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toyota tacoma double cab vs f150 supercrew

dizzyspots - 7-18-2011 at 06:05 PM

so...if you had a choice of either truck, both 4x4
both about same miles (130K) and about the same price
(the F150 is a loaded King Ranch) the Toyota DC is a TRD off road

most travel to baja is Mex 5 to Gonzaga...may try BOLA and San Ignacio again with occasional runs down into a cove or beach ...12" tin boat on top

thanks Mike

Terry28 - 7-18-2011 at 06:49 PM

Ford=====First On Race Day.......let the bashing begin.

fandango - 7-18-2011 at 06:55 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by dizzyspots

...12" tin boat on top

thanks Mike


is that boat a hood ornament?

fandango - 7-18-2011 at 06:57 PM

seriously,
how are you going to carry that boat on top?
i am interested in rigging my toyota to haul a 12' tinny on top with a winch to load and unload.

classicbajabronco - 7-18-2011 at 06:58 PM

They won't be the same price. The toyota will cost more, as they have a higher resale value.

You will get more truck for the money with a ford. I currently have three 97-03 f15o's, all with over 100k. I recently sold a 98 f150 with 200k. My favorite right now is my 2001 supercrew 2wd with a 5.4l and a 7.5" long travel prerunner suspension kit. I run 285/75/16 bfg km2's and run 90% offroad on washboard(eastcape). I live in baja fulltime and have run fords for 8 yrs. I also have a 4 runner with a 3.0l v6(5k on a new motor), but it gets damn near the same economy as the v8's, has no where near the power, space, payload or comfort as the fords.

mulegemichael - 7-18-2011 at 07:59 PM

i disagree with all of the above; TOYOTA all the way, no question, none.

BooJumMan - 7-18-2011 at 08:20 PM

Toyota >>>> Ford... No question, but i am biased.

Curt63 - 7-18-2011 at 08:38 PM

Hey Classic are you back under your previous name?

If all you're hauling is the tin boat and motor and other misc gear, the Toyota takes it hands down. Weight/ Fuel economy/ reliability/ size

FORD spells Fix Or Repair Daily

FORD backwards spells

Driver Returns On Foot

Honestly, both are good Baja rigs. I've been a Toyota guy for decades. I just bought 2 4Runners in the last 2 weeks. I just love em!

Cheers, Curt

dizzyspots - 7-18-2011 at 09:16 PM

easy 12' tin boat on top...on the fj cruiser...arb rack w/ yakima bars...put the nose on the back bar...push it forward till it tilts down..tie it down and go to Baja no winch...just lift and tilt..

TMW - 7-19-2011 at 07:35 AM

Personally I would go with the Toyota. In the long run less problems. If it has the 3.4 V6 it's much better than the 3.0 V6, I've had both. If it's a new model with the 4.0 V6 even better and the truck is bigger, more of a mid-size.

Let me add that my 04 with the 3.4 V6 gets 21-22 MPG hwy. and my 07 4.0 V6 work truck got the same. And that's staying with the fast boys down the hwy.

[Edited on 7-19-2011 by TW]

Desertbull - 7-19-2011 at 09:01 AM

I agree with TW, I vote Toyota for the long run.

Both can be built for a good ride on Baja dirt roads so that's not an issue, but the Toyota will go and go and go...and go.

or best yet is a 12 valve Cummins dodge 5-wire w/o a computer and that is the ticket...:biggrin:

Bajamatic - 7-19-2011 at 12:51 PM

Hey Bull what years did they make the 5-wire? And what does that mean?

David K - 7-19-2011 at 01:33 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by dizzyspots
so...if you had a choice of either truck, both 4x4
both about same miles (130K) and about the same price
(the F150 is a loaded King Ranch) the Toyota DC is a TRD off road

most travel to baja is Mex 5 to Gonzaga...may try BOLA and San Ignacio again with occasional runs down into a cove or beach ...12" tin boat on top

thanks Mike


Mike, they are different trucks... full size Ford vs. mid size Toyota. So, do you need a full size truck or will the Tacoma DC be enough for you?

If the smaller, shortbed truck with a 236 HP, 4.0 liter V-6 will meet your needs, then great!

The Tacoma 4WD Off Road TRD (2009 or later) has an amazing traction system if you are into off road exploring... called A-TRAC (Active Traction Control).

