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Agua Verde and Timbabichi this April/May

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TMW - 1-15-2012 at 06:52 PM

When the NORRA 1000 comes about the end of April I plan to follow it either all the way or head off to Agua Verde after the Loreto stop and take the dirt road out to Ciudad Constitucion or near there then turn back east to Timbabichi and explore the area. Anyone wanting to hook up let me know and we can plan the trip.

Fernweh - 1-18-2012 at 10:10 PM

I have taken that dirt road out of Aqua Verde a few times now, and always looked at the other roads going east back to the sea.
Just read another post about a trip to Timbabichi, could be a plan for me to join up.
What's the NORRA 1000? Another offroad race?
I'm based in LA and would later continue to La Paz.

Karl

motoged - 1-19-2012 at 12:53 AM

Gentlemen,
I was considering that road southwest out of Agua Verde fpr last year's ride (motorcycle)....examined as best I could via Google Earth. It appeared that the first few miles heading south out of the start-point sand wash would be the difficult part.

Any comments about that section would be appreciated.

Fernweh - 1-19-2012 at 08:52 AM

It is a fairly steep ascent, tight turns and a bit washed out here and there.
Drove it last in November and we had no problems, rather love those uncommon roads.
I do not have much experience with a packed motorcycle......
Two years ago we took that road down into Aqua Verde towing an Adventure trailer, at night. Again no problems then.

Speed is the mother of all evil

BajaBlanca - 1-19-2012 at 09:33 AM

shari is in canada but i am pretty sure she went there not too long ago and posted some info ...

David K - 1-19-2012 at 12:17 PM

The NORRA event is a 3-4 day staged ralley and not a typical off road race. Both highway and dirt are used to get from Mexicali to Cabo (La Paz last year).

NORRA (National Off Road Racing Association) was the original creator of Baja off road racing with their 1967 'Mexican 1000'.

The Mexican governemnt thought they could do better and kicked NORRA out of Baja and the government with their new BSC (Baja Sports Committee) heald their first (and only) 'Baja 1000' in 1973. It was a disaster and money for the winners disappeared at the end in La Paz (but they did get a set of Samsonite luggage!).

No Baja 1000 was run in 1974 as their wasn't time for Mickey Thompson's new company 'SCORE' to host the big race. SCORE had its first Baja 1000 in 1975.

TMW - 1-19-2012 at 01:00 PM

Info on the race is at http://www.norra.com/

They race in the dirt and transfer on the pavement. For the race
Day 1 stops in LA Bay
Day 2 stops in Loreto
Day 3 stops in La Paz
Day 4 ends in San Jose del Cabo

I understand this year they will run the east side after CD Constitucion thru San Evaristo down to La Paz.

motoged - 1-19-2012 at 02:27 PM

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Originally posted by Fernweh
It is a fairly steep ascent, tight turns and a bit washed out here and there.
Drove it last in November and we had no problems, rather love those uncommon roads.....
Two years ago we took that road down into Aqua Verde towing an Adventure trailer, at night. Again no problems then....

Fern,
Just to make sure we are talking about the same thing here: I am familiar with the gravel road into AV from the main highway just south of Loreto....no problem there.

I was asking about the road south out of AV that ends up twisting it's way on dirt to Ciudad Constitucion/Insurgentes...

Is that the one you referred to as "fairly steep ascent, tight turns and a bit washed out here and there."

Gracias

Fernweh - 1-19-2012 at 03:52 PM

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Originally posted by motoged

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Si senior,

the first two pictures are from that road.
Sorry, I did have one from the gnarly sections, probably kept both hands on the steering wheel.
The second picture is taking almost on top of the pass (coming from Constitucion) when you see Aqua Verde/ocean for the first time.
Third one is our favorite beach camping spot, next to the old palapa in front of the small island.

Fernweh - 1-19-2012 at 04:17 PM

Sunset over Aqua Verde, May 2009

Aqua Verde Indian Head, on my way to the secrete beach...

