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[*] posted on 10-2-2011 at 04:28 PM
Driving in Baja: 57% of drivers tested drink and drive


http://www.frontera.info/EdicionEnLinea/Notas/Policiaca/0210...

Of the 900 tests carried out to motorists breathalyzer between 1 August and the third week of September, showed 57% positive to alcohol, 112 of them above the legal limit for driving .

According to figures from the Department of Municipal Health Services, when subjected to review at checkpoints implemented by the Municipal Public Security Ministry, the results showed that while 400 people tested positive for alcohol consumption had a lower concentration of 0.08 milligrams per 100 milliliters of blood. Techalott Sergio Lopez, head of the Department of Public Safety Support of the Municipal Health Department, said that having this amount of alcohol in the blood is still not prevent the driving of a motor vehicle , but people were advised to preferably not handled. However, another 112 were to drunk drivers, to have more than 0.08 milligrams of alcohol per 100 milliliters of blood; amount that prevents driving a motor vehicle According to the physician. Techalott Lopez stressed that it is important that people are aware of the concept of intoxication, it is not the same as driving from mainstream society that established by the authorities. He said that the state of drunkenness, not necessarily the person has to be almost shot, but what the law is set from 0.08 milligrams of alcohol per 100 milliliters of blood, it could even reach up to 3 beers to drink, but depends on the body people. He explained with this amount of alcohol in the blood, people are beginning to have vision difficulties, as it makes have perceive the object in view at a distance wrong, have slowed thinking, and trying to make a maneuver to avoid the accident have a delayed response by 10%. In general pointed out that alcohol produces a depression in the central nervous system, causing psychomotor-coordination of movements, such as sensory perception, sight and be distorted ears, plus it has effects on behavior and the behavior of those who ingest it.

80% are men about 80% of people testing positive in the tests are men, although males have a better able to metabolize alcohol than women. delved in the gastric mucosa, the activity of the enzyme that breaks down alcohol is lower in women than in men, ie in the case of men this enzyme destroys something alcohol, while in women it does to a lesser extent, in explaining why women achieve higher levels of blood alcohol than men when they eat the same amounts of alcohol, and hence the reputation of the men tolerate alcohol better than women. deadly white balance The Head of Department of Public Safety Support of the Municipal Department of Health, said that while not yet have a comprehensive study on how much related deaths have decreased the intake alcohol during the time it takes the campaign, said at least 1, 2 and 3 September there were no deaths because of this.

He added that in just three days 220 certifications were performed where 42 people for violations driving with alcohol levels in the blood are not allowed. Techalott Lopez said that the implementation of breathalyzers due to the increase in deaths related to alcohol. Nationally in 2010 there were over 24 000 deaths in road accidents in which the 40% is related to the intake of alcohol, while 679 people were killed in Tijuana because of this. To tell the specialist, the figure in the locality may be much higher because they do not get timely records of such cases. With these figures, it was established that this was a public health problem in all municipalities of the country was determined to integrate a municipal committee to promote accident prevention and strategies to avoid accidents.




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[*] posted on 10-2-2011 at 05:50 PM


What is your point??
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[*] posted on 10-2-2011 at 06:11 PM


I was at a restaurant on the water NE of La Paz heading toward Tecolote, there were 9 gas tanker trucks in the parking lot, all were inside drinking Pacificos at 9:30 in the morning, about 1/2 mile from the gate to the tank farm. If you see a gas tanker truck near you watch out, that guy maybe drunk at the wheel.
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[*] posted on 10-2-2011 at 06:16 PM


Finally, I am a member of a majority!!!

Well, occasionally............
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[*] posted on 10-2-2011 at 06:23 PM


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What is your point??

Cultural.




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[*] posted on 10-2-2011 at 07:49 PM


I would imagine results would be similar NOB. How many of us will have 1 beer with lunch or dinner or 1 glass of wine? We would be counted as a positive test result while not being impared.

This isn't an attempt at MX bashing is it?:?::?::?:....dt




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[*] posted on 10-2-2011 at 07:53 PM


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I would imagine results would be similar NOB. How many of us will have 1 beer with lunch or dinner or 1 glass of wine? We would be counted as a positive test result while not being impared.

This isn't an attempt at MX bashing is it?:?::?::?:....dt

It is a cultural observation to provoke a discussion. 57% of a country drives with alcohol in their system and that is not a problem? 8% are over the .08 (DUI), and 44% blow less less than .08 percent. Many countries have ZERO tolerance or you go to jail.

"Of the 900 breathalyzer tests administered between August 1 and the third week of September, 57% were positive for alcohol consumption, 112 of those were above the limits permitted to drive."



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[*] posted on 10-2-2011 at 07:54 PM


I'll drink to that............and most other things...



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[*] posted on 10-2-2011 at 08:15 PM


And what percentage is on drugs? :o

I'm just a bad driver...never mind the drunks!




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[*] posted on 10-2-2011 at 08:16 PM


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Finally, I am a member of a majority!!!

Well, occasionally............


