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If you are driving into Baja from Ca.....

mcfez - 1-2-2012 at 01:54 PM

Whoa! If you have young ones aboard while driving to Baja.....read this and save $500.00

SACRAMENTO (CBS13) – California drivers will have to follow a number of new traffic laws in 2012 that range from stricter DUI punishment laws to dictating new seating arrangements for older children.

The California Highway Patrol said motorists should be aware that changes to child safety laws passed by California lawmakers in 2011 require children under the age of eight and shorter than 4’9” to ride in a car seat or booster seat. The law also requires children to sit in the back seat unless there are no available safe seats.

Drivers caught breaking the booster seat law can face fines starting at $475.

more law's

captkw - 1-2-2012 at 02:05 PM

hola nomad's,,gotta ,,make shur those new kid's grow and be safe till they, make the ripe age of going off to a war !!,, new laws...let's start with term limet's and no lobbylist's,,,2 simple laws..will it ever happen ????? K&T... I just noticed,,starting at $475 holy,moly at that rate calif. wiil back in the black in no,time...:cool:

[Edited on 1-2-2012 by captkw]

DENNIS - 1-2-2012 at 02:09 PM

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Originally posted by mcfez
children under the age of eight and shorter than 4’9” to ride in a car seat or booster seat.



For some reason, I can't even picture this. That kid would be up in the head-liner.

woody with a view - 1-2-2012 at 03:16 PM

it's about where the seat belt crosses the rug rat's chest, or neck, or forehead.....

BornFisher - 1-2-2012 at 09:14 PM

I predict this is another "Nanny Party" law. How will they limit our freedoms next, thinking parents don`t know better? The laws (children in car seats) are strict in Maine and Washington but I think it`s weather related.
Desert Protection Act, MLPA`s, more legal theft of our money, can`t own a bar and let people smoke, things are hopeless and changeless! Which party is the "Nanny" party? You decide.

Kids Costing in Cal ?

MrBillM - 1-2-2012 at 09:28 PM

I've often (too often ?) said that "There's a lot to be said for Kids. Unfortunately, MOST of it's Bad".

The California Nannys have added another.

Thankfully, any Kids (Grandkids) we might have reason to have in the car or trucks are in Virginia, Kentucky or the Philippines so it's a problem for others.

Unfortunately, there are more than enough other Moonbeam Nanny-Laws that we do get to share in.

chumlee57 - 1-2-2012 at 09:58 PM

This tidal wave will soon wash out. Way toooo many no-it-alls telling us how to fart towards the north, or south, soon we'll need a permit to fart. There are already many laws regarding child saftey, and all are good and benifit children. This new law seems over the top, who knows, maybe some child saftey seat lobbyist has infiltrated Jerry Browns inner circle, shocking. The beauty of mexico is that stupitity is punished, kind of creates its own inteligence.....

Mengano - 1-2-2012 at 10:13 PM

However, thanks to the strong dentist and school bus lobby, California school buses are not required to have any seat belt or restraining system at all. In case of a sudden stop, the children will use the round metal bar atop the seat in front of them to stop their forward progress.

BornFisher - 1-2-2012 at 10:25 PM

And not only that............... I can just see the CHP guys pulling out their tape measures, then pulling out children to measure thier height, then sticking some poor slob with a $500 fine because their child was only 4' 8 1/2 " and sitting in some illegal seat situation!! Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh.................. the Nanny State!!

mcfez - 1-2-2012 at 10:59 PM

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Originally posted by Mengano
However, thanks to the strong dentist and school bus lobby, California school buses are not required to have any seat belt or restraining system at all. In case of a sudden stop, the children will use the round metal bar atop the seat in front of them to stop their forward progress.


Damn Mengano/Fulano.....this is really the first time I read something from you that .......was a great point. Add the fact that city busses are the same.....of which many school kids take.

goldhuntress - 1-2-2012 at 11:35 PM

I never knew dentists and school buses had such strong lobbyists, lol.
Seriously though it seems to me a seat belt modification attachment of some sort that would make the seat belt fit better would be another maybe better option.

[Edited on 1-3-2012 by goldhuntress]

durrelllrobert - 1-3-2012 at 11:00 AM

how the hell did all of us survive childhood before there were booster seats?

mtgoat666 - 1-3-2012 at 11:14 AM

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Originally posted by durrelllrobert
how the hell did all of us survive childhood before there were booster seats?


perhaps y'all were just lucky, eh?

