BajaNomad - JUNE 2012 Gasoline, and Diesel Pump Prices In Pesos

JUNE 2012 Gasoline, and Diesel Pump Prices In Pesos

DavidE - 6-2-2012 at 04:21 PM

MAGNA Green Pump 10.27 liter

PREMIUM Red Pump 10.45 liter

DIESEL Black Pump 10.27 liter

David K - 6-2-2012 at 04:45 PM

Thanks Dah-veed!

So, what is the typical exchange rate at the stations, 13:1 ?

10.27/liter= 38.87/gallon...

If 13.00 pesos per dollar, then Magna is U.S.$2.99/gallon.

DavidE - 6-2-2012 at 05:11 PM

I have not seen a dead president banknote in some months amigo. I haven't used dolares in México in decades. Lo siento mucho.

But I did fill up with premium because the price was so close. In Baja California it wouldn't matter because all the Magna is from the USA. Here in BCS the magna could be refined in México. The Premium is supposed to come from the Shell Oil refinery and have that NITROGEN additive. Read -supposed to- again and again if necessary. I added a bottle of Techron anyway, as it costs about as much as a gallon of fuel.

David K - 6-2-2012 at 05:16 PM

Yes, I am sure you who live in Mexico are on pesos, but the stations typically post their exchange rate for all to see... and since the vast majority of Nomads use dollars as their daily variety of dinero, I thought the added tid-bit of info. would be nice.

DavidE - 6-2-2012 at 06:19 PM

I am going to fill up mañana so I could ask at that one station. I'm sure they all are different, w-a-y different.

acadist - 6-2-2012 at 06:29 PM

Still cheaper than CA yesterday, I use only pesos but thought I saw in Meandro high 12 exchange rate

J.P. - 6-2-2012 at 06:56 PM

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Originally posted by acadist
Still cheaper than CA yesterday, I use only pesos but thought I saw in Meandro high 12 exchange rate

Some would claim they are getting cheated at that rate HUHHHHHHHHHHHH :lol:

Bajaboy - 6-2-2012 at 08:14 PM

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Originally posted by David K
Yes, I am sure you who live in Mexico are on pesos, but the stations typically post their exchange rate for all to see... and since the vast majority of Nomads use dollars as their daily variety of dinero, I thought the added tid-bit of info. would be nice.

When in Mexico, I use pesos. I don't try and calculate how much it costs in dollars to fill up....I only worry about how many pesos it costs. Same holds true for when I buy tacos, beer, milk, diapers, etc.

David K - 6-3-2012 at 09:38 AM

Yes, that is the best way to do purchasing.

However, knowing the amount in dollars before a trip does help planning when you only have a limited amount of dollars, in this economy.

I hope to once again not to have to 'worry' about costs... until then, will try to make a trip south possible.

So, anyone... please tell those who don't have a pocket full of pesos, what is the posted exchange rate at various Pemex stations... Thank you!

DavidE - 6-3-2012 at 12:49 PM

Isn't calculating dollars to pesos and then use existing prices the easiest way to go? 12/14ths is one heck of a lot of difference for the same exact thing. Using dollars is for "What the hell, this is only México" rich Cabo San Lucas temporary snobs, or for day trippers. Today I found 12.85, 13.35, and 13.7 tipo de cambio at three stations in BCS. Which one, therefore is "correct"? What will their exchange rate be next week or next month when the fraquicia's owner's daughter decides to get married and he has to cough up a few extra tens of thousands of pesos, or decides an Oxxo store addition would be the only way to go?

Gringolandia hotels, restaurants, and services operate in dollars. In mi tierra, Dollars are accepted about as frequently as €uros are accepted in Mission Viejo. Picture this in Oceanside: Guy pulls into a Shell station orders 92 liters of Super Shell and whips out €100 to pay for it. Goes inside and tries to pay someone at the cash register wearing a turban. That's about how confusing it is for a Mexican gasolinista with a 6th grade education.

Mula - 6-3-2012 at 12:54 PM

Personally, it really ticks me off when business's here quote their rates in dollars. And truly expect to be paid in dollars.

There are several B & B's on the Sea of Cortez side that do this.

The certainly don't get my business - or referrals - for that matter.