Much less than 57% of the time I drive. So, maybe I am actually pulling the stats down...........:?:
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[*] posted on 10-2-2011 at 08:26 PM


Mexico has a lot of issues to work on before it tackels the problem of drinking and driving.
In the US they didnt do much about it until it became the cash cow it is today.
What would you do in Mexico to a offender Take his drivers liscens most dont have one. revoke his auto registeration, most dont have that either. cancel his auto insurance,HaHa put him in prison, they would have to let someone out first.

Like the old saying you cant threaten someone who doesnt give a shi--------.
Dont get me wrong i am aginst anyone drinking and driving but what you gonna dooooooooo.
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[*] posted on 10-2-2011 at 08:27 PM


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And what percentage is on drugs? :o

I'm just a bad driver...never mind the drunks!

Tweekers don't have the money to drive. But Los Marijuanos are probably a bigger percentage, but maybe they overlap more 44% that are the light drinkers? lol ;)

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[*] posted on 10-2-2011 at 08:30 PM


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Mexico has a lot of issues to work on before it tackels the problem of drinking and driving.
In the US they didnt do much about it until it became the cash cow it is today.
What would you do in Mexico to a offender Take his drivers liscens most dont have one. revoke his auto registeration, most dont have that either. cancel his auto insurance,HaHa put him in prison, they would have to let someone out first.

Like the old saying you cant threaten someone who doesnt give a shi--------.
Dont get me wrong i am aginst anyone drinking and driving but what you gonna dooooooooo.

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[*] posted on 10-2-2011 at 08:39 PM


We were in San Felipi and this cop rode up beside the car on a bycicle at a stop sign and asked the driver if he was drinking . He held the glass of water and ice out the window and the cop stuck his nose in it and rode off.
We still laugh about the incident today.:lol::lol:
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[*] posted on 10-2-2011 at 09:57 PM


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I would imagine results would be similar NOB.


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From The San Diego Reader
870 vehicles passed through the checkpoint controlled by police on Ingraham in Pacific Beach on Labor Day weekend, with 19 intoxicated driving arrests made.


Tijuana - 900 vehicles checked and 112 (12.4%) were DUI.
Pacific Beach (party central on Labor Day weekend) - 870 vehicles checked and 19 (2%) were DUI.
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[*] posted on 10-3-2011 at 09:24 AM


I wasn't aware thate they are now using breathalizers in MX. The 0.08 limit is ony 100% accurate only by direct measurement (blood test). Because the breathalizer measurements are indirect estimations, they must always be calibrated for precision. Improper calibration is a frequent reason for discounting the analyzer results at trial (in the US anyway)..

Technical issues with the devices include sensitivity to ambient temperature as well as subject temperature; failure to properly account for variations in the human hematocrit (cell volume of blood) range; and false assumptions of the conversion factor used in converting lung air alcohol concentration to blood alcohol concentration.

Many alcohol breath analyzers assume a 2,100-to-1 conversion factor, but the ratio varies from person to person and within a person over time. All these factors can increase a BAC reading.

When, how and by whom are they calibrated in Baja?




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[*] posted on 10-3-2011 at 09:37 AM


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When, how and by whom are they calibrated in Baja?

likely the same people who calibrate their radar guns...
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[*] posted on 10-3-2011 at 09:46 AM


Seems there is some "bleed over" to the north...

"Among 2008 DUI arrestees, Hispanics (45.5%) again constituted the largest racial/ethnic group, as they have each year since 1992 (with the exception of 1999). Hispanics continued to be arrested at a rate substantially higher than their estimated percentage of California’s adult population (32.8% in 2008). This is shown in Figure 3."

http://www.ots.ca.gov/pdf/Publications/DUI_2010_MIS_AR.pdf

Doesn't appear to be too far off....

And ya might wan't to be careful in the San Joaquin Valley in the evenings right after the pickers get "off" just saying....



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[*] posted on 10-3-2011 at 09:54 AM


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How many of us will have 1 beer with lunch or dinner or 1 glass of wine? We would be counted as a positive test result while not being impared.


i think you are foolish if you think you are not impaired by just 1 drink. you MIGHT pass a blood test, but does not mean you are not impaired.
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[*] posted on 10-5-2011 at 05:23 AM


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I wasn't aware thate they are now using breathalizers in MX. The 0.08 limit is ony 100% accurate only by direct measurement (blood test). Because the breathalizer measurements are indirect estimations, they must always be calibrated for precision. Improper calibration is a frequent reason for discounting the analyzer results at trial (in the US anyway)..

Technical issues with the devices include sensitivity to ambient temperature as well as subject temperature; failure to properly account for variations in the human hematocrit (cell volume of blood) range; and false assumptions of the conversion factor used in converting lung air alcohol concentration to blood alcohol concentration.

Many alcohol breath analyzers assume a 2,100-to-1 conversion factor, but the ratio varies from person to person and within a person over time. All these factors can increase a BAC reading.

When, how and by whom are they calibrated in Baja?


Maintenance seldom shows itself in Mexico :lol:




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