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By Serena Gordon
HealthDay Reporter
Wednesday, January 21, 2009; 12:00 AM
WEDNESDAY, Jan. 21 (HealthDay News) -- Placing infants and small children in age-appropriate car safety seats significantly reduces the odds that they will die if they are in a motor vehicle accident, new research shows.

Babies reaped the most benefit from being placed in a car seat. Their odds of dying in a car crash dropped by three-quarters if they were in a safety restraint seat. But older children also saw significant benefits, with a mortality risk reduction of at least 60 percent.

"The findings from this study indicate that child restraints greatly reduce the risk of death among children 3 years and younger involved in severe traffic collisions," the authors of the study wrote.

"The higher effectiveness of safety seats among infants is likely due to their overall fragility," added study author Thomas Rice, a research epidemiologist at the Traffic Safety Center in the department of environmental sciences at the University of California, Berkeley.

Results of the study appear in the February issue of the American Journal of Public Health.

Car accidents are the leading cause of unintentional injury and death for children older than 1 year, according to background information in the study. More than 500 children younger than 3 died as a result of motor vehicle collisions in 2005, according to U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention statistics cited in the study.

Most states have laws requiring child safety seats in cars, and use of these devices is high for the youngest children. The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration estimated that 93 percent of babies younger than 1 year were placed in car safety seats in 2006, while 91 percent of 1- to 3-year-olds also rode in car seats, the study reported.

The study included data on child fatalities from motor vehicle collisions that occurred from 1996 to 2005. From a large initial sample of nearly 300,000 vehicles, the researchers chose 6,303 vehicles to study because of the availability of complete data on ages, positions of vehicle occupants and the type of restraints that were used (shoulder or lap seat belt, car seat, or none). They compared data from this group to a closely matched group of vehicles involved in nonfatal collisions.

The odds of a baby under 1 year of age dying in a car accident drop by 73 percent if the infant was riding in a baby car seat. For children between 1 and 2, the odds of dying in a collision went down by 76 percent if they were properly restrained. For 2 to 3 year olds, the odds of a fatality in a car crash dropped by about 60 percent if the toddler was in a car seat.

Safety seats were found to be most effective in preventing fatalities in rollover accidents, rural environments and accidents involving light trucks.

In the older age group -- children age 2 to 3 years old -- seat belts were almost as effective as car safety seats in preventing fatalities

sanquintinsince73 - 1-3-2012 at 11:22 AM

Seat belts, booster seats, but yet women are allowed to murder unborn children still in the womb.

durrelllrobert - 1-3-2012 at 11:45 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by mtgoat666
Quote:
Originally posted by durrelllrobert
how the hell did all of us survive childhood before there were booster seats?


perhaps y'all were just lucky, eh?


Car accidents are the leading cause of unintentional injury and death for children older than 1 year, according to background information in the study.
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When I was a kid MOST of the injuries were INTENTIONAL, at least in my house :lol::lol::lol:
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In the older age group -- children age 2 to 3 years old -- seat belts were almost as effective as car safety seats in preventing fatalities

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Seatbelts? Hell we didn't have them either!

watizname - 1-3-2012 at 04:09 PM

I remember STANDING in the front seat between my Dad driving, and Mom, sitting shotgun holding my baby brother, no seatbelts for anyone of us. Or standing on the "hump", in the backseat so I could see over the seat. Still here. Seat belts--OK, Little kids in car seats--Ok but this is stupid. My 18 year old grand-daughter would probably get us a ticket for being too short.

Bajalover - 1-4-2012 at 09:10 AM

Laws, laws,laws. Okay - what would happen if only one new law was passed ??

" every law passed is applied to Washinton, States, Cities, and all government officials as they are forced on the people "

I wonder how many useless new laws would be tabled then......
:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

ElCazadorAZ - 1-4-2012 at 09:25 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by captkw
hola nomad's,,gotta ,,make shur those new kid's grow and be safe till they, make the ripe age of going off to a war !!,, new laws...let's start with term limet's and no lobbylist's,,,


WELL PUT Sir. H

laws

captkw - 1-4-2012 at 09:40 AM

hola,nomads,,does anyone,,know why in the hell, dont school bus,s have seat belt's ??????? Keith & lil tasha:cool: