safe from Cartel activity, look at the analysis of who was behind the 300 acres in the middle of BC.

You are in no more danger now that you were two years ago when the pozolero was dissolving bodies in acid in Ensenada for El Teo. Same cartel, but much less violent here now. Maybe a deal was made.

And that makes it safe? not much comfort for me.

Taken form the State department warning

"Bystanders, including U.S. citizens, have been injured or killed in violent incidents in various parts of the country, especially, but not exclusively in the northern border region, demonstrating the heightened risk of violence throughout Mexico. "

Woooosh - 7-16-2011 at 02:20 PM

It's the two spins. The "visit Baja" chorus doesn't deny the narco crime is going on, they just say no tourists have been targeted (with a few exceptions in Acapulco I think) so it is safe for tourism. The "stay away from Baja" chorus accepts the crime and State Department warnings and feels the only way to be safe- is not to go. Everyone has their own comfort level with safety and most people are more to the middle, we travel in Baja with certain conditions (like no night driving, etc.)

[Edited on 7-16-2011 by Woooosh]

Tony's The Man!

Bajahowodd - 7-16-2011 at 03:39 PM

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Originally posted by toneart
The U.S. will trump up an excuse for WAR anywhere and everywhere they think we can get stuck in a quagmire. That is the longterm economic plan! It will continue to support the WAR industries. It will cull the overpopulation problem, too.

It will make the lower 99% of our population indentured slaves.This is now happening before our eyes, much faster than we had imagined. If you can't see it, and continue to support this with your votes and swallow the Murdoch media disinformation cool aid, you are asleep and will be totally unable to cope. It is all coming down now, as we speak.

That is not to say that the cartels are not murderous scum. They are! But we have fed the beast. We will never stop the users but we can decriminalize drugs and stop the push back. Violence begets violence. The threat or fear of violence does the same. Our culture does not have the mentality to comprehend this and we plunge dead-on ahead-until The End...

Most of what he has just posted is incontrovertible.

Rich, powerful, seeking greater riches and power.

DENNIS - 7-16-2011 at 03:46 PM

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Originally posted by Bajahowodd
Rich, powerful, seeking greater riches and power.

Well...what should they seek? Poverty and subserviance?

Bajahowodd - 7-16-2011 at 03:51 PM

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Originally posted by DENNIS

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Originally posted by Bajahowodd
Rich, powerful, seeking greater riches and power.

Well...what should they seek? Poverty and subserviance?

It's not so much about them. They will try to do what they will do. It's about what happens to the rest of us.

The US is gradually becoming a poverty stricken serfdom that the wealthy control.

DENNIS - 7-16-2011 at 04:05 PM

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Originally posted by Bajahowodd
The US is gradually becoming a poverty stricken serfdom that the wealthy control.

Well....it's not a new idea, but communism will bring that under control.

JoeJustJoe - 7-16-2011 at 04:12 PM

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Originally posted by norte
for those that think baja is safe from Cartel activity, look at the analysis of who was behind the 300 acres in the middle of BC.

What analysis? Where is your link?

I take it you're talking about the 300 acres of marijuana found in Baja?

So because 300 acres of marijuana a natural or planted crop was found in Baja it means the Baja area is very dangerous because the drug cartels are behind the marijuana crops?

I can't think of a more safer drug than marijuana and could care less if they found marijuana fields are in Baja, or that that marijuana is much in demand in America.

Both sides of the border should have legalized or at least decriminalized marijuana a long time ago since it's a staple drug and easily grown and sold by the Mexican drug cartels.

The way I hear it is Mexican marijuana is considered junk and not very good to other marijuana from other parts of the world. Most Americans with a little bit more money want their weed from other places than Mexico.

What a waste of time and a waste of perfectly good crop to burn all those acres of marijuana.

The Coming Serfdom ?

MrBillM - 7-16-2011 at 04:16 PM

Now, THAT is pretty SCARY.

I've seen the movies.

NONE of those Serfs had TVs.

Or, much of anything else.

NOW, I'm worried.

Bajahowodd - 7-16-2011 at 04:16 PM

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Originally posted by DENNIS

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Originally posted by Bajahowodd
The US is gradually becoming a poverty stricken serfdom that the wealthy control.

Well....it's not a new idea, but communism will bring that under control.

I'm shocked!

Communism? WTF is that? Even during the Cold War, there were no actual communist nations. There were dictators who hijacked the name, acting under the guise of communism.

Just think that in 2011, anyone who invoke the term communism is doing it as a provocateur.

In any case, what we face in today's world is the battle between the evil of the corporatocracy, and the evil of relinquishing some freedoms for the greater good of the country.

DENNIS - 7-16-2011 at 04:44 PM

You're a screaming liberal, Howard. You're a commie that doesn't want to share what he has.....only what other people have.
Leave me out of it.

toneart - 7-17-2011 at 05:31 PM

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Originally posted by DENNIS
You're a screaming liberal, Howard. You're a commie that doesn't want to share what he has.....only what other people have.
Leave me out of it.

Dennis,
You know better than that! At least, I hope you do. :?:

Communism is not a viable answer nor is it a functioning political system. There are no Communists trying to take over the U.S.

Liberal does not = commie! :!:

That term is archaic; a throwback Boogieman to the 1950's Joe McCarthy/John Birch Society "The Russians are coming...build a bomb shelter" mentality.

To disagree with the Liberal ideology is understandable. There is a huge political chasm that separates us. While I disagree with the ultra right/Tea Party philosophy, I understand their arguments. I can see how they can support their arguments too.

So, Dennis! Come up with a better argument like I have often seen and respected in your posts. Anyone using the "Commie" rhetoric has not thought it through for themselves. They have adopted that rhetoric from Murdock's Fox News Disinformation Machine, or else they have adopted it from someone else who has been misinformed.

:light:

DENNIS - 7-17-2011 at 05:48 PM

OK....PINKO. Is that better?
Maybe "Fellow Traveler." :lol:

toneart - 7-17-2011 at 09:33 PM

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Originally posted by DENNIS
OK....PINKO. Is that better?
Maybe "Fellow Traveler." :lol:

Nah! I maintain a tan year 'round. :lol:

"Fellow Traveler"? You a traveler too? I'd like to time travel to a time not so dark; either backwards or forward. Are your bags packed too? :coolup: