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How Come Mengano Was Banned?

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Lobsterman - 2-6-2012 at 04:17 AM

Anyone know why Mengano was banned? I enjoyed his accurate translations of events that are happening in Mexico today. It's informative to hear the "Otherside of the Story" as the great Paul Harvey use to say. I'm a big boy and can make decisions on my own from what I observe and read. Also letting me know about the BNs who have less than a steller background is helpful. Would you want Ray to babysit your kids or leave your wife alone with Horns?

Guess this censored site will return to those who have a vested interest in keeping the truth about certain parts of Mexico hidden.

Very disappointing.
Dennis

[Edited on 2-6-2012 by Lobsterman]

bajadave1 - 2-6-2012 at 04:44 AM

perhaps all of the negative posts were getting old.

I quit reading them a while back. certainly did not merit any replies. Very boring for the most part.

:no:

paranewbi - 2-6-2012 at 05:50 AM

We all do have the choice to turn the channel.

baja Steve - 2-6-2012 at 06:57 AM

Let Mengano change his channel.

DENNIS - 2-6-2012 at 07:08 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by bajadave1
perhaps all of the negative posts were getting old.

Do you mean, "Negative news?" If we don't hear or read the negative news, will things get better?
I hope so.

Ya know.....in all the time Mengano/Fulano/A-Head and all the others posted here, they almost always started out with news from an outside source, and verufied with links.
Then...the sheet hit the fan, but it was thrown by someone else.
I'm not defending Mengano et al.....just making a point. You folks here who argued and fought most often with Mengano thrived on it as much or more than Mengano hisself, but don't worry.....your game will begin again after, of course, the required respite.

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[Edited on 2-6-2012 by DENNIS]

classicbajabronco - 2-6-2012 at 08:12 AM

I also liked his posts, in fact they were the only ones I was reading as of late. He provided a great service imho. As a fulltime resident of baja, I like to be informed of what is happening around me. We also read the local news daily, but often Mengano posted news we didn't see.

Why is there even a Baja News area if baja news is not welcome? I mainly visit this site for the news. Maybe the Baja News area would be better if it was just a large sand box one could bury their head in.

Seems to me that all of Mengano's thread got lots of hits, which would be a positive thing to a blog owner, considering the more hits a site gets the more value it has to the companies sponsoring this site, which in turn would mean more $$ for the BN site.

:?:

[Edited on 2-6-2012 by classicbajabronco]

Ateo - 2-6-2012 at 08:24 AM

Maybe it was the homophobic remarks he made in OT.

Oddjob - 2-6-2012 at 08:27 AM

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Originally posted by classicbajabronco
I also liked his posts, in fact they were the only ones I was reading as of late. He provided a great service imho.

Why is there even a Baja News area if baja news is not welcome? I mainly visit this site for the news. Maybe the Baja News area would be better if it was just a large sand box one could bury their head in.

Seems to me that all of Mengano's thread got lots of hits, which would be a positive thing to a blog owner, considering the more hits a site gets the more value it has to the companies sponsoring this site, which in turn would mean more $$ for the BN site.

:?:

I agree with you. If you don't like to hear the news that Mengano posted just don't read it. I prefer to make my own choices on what I read here and his posts were useful to get the big picture of what goes on in Mexico. Now everyone can go back to looking at pictures of fish and flowers and finding out where to get that best fish taco.

Skipjack Joe - 2-6-2012 at 08:39 AM

Hopefully Jesse will come back now.

DENNIS - 2-6-2012 at 08:48 AM

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Originally posted by Skipjack Joe
Hopefully Jesse will come back now.

Probably not. I think he understands the "YO YO" phenomena in place here.

Lee - 2-6-2012 at 08:49 AM

My impression of mengano was he only posted bad news. Similar to the sensational stuff printed NOB about Mexico. The people NOB reading this stuff don't/can't differentiate mainland MX and Baja -- killings in Acapulco make Baja equally dangerous. Drug busts in Tiajuana doesn't mean La Paz has a drug war going on.

I too was amazed at the number of nomads who participated in mengano's threads about violence and negative stuff. Maybe by discussing what is upsetting, the negative will be easier to deal with? Don't have the answer to that.

I think anyone traveling Baja knows the beauty here. Even if they've not experienced anything bad, they're aware that bad things happen.

Provocative and sensational headlines in a thread might provide some readers comfort (see! There IS violence in Mexico!), but does little to reflect the true state of affairs down here. Even if some of the bad news is true.

BajaRat - 2-6-2012 at 08:53 AM

Don't fret precious I'm here, step away from the window. Go back to sleep.
I'll keep you safe from harm, choice, truth and what ever poison devils haunt you.

Go back to sleep

mcfez - 2-6-2012 at 09:12 AM

Perhaps the folks that he terrorized here in the BN for going up against him.......that ended up have a full page story done about them.....including family member names and pictures....bogus information....private information blasted on the fulanofiles ....and here in the BN.....got him kicked out of here?

Perhaps his postings that displayed 100% anti Mexico news accounts, charts and other numerous avenues that he used to respond to newbies...as well as us established BN's .....got him kicked out of here?

Perhaps his hypercritical repetitious retorts just got old...... got him kicked out of here?

Perhaps posting private U2's .............got him kicked out of here?

Having so many negative retorts and such .......in any forum.............does NOT draw in more readers to the BN or any other forum.........most read a bit and never come back. Whoever in this world thinks that Doug allowed this clown to be a menacingly poster just so the visitor count stays high...related to advertisement dollars.......is nutz.

Thanks Doug.....for providing us with a forum!