Aqua Verde Nov 2011, same camp spot but with easy German type dinner

elfbrewery - 2-5-2012 at 11:50 AM

That would make for a cool trip. Started wanting to do the AV - CC road last year when I found out it was indeed open.
What's in Timbabichi?

TMW - 2-6-2012 at 11:05 AM

Here are some post on it in 2009 with pictures.

http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=42597&pag...

BajaNomad - 2-6-2012 at 12:11 PM

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Originally posted by TW
Here are some post on it in 2009 with pictures.

http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=42597&pag...

Also..

http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=57503

Bajatripper - 2-6-2012 at 04:07 PM

We'll try our best to make it. Sounds like fun.

dtbushpilot - 2-6-2012 at 04:30 PM

I want to go. Are we camping or just driving through to somewhere else?

larryC - 2-6-2012 at 05:33 PM

Fernweh
I was there this last Nov. Stayed on your favorite beach where Fred and Nancy had their trailer and built the palapa. It is also my favorite spot. We were there in early Nov, had 2 really good days and then the wind came up and blew us out of there. Got 2 good days of diving and boating. Your secret spot looks like just to the north of where the road comes down to the water. I mean the Loreto road.
Larry

TMW - 2-6-2012 at 08:13 PM

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Originally posted by dtbushpilot
I want to go. Are we camping or just driving through to somewhere else?

I was planning on camping there at least overnight or maybe a second night and allow for some fishing and exploring around.

woody with a view - 2-6-2012 at 08:21 PM

here we go with secrets again! i thought that was frowned upon? :rolleyes:

Fernweh - 2-6-2012 at 08:47 PM

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Originally posted by larryC
Fernweh
I was there this last Nov. Stayed on your favorite beach where Fred and Nancy had their trailer and built the palapa. It is also my favorite spot. We were there in early Nov, had 2 really good days and then the wind came up and blew us out of there. Got 2 good days of diving and boating. Your secret spot looks like just to the north of where the road comes down to the water. I mean the Loreto road.
Larry

Larry,

you are right with the secret beach.
The palapa needs some attention, it's leaning quiet a bit. Might have to spool up some winch line.......

TW,

do you have a schedule already?
Camping out in AV and meeting there would be great.

Karl

TMW - 2-7-2012 at 04:33 PM

My plan was to follow the NORRA Mexican 1000 race to Loreto which is April 30th and then head to Agua Verde and on to Timbabichi or continue to follow the race to CD Constitucion and go to Timbabichi and back to Auga Verde off road. But no specific plan. I am open to suggestions if we can get a group together to go.

Fernweh - 2-7-2012 at 06:50 PM

I have to donate some ranch work at the Tres Virgenes area first - later part of April.
Then I could meet up in Loreto on the 30th, or already be camping at the beach in Aqua Verde by the palapa.
Stay for the night (or more), climb out the next morning and drive to Timbabichi for another camp out. My final destination is La Paz via the east coast or Hwy 1 route.

Who likes to join and what are your plans/suggestions?

Karl

TMW - 2-7-2012 at 07:18 PM

That would work for me.

Bajatripper - 2-7-2012 at 07:30 PM

At this point, works for us.

XRPhlang - 2-8-2012 at 03:11 PM

I wanna go.

TMW - 2-8-2012 at 05:22 PM

Phil how you doin? This should be an exciting trip to places we've never been to. I'll probably stop by Mexicali on Sat. April 28th for the NORRA Tech and contingency. Then head south to San Felipe and on to Cocos to watch the race go by on Sunday the 29th. Then head south to Loreto or Agua Verde to meet up. Nothing firm yet until we all agree when and where to meet as we get closer.

