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El Mano Negro and Spa Buenaventura

Pescador - 12-14-2011 at 06:26 AM

I am sure that all long time posters remember the great Turtle Bust and all the postings about El Mano Negro taking over the restaurant from Olivia as well as the hotel. Went by the other day on my way to La Paz and the Restaurant is busy and loaded with people but the hotel looks like a bomb went off in there. Guess El Mano Negro just wanted to raise hell with everyone but has moved on to greener and greater pastures. Time sure has a way of proving the "truth". Next time I will have to make sure to have the camera and take some time to stop and chat with Olivia.

Skipjack Joe - 12-14-2011 at 08:11 AM

I've been waiting for this post.

Accusations came freely but apologies, not so.

latina - 12-14-2011 at 08:58 AM

Well said. There are a handful of self-righteous and self-absorbed people who post with frequency on this site, pleasuring themselves by attacking the character and motivation of others, living in what I imagine to be a lonely prison of their own making....An apology is a foreign concept to people like this.

Thank God that in the end, it is not their petty comments and lies that matter to anyone other than themselves. Life has a way of weeding out the truth about people and the proof is in the way they continue to live and enjoy their lives, amongst their friends and family, without the heavy burden that wicked-tongued people carry around with them their entire lives.

"By swallowing evil words unsaid, no one has ever harmed his stomach." -Winston Churchill

David K - 12-14-2011 at 09:13 AM

I found Mark and Olivia very very nice people and would be always looking forward to drop in for a beer and burger there!

right on

captkw - 12-14-2011 at 09:25 AM

latina, you are a awsome writer/poet..thank's:cool:

tiotomasbcs - 12-14-2011 at 12:33 PM

Anyone in Mulege or elsewhere know if there was a settlement or is this still a pending legal matter? June of 2010 I camped at Reqqueson and visited the bar/Buenaventura a few times. Mark was enjoying some good fishing so I never brot up nasty issues. The homes nearby were not closed off but the Hotel looked abandoned?! Any news Tio

David K - 12-14-2011 at 02:45 PM

Playa Buenaventura in 2009...














Terry28 - 12-15-2011 at 11:35 AM

Let's not forget the five gringo homeowners who were evicted after being milked for back rent,legal fees and ejido bribes...then had their houses trashed. I know as I was one of them........

norte - 12-15-2011 at 05:51 PM

why were you legally evicted?

J.P. - 12-15-2011 at 06:01 PM

Mark and Olivia were some of the first People I met in Baja Sur. After all the smears aginst them the fact they are still there speaks volumes for them VIVA BAJA

[Edited on 12-16-2011 by J.P.]

chumlee57 - 12-15-2011 at 07:04 PM

Beautiful location, we used to go their in the late 90's when it was Georges Ole'. Kewl place for camping, they used to have little enclosed palapas, burgers were always premier, hopefully this place makes a comeback

capt. mike - 12-16-2011 at 06:11 AM

Chumlee - are you on Pawn Stars?

tiotomasbcs - 12-16-2011 at 07:14 AM

I hope Terry28 and others at least got their houses back?! Time to give them all our business and support. What happened to George's Ole? Awesome location as mentioned! Vaya, Marco y Olivia. ;) Tio

[Edited on 12-16-2011 by tiotomasbcs]

Pescador - 12-16-2011 at 07:27 AM

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Originally posted by Terry28
Let's not forget the five gringo homeowners who were evicted after being milked for back rent,legal fees and ejido bribes...then had their houses trashed. I know as I was one of them........


I am glad you posted as I always worried about the homeowners who were there but last week at least 3 of the houses looked really good and two were occupied.

I am really curious about whether this guy just moved on to greener pastures or what.

buenaventura

senorj3 - 12-16-2011 at 02:58 PM

Hola Amigos!!!! Long time reader of this forum, first time poster!!! My sisters family found buenaventura when mike george had one house built and resturant only. They fell in love with the place and got me hooked on it for many years to follow!! We vacationed there 9 years in a row with our young sons. When mike left and Olivia was on her own, Mark came by for a beer and fell in love with the place> He has been there through all the munoz crap!! Now it looks like he may have a shot at making it his and olivas place for real!!! I hope so.I will post more of our vacation stories later!