DENNIS - 2-6-2012 at 09:30 AM

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Originally posted by soulpatch
I have no doubt the "harbinger" will be back and, so what.

Hard to return to a place you never left....they say. :lol:

DENNIS - 2-6-2012 at 09:34 AM

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Originally posted by mcfez
Perhaps his postings that displayed 100% anti Mexico news accounts, charts

Aww...c'mon, Deno....news is news. He didn't make up the stuff.

I know what you're saying and I appreciate it, but we all deserve the news. Don't have to read it, but we deserve it.

mcfez - 2-6-2012 at 10:12 AM

We do DENNIS deserve...... an balanced news accounting of Baja.

Another issue was (and will be again I am sure!) that Fulano would post these 100 % negative news stories and/or his remarks....right below another BN's post that was talking about good stuff of Baja. He just slammed the good stuff......and that's where it was wrong. Debate him a little after his postings...he then make it nasty with personal rebuttals. .......till he got the last word in.

We are all indeed have entitlement to express opinions .....Fulano was assassinating BN's here for their positive outlook of Baja.

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Originally posted by DENNIS

Quote:

Originally posted by mcfez
Perhaps his postings that displayed 100% anti Mexico news accounts, charts

Aww...c'mon, Deno....news is news. He didn't make up the stuff.

I know what you're saying and I appreciate it, but we all deserve the news. Don't have to read it, but we deserve it.

bigzaggin - 2-6-2012 at 10:18 AM

I'm neutral on the ban/reinstatement issue, but whatever happens next, dude should never again be allowed to post close-up photos of his hands.

I still shiver thinking about it.

banned

captkw - 2-6-2012 at 10:24 AM

Hola, how was nomads notifed on the ban? and by who ???? confused as alway's ... :?:

K&T

watizname - 2-6-2012 at 10:25 AM

Didn't know he was gone. Was it announced?? He'll be back, guy like that CAN'T let things go.

Tbone - 2-6-2012 at 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by mcfez
We do DENNIS deserve...... an balanced news accounting of Baja.

Another issue was (and will be again I am sure!) that Fulano would post these 100 % negative news stories and/or his remarks....right below another BN's post that was talking about good stuff of Baja. He just slammed the good stuff......and that's where it was wrong. Debate him a little after his postings...he then make it nasty with personal rebuttals. .......till he got the last word in.

We are all indeed have entitlement to express opinions .....Fulano was assassinating BN's here for their positive outlook of Baja.

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Originally posted by DENNIS

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Originally posted by mcfez
Perhaps his postings that displayed 100% anti Mexico news accounts, charts

Aww...c'mon, Deno....news is news. He didn't make up the stuff.

I know what you're saying and I appreciate it, but we all deserve the news. Don't have to read it, but we deserve it.

This guy’s posts were always labeled as to what they were about, no bait and switch. If his posts bother you, why are you reading them. So they ban the guy so FEZ and a couple others doesn’t get his feeling hurt. Baja Nomad just took a step in the wrong direction. Censorship is never good.

DENNIS - 2-6-2012 at 10:49 AM

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Originally posted by bigzaggin
reinstatement

That probably won't be happening any time soon. "Return"...perhaps. "Reinstatement"....never.

Woooosh - 2-6-2012 at 10:59 AM

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Originally posted by classicbajabronco

Why is there even a Baja News area if baja news is not welcome? I mainly visit this site for the news. Maybe the Baja News area would be better if it was just a large sand box one could bury their head in.

[Edited on 2-6-2012 by classicbajabronco]

It needs to be renamed to "BAJA GOOD NEWS ONLY".

Woooosh - 2-6-2012 at 12:41 PM

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Originally posted by lencho

Quote:

Originally posted by soulpatch
Valid point.
Maybe I have been in a firehouse too long and just see some things as being trivial that are not to most normal people.
I guess I was looking at it from an "apply a filter of perspective" viewpoint.

And maybe I've been too long in Mexico-- a high context culture-- to take things at simple face value.

I would be very surprised if this person was banned because of his anti-Mexico content.

I think he comes here to predate, to feed off vulnerable members of this community for his own self-gratification at others' cost, and I support Doug for his decision.

Apparently it depends who you are. He has been nothing but supportive of my efforts to improve Rosarito Beach. If he hates Mexico so much- why would he help me create a disabled beach access point here? So, I really don't think he hates Mexico, he hates the whitewashing of Mexico by those with vested and hidden interests. Fortunately his perspective is printed regularly in The San Diego Reader and on his own site. Maggie is still translating and evaluating the local news as well.

Skipjack Joe - 2-6-2012 at 12:50 PM

The man needs some serious counseling.

24baja - 2-6-2012 at 01:09 PM

KUDOS to the person who banned Mengano, I was growing extremely tired of their incessant negative attitude toward Mexico. I get that he/she felt it their duty to report everything negative, however, I think I am able to make good decisions about whether or not I should travel to Mexico based on my findings. And if this person feels that it is such a terrible place they should find somewhere else to be happy....if that is possible given their general attitude displayed on this board.......thanks for letting me voice my opinion.

wessongroup - 2-6-2012 at 01:15 PM

As Baja Turns ... :biggrin:

... its life... enjoy it... I do

Woooosh - 2-6-2012 at 02:09 PM

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Originally posted by wessongroup
As Baja Turns ... :biggrin:

... its life... enjoy it... I do

Well, I know what you mean- but the last few weeks around here weren't enjoyable for anyone. Assh*oles proved they were assh*les to the next level, that's all. People had their pasts dug through and posted like it was current and even relevant to what or who they are today. Once people turn their on-line grudges into lawsuit threats- you gotta wonder what is going on inside their heads/meds. There was no high ground taken by anyone and the ugly facts revealed about some nomads by Mengano can't be put back in the bottle. Everyone got some mud on them. No winners imho. Mengano got a red card, but you can be sure the game will continue. Anyone chest-thumping just needs to go back and read what was written about them (and here forever) and see if it was worth it. Fulano was a CFO of a major corporation, and you don't get there without some serious brain talent. Smart people are quirky.