XRPhlang - 2-10-2012 at 04:31 PM

I'm ready already. I'll hold a week open between 28th and Cinco de Mayo. Maybe I'll bring my bike and do side trips from Aqua Verde. What about a trip out to mission Delores?

dtbushpilot - 2-10-2012 at 05:29 PM

Tom and Phil, looking forward to seeing you both and comparing stories about what you guys did with your share of the padre gold from the "lost mission" adventure. I'll bring a picture of the new boat I bought.....sweeeet..... :bounce:

David K - 2-10-2012 at 10:19 PM

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Originally posted by XRPhlang
I'm ready already. I'll hold a week open between 28th and Cinco de Mayo. Maybe I'll bring my bike and do side trips from Aqua Verde. What about a trip out to mission Delores?

Wow, 10 months we have missed you here!!! Not since the Santa Isabel search in El Vocan... Hi XR!! :bounce:

Did you think you could get out of writing a trip report (as DT has so far, too)??

Seriously, glad to see you alive and kicking amigo... and it is LOS DOLORES mission :cool:

Hook - 2-11-2012 at 01:00 AM

Well, that should keep him away for another 10 months, David...........

XRPhlang - 2-11-2012 at 07:39 AM

Sorry about not writing a trip report. With all that gold we found, I figured it better to lay low for a while.

DT- I can haul your bike then you can drive your boat down to Aqua Verde. :light:

DK- Don't listen to them. You're one of the reasons I like Baja Nomad. How 'bout some Los Dolores info.

TMW - 2-11-2012 at 10:24 AM

There may be more gold to be found on the east coast of Baja Sur and we are the right group to find it.

motoged - 2-11-2012 at 11:25 AM

DT's new boat...

David isn't sure if he will bring the new boat....or his older one????

Older boat with private skipper:

Newer boat (more power and cargo capacity):

dtbushpilot - 2-11-2012 at 12:13 PM

:lol:

motoged - 2-11-2012 at 12:27 PM

:saint:

(Doing the Grand Canyon loop April 20 for a week...)

David K - 2-11-2012 at 07:33 PM

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Originally posted by XRPhlang
Sorry about not writing a trip report. With all that gold we found, I figured it better to lay low for a while.

DT- I can haul your bike then you can drive your boat down to Aqua Verde. :light:

DK- Don't listen to them. You're one of the reasons I like Baja Nomad. How 'bout some Los Dolores info.

Thanks for that... and sure... be happy to!

Mision Nuestra Señora de los Dolores Apate was founded in 1721 on the gulf coast between Loreto and La Paz when the mission at Ligui (closer to Loreto) was abandoned. Shortly after it was founded, the mission was moved a couple miles inland, in a canyon with good water supply. In 1741 the mission was moved over 15 miles southwest to a visita of Dolores named 'La Pasion'. Some authors have called La Pasion a separate mission, but it was still Los Dolores at its third and final location.

From my Baja Missions web page:

Originally established close to the gulf coast, Dolores was soon moved to this spot about 3 miles west. *In 1741, a third move was made to the Dolores visita of La Pasion in the region called Chilla (see below).

Los Dolores is often called 'Dolores del Sur' because the Jesuits planned for a future mission of 'Dolores del Norte' (see Santa Gertrudis).

Photo taken from the ridgetop west of the mission.
This mission and San Pedro Martir are the only two not accessed by an automobile road.

GPS: 25°03'19.0" 110°53'03.3"

Jack Swords photo c

Close up photo of Los Dolores Apate by Kevin Clough in 1998

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Nuestra Señora de los Dolores Chilla 1741-1768

The final move for the mission of Los Dolores was over 15 miles to the southwest, in the region called Chilla by the Indians. This mission location was usually called 'La Pasion', the name of the visita that was here. Some books list a seperate mission of 'La Pasion' instead of this being the final location for Los Dolores. GPS: 24°53'14.4" 111°01'49.8"

Jack Swords photo c

In 1949, a Marquis McDonald photo:

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The road to the coast just south of Los Dolores passes right by La Pasion. Another Dolores visita the became a seperate mission is San Luis Gonzaga, not far from La Pasion.

