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Driving in Baja: 57% of drivers tested drink and drive

Woooosh - 10-2-2011 at 04:28 PM

http://www.frontera.info/EdicionEnLinea/Notas/Policiaca/0210...

Of the 900 tests carried out to motorists breathalyzer between 1 August and the third week of September, showed 57% positive to alcohol, 112 of them above the legal limit for driving .

According to figures from the Department of Municipal Health Services, when subjected to review at checkpoints implemented by the Municipal Public Security Ministry, the results showed that while 400 people tested positive for alcohol consumption had a lower concentration of 0.08 milligrams per 100 milliliters of blood. Techalott Sergio Lopez, head of the Department of Public Safety Support of the Municipal Health Department, said that having this amount of alcohol in the blood is still not prevent the driving of a motor vehicle , but people were advised to preferably not handled. However, another 112 were to drunk drivers, to have more than 0.08 milligrams of alcohol per 100 milliliters of blood; amount that prevents driving a motor vehicle According to the physician. Techalott Lopez stressed that it is important that people are aware of the concept of intoxication, it is not the same as driving from mainstream society that established by the authorities. He said that the state of drunkenness, not necessarily the person has to be almost shot, but what the law is set from 0.08 milligrams of alcohol per 100 milliliters of blood, it could even reach up to 3 beers to drink, but depends on the body people. He explained with this amount of alcohol in the blood, people are beginning to have vision difficulties, as it makes have perceive the object in view at a distance wrong, have slowed thinking, and trying to make a maneuver to avoid the accident have a delayed response by 10%. In general pointed out that alcohol produces a depression in the central nervous system, causing psychomotor-coordination of movements, such as sensory perception, sight and be distorted ears, plus it has effects on behavior and the behavior of those who ingest it.

80% are men about 80% of people testing positive in the tests are men, although males have a better able to metabolize alcohol than women. delved in the gastric mucosa, the activity of the enzyme that breaks down alcohol is lower in women than in men, ie in the case of men this enzyme destroys something alcohol, while in women it does to a lesser extent, in explaining why women achieve higher levels of blood alcohol than men when they eat the same amounts of alcohol, and hence the reputation of the men tolerate alcohol better than women. deadly white balance The Head of Department of Public Safety Support of the Municipal Department of Health, said that while not yet have a comprehensive study on how much related deaths have decreased the intake alcohol during the time it takes the campaign, said at least 1, 2 and 3 September there were no deaths because of this.

He added that in just three days 220 certifications were performed where 42 people for violations driving with alcohol levels in the blood are not allowed. Techalott Lopez said that the implementation of breathalyzers due to the increase in deaths related to alcohol. Nationally in 2010 there were over 24 000 deaths in road accidents in which the 40% is related to the intake of alcohol, while 679 people were killed in Tijuana because of this. To tell the specialist, the figure in the locality may be much higher because they do not get timely records of such cases. With these figures, it was established that this was a public health problem in all municipalities of the country was determined to integrate a municipal committee to promote accident prevention and strategies to avoid accidents.

Marc - 10-2-2011 at 05:50 PM

What is your point??

805gregg - 10-2-2011 at 06:11 PM

I was at a restaurant on the water NE of La Paz heading toward Tecolote, there were 9 gas tanker trucks in the parking lot, all were inside drinking Pacificos at 9:30 in the morning, about 1/2 mile from the gate to the tank farm. If you see a gas tanker truck near you watch out, that guy maybe drunk at the wheel.

Hook - 10-2-2011 at 06:16 PM

Finally, I am a member of a majority!!!

Well, occasionally............

Woooosh - 10-2-2011 at 06:23 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Marc
What is your point??

Cultural.

dtbushpilot - 10-2-2011 at 07:49 PM

I would imagine results would be similar NOB. How many of us will have 1 beer with lunch or dinner or 1 glass of wine? We would be counted as a positive test result while not being impared.