The anti-Jew rhetoric that has continued today tells me things won't get better here any time soon. And that's OK for OT- it's just not fun to watch people self-destruct.

[Edited on 2-6-2012 by Woooosh]

Bad news? Good news? Enjoy.

Lee - 2-6-2012 at 02:16 PM

Negative press for Baja?

Like drivers slowing at the scene of a car accident, these voyeurs need reinforcement that the world is unsafe, and Mexico is especially dangerous.

Like most of the friends I have NOB, they believe most of what they read in print, and see on television.

Don't insult nomad intelligence (is this an oxymarooon?) stating the National Enquirer, or San Diego newspaper, is anything but the same rag wanting to sell paper.

Everyone here knows bad things happen. On the other hand, garbage in garbage out. Enjoy.

wessongroup - 2-6-2012 at 02:39 PM

Hear ya Woooosh... but, I personally don't use one's past to judge them NOW !!

The past is the past, and nothing can be done to change it... as most of know very well

If some wish's dig up ones PAST error's in judgement ... I toss it all ... think they call it being Christian ... or just being a tolerant and reasonable human being JMHO

Cypress - 2-6-2012 at 02:43 PM

Being the bearer of bad news wasn't the reason for Mengano getting booted. His personal attacks on Nomads who had issues with his posts did him in.

rts551 - 2-6-2012 at 02:48 PM

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Originally posted by wessongroup
Hear ya Woooosh... but, I personally don't use one's past to judge them NOW !!

The past is the past, and nothing can be done to change it... as most of know very well

If some wish's dig up ones PAST error's in judgement ... I toss it all ... think they call it being Christian ... or just being a tolerant and reasonable human being JMHO

I guess that is why we register sex offenders, huh? Personally, I would prefer some of these people stay away from my family.

wessongroup - 2-6-2012 at 03:15 PM

Sorry for not qualifying my statement ... as their are some individuals that may require more attention than others ..

But, still hold that one's past is their past and should be allowed the opportunity to preform within society ... and it should be on a case by case basis ... not corporal punishment, with heavy, heavy media spin ...

Not condoning nor suporting NAMBA, or anything along those lines.. but, think one should not move quickly from one area of individuals rights without a very, very careful understanding of what is really going on ... based on careful review of fact's .. and, the placement of liabilty on the Physicans treating and/or releasing the individual back into the "population".. when allowed either by time served and clinical observation ... not putting the liablity on society and the police

Maybe we could go back to branding.. SX= sex offender, Rp=Rapeist, K= Killer you get the idea ... as what happens to individuals in this country after being convicted of a felony is basicly the end of ones life as you know it...

Men are especially at a disadvantage ... as no women would marry a man to support THEM !! or maybe I'm missing something .... can hear the line now.. well, what do you do .. for a living ... Burp !!

By the way, what percentage of convicted felons are sex offender's ... can't find a true number, as sex crimes are categories the same as "murder".

Perhaps the stat's which are being presented may be a bit off ... just saying

As for keeping them away from my family .. we did and still do ... as far as I know..

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=misundersto...

[Edited on 2-6-2012 by wessongroup]

Terry28 - 2-6-2012 at 03:55 PM

Wiley, Are you freaking kidding me?? That's why we have background checks, credit checks, employment histories,references etc. What you have said and done in the past reflects a ton on what you say and are today..It is important to know all you can about people and issues of trust.....if only to be disappointed in your fellow man.......

BajaNomad - 2-6-2012 at 04:16 PM

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Originally posted by Cypress
Being the bearer of bad news wasn't the reason for Mengano getting booted. His personal attacks on Nomads who had issues with his posts did him in.

Remember that while many in this thread are speculating about what they find or see on the board right now... usually what has caused such an action is no longer visible.

Quote:

Originally posted by Woooosh

Quote:

Originally posted by classicbajabronco

Why is there even a Baja News area if baja news is not welcome? ...

It needs to be renamed to "BAJA GOOD NEWS ONLY".

This would be an inaccurate assumption and poor suggestion IMHO. Topics that are unwelcome - or have very little Baja-relevance - are always moved or removed.

:light:

wessongroup - 2-6-2012 at 04:21 PM

"What you have said and done in the past reflects a ton on what you say and are today"

Perhaps... but, if one wishes to change... HOW ??

Have hired folks on a hand shake .... No back ground check... do the work, and ya get the pay... bad apples... sure .. but, would rather work the other way.. Assume they are ok and give ANYONE a chance... everyone needs another chance .. IMHO

Everyone can run their own business their own way... it is America .. if ya want to look at your employee's in this fashion ... it's your right... as is mine to NOT run a back ground check ... if it is not required by a supplier, part of a contract (which I would not enter into) ... etc...

There are a lot of folks out there in a corner which they can almost never get out of ... much like a ghetto

Woooosh - 2-6-2012 at 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BajaNomad

Quote:

Originally posted by Cypress
Being the bearer of bad news wasn't the reason for Mengano getting booted. His personal attacks on Nomads who had issues with his posts did him in.

Remember that while many in this thread are speculating about what they find or see on the board right now... usually what has caused such an action is no longer visible.

Quote:

Originally posted by Woooosh

Quote:

Originally posted by classicbajabronco

Why is there even a Baja News area if baja news is not welcome? ...

It needs to be renamed to "BAJA GOOD NEWS ONLY".

This would be an inaccurate assumption and poor suggestion IMHO. Topics that are unwelcome - or have very little Baja-relevance - are always moved or removed.

:light:

removing and editing posts is a full-time, thankless job that pays nearly nada- just ask the moderator. Perhaps the board and the moderator benefit from a little infighting and internal housecleaning from time to time. It does seem to be cyclical. I have never figured this stuff out. Wiley and I like to stay oblivious to the obvious. :lol:

[Edited on 2-6-2012 by Woooosh]

Bajahowodd - 2-6-2012 at 05:00 PM

Why does just about everyone think that Mengano was a "he"?

IMHO, given the specific personal attacks/ references scattered throughout Mengano's posts, I have felt all along that Mengano was really everyone's "friend" and former Gringo Gazette editor Nancy.

That's my two cents,

greengoes - 2-6-2012 at 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bajahowodd
IMHO, given the specific personal attacks/ references scattered throughout Mengano's posts, I have felt all along that Mengano was really everyone's "friend" and former Gringo Gazette editor Nancy.

Mengano was Nancy Conroy???......one other person once said the same thing. Good Ol' Maggie.

DENNIS - 2-6-2012 at 05:41 PM

Jeeeezo....if anyone out there is in need of attention, just get yourself banned. You'll be smothered in the stuff.

vgabndo - 2-6-2012 at 06:03 PM

Well that person was a whale of a researcher. Perhaps their profession gave them access to those pay for info sites that let him REJUDGE folks.

From the Fulano files, I get the impression that their real contact with reality ends with a belief in talking snakes, so research ability notwithstanding, their opinion is invalid to me.

The only reason I'll miss them is that they so screwed up the grading curve that without them some of my comments might rise much higher on the questionability guage!

It is nice having a lightning rod around! :lol:

BajaNomad - 2-6-2012 at 07:18 PM

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Originally posted by jakecard
Interesting link, Ken. Thanks. Many familiar BajaNomad screen-names in that forum over there!

...Did Doug ban Mengano from Doug's forum, BajaNomad, before Mengano reciprocated yesterday by banning Doug from Mengano's forum, Baja NoMas?

Many people have registered same/similar usernames over there as users here - but it's not the same people, including "BajaNomad".

I am not, nor have been, a registered user of that site.

DENNIS - 2-6-2012 at 07:19 PM

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Originally posted by jakecard
Did you know that while Fulano has been posting on Doug's forum recently under his most recent pseudonym, Mengano, that Doug has also been posting on Fulano's forum under the name, Baja Nomad?

I don theeeenk soo. :lol:

Ateo - 2-6-2012 at 07:25 PM

Hopefully this novella will end soon. It doesn't even have a hot Latina in it.

Roberto - 2-6-2012 at 07:31 PM

the banned banner is a joke. and that is NOT Doug. FYI.

:lol:

[Edited for: :lol:

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[Edited on 2-7-2012 by Roberto]

Roberto - 2-6-2012 at 07:37 PM

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Originally posted by BajaNomad

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Many people have registered same/similar usernames over there as users here - but it's not the same people, including "BajaNomad".

I am not, nor have been, a registered user of that site.

Yes, even DavidK was registered over there for a while. And, can you believe it, there's a Roberto over there too! You just don't know who you can trust these days.

wessongroup - 2-6-2012 at 07:48 PM

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Originally posted by DENNIS
Jeeeezo....if anyone out there is in need of attention, just get yourself banned. You'll be smothered in the stuff.

Looks like the "drooling" over at the bar paid off... outstanding... :lol:

BajaNomad - 2-6-2012 at 08:09 PM

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Originally posted by jakecard
this is getting complicated. If usernames such as DENNIS, Baja Nomad, Wessongroup et. al. are fake identities over "there,"

I said many, not all were not the same users here. Please take that into consideration.

wessongroup - 2-6-2012 at 08:10 PM

If one reads the post... continuity does develop a style ...

.. my user name is on just about everything ... along with a web site link...

Really did NOT know about this identity thingy ... filled it all out completely .. WOW

As most know, tracking down someone can be done... if ya want to spend a little time and money ... some folks make a living at it... both private and public...

With certain exceptions duly noted... :biggrin:

[Edited on 2-7-2012 by wessongroup]

[Edited on 2-7-2012 by wessongroup]

Islandbuilder - 2-6-2012 at 08:20 PM

As far as expecting any one source to be "balanced"; I think that is a bit naive. I had no problem with Mengano being "all negative all the time", he (either he's a he, or she has come biiiiiig hands!) told the truth and posted supporting links. No problems there for me.

The problem (from my humble opinion) was when Mengano went after a forum member who took exception with his style by posting a lot of personal information. That someone has compiled that sort of info on any of us I found a bit creepy. Stalker-ish. What's next, a van with curtained windows parked in front of your house?

Banned for that behavior, cool. Banned for a negative focus (but true and supported), not cool.

BajaBlanca - 2-6-2012 at 08:55 PM

I, for one, am very glad mengano is gone. I hadn't been reading his/her stuff for a long time but it still irked me that he/she was only writing about extremely negative topics incessantly. life is about balance .... IMO.

Roberto - 2-6-2012 at 09:02 PM

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Originally posted by BajaBlanca
I, for one, am very glad mengano is gone. I hadn't been reading his/her stuff for a long time but it still irked me that he/she was only writing about extremely negative topics incessantly. life is about balance .... IMO.

I am stunned you would feel that way. Last thing you need is somone publishing "bad news" about Baja. How do you get irked by things you don't read, anyway? Inquiring minds want to know.