Great stuff... enjoy your visit and take photos!

elfbrewery - 2-12-2012 at 05:22 PM

I just looked at a couple possible trails that go out to Timbabiche via Google Earth. It seems that just east of El Manglito (?), where Google Earth gives up on a road, you fall off the plateau. 40% grades?? Is this correct?

TMW - 2-13-2012 at 12:10 PM

On Google Earth I don't see El Manglito. On GE the place called Tiguana is called Tijuana on the almanac. Probably a misprint in the one or the other. Anyway I can follow the road all the way but there are some places along the wash that thr trail is not visible until you go further. I usuing a down loaded version of Google Earth not the on line version.

Skeet/Loreto - 2-13-2012 at 12:22 PM

TW. If you use the Top Rim Road down be very careful and do it with two Vehicles and lots of SnakeBite Kits.
Up on the Rim and down about 50 feet along that Rim is some of the Best Rattlesnakes. And they are Thick.

Have a good Trip!

Skeet

elfbrewery - 2-13-2012 at 01:43 PM

TW, with offline GE, are you able to flatten out your view so that you can look at the plateau from the east side and not just from overhead? You will see what I mean about the drop. I have to correct what I said before. I drew a path for each of two roads I could see coming over that area and the "slope" is over 40% (looking at vertical profile of the path). I'm not sure if GE means %slope or %grade, but slope can be measured in degrees. 40 degree slope is actual 84% grade. Nevertheless, it's twice as steep as the steep drive coming out of AV towards Constitucion.
I may be mistaken, but I believe I'm looking at the correct area.
Hope I'm wrong.

Fernweh - 2-13-2012 at 02:12 PM

The drive out of AV is not that steep at all, a few quiet tight turns but otherwise no problems using the high 4x4 gear.
We always can send the guy with the most schnake bit kits out first to check the grade.....
Does everybody knows the AV playa with the palapa?
The access off the main dirt road is easily missed, I shall get the coordinates posted if that nice beach/camping spot is accepted as out meeting point.

Karl

TMW - 2-13-2012 at 03:57 PM

Elf I think I see what you are talking about and yes it looks like a pretty good drop off in elevation. It also could be looking worse due to the way Google Earth process the data. There was quite a discussion about it back in April when we did the lost mission trip. When I moved down to see the El Volcan wash at ground level the sides of the wash were higher than the road out of the wash which was 20 or more feet higher in real life. I think El Beau explained what was happening.

Karl I think that is a good ideal.

dirtbikr - 2-13-2012 at 04:53 PM

Hey guys! I am a new member, your ride sounds fun, are you looking for another rider?

elfbrewery - 2-13-2012 at 05:59 PM

TW, thanks for the caution. Where can I find El Beau's explanation (I've tried searching El Beau)?
Cheers!

Fernweh - 2-13-2012 at 06:09 PM

I have attached a GE kmz file for the Palapa at Playa Bonita, Aqua Verde.

It would be a nice place to meet up with everybody. Let's wait and see who's interested and when we want to camp out there.

Any other suggestions?

Karl

Attachment: Palapa at Aqua Verde.kmz (725B)
This file has been downloaded 261 times

larryC - 2-14-2012 at 09:11 AM

Fernweh
I downloaded that kmz file and the marker on the file seems to be off by a few miles from where the palapa actually is. Your marker seems to be up a wash a few miles from the beach. I found the palapa at N25 31 25.85 and W111 06 08.47 . Maybe what I downloaded is not what you meant to show?
Larry

TMW - 2-14-2012 at 11:37 AM

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Originally posted by dirtbikr
Hey guys! I am a new member, your ride sounds fun, are you looking for another rider?

Everyone is welcome. DT and XRPhil will have bikes.