This isn't an attempt at MX bashing is it?:?::?::?:....dt

Woooosh - 10-2-2011 at 07:53 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by dtbushpilot
I would imagine results would be similar NOB. How many of us will have 1 beer with lunch or dinner or 1 glass of wine? We would be counted as a positive test result while not being impared.

This isn't an attempt at MX bashing is it?:?::?::?:....dt

It is a cultural observation to provoke a discussion. 57% of a country drives with alcohol in their system and that is not a problem? 8% are over the .08 (DUI), and 44% blow less less than .08 percent. Many countries have ZERO tolerance or you go to jail.

"Of the 900 breathalyzer tests administered between August 1 and the third week of September, 57% were positive for alcohol consumption, 112 of those were above the limits permitted to drive."



[Edited on 10-3-2011 by Woooosh]

Terry28 - 10-2-2011 at 07:54 PM

I'll drink to that............and most other things...

mcfez - 10-2-2011 at 08:15 PM

And what percentage is on drugs? :o

I'm just a bad driver...never mind the drunks!

Hook - 10-2-2011 at 08:16 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Hook
Finally, I am a member of a majority!!!

Well, occasionally............


Much less than 57% of the time I drive. So, maybe I am actually pulling the stats down...........:?:

J.P. - 10-2-2011 at 08:26 PM

Mexico has a lot of issues to work on before it tackels the problem of drinking and driving.
In the US they didnt do much about it until it became the cash cow it is today.
What would you do in Mexico to a offender Take his drivers liscens most dont have one. revoke his auto registeration, most dont have that either. cancel his auto insurance,HaHa put him in prison, they would have to let someone out first.

Like the old saying you cant threaten someone who doesnt give a shi--------.
Dont get me wrong i am aginst anyone drinking and driving but what you gonna dooooooooo.

Woooosh - 10-2-2011 at 08:27 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by mcfez
And what percentage is on drugs? :o

I'm just a bad driver...never mind the drunks!

Tweekers don't have the money to drive. But Los Marijuanos are probably a bigger percentage, but maybe they overlap more 44% that are the light drinkers? lol ;)

[Edited on 10-3-2011 by Woooosh]

Woooosh - 10-2-2011 at 08:30 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by J.P.
Mexico has a lot of issues to work on before it tackels the problem of drinking and driving.
In the US they didnt do much about it until it became the cash cow it is today.
What would you do in Mexico to a offender Take his drivers liscens most dont have one. revoke his auto registeration, most dont have that either. cancel his auto insurance,HaHa put him in prison, they would have to let someone out first.

Like the old saying you cant threaten someone who doesnt give a shi--------.
Dont get me wrong i am aginst anyone drinking and driving but what you gonna dooooooooo.

La Verdad. The truth. You nailed it. Cultural.


[Edited on 10-3-2011 by Woooosh]

J.P. - 10-2-2011 at 08:39 PM

We were in San Felipi and this cop rode up beside the car on a bycicle at a stop sign and asked the driver if he was drinking . He held the glass of water and ice out the window and the cop stuck his nose in it and rode off.
We still laugh about the incident today.:lol::lol:

Mengano - 10-2-2011 at 09:57 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by dtbushpilot
I would imagine results would be similar NOB.


Quote:
From The San Diego Reader
870 vehicles passed through the checkpoint controlled by police on Ingraham in Pacific Beach on Labor Day weekend, with 19 intoxicated driving arrests made.


Tijuana - 900 vehicles checked and 112 (12.4%) were DUI.
Pacific Beach (party central on Labor Day weekend) - 870 vehicles checked and 19 (2%) were DUI.

durrelllrobert - 10-3-2011 at 09:24 AM

I wasn't aware thate they are now using breathalizers in MX. The 0.08 limit is ony 100% accurate only by direct measurement (blood test). Because the breathalizer measurements are indirect estimations, they must always be calibrated for precision. Improper calibration is a frequent reason for discounting the analyzer results at trial (in the US anyway)..

Technical issues with the devices include sensitivity to ambient temperature as well as subject temperature; failure to properly account for variations in the human hematocrit (cell volume of blood) range; and false assumptions of the conversion factor used in converting lung air alcohol concentration to blood alcohol concentration.

Many alcohol breath analyzers assume a 2,100-to-1 conversion factor, but the ratio varies from person to person and within a person over time. All these factors can increase a BAC reading.

When, how and by whom are they calibrated in Baja?

Woooosh - 10-3-2011 at 09:37 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by durrelllrobert
When, how and by whom are they calibrated in Baja?

likely the same people who calibrate their radar guns...
:saint:

wessongroup - 10-3-2011 at 09:46 AM

Seems there is some "bleed over" to the north...

"Among 2008 DUI arrestees, Hispanics (45.5%) again constituted the largest racial/ethnic group, as they have each year since 1992 (with the exception of 1999). Hispanics continued to be arrested at a rate substantially higher than their estimated percentage of California’s adult population (32.8% in 2008). This is shown in Figure 3."

http://www.ots.ca.gov/pdf/Publications/DUI_2010_MIS_AR.pdf

Doesn't appear to be too far off....

And ya might wan't to be careful in the San Joaquin Valley in the evenings right after the pickers get "off" just saying....



[Edited on 10-3-2011 by wessongroup]

mtgoat666 - 10-3-2011 at 09:54 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by dtbushpilot
How many of us will have 1 beer with lunch or dinner or 1 glass of wine? We would be counted as a positive test result while not being impared.


i think you are foolish if you think you are not impaired by just 1 drink. you MIGHT pass a blood test, but does not mean you are not impaired.

CaboRon - 10-5-2011 at 05:23 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by durrelllrobert
I wasn't aware thate they are now using breathalizers in MX. The 0.08 limit is ony 100% accurate only by direct measurement (blood test). Because the breathalizer measurements are indirect estimations, they must always be calibrated for precision. Improper calibration is a frequent reason for discounting the analyzer results at trial (in the US anyway)..

Technical issues with the devices include sensitivity to ambient temperature as well as subject temperature; failure to properly account for variations in the human hematocrit (cell volume of blood) range; and false assumptions of the conversion factor used in converting lung air alcohol concentration to blood alcohol concentration.

Many alcohol breath analyzers assume a 2,100-to-1 conversion factor, but the ratio varies from person to person and within a person over time. All these factors can increase a BAC reading.

When, how and by whom are they calibrated in Baja?


Maintenance seldom shows itself in Mexico :lol:

Pompano - 10-5-2011 at 06:28 AM




A policeman stops a motorist and asks, "Excuse me, sir, have you been drinking? "

The motorist says, "Why --hic-- do I got an ugly girl next to me?"




A hip young man goes out and buys the best car available: a brand new Ferrari 550. It is also the most expensive car in the world, and it costs him $500,000. He takes it out for a spin and stops for a red light.

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So the old man pokes his head in the window and looks around. Then sitting
back on his moped, the old man says, "That's a pretty nice car, all right...but I'll stick with my moped!"

Just then the light changes so the guy decides to show the old man just what his car can do. He floors it, and within 30 seconds the speedometer reads 160 mph.

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He's feeling pretty good until he looks in his mirror and sees the old man gaining on him again. Astounded by the speed of this old guy he floors the gas pedal and takes the Ferrari all the way up to 320 mph. Not ten seconds later he sees the moped bearing down on him again. The Ferrari is flat out and there's nothing he can do.

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Skipjack Joe - 10-5-2011 at 07:10 AM

Thanks for the morning smile, Roger.

I can just picture you guys in that dukshack up there passing these jokes to one another.

805gregg - 10-6-2011 at 07:03 PM

Comming north from Percubu very early one sunday morning, about 5 am still dark, we see a single headlight comming at us, we pulled over to let it pass, it was a 1950-54 era Chevy pick-up with a driver and two guy's standing up in the bed, one with a flashlight, they looked pretty drunk to me.