All I want to say is . . . .

djh - 2-6-2012 at 09:35 PM

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THANK YOU, DOUG !!
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watizname - 2-6-2012 at 09:36 PM

Now we got the good guys against the good guys. Ma-guano has acheived his purpose. Let the slime go down the drain. Check out Don Jorge's post about him and his daughter surfing their brains out and having fun. That's what forum is supposed to be about.

:wow:

DENNIS - 2-6-2012 at 10:01 PM

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Originally posted by jakecard

But wait, this is getting complicated. If usernames such as DENNIS, Baja Nomad, Wessongroup et. al. are fake identities over "there," then how do we know whether those usernames are real identities over "here?"

Lemme help you out, Jake. DENNIS is me...here and there. :light:

Denise...

EnsenadaDr - 2-6-2012 at 10:15 PM

Some say Dennis is Bufadora Denise by night...she is found dancing with the monkeys at her house by a campfire...

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Originally posted by DENNIS

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Lemme help you out, Jake. DENNIS is me...here and there. :light:

David K - 2-6-2012 at 10:16 PM

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Originally posted by Roberto

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Originally posted by BajaNomad

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Many people have registered same/similar usernames over there as users here - but it's not the same people, including "BajaNomad".

I am not, nor have been, a registered user of that site.

Yes, even DavidK was registered over there for a while. And, can you believe it, there's a Roberto over there too! You just don't know who you can trust these days.

For the record... I have NEVER been on that site :light:

(ps I always use a space after my first name).

Woooosh - 2-6-2012 at 10:31 PM

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Originally posted by DENNIS

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Lemme help you out, Jake. DENNIS is me...here and there. :light:

and Woooosh is Woooosh.

Come to a BajaNomad event and see for yourself

Ken Cooke - 2-6-2012 at 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jakecard
If usernames such as DENNIS, Baja Nomad, Wessongroup et. al. are fake identities over "there," then how do we know whether those usernames are real identities over "here?"

Jake

(The real) Ken Cooke with (The real) Fernando Obeso

(The real) Doug Means with (The real) Fernando Obeso

DENNIS - 2-7-2012 at 06:42 AM

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Originally posted by EnsenadaDr
Some say Dennis is Bufadora Denise by night...she is found dancing with the monkeys at her house by a campfire...

Not true.

ELINVESTIG8R - 2-7-2012 at 06:51 AM

I for one am sorry to see the banishment of Mengano. He really does have good and true information to impart to everyone here regarding Mexico. Of course, what he reports is very bad because Mexico is a very violent place.

When the United States starts having mass murders at one time by different criminal factions, who then compound their horror by cutting their victim’s heads off and stacking heads and bodies like a cord of wood on major thoroughfares then people can compare the United states with Mexico. Until then you cannot justify the comparison.

Yes –Mengano He can be abrasive with a few in here, but as I see it, those few really, and I mean REALLY deserve it. I know some in here do not agree that if attacked, one should not attack back. I do not agree with that. If someone pulls a knife, you expect a gun in your nose.

Well, that is is my two cents in the matter. If you disagree, I do not care because I know I’m right!

larryC - 2-7-2012 at 08:31 AM

If you think Mengano is gone, just take a look at the new members list for 2-6-12 and 2-7-12. Lots of new members on those 2 dates. I'd be very surprized if Fulano wasn't several, if not all of them.
Larry

DENNIS - 2-7-2012 at 08:43 AM

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Originally posted by larryC
If you think Mengano is gone, just take a look at the new members list for 2-6-12 and 2-7-12. Lots of new members on those 2 dates. I'd be very surprized if Fulano wasn't several, if not all of them.
Larry

Mengano et al. is becoming a mythical legend like the Boogeyman waiting around every corner in ambush. In the future, we'll be able to say to our kids, "Eat your veggies or Mengano will ruin all your teeth." :lol:

Ateo - 2-7-2012 at 09:05 AM

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Originally posted by lencho

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Originally posted by ELINVESTIG8R
I for one am sorry to see the banishment of Mengano.

You're an honest, law-abiding citizen, right? What's your opinion about this guy continuing to return in different disguises, to private property where he was plainly informed by the owner that he's not welcome? :?:

Good one!

Oddjob - 2-7-2012 at 09:17 AM

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For the record... I have NEVER been on that site :light:

(ps I always use a space after my first name).

Never? Not even a quick peek? :lol:

CortezBlue - 2-7-2012 at 09:57 AM

Forums are not democracy's, therefore, there is no freedom of speech.

I think, short of personal attack that includes threats of harm, all topics and information should be uncensored.

Someone on this thread mentioned:

"My take is that if someone comes here exclusively to entertain himself at others' expense by manipulating them into reacting with behavior that will feed him attention, that he's sucking off the community."

Psychology 101, if you respond negatively to someone who is "manipulating" you, that is your responsibility, not there's.

So, if someone wants to discuss the underbelly of Baja and you read it and you don't like what you are reading, what do you do?

Kill the piano player or stop reading his threads.

Maybe there should be a function built into the forum that blocks topics from certain members, and in your profile there can be a list of blocked folks so that other members understand who you don't read or respond to?

But not censorship or bannishment

Personally I was hoping for Mengano v David K cage match. I would have paid for that on PPV.

Woooosh - 2-7-2012 at 10:14 AM

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Originally posted by DENNIS

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Originally posted by EnsenadaDr
Some say Dennis is Bufadora Denise by night...she is found dancing with the monkeys at her house by a campfire...

Not true.

certainly would not be a petite woman... easy, but not petite.