Fernweh - 2-14-2012 at 11:49 AM

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Originally posted by larryC
Fernweh
I downloaded that kmz file and the marker on the file seems to be off by a few miles from where the palapa actually is. Your marker seems to be up a wash a few miles from the beach. I found the palapa at N25 31 25.85 and W111 06 08.47 . Maybe what I downloaded is not what you meant to show?
Larry

Larry,

when I open that file it shows the beach with a yellow marker at the end of a short green path. Are you not seeing that?
Your coordinates are correct and so is the yellow marker.....
Not sure what happened to the file. Make sure when you download it and save it - the extension should read .kmz

Let me try and attach it again

Attachment: Palapa.kmz (725B)
This file has been downloaded 170 times

TMW - 2-14-2012 at 12:00 PM

There is a cross over road at 25-11-08x111-24-29 that joins the Timbabichi Rd at 25-08-44x111-23-06. It's a series of roads but the crossover appears to be about 2.5 +/- miles. Unless we need to get supplies in Constitucion we could take this.

I'm using hr-min-sec

[Edited on 2-14-2012 by TW]

TMW - 2-14-2012 at 12:16 PM

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Originally posted by elfbrewery
TW, thanks for the caution. Where can I find El Beau's explanation (I've tried searching El Beau)?
Cheers!

http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=51399&pag...

Go here and it's a little more than 1/2 way down the page. I make a comment about the wash being higher and a little further down Elbeau comments. I haven't re-read all the comments on it but I think others made comments too.

elfbrewery - 2-14-2012 at 01:14 PM

TW, got it. Many thanks. I'll try some of those settings Elbeau recommends and keep the quantity of exageration in mind. It's nice when someone understands these things...

larryC - 2-14-2012 at 04:38 PM

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Originally posted by Fernweh

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Fernweh
I am not opening and saving a file, I just double click on the link and my GE opens to a wash a few miles from the beach with a green marker that sort of resembles a hot air ballon. following that wash down towards the water it crosses the road to Av. Anyway it is probably something I am doing wrong. We are obviously talking about the same place. I might meet you guys there because I would like to drive the road from AV to CD Cons. It's nice that someone improved the road off the graded road down to the beach, it was pretty rough a few years ago. At least it was for my truck and cab over camper.
Larry
Larry

Fernweh - 2-14-2012 at 06:32 PM

Larry,

would be nice meeting up with you at the palapa. You know already where it's located.

Not sure why you have trouble with that .kmz file. The green marker you are referring to, in the wash, is the beginning of the ascent out of Aqua Verde towards Constitution.

See you at the beach

Karl

David K - 2-14-2012 at 06:46 PM

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Originally posted by Fernweh
Larry,

would be nice meeting up with you at the palapa. You know already where it's located.

Not sure why you have trouble with that .kmz file. The green marker you are referring to, in the wash, is the beginning of the ascent out of Aqua Verde towards Constitution.

See you at the beach

Karl

For anyone who hasn't opened the file, here is a zoom in to his marker at the foot of the grade:

Fernweh - 2-14-2012 at 07:03 PM

Thank you David K,

not sure what I'm doing wrong.

Please have a look at the attached Jpeg from GE - that's what I see when opening that kmz file.

Karl

fudscrud - 2-15-2012 at 03:54 PM

We rode down this grade to AV about 7yrs ago when it was under construction coming in from Constitucion. It was a complete rock/boulder garden. The workers were amazed that we could ride through it and were cheering us on, pretty funny.
If you are on that route, there is an alternate "loop" that parallels the main dirt road on the north that was really a great ride. If headed SW take the right fork at San Juan (on Baja Almanac) through Sta Rosa, La Tortala and then meets back up with the main dirt road near Los Cerritos.
Have fun

TMW - 3-6-2012 at 10:36 AM

Timbabichi June 2009

motoged - 3-6-2012 at 11:48 AM

When I download the file to GE, all I get is the waypoint in the sand wash at the beginning of the trail....but thanks for your pic.

Quote:

Originally posted by Fernweh
Thank you David K,
not sure what I'm doing wrong. Please have a look at the attached Jpeg from GE - that's what I see when opening that kmz file.
Karl

Fernweh - 3-6-2012 at 03:57 PM

I'm leaving for San Ignacio and the Tres Virgenes volcano on Friday morning, just to get some BCS air....and be back home by next week.