A-TRAC provides the traction very near what front and rear lockers provide, in 4WD- Lo... and it still has a rear locker, as well... In addition, the 4WD Toyotas all now have limited slip TRAC (Traction Control) on the front and rear in 4WD- Hi.

A-TRAC, the Rear Locker, and TRAC are all standard equpiment on the 4WD Off Road Tacoma.
I can't get mine stuck... and I have tried! :lol::light::cool:

dizzyspots - 7-19-2011 at 02:29 PM

David K...i am in middle of 4x4 withdrawal after we traded my wife's FJ Cruiser (with ALL those neat Toyota tools) for a MINI Clubman S (daily commuter and MPG's)..
1st trip to Gonzaga and San Ignacio in "08 was a bone stock FJ with highway tread Bridgestones...did 3 sisters and only used 4x4 once...never used 4 low...
so...I am familiar with the Toyota capabilities...not so with Ford...tough finding a 4x4 Taco..lots of pre runners...and although I can now do Gonzaga in 2wd...might like to hit some little coves and perhaps some of the missions...dont think prerunner and locker would make it???

Ken Cooke - 7-19-2011 at 02:54 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by dizzyspots
tough finding a 4x4 Taco..lots of pre runners...and although I can now do Gonzaga in 2wd...might like to hit some little coves and perhaps some of the missions...dont think prerunner and locker would make it???


Why is it hard to find a 4x4 Tacoma? Does this cause a run-up in prices for the TRD Tacomas?

If you had a 2WD with locker and flexible suspension, it would be a better go-fast vehicle on the dirt than going up this neat trail near Gonzaga Bay. For that, you really need a 4WD vehicle.

La Turquesa Canyon - connecting Gonzaga Bay with Hwy 1



rts551 - 7-19-2011 at 04:17 PM

http://tucson.craigslist.org/cto/2493055625.html
http://tucson.craigslist.org/cto/2499562006.html
http://tucson.craigslist.org/cto/2477474854.html
http://tucson.craigslist.org/cto/2481023119.html

etc

bajatravelergeorge - 7-19-2011 at 04:39 PM

Dizzyspots, it sounds like you will be doing mainly paved road traveling which makes the Ford the obvious choice. Anyone trying to tell you different is just has a bias to the Toyota.

MitchMan - 7-20-2011 at 10:20 AM

Toyoto Tacoma 4x4's hard to find? Let me tell you about my experience.

Last year in April/May I started looking for a 4x4 Toyota Tacoma 2.7L, extended cab or regular cab, 5 spd manual trans, 1995 to 2002 with low mileage, and I could take or leave extras like pwr this and pwr that. Low mileage for a used 95 to 99 is 130,000 miles. Scoured the internet and the entire country for a month. There were only a handfull available to meet the above-mentioned criterion at any given point in time with wildly varying prices and conditions. Most were closer to the Mississippi, I live in Southern California. I even went to every used car dealership in Orange County, CA.

Finally found two, one in Phoenix AZ and the other in Tacoma WA. Flew to Phoenix and that one turned out to be a beat up dog. Flew from Phoenix to Tacoma WA and that one was a gem with 128,500 miles with A/C, radio and not much else extra (not even the sliding rear window), reg cab, oversized tires, manual trans, bench seat. $6,500 USD as is. Needed some work, spent $1,700 on a variety of repairs to bring it up to perfection.

Couldn't be happier with the purchase. It's a beautiful burgundy red, sits up high, smells and feels just like a brand new vehicle in every way. No squeaks of any kind. Towed my boat and trailer to La Paz and it was flawless, never dropped below 32 mph on the open road going up any hill.

I call the truck "Mighty Mouse". If a man could ever love a vehicle, I love that truck. I Can't stop looking at it as I walk away from it in a grocery store parking lot.

Before the Tacoma, I had a 1984 S10 4x4 Blazer 2.8L V6 that finally died at 300,000 miles. Served me quite well, extremely reliable, and when I fixed it for something, it stayed fixed, unlike any of the Volvo's or other foreign vehicles I had had up to the purchase of the Taco.

Side point, in 1995 when I was looking for a used 4x4 that culminated in getting the 4x4 blazer just mentioned, I couldn't find any Blazers locally either. However, the Jeep dealerships were loaded, just loaded with 100s of used jeeps on their lots, most of them with 60,000 miles.