Woooosh - 2-7-2012 at 10:23 AM

This is Doug's sandbox. That simple. There is plenty of lumber and sand for those who wish to build and run their own. The one thing people seem to agree on about Mengano is they liked the statistics he provided to back up his posts or to refute inaccurate statements made by others. I thought 12,000 expats lived here in Rosarito- Mengano proved it was only 1,624. Stuff like that.

The truth will always find a way to be heard though. always.

DENNIS - 2-7-2012 at 10:27 AM

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Originally posted by Woooosh
certainly would not be a petite woman... easy, but not petite.

Careful there, Rocky.
Keeping in fighting trim, are ya Craig? :lol:

KASHEYDOG - 2-7-2012 at 11:30 AM

[Edited on 11-10-12 by KASHEYDOG]

Skipjack Joe - 2-7-2012 at 11:35 AM

Sooner or later the man will end up doing time.

This is little different than the harrassment that employees often undergo from some unhappy individual. Once he's identified he's asked to leave. Companies have laws that prohibit an individual from doing what Mengano has done to this website.

I knew a woman at apple whose advances were rejected by a co worker. So he started sending her anonymous insulting emails. Phone messages were left when she didn't pick up. In the end she was identified and was very fortunate to only be dismissed.

Mengano-fulano-Meknow-Minnow reincarnations here are the same.

CortezBlue - 2-7-2012 at 11:47 AM

I knew a woman at apple whose advances were rejected by a co worker. So he started sending her anonymous insulting emails. Phone messages were left when she didn't pick up. In the end she was identified and was very fortunate to only be dismissed.

Mengano-fulano-Meknow-Minnow reincarnations here are the same.

I am trying to understand this? So the gal was making advances to a guy, who rejected them and then started hassling her?

I know a lady, at my grocery store here in Phoenix, who had best friends who were shot at on the way to Rocky Point.

Yet, I have not been able to find any articles or facts about a husband and a wife on a Harley being pulled over by banditos and shot at. Probably never happened.

Point, it is like playing Post Office when we were kids, how the story begins and ends are usually two different things.

:lol:

JoeJustJoe - 2-7-2012 at 11:57 AM

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Originally posted by Woooosh
This is Doug's sandbox. That simple. There is plenty of lumber and sand for those who wish to build and run their own. The one thing people seem to agree on about Mengano is they liked the statistics he provided to back up his posts or to refute inaccurate statements made by others. I thought 12,000 expats lived here in Rosarito- Mengano proved it was only 1,624. Stuff like that.

The truth will always find a way to be heard though. always.

It's doubtful only 1624 expats lived in Rosarito.

Wooosh how about all those deported felons from the US prisons? Do you think they are counted in that 1624 number?

Many Americans including Mexican-Americans don't either bother with the paper work, and just aren't counted. They are illegal American aliens.

Mengano tried his best to give the impression that Mexico is a really extremely dangerous country just like a war zone, and that Americans were avoiding Mexico because of that danger.

Mengano used to get furious just furious if anybody disagreed with him and didn't share his same fears about Mexico.

Mengano/Fulano would then attack such "Baja Nomad" members by trying to belittle them, and make fun of them. If Mengano/Fulano really got mad. He tried to dig into "Nomad's members backgrounds in order to find any dirt on them, and hopefully embarrassing them in the hope they disappear or never challenge Fulano again. And if Fulano didn't find any dirt on his perceived enemies. He would just make stuff up out of thin air.

To me, that's just beyond the pale, and I question anybody's sanity that defends Mengano/Fulano off the wall antics, threats and trying to out others personal information just because he didn't agree with them or he felt slighted by their remarks.

DENNIS - 2-7-2012 at 12:02 PM

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Originally posted by JoeJustJoe
how about all those deported felons from the US prisons? Do you think they are counted in that 1624 number?

If they were deported, they probably weren't US expats.

Bufadora Denise

EnsenadaDr - 2-7-2012 at 12:03 PM

OK Then, Dennis, who is that woman dancing and playing with your monkeys?? Oh yeah, I can hear her singing, ¨Who put the overalls in Mrs. Murphy´s chowder,¨so she clearly is Irish, and a bottle of Buchanan´s in her right hand!!

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Originally posted by DENNIS

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Originally posted by Woooosh
certainly would not be a petite woman... easy, but not petite.

Careful there, Rocky.
Keeping in fighting trim, are ya Craig? :lol:

vgabndo - 2-7-2012 at 12:15 PM

Really Joe? meknow and minnow too? Am I really that nieve and unobservant? Well, duh.

For the record, I'm kinda glad I don't have a fake identity "over there". I got sucked into Pat Chicas' site for a while, and I followed links to the F. Files, otherwise I'm an Amigo de Baja who followed the rest of you over here months after most of you "anchors" had discovered this place. I seldom visit any other Baja site. Thanks Doug!

I guess if Fulano Googled Perry Sims History, looking for dirt, he realized I'm proud of my pages, and hope they will grow. :lol:

This venue will still get the news it deserves to know, hopefully, without another reincarnation of "baggage man". :lol:

DENNIS - 2-7-2012 at 12:37 PM

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Originally posted by EnsenadaDr
, and a bottle of Buchanan´s in her right hand!!

From the sound of things, I'd say it was you. SALUD

Barn Burners

Skipjack Joe - 2-7-2012 at 12:50 PM

In the old days they were known as barn burners.

It went as follows. A hired hand on some farm from our past was caught doing something (stealing chickens, I don't know). So he was asked to leave. And he does but he has one final present for his former employer. He sets the barn ablaze.