How many of us are going to be on this adventure?
Should we forward our info to TW via U2U to plan more in detail?

Karl

David K - 3-6-2012 at 04:01 PM

Are you doing the Guajademi road too?

BajaBlanca - 3-6-2012 at 06:35 PM

this sounds like a wonderful trip ... have fun y'all !!

Have FUN!

Mulegena - 3-6-2012 at 09:45 PM

Jealous... envious... and smiling big!

Bajatripper - 3-7-2012 at 01:03 AM

So, where are those leaders who will make this a "definite" and set the dates?

TMW - 3-7-2012 at 09:09 AM

After the SF250 race this weekend we can start working out he details. The NORRA race starts Sunday April 29th and I was planning on watching the first stage of racing, maybe more but break away when it got to loreto on Monday April 30th. Maybe in Agua Verde the night of the 30th. I'm open to adjustments.

David K - 3-7-2012 at 09:19 AM

There's a LOT of Baja Sur to see in the back-country there! I only wish it was closer/ or I had more time & money to explore it! Looking forward to our summer vacation to Baja Sur again, this July!

Bajatripper - 3-7-2012 at 10:30 AM

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Originally posted by David K
Looking forward to our summer vacation to Baja Sur again, this July!

Oh sure, you say that now. Let's see how you feel after going a couple of nights without A/C. :lol:

David K - 3-7-2012 at 12:22 PM

We did it before... and while Playa Frambes and Coco Cabañas had AC in our room, we did camp at Playa la Perla in the humid-heat!

http://vivabaja.com/709

We always go to Baja Sur in July... the water is warm then!

[Edited on 3-7-2012 by David K]

Fernweh - 3-7-2012 at 03:59 PM

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Originally posted by David K
Are you doing the Guajademi road too?

Maybe, as a "warm-up".......could meet some of the group in Mulege already and take this road as a detour to Loreto/Aqua Verde.

Anybody?

Karl

Don't miss the Guajademi road, but

Mulegena - 3-7-2012 at 05:30 PM

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Originally posted by Fernweh

Quote:

Originally posted by David K
Are you doing the Guajademi road too?

Maybe, as a "warm-up".......could meet some of the group in Mulege already and take this road as a detour to Loreto/Aqua Verde.

Anybody?

Karl

On your bike?
Having just done this route as a down-grade from the Purisima side in 4wd pickup,
I'd bet the South Switchback is a toughie taken as an up-grade from the Mulege side.
Might be easier on a bike, however.

Fernweh - 3-7-2012 at 05:55 PM

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Originally posted by Mulegena

Quote:

Originally posted by Fernweh

Quote:

Originally posted by David K
Are you doing the Guajademi road too?

Maybe, as a "warm-up".......could meet some of the group in Mulege already and take this road as a detour to Loreto/Aqua Verde.

Anybody?

Karl

No, sorry I do not do bikes anymore......

my Adventure Wagen is a capable 4x4. Do you think it is passable climbing up from Mulege?

Thanks for you info.

Karl

Mulegena - 3-7-2012 at 09:40 PM

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Originally posted by Fernweh

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Originally posted by Mulegena

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Originally posted by Fernweh

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Originally posted by David K
Are you doing the Guajademi road too?

Maybe, as a "warm-up".......could meet some of the group in Mulege already and take this road as a detour to Loreto/Aqua Verde.

Anybody?

Karl

No, sorry I do not do bikes anymore......

my Adventure Wagen is a capable 4x4. Do you think it is passable climbing up from Mulege?

Thanks for you info.

Karl

Can't tell ya' yea or nea, Karl.
Having driven down it using our granny gear, I'll just say that we felt our Chevy s10 not up to the ascent, and its a looong way to backtrack.
Why not do the route south from La Purisima north to Mulege after Agua Verde? Mulege's a great place to celebrate the end of a grand adventure.