[Edited on 7-20-2011 by MitchMan]

[Edited on 7-20-2011 by MitchMan]

J.P. - 7-20-2011 at 10:32 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by MitchMan
Toyoto Tacoma 4x4's hard to find? Let me tell you about my experience.

Last year in April/May I started looking for a 4x4 Toyota Tacoma 4.7L, extended cab or regular cab, 5 spd manual trans, 1995 to 2002 with low mileage, and I could take or leave extras like pwr this and pwr that. Low mileage for a used 95 to 99 is 130,000 miles. Scoured the internet and the entire country for a month. There were only a handfull available to meet the above-mentioned criterion at any given point in time with wildly varying prices and conditions. Most were closer to the Mississippi, I live in Southern California. I even went to every used car dealership in Orange County, CA.

Finally found two, one in Phoenix AZ and the other in Tacoma WA. Flew to Phoenix and that one turned out to be a beat up dog. Flew from Phoenix to Tacoma WA and that one was a gem with 128,500 miles with A/C, radio and not much else extra (not even the sliding rear window), reg cab, oversized tires, manual trans, bench seat. $6,500 USD as is. Needed some work, spent $1,700 on a variety of repairs to bring it up to perfection.

Couldn't be happier with the purchase. It's a beautiful burgundy red, sits up high, smells and feels just like a brand new vehicle in every way. No squeaks of any kind. Towed my boat and trailer to La Paz and it was flawless, never dropped below 32 mph on the open road going up any hill.

I call the truck "Mighty Mouse". If a man could ever love a vehicle, I love that truck. I Can't stop looking at it as I walk away from it in a grocery store parking lot.

Before the Tacoma, I had a 1984 S10 4x4 Blazer 2.8L V6 that finally died at 300,000 miles. Served me quite well, extremely reliable, and when I fixed it for something, it stayed fixed, unlike any of the Volvo's or other foreign vehicles I had had up to the purchase of the Taco.

Side point, in 1995 when I was looking for a used 4x4 that culminated in getting the 4x4 blazer just mentioned, I couldn't find any Blazers locally either. However, the Jeep dealerships were loaded, just loaded with 100s of used jeeps on their lots, most of them with 60,000 miles.




Sounds like a nice truck,My story is almast the same only difference my truck is a Nissan, the little truck is short on comfort but long on endurance and the best part at the end of 5 years it will still be mine with having made o no payments. the last one i had I put 300 plus thou. miles and it was still running strong when I hit a patch of black ice and wrapped it around a pine tree.

tripledigitken - 7-20-2011 at 11:07 AM

Your V8 toy pu gets 32 mpg, really? I have never heard of mileage like that in any gas powered pu. That's one hell of a find.

Ken

[Edited on 7-20-2011 by tripledigitken]

MitchMan - 7-20-2011 at 11:28 AM

Wow, I made an error on my post. I meant to write 1998 2.7L, 4 cyl, 4x4 Toyota Tacoma, not a 4.7L V8. My mistake!

However, I reported "32 mph", not "mpg".

Any way, about mpg; when I drove the truck from Tacoma WA to Orange County, ca, I got 24 mpg. Now that the truck is in La Paz, I rarely get the truck in any higher gear than 4th gear, and mostly in 3rd gear. Tooling around La Paz, I get about 14 mpg. I probably should have gotten the more prevalently available 6 cyl Taco 4x4 as it probably would get the same gas mileage as I am now getting around town in La Paz at 14 mpg with my 4 cyl, 4x4.

[Edited on 7-20-2011 by MitchMan]

Check it out

bajaguy - 7-20-2011 at 11:29 AM

www.tacomaworld.com

tripledigitken - 7-20-2011 at 11:34 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by MitchMan
Wow, I made an error on my post. I meant to write 1998 2.7L, 4 cyl, 4x4 Toyota Tacoma, not a 4.7L V8. My mistake!