The smoke is seen from miles around and neighbors appear desperately trying to bring the fire down. After it's all over there are questions about how it started. There were no witnesses and nobody knows for sure. The barn burner is safe.

Mengano has been defecating on this website for years now. For first being dismissed over 10 years ago.

mtgoat666 - 2-7-2012 at 01:33 PM

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Originally posted by JoeJustJoe

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It's doubtful only 1624 expats lived in Rosarito.

Wooosh how about all those deported felons from the US prisons? Do you think they are counted in that 1624 number?

the gringo population of rosarito is probably 1,620 expat retirees, 4 mormon missionaries, and 2 of donald trump's landmen.

the deported felons are not expats because they are mexican (last i heard the USA does not deport citizens, though they should deport one named chuck! :lol:

)

greengoes - 2-7-2012 at 01:57 PM

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Originally posted by mtgoat666
The truth will always find a way to be heard though. always.

the gringo population of rosarito is probably 1,620 expat retirees, 4 mormon missionaries, and 2 of donald trump's landmen.

the deported felons are not expats because they are mexican (last i heard the USA does not deport citizens, though they should deport one named chuck! :lol:

)

The two Trump frontmen left more than three years ago, when the Trump Corp. denied being part of that promotion. I would guess 2k to 3k gringos sin papel in the area.

norte - 2-7-2012 at 02:06 PM

Sounds like a lot of jealousy going on here. I am glad he brought the news to us...and I am glad he exposed (so to speak) the backgrounds of some of the "nomads" here.

JoeJustJoe - 2-7-2012 at 02:28 PM

Alright alright I made a mistake by talking about the deported criminals from the US jails to Tijuana. But if you ever talk to these guys they speak English and have more in common with the culture above the border than below and are Mexican-American in every sense of the word except they don't have the proper papers.

But the fact is there are many illegal immigrants in Mexico, and most of them are from the US. Mexico has always been a gateway for American citizen criminals on the lamb who seek refuge from the law and just want to hide out, or commit more crimes. Even in the American made movies, many of the movies plots center around the characters making a run to the border. Thelma and Louise, and Shawshank Redemption are a couple of examples of American movies with the goal of making a run to Mexico, and living happily ever after if they could just make it to Mexico.

I still think it's a joke to believe there are only 1624 American ex-pats living Rosarito. How about the the Mexican-American and Americans that only live in Baja part-time and don't bother with the paperwork? How about the the American criminals hiding out in Baja?

Here is a nice article on Mexico's illegal immigration:

Mexico's Illegal Immigrants Hail Mostly From U.S.

GUADALAJARA, Mexico -- It may be the dream of some college seniors to spend a year post-graduation working "under the table" serving pints in some glorious European city. But thousands of American adults living on the lam in Mexico? As in the United States, estimates of the number of illegal immigrants in Mexico are hard to come by. But the majority are ex-pats from the U.S., according to Mexico's federal bureau of immigration. Read the whole story: GlobalPost

http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/mexico/100916/migrants-il...
__________

Here is another Baja write up that claims there are 14,000 thousands ex-pats in Baja, and that "Baja is safe, so come on down." This was written in 2009, and perhaps a little dated, but I'm sure still accurate because only a handful of Americans have been killed in Baja:

http://www.rosarito.org/mediaresources/pressreleases/3pr2009...

DENNIS - 2-7-2012 at 02:37 PM

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Originally posted by JoeJustJoe
only a handful of Americans have been killed in Baja:

That's too many, Joe. Doncha think that's too many? I think it is, Joe. It's too many. Why do you think that handful doesn't count? They have mothers too, ya know.

JoeJustJoe - 2-7-2012 at 03:00 PM

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Originally posted by DENNIS

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Originally posted by JoeJustJoe
only a handful of Americans have been killed in Baja:

That's too many, Joe. Doncha think that's too many? I think it is, Joe. It's too many. Why do you think that handful doesn't count? They have mothers too, ya know.

No I don't think that's too many because murders happen all over the world including California. Then again even one murder could be too much especially if it was a close friend or family member.

A good example is what happened in Oakland CA a few weeks ago while the Oakland police were cracking down on the occupy protesters in Oakland.

During that Occupy movement weekend. There were more than 450 calls that dialed 911 and there were five murders in Oakland just that weekend! I understand from other articles that many of those calls went unanswered or the police were to busy to show up at many of these 9/11 calls because they were too busy cracking down on protesting US citizens in Oakland.

But I wouldn't for a second tell anybody that living in Oakland is too dangerous, or they shouldn't even visit Oakland. But that's what the "alarmist" do all the time who cover Mexico and Baja.

However, Dennis anytime Baja gets too hot for you. I think you should leave and come back to the USA. It's that simple. If you're worried about selling your property. Isn't your life more important than Mexican property that isn't worth very much anymore anyway?

Here is one story about Oakland's Occupy Protesters:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/05/us/occupy-protesters-stret...

we are back

norte - 2-7-2012 at 03:13 PM

Now that the fact checker is gone, we can post whatever we want. No Facts necessary here!

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Originally posted by JoeJustJoe
Alright alright I made a mistake by talking about the deported criminals from the US jails to Tijuana. But if you ever talk to these guys they speak English and have more in common with the culture above the border than below and are Mexican-American in every sense of the word except they don't have the proper papers.

But the fact is there are many illegal immigrants in Mexico, and most of them are from the US. Mexico has always been a gateway for American citizen criminals on the lamb who seek refuge from the law and just want to hide out, or commit more crimes. Even in the American made movies, many of the movies plots center around the characters making a run to the border. Thelma and Louise, and Shawshank Redemption are a couple of examples of American movies with the goal of making a run to Mexico, and living happily ever after if they could just make it to Mexico.