But that's just me.

ncampion - 6-3-2012 at 01:01 PM

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Originally posted by Mula
Personally, it really ticks me off when business's here quote their rates in dollars. And truly expect to be paid in dollars.

There are several B & B's on the Sea of Cortez side that do this.

The certainly don't get my business - or referrals - for that matter.

But that's just me.

I agree, I won't accept any price quote in dollars. If the dollar is strong, we get the advantage, if it goes the other way, they get the advantage. When in Mexico, pay in pesos.

Bob and Susan - 6-3-2012 at 01:16 PM

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Originally posted by ncampion

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I agree, I won't accept any price quote in dollars. If the dollar is strong, we get the advantage, if it goes the other way, they get the advantage. When in Mexico, pay in pesos.

most businesses rather work in pesos not dollars too

but you two are in the minority...

most americans like dollars and understand dollars
most would rather pay in dollars and
carry dollars
so businesses quote in dollars

remember pesos are always accepted

you'd be surprised how many people are confused using pesos

those notes and numbers are just too BIG and colorful :lol:

if you dont want to patronize businesses that take dollars then you are just not the customers they are targeting

im sure most americans enjoy paying in dollars to avoid the hassel of exchanging money
you two are just not in that group :light:

Mula - 6-3-2012 at 01:29 PM

I disagree that all business' accept pesos.

A couple of years ago we wanted to go to a B & B for New Year on Concepcion.

Quoted dollars. Only accepted dollars and no credit cards or pesos.

There are lots and lots of places like that.

Udo - 6-3-2012 at 01:36 PM

Are these prices at the border stations?

Last weekend, from Ensenada south, including Antonio's Baja Cactus', Magna was 9.87. That's almost 1/2 peso in a week!

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Originally posted by DavidE
MAGNA Green Pump 10.27 liter

PREMIUM Red Pump 10.45 liter

DIESEL Black Pump 10.27 liter

DavidE - 6-3-2012 at 03:37 PM

CLUES FROM MY PRIOR POSTS ON THIS THREAD

"But I did fill up with premium because the price was so close. In Baja California it wouldn't matter because all the Magna is from the USA. Here in BCS the magna could be refined in México." (Hint: The words "HERE" and BCS)

"Today I found 12.85, 13.35, and 13.7 tipo de cambio at three stations in BCS"

In this case, "today" means today, the date this is being written 03 June, 2012

I try to make reports like the original post as simple and factual as possible. If it were a border price I would certainly say so. Second hint, all the fuel I have been using for the last three months, has arrived by barge from Topolobampo to La Paz.

DavidE - 6-3-2012 at 03:52 PM

When businesses demand dollars, they are saying MEXICANS NOT WANTED. Very similar to walking into a Mexican supermarket in the USA, and seeing a sign:

Sólo hablamos español

Sólo aceptamos pesos mexicanos

YESTERDAY! Not ten years ago, not last February but 02 June, a Mexican business owner told me "Señor, it is so nice to talk to an Americano en español. So few understand that to we Méxicanos speaking spanish is a sign of respect. Of course tourists cannot do this but I would love to talk to them; they look so friendly. And paying in pesos makes my life easier. Waiting in line for an hour to get real money is not fun".

DOLLARS/ PESOS

J.P. - 6-3-2012 at 04:49 PM

What most dont know or refuse to accept Mexican buisnesses are not falling all over themselfs to accept dollars like they used too. With the new banking laws they are limited as to how many dollars they can deposit at a time and when they raise their prices to accomadate the rise and fall of the Peso people are not readily in acceptance of changing back.

Pacifico - 6-3-2012 at 07:39 PM

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Originally posted by Udo
Are these prices at the border stations?

Last weekend, from Ensenada south, including Antonio's Baja Cactus', Magna was 9.87. That's almost 1/2 peso in a week!

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Originally posted by DavidE
MAGNA Green Pump 10.27 liter

PREMIUM Red Pump 10.45 liter

DIESEL Black Pump 10.27 liter

Speaking of Antonio's Baja Cactus.....The cashier (young guy) tried to screw me when he gave me my change 2 days ago. I called him on it, he got all embarrassed and then gave me the correct change. Not the end of the world as it was only a few bucks, but no longer on my list of reputable places in baja anymore. That list keeps getting shorter all the time! Just be aware....