However, I reported "32 mph", not "mpg".


my bad on the mph/mpg mixup

Curt63 - 7-20-2011 at 11:46 AM

get the reading glasses Ken

tripledigitken - 7-20-2011 at 11:50 AM

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Originally posted by Curt63
get the reading glasses Ken



Glasses are good, just needed my 2nd cup of coffee.

dizzyspots - 7-20-2011 at 01:49 PM

rts551

thanks for those links...looking for a double cab..grandkids and other Baja co-pilots you know...
have appt to see the 2002...little leery of the 184k miles...any thoughts?

the 2006 is spoken for ...sort of...no $$ but a promise of Friday..will see it today, and well the 2008 is out of my price range...looking at about $17k tops...

bajatravelergeorge...

as for mostly pavement...no...did my 1st 3 trips to Baja befoer the new road...most of the trails and rocks of southern AZ and the 12,000 ft trails above Ouray...no problem with the pre-runners....just like the "better to have it and not need it, than need it and not have it" of 4x4

Thanks for the input folks Mike

[Edited on 7-20-2011 by dizzyspots]

rts551 - 7-20-2011 at 03:10 PM

lots of others. more Toyotas than Fords but both are worth a look at on craigslist. patience...you can find a good vehicle of either for under 17k.

here is a ford in your range and on the East side closer to you.
http://tucson.craigslist.org/cto/2502763103.html
Quote:
Originally posted by dizzyspots
rts551

thanks for those links...looking for a double cab..grandkids and other Baja co-pilots you know...
have appt to see the 2002...little leery of the 184k miles...any thoughts?

the 2006 is spoken for ...sort of...no $$ but a promise of Friday..will see it today, and well the 2008 is out of my price range...looking at about $17k tops...

bajatravelergeorge...

as for mostly pavement...no...did my 1st 3 trips to Baja befoer the new road...most of the trails and rocks of southern AZ and the 12,000 ft trails above Ouray...no problem with the pre-runners....just like the "better to have it and not need it, than need it and not have it" of 4x4

Thanks for the input folks Mike

[Edited on 7-20-2011 by dizzyspots]


[Edited on 7-20-2011 by rts551]

[Edited on 7-20-2011 by rts551]

dizzyspots - 7-20-2011 at 05:10 PM

missed that one by hours...headed out as we speak to look at its red sister near Tanque Verde....soo are you here or there?

dizzyspots - 7-20-2011 at 07:14 PM

nice entry level f150 4x4 81K...355 limited slip clean recent rubber probably $15K

dizzyspots - 7-21-2011 at 06:48 AM

1st gen tacoma...way too tight for my "frame" ...especially 9 hr ride from Vail to GB...either Tundra or F150 will get the nod...we'll see

David K - 7-21-2011 at 09:37 AM

The 2nd gen. Tacoma began with the 2005 model... bigger, about the same size as the orig. Tundra.

dizzyspots - 7-21-2011 at 01:52 PM

next potential candidate.. ( yeah , I know..I'd been done by now except for folks descirption of what they think is a really "clean" truck.....)

anyway...04 Tundra double cab 4x4 TRD off road...109K with a dealer printout of ALL sheduled maintenance and repairs...one owner...cosmetically challenged: bad clear coat and the current owner is pretty messy inside(read:
slob)...
loaded and priced below Kelly about $10K
waiting for his CFO (wife) to agree on price (he's got his eye on another truck)

rts551 - 7-21-2011 at 01:59 PM

what kind of mileage do Tundra's get?

Curt63 - 7-21-2011 at 01:59 PM

Hey Diz

I have that exact truck, but 2 concerns:

12 MPG sucks

The 4.7 I-force is not strong enough for heavy towing

Otherwise, a great medium weight truck and fast!

dizzyspots - 7-21-2011 at 02:41 PM

TWELVE???? just goin down the road...no cargo, towing, etc??

bajaguy - 7-21-2011 at 03:55 PM

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Originally posted by dizzyspots
TWELVE???? just goin down the road...no cargo, towing, etc??





My 2006 Taco DC 4x4 6 cyl gets 21 1/2 to 23 on the highway

David K - 7-21-2011 at 04:11 PM

Both my 2005 and 2010 DC 4X4 V6 rarely got over 19 mpg on the highway (17-18.5 is typical). Around town only I get 16-17 mpg.

Of course, this is in Southern California where they think adding corn to gasoline is good, so our fuel isn't as efficient... so we burn more!??

I wish I got what BajaGuy gets as we have the same truck!