I still think it's a joke to believe there are only 1624 American ex-pats living Rosarito. How about the the Mexican-American and Americans that only live in Baja part-time and don't bother with the paperwork? How about the the American criminals hiding out in Baja?

Here is a nice article on Mexico's illegal immigration:

Mexico's Illegal Immigrants Hail Mostly From U.S.

GUADALAJARA, Mexico -- It may be the dream of some college seniors to spend a year post-graduation working "under the table" serving pints in some glorious European city. But thousands of American adults living on the lam in Mexico? As in the United States, estimates of the number of illegal immigrants in Mexico are hard to come by. But the majority are ex-pats from the U.S., according to Mexico's federal bureau of immigration. Read the whole story: GlobalPost

http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/mexico/100916/migrants-il...
__________

Here is another Baja write up that claims there are 14,000 thousands ex-pats in Baja, and that "Baja is safe, so come on down." This was written in 2009, and perhaps a little dated, but I'm sure still accurate because only a handful of Americans have been killed in Baja:

http://www.rosarito.org/mediaresources/pressreleases/3pr2009...

mtgoat666 - 2-7-2012 at 04:07 PM

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Originally posted by norte
Now that the fact checker is gone, we can post whatever we want. No Facts necessary here!

Chucky just relied on Google mixed with hot air. In this information age, all of you can be fact checkers too! And I never heard of any shortages of hot air in nomadlandia!

Bajahowodd - 2-7-2012 at 04:20 PM

Just seems to me that had the Bush induced financial meltdown not occurred, most of this back and forth on this forum would be non-existent.

The plethora of half built high rises along the toll road would have been filled with fat, happy gringo ex-pats.

Perhaps it may still happen.

wessongroup - 2-7-2012 at 04:25 PM

Now that's a start ..... "Alright alright I made a mistake" ... :biggrin:

WHO'S perfect ...

wessongroup - 2-7-2012 at 04:34 PM

Not bad ... ridge... not bad... great graphics job...

WOW ... that was fast... down already ... :lol:

Ok, back up again ...

[Edited on 2-7-2012 by wessongroup]

[Edited on 2-7-2012 by wessongroup]

Ahh I don't think you are much fun anymore.

EnsenadaDr - 2-7-2012 at 05:46 PM

I don't drink Buchanan's, in fact I don't drink much of anything..and I certainly don't play with monkeys...maybe it was Rossy!!!

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Originally posted by DENNIS

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Originally posted by EnsenadaDr
, and a bottle of Buchanan´s in her right hand!!

From the sound of things, I'd say it was you. SALUD

Melondeverdad - 2-7-2012 at 07:27 PM

So glad to hear that Mengano has been banned. I compulsively read Borderlandbeat daily, so I'm not someone who has their head in the sand about the narco war in Mexico .... but I don't come here to read about that stuff, especially from someone who thinks that having a google alert on Mexico narco news makes them some sort of expert. Adios Mengano!

Just wonderin"??

EnsenadaDr - 2-7-2012 at 07:40 PM

With all the comments about how glad people are to see Mengano gone..do you think his pride has been hurt to the point that he wouldn't show his face again...even under another mask????

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Originally posted by Melondeverdad
So glad to hear that Mengano has been banned. I compulsively read Borderlandbeat daily, so I'm not someone who has their head in the sand about the narco war in Mexico .... but I don't come here to read about that stuff, especially from someone who thinks that having a google alert on Mexico narco news makes them some sort of expert. Adios Mengano!

wessongroup - 2-7-2012 at 08:09 PM

Like your touch ... lencho

Interesting...

EnsenadaDr - 2-7-2012 at 08:09 PM

Excellent response..please give me time to think about that one....

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Originally posted by lencho

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Originally posted by EnsenadaDr
...do you think his pride has been hurt to the point that he wouldn't show his face again...even under another mask????

Hmm, you think he came here with a desire to be liked? That had not occurred to me...

Ateo - 2-7-2012 at 08:14 PM

Just remember, if you're posting negative about Mengano here, he is monitoring and you'll be investigated when he returns. Kidding but not......

Need the Rules or Reason a Person is Banned

Lobsterman - 2-7-2012 at 08:18 PM

I would like Doug to explain to me what are the rules why people are banned on this site. Also why a warning is not given to that person before they are banned. I know it is his sand box but I'm sure there are other people like me who read this site religiously every day that are just confused by his action(s). There are a few people like Horns, Joe, Goat that say just despictable things about people and goat people on to say more bad things but they are not banned.

Dennis

[Edited on 2-8-2012 by Lobsterman]

BajaBlanca - 2-7-2012 at 08:25 PM

good point, Ateo.

Ateo - 2-7-2012 at 08:31 PM

Look Mengano, can you just leave us alone?

KIDDING.

Actually, would love to know what gets someone banned. I used to think if I used a bad word I'd be on thin ice.

[Edited on 2-8-2012 by ateo]

Ateo - 2-7-2012 at 08:35 PM

Having said what I said above, I'm out of this thread. Just kidding that you are Mengano. Lo siento.

[Edited on 2-8-2012 by ateo]

woody with a view - 2-7-2012 at 08:42 PM

it's like pornography. you'll know when you see it. i think it's called "terms of use."

Lobsterman - 2-7-2012 at 08:43 PM

Let's get one thing straight right now. I'm not mengano. I do not have his intellect or command of languages. I started on this site as howat but changed to Lobsterman since I could not figure out why I could not log in as howat. So check out my prior fishing adventures as howat if you are so interested. Also I'm halibut howie on bloodydecks.

Dennis

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