David K - 12-16-2011 at 03:07 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by senorj3
Hola Amigos!!!! Long time reader of this forum, first time poster!!! My sisters family found buenaventura when mike george had one house built and resturant only. They fell in love with the place and got me hooked on it for many years to follow!! We vacationed there 9 years in a row with our young sons. When mike left and Olivia was on her own, Mark came by for a beer and fell in love with the place> He has been there through all the munoz crap!! Now it looks like he may have a shot at making it his and olivas place for real!!! I hope so.I will post more of our vacation stories later!


That would be great... welcome to Nomad!

buenaventura

senorj3 - 12-16-2011 at 03:12 PM

David, this is your oceanside neighbor Jim Evans!!! I met you at playa frambes last year!! I have alot of imfo on buenaventura!!!

David K - 12-16-2011 at 03:32 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by senorj3
David, this is your oceanside neighbor Jim Evans!!! I met you at playa frambes last year!! I have alot of imfo on buenaventura!!!


Oh good! Glad to see you here... You have a lot to share and Nomad could use some fresh stories!

I am so happy for Mark and Olivia after the crap that the evil one put them through.

Merry Christmas! Come by sometime...

desertcpl - 12-16-2011 at 03:51 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by David K
Quote:
Originally posted by senorj3
David, this is your oceanside neighbor Jim Evans!!! I met you at playa frambes last year!! I have alot of imfo on buenaventura!!!


Oh good! Glad to see you here... You have a lot to share and Nomad could use some fresh stories!

I am so happy for Mark and Olivia after the crap that the evil one put them through.


I agree with you on this one DK

Terry28 - 12-18-2011 at 10:47 AM

Nope, no one got their house back...all evicted....I don't know who is occupying the homes now. In the past Munoz had some of his employees in one and that Jimmy guy from the past bar fight was in another...Mark and Oli have won 3 of the court cases against them so far...I was told Munoz and his folks just pulled up stakes and left....Maybe the prior owners of the hotel, who live in Italy, will get it back...it was purchased on the easy payment plan 6 years ago by Munoz and Corona.....

Sandlefoot - 12-18-2011 at 05:13 PM

My wife and I had lunch with Mark & Oliva today. They are doing well and expecting things to pick up!!! Here are some picture of the place today if I have done the posting correctly. We toured all the houses and Mark is staying in the one that is nothern most on the beach and all others are unoccupied. There was some workers, a while back, staying in one of the homes and all they did was remove all the windows from the home that is closest to the front and store them in one of the other places. The hotel is in shambles. It had a fire in it that took most of the interrior out.

Mark and Oliva where both very nice and looking forward to increased activity at the restraunant, and wanted everyone to know how much they appreciated the support!!!!







Pescador - 12-19-2011 at 08:00 AM

Great pics, and thanks a million for having a camera and posting. Truth usually has a great way of winning in the long run, so we can only hope that Munoz has decided to move on to greener pastures.

So, I guess we can assume that the homeowners had only a lease on the properties and lost their investment in the houses and such.

Terry28 - 12-19-2011 at 08:53 AM

Yes, thanks for the pictures and report. By the way the burned out building is not the hotel...That burnt building in the pictures is David Chaneys old house and the building that Munoz put his generator in..it burned some years back. The house Mark is in is, was, owned by Thad and Lora Jones... a really nice house..and yes, all the homes were on leased land...we still don't know who owned the land. when we first leased we thought it was Ejido land leased to Mike and Olivia, then Munoz shoed up and claimed everything....it all went downhill fast from there,.

senorj3 - 12-19-2011 at 01:23 PM

I never met Terry and Family, but knew Charlie and Clare you were owners of the house they bought! They now live in Borrego. Ted and Cheryl owned next to them and used to live in oceanside! Alex and Gaylene built the duplex next to hotel.They maybe only used one year or so after they built it. Big Stan lived in between them and passed away last year or so.The big house behind was built by Mike for Barry and Melissa, they never even finished or lived in it.Over by Marks and Olivias was a house Mike built and sold to Jim and Ermma from Carlsbad. Dave Cheney was living on Requeson when Mike brought him over and put him up in the place that burnt when Munoz brought that big yellow generator. Dave was a great Flamingo gutiar player and wind surfer!!! He passed away years ago and his ashes were spread out by the beach in catavina.I have many fond memeories of Playa Buenaventura, and have made many return trips by myself to see Olivia and Mark.We are also friends with Franca and Roberto and there son Marcos, you were a big part in the building of the hotel!!!My wife and I have traveled to Italy and stayed with them. I never thought that something as remote and beautiful as this place would end up like this!!!What ever happens i hope that it can return to the place that has brought many wonderful and awesome memories to me and my families.La Buena Vida