Mula - 6-4-2012 at 05:10 AM

Udo,
I think there was a price increase on June 1.

DavidE - 6-4-2012 at 08:51 AM

Young men, muchahas, cerveza, musica y dinero....

The temptation can be overwhelming. Just the mere sight of your calculator keeps muchachos who might stray, in line.

"Aqui lo tiene, quinientos pesos" (Here it is five hundred pesos) as I hand them a 500 bill, works too.

When they announce the amount, reply with the amount of money you are handing over as your hand with the cash reaches for theirs. This is extremely polite, and lets them know, you know, what's going on.

FIVE US CENTS A GALLON BETWEEN PREMIUM AND REGULAR MAGNA. I'm going to call the Shell Oil, Deer Park Texas refinery this morning and ask them (key work ASK) if Shell Deer Park is adding their Nitrogen additive to Mexican fuel.

David K - 6-4-2012 at 08:56 AM

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Originally posted by Pacifico

Quote:

Originally posted by Udo
Are these prices at the border stations?

Last weekend, from Ensenada south, including Antonio's Baja Cactus', Magna was 9.87. That's almost 1/2 peso in a week!

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Originally posted by DavidE
MAGNA Green Pump 10.27 liter

PREMIUM Red Pump 10.45 liter

DIESEL Black Pump 10.27 liter

Did you ask to speak with Antonio? Let attendents know you know their boss...
He wants to know of ANY problems Nomads have with his station or motel and does the best he can to fix it. Employees may do things without the employers knowledge, afterall. However, there is a live web cam inside the office of both the Pemex station and motel, and the people involved and money drawers are visible. Please record the time and date of the event.

Pacifico - 6-4-2012 at 09:12 AM

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Originally posted by David K

Quote:

Originally posted by Pacifico

Quote:

Originally posted by Udo
Are these prices at the border stations?

Last weekend, from Ensenada south, including Antonio's Baja Cactus', Magna was 9.87. That's almost 1/2 peso in a week!

Quote:

Originally posted by DavidE
MAGNA Green Pump 10.27 liter

PREMIUM Red Pump 10.45 liter

DIESEL Black Pump 10.27 liter

No, didn't report it to Antonio - didn't have the time. DK, perhaps you could mention it to him?

David K - 6-4-2012 at 09:15 AM

Just do it now, as you know when it happened and can provide more details... Use the San Diego Baja Cactus phone number and leave a message for Antionio to call you back if he isn't there. 619-694-1082

DavidE - 6-5-2012 at 12:38 PM

There is a lot of un-information about México on the internet and I thought a source of corroboration would be appreciated about my offering of information about Mexican fuel. Below is some official information. Hope it helps.

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Curtis represented P.M.I. Services North America, Inc. and P.M.I. Trading Limited, subsidiaries of Petróleos Mexicanos, the Mexican national oil company (Pemex), in the formation of a joint venture with Magellan Midstream Partners, L.P. and certain of its affiliates (Magellan) to construct an 840,000 barrel petroleum products terminal outside of Houston, Texas. P.M.I. Services and Magellan each will own a fifty percent interest in the joint venture company, Texas Frontera LLC, which will build and operate the facility. The terminal's capacity will be leased to P.M.I Trading.As part of the venture, P.M.I. Trading entered into a long-term through-put agreement with Magellan to ship refined products through Magellan's Longhorn Pipeline System. The system runs from Houston to El Paso, Texas, where it connects to a pipeline completed recently by P.M.I. Services that crosses the border into Mexico at Ciudad Juarez. The joint venture enhances Pemex's capacity to supply gasoline from the U.S. to markets in Northern Mexico, including products refined at the 340,000 barrel-per-day fuels refinery in Deer Park, Texas jointly owned by Pemex and Shell Oil Company. The transaction closed on July 27, 2010.The Curtis team was led by partner Daniel Lenihan and counsel Kim Sheikh with support from associates Cristina Ramos in Houston and Oreste Cipolla in New York. Tax matters were handled by partner Eduardo Cukier and associate Kristin Konschnik. Partner Andrew Otis advised on environmental matters.