Fernweh - 3-7-2012 at 11:53 PM

Thanks for the tip Mulagena,

but my final destination is El Centenario/La Paz - my future playground.....

I do know looong backtracks, and I sincerely hate them :yes:

Maybe I'll pre-run this ascent on Sunday, if I can get away from some ranch laboring. I will be just a couple hrs away from your town.

Karl

motoged - 3-8-2012 at 12:04 AM

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Originally posted by Fernweh
....Maybe I'll pre-run this ascent on Sunday....Karl

Karl,
Wanna see pics :biggrin:

Fernweh - 3-8-2012 at 12:55 AM

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Originally posted by motoged

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Originally posted by Fernweh
....Maybe I'll pre-run this ascent on Sunday....Karl

Karl,
Wanna see pics :biggrin:

Yes, please.....just saved some tracks on GE for use down there.

TMW - 3-8-2012 at 09:00 AM

I'm up to whatever route we take. I think I'll put a tranny cooler on before the trip. I had an AT over temp light come on doing some Death Valley canyons crawling along in 4x4 low.

dtbushpilot - 3-8-2012 at 10:34 AM

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Originally posted by TW
I'm up to whatever route we take. I think I'll put a tranny cooler on before the trip. I had an AT over temp light come on doing some Death Valley canyons crawling along in 4x4 low.

I'll be driving my FJ Cruiser instead of riding the bike, whatever route is fine with me, looking forward to it.......dt

David K - 3-8-2012 at 10:45 AM

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Originally posted by dtbushpilot

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I'll be driving my FJ Cruiser instead of riding the bike, whatever route is fine with me, looking forward to it.......dt

Remember, if you have A-TRAC, to push the button after you go into low range (if it is off)! Wish I could go... take photos!

Fernweh - 3-15-2012 at 04:23 PM

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Originally posted by motoged

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Originally posted by Fernweh
....Maybe I'll pre-run this ascent on Sunday....Karl

Karl,
Wanna see pics :biggrin:

Where are the pictures?

I didn't make it to Mulege this time. Too much work at my friend's rancho and not enough time.

My truck did just fine, a quick 1.6K mile trip on a short week of travel down to San Ignacio.
Now I can ready and clean it for the next adventure at the end of April.

Karl

shari - 3-15-2012 at 04:35 PM

we will most likely be camping in the Agua Verde area around those dates and would be pretty cool to hook up with ya'll for some BS'in around a fogata...we'll have a little boat there too...is there a definate date to be in AV?

Fernweh - 3-15-2012 at 05:33 PM

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Originally posted by shari
we will most likely be camping in the Agua Verde area around those dates and would be pretty cool to hook up with ya'll for some BS'in around a fogata...we'll have a little boat there too...is there a definate date to be in AV?

I'm planning of leaving SoCal on April 25th and looking for the 30th at the beach in AV.
TW had posted the following: Maybe in Agua Verde the night of the 30th. I'm open to adjustments.

Yes it would be great to hook up, I then could be there already April 29th or so.

Karl

TMW - 3-15-2012 at 06:10 PM

So far I'm planning on Agua Verde on April 30th. It will be a busy 6 weeks for me. I'm doing a Death Valley trip the end of March, a Colorado trip the middle of April and AV the end of April. Our granddaughter graduates from high school in May but I don't have a date yet.

dtbushpilot - 3-15-2012 at 08:09 PM

I'm in, any day works for me. How many days and how many places are going? There again, it doesn't matter, I'm in, just want to be sure to bring enough of everything.....dt

shari - 3-15-2012 at 08:17 PM

any chance of posting pics of what your vehicles look like...you can email them to me if you prefer so we can keep an eye out for ya...wouldnt want to divulge our secret camp spot!

dtbushpilot - 3-15-2012 at 08:54 PM

You know what mine looks like, Juan pulled it out of the sand when I buried it to the frame on the beach :lol:

TMW - 3-16-2012 at 06:02 AM

I'll be in my 04 Tacoma 4x4. I don't need no sticking A-TRAC, I can crash without it just fine.