The two times I got 19. (point) something MPG was using Pemex fuel!

bajaguy - 7-21-2011 at 04:58 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by David K
Both my 2005 and 2010 DC 4X4 V6 rarely got over 19 mpg on the highway (17-18.5 is typical). Around town only I get 16-17 mpg.

Of course, this is in Southern California where they think adding corn to gasoline is good, so our fuel isn't as efficient... so we burn more!??

I wish I got what BajaGuy gets as we have the same truck!

The two times I got 19. (point) something MPG was using Pemex fuel!





DK, that mileage was on a trip from Carson City, NV to Chatsworth, CA.....over Hwy 50 (Lake Tahoe) and down Hwy 99, plus local in-town driving around. Used cruise control and 75MPH and below (also air conditioning)..........really surprised me!!!

Just got my 90K service/tune-up and headed to Ensenada Monday, direct down US 395/I-15. Will check mileage.

rts551 - 7-21-2011 at 05:10 PM

Dizzyspots is talking about a Tundra guys.

bajaguy - 7-21-2011 at 05:14 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by rts551
Dizzyspots is talking about a Tundra guys.





sorry.....I hear from a friend who has a Tundra (nice rig) that his mileage sucks, and pulling a load it's even worse. In fact, my 2011 Dodge Ram 2500 diesel pulling a fully loaded travel trailer gets better mileage than his Tundra....with no load!!

The 2nd Gen Tacos are a very nice ride......

drarroyo - 7-21-2011 at 07:29 PM

Toyota trucks took a half step backwards mid 2000's, when they bumped the Tacoma to Tundra size (and Chevy-truck style! ... ick) and bumped the Tundra even larger. Tundra gas mileage is deplorable.
My 2000 taco gets 21-22 'round town. I do drive rather conservatively. Not slowly ... just smartly :lol: And great mileage on those straightaways of BCS!

Roberto - 7-21-2011 at 08:23 PM

David, you are incorrect. Maybe you should make sure you know the subject at hand before so forcefully presenting your "opinions" (I'm trying to be nice here).

There is NO requirement for Ethanol on California Reformulated Gasoline.

http://www.arb.ca.gov/fuels/gasoline/faq.htm

Any ethanol added is added by the refiners in order to meet requirements for oxygenate in an effort to reduce emissions. They choose ethanol instead of other oxygenates because of Federal incentives for Ethanol use.


[Edited on 7-22-2011 by Roberto]

dizzyspots - 7-22-2011 at 06:44 AM

reports from friends here are about 17mpg....our FJ Cruiser got 17 mpg w/ me driving and 21 with Sharon driving..current Dodge 4.7 crew 2wd gets 18-20
she uses a MINI Clubman S as her new daily driver...me...Goldwing 1500

so truck is for: ...honey do's , house stuff and BAJA...means being able to throw 12ft tinnie on top and gear in the back and room to take friends, grandkids(maybe)

not sure there is anything out there that will haul, go off road, comfort for long highway drive and get GREAT mileage...diesel was a thought untill it was .50-.60 hihger than unleaded
06 tacos are near $20K here

TMW - 7-22-2011 at 10:19 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Roberto
David, you are incorrect. Maybe you should make sure you know the subject at hand before so forcefully presenting your "opinions" (I'm trying to be nice here).

There is NO requirement for Ethanol on California Reformulated Gasoline.

http://www.arb.ca.gov/fuels/gasoline/faq.htm

Any ethanol added is added by the refiners in order to meet requirements for oxygenate in an effort to reduce emissions. They choose ethanol instead of other oxygenates because of Federal incentives for Ethanol use.


[Edited on 7-22-2011 by Roberto]


Technically that's true. They can use other oxygenates if they meet the CA standards. The use of ethanol is the least costly way to meet the standards. The list of banned additives is given and no alternative to ethanol is listed except to say others can be used if they meet the CA standard.

motoged - 7-22-2011 at 01:54 PM

So, the question is about Taco vs Ford....just because I don't know and am beginning to shop....what about Taco vs Sierra/Silverado 4X4....

Mostly paved and gravel roads and not heavy towing....Baja every second year and no rock crawling.

Where does General Motors fit in this conversation?

TMW - 7-22-2011 at 02:17 PM

It depends on what your need really are. Some people prefer a full size truck. I have a 2004 GMC Z71 I purchased new. First three years it was at the dealer every six months for one thing or another, I got the extended warranty and had two fuel pumps replaced under it. After warranty ended both heads had a leak not under factory recall. I'm out $3000. I love the feel when driving it but frankly I don't think I would buy another GM vehicle. I also had a 91 chevy 4x4 I bought new and had issues with it including a new tranny. Again everything under warranty. I bought a 2004 Tacoma 4x4 V6 last Dec. with 66000 miles on it. I've just about set it up to my way. Love it. I had a 2007 Tacoma 4x4 V6 work truck before I retired. It now has 50,000+ miles and has never been to the dealer for repairs, just oil and tires. Both the 04 and 07 Tacomas get 21-22 mpg on the hwy unloaded. My GMC 17 mpg hwy.

If I were to get a full size truck it would be a Ford. Mid or small size a Toyota can't be beat. Nissan may be good too.

I would add a Tundra to my list too. My son bought one in Jan. A 4x4 crewcab style.

[Edited on 7-23-2011 by TW]

dizzyspots - 7-22-2011 at 02:36 PM

decision made...2004 Tundra SR5 double cab 4x4...low miles, clean...may need to swap out rubber prior to October trip, then throw the 12ft tinnie on the rack and head to Gonzaha

Thanks for all the insight and suggestions BN rocks

Mike & SHaron

woody with a view - 7-22-2011 at 02:48 PM

keep the maintenance up on your yota and it will run forever, or at least 3-4 times longer than american crap of the same vintage.

rts551 - 7-22-2011 at 02:52 PM

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Originally posted by woody with a view
keep the maintenance up on your yota and it will run forever, or at least 3-4 times longer than american crap of the same vintage.



You mean the crap like my 2002 f250, 207,000 miles and never needed a repair other than normal maintenance?

oops forgot. CPS replaced under recall.


Don't even ask how many times to Baja. I live here more than in Arizona

[Edited on 7-22-2011 by rts551]

dizzyspots - 7-22-2011 at 03:02 PM

rts551...when are you headed back...dental trip go OK?

rts551 - 7-22-2011 at 03:05 PM

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Originally posted by dizzyspots
rts551...when are you headed back...dental trip go OK?


done... ready now. waiting for our mechanic in Ensenada to say the quad is ready. Race in San Ignacio on the 31st, Asuncion mid August, San Felipe 24 August and the Loreto 400 10 September.

dizzyspots - 7-22-2011 at 11:46 PM

good luck and have a great time...keep the shiny side up

David K - 7-23-2011 at 03:19 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Roberto
David, you are incorrect. Maybe you should make sure you know the subject at hand before so forcefully presenting your "opinions" (I'm trying to be nice here).

There is NO requirement for Ethanol on California Reformulated Gasoline.

http://www.arb.ca.gov/fuels/gasoline/faq.htm

Any ethanol added is added by the refiners in order to meet requirements for oxygenate in an effort to reduce emissions. They choose ethanol instead of other oxygenates because of Federal incentives for Ethanol use.


[Edited on 7-22-2011 by Roberto]


If you find where I said it was REQUIRED, then please quote me... I said 'they' meaning 'enviro-wackos'.

ARCO and COSTCO gas (the two cheapest multi-location gas brands I see in SoCal) both contain 10% Ethynol and when I use them, my mileage drops one to two MPG! This has really been noticed in the past few months, as I used to get gas from Costco or Arco frequently... but no more.

David K - 7-23-2011 at 03:21 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by motoged
So, the question is about Taco vs Ford....just because I don't know and am beginning to shop....what about Taco vs Sierra/Silverado 4X4....

Mostly paved and gravel roads and not heavy towing....Baja every second year and no rock crawling.

Where does General Motors fit in this conversation?


At the bottom... :lol:

David K - 7-23-2011 at 03:23 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by dizzyspots
decision made...2004 Tundra SR5 double cab 4x4...low miles, clean...may need to swap out rubber prior to October trip, then throw the 12ft tinnie on the rack and head to Gonzaha

Thanks for all the insight and suggestions BN rocks

Mike & SHaron


Best of luck!

motoged - 7-23-2011 at 10:02 AM

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Originally posted by David K
Quote:
Originally posted by motoged
....Where does General Motors fit in this conversation?