Fernweh - 3-16-2012 at 08:22 AM

That's my Adventurewagen, still clean, last Friday just South of El Rosario

shari - 3-16-2012 at 04:04 PM

thanks guys...we are in a white '94 toyota no camper and will watch for ya

TMW - 3-29-2012 at 05:45 PM

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any chance of posting pics of what your vehicles look like...you can email them to me if you prefer so we can keep an eye out for ya...wouldnt want to divulge our secret camp spot!

Shari when do you expect to get there?

motoged - 3-29-2012 at 09:01 PM

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.... Our granddaughter graduates from high school in May but I don't have a date yet.

TW,
I would be your date :biggrin:

....but I'm dirtbiking Moab and Grand Canyon for that time period.

Keep an eye on DT as he assured me to not trust his judgement regarding routes :lol:

I have wanted to do that ride for a few years now....have a good time :coolup:

TMW - 3-30-2012 at 06:37 AM

I will. I think we will let Fernweh lead us out since he has done it before. But getting lost is half the fun.

shari - 3-30-2012 at 07:59 AM

wooo hooooo....vacation countdown...leaving soon...it's a secret...sort of...check U2U.

ENVY

El Comadante Loco - 3-30-2012 at 08:28 AM

TW. I am envious and want to go but I can't. Will be in Africa and Europe until 6/1.

Have a great trip.. Looking forward to your reports

ECL

KurtG - 3-30-2012 at 08:33 AM

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Are you doing the Guajademi road too?

Maybe, as a "warm-up".......could meet some of the group in Mulege already and take this road as a detour to Loreto/Aqua Verde.

Anybody?

Karl

No, sorry I do not do bikes anymore......

my Adventure Wagen is a capable 4x4. Do you think it is passable climbing up from Mulege?

Thanks for you info.

Karl

Based on our trip through there south to north recently I think that your vehicle would handle going up those grades without problem. Your Adventurewagon is much better than our Explorer and a bit narrower track. See my road log posted separately for directions. Its a lovely drive.

Fernweh - 3-30-2012 at 11:01 AM

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I will. I think we will let Fernweh lead us out since he has done it before. But getting lost is half the fun.

TW,

no problem leading the way out of Aqua Verde......but then we can get lost together trying to find the shortcut to Timbabichi :yes:

KurtG,

thanks for you trip report. I have not explored the mountains west of Mulege/Loreto at all and will definitely drive that road before resting on the beach in AV.

Karl

David K - 3-30-2012 at 11:24 AM

I sure would like to join you all... wish me luck on tonight's Mega Millions lottery! :light:

motoged - 3-31-2012 at 12:02 PM

How they do it Down Under...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wk6KJXeOM0k&feature=related

TMW - 4-1-2012 at 10:50 AM

That's a hell of a trailer they were pulling. I hope everything held up inside it.

4x4abc - 4-1-2012 at 11:23 AM

what happened to my post? Did I offend anyone and get kicked out?

David K - 4-1-2012 at 11:32 AM

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what happened to my post? Did I offend anyone and get kicked out?

Check your email, and could it be in this thread instead?: http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=57503

As a rule, it takes a LOT to get a post removed... Doug (BajaNomad) rarely removes post unless it is severly insulting or contains R or X rated language or photos (see board rules)... He like Baja Nomad to be PG-13 or cleaner!

Hook - 4-1-2012 at 11:33 AM

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what happened to my post? Did I offend anyone and get kicked out?

Are you sure it wasnt in the other Timbabichi post? Or that you accidently deleted it yourself?

Posts deleted by the moderator(s) are VERY rare around here.

Fernweh - 4-1-2012 at 11:39 AM

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what happened to my post? Did I offend anyone and get kicked out?

Relax Harald,

just sign up for this trip, bring your non-windows laptop and lets meet on out favorite beach in Aqua Verde.

Or if you up to, let's do the steep Mulege mountain together before resting on the AV beach.

Karl

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