At the bottom... :lol:


Well, I knew someone would throw a rock at my head :lol:

I like the cab roominess size of the full-size trucks and the quality of the Taco Truck....what a dilemma :?:

TMW - 7-23-2011 at 10:25 AM

I think the Tundras built before the Texas plant opened were pretty good. I understand the first year or two of the Texas plant Tundras had a rust issue or maybe a frame issue. But I think they got that worked out. I'd be careful with any Tundra between 07-10 built in Texas. My son purchased a new Tundra in Jan. A 4x4 crewcab so I'm waiting to see how it is working out. I don't think the gas milage is any better than any other full size truck. Probably 17-18 on the hwy at best.

J.P. - 7-23-2011 at 10:41 AM

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Originally posted by motoged
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Originally posted by David K
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Originally posted by motoged
....Where does General Motors fit in this conversation?


At the bottom... :lol:


Well, I knew someone would throw a rock at my head :lol:

I like the cab roominess size of the full-size trucks and the quality of the Taco Truck....what a dilemma :?:


Then show some class and buy a chevrolet

David K - 7-23-2011 at 01:21 PM

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Originally posted by motoged
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Originally posted by David K
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Originally posted by motoged
....Where does General Motors fit in this conversation?


At the bottom... :lol:


Well, I knew someone would throw a rock at my head :lol:

I like the cab roominess size of the full-size trucks and the quality of the Taco Truck....what a dilemma :?:



Ged, no rocks thrown at my Canadian friends... You asked where does GM fit in this 'quality' truck conversation... an opinion, right?

Based on my thoughts after hearing from so many here on Nomad... for FULL SIZE pickups...

Ford and Dodge tie for #1

The 2nd Generation Toyota Tundra (2008+?) #2

Nissan Titan and Chevy/ GM tie for #3 (Although I would get the Nissan over any GM product, any day.)

motoged - 7-23-2011 at 02:35 PM

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Originally posted by David K
Ged, no rocks thrown at my Canadian friends...


All taken in jest, David. No worries;)

These are the opinions I am asking for....muchas gracias, amigo.:saint:

woody with a view - 7-23-2011 at 02:40 PM

find a 2006 tundra with low miles. pay thru the ears for it and go past all of the other gas powered trucks on the road for the next 15 years, trouble free.

dizzyspots - 7-25-2011 at 10:11 AM

found a CLEAN 04 Tundra 4wd with LSD ready to throw my tinnie on top and head south....

choyero - 7-25-2011 at 11:15 AM

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Originally posted by dizzyspots
found a CLEAN 04 Tundra 4wd with LSD ready to throw my tinnie on top and head south....


You found a tundra with LSD?

trippy.

David K - 7-25-2011 at 11:25 AM

Yah, interesting...

I am not well versed on the Tundra traction systems as I am with the Tacomas... In 2004, the only traction aid (beyond 4WD) the Tacoma had was a locking differential (only on the Off Road TRDs).

The Tacoma Sport TRD had a mechanical limited slip from 2005 to 2008.

All Tacomas from 2009 on have TRAC (a limited slip that uses the brakes to slow slipping tires).

The Tacoma Off Road TRD has had the locking rear differential for a dozen years... and since 2009 has had A-TRAC (an automatic locker-like system on the front and back ).

motoged - 7-25-2011 at 02:29 PM

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Originally posted by choyero
Quote:
Originally posted by dizzyspots
found a CLEAN 04 Tundra 4wd with LSD ready to throw my tinnie on top and head south....


You found a tundra with LSD?
trippy.


Thanks for the tip.... however, I gave up driving while under the influence of hallucinogens years ago after the mushrooms had me convinced lava was flowing across the highway.

All this advice and friends have me thinking full-size truck....I have 325,000 kms on a '93 2WD Sierra 350...only repairs have been fuel pumps, intake manifold crack at 300,000 km, and an alternator.....

so I have the 15 years that Woody suggested and it cost me $19,000 in '94.

Think I will look for a good used GMC/Chevy 6 speed...regular cab w/ long box 4WD.....and borrow David's Taco when I want to top the whoops in the desert ;D





Yes, David....that IS a gift from you stuck on the tailgate...:tumble: