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DavidE
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JUNE 2012 Gasoline, and Diesel Pump Prices In Pesos
MAGNA Green Pump 10.27 liter
PREMIUM Red Pump 10.45 liter
DIESEL Black Pump 10.27 liter
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David K
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Thanks Dah-veed!
So, what is the typical exchange rate at the stations, 13:1 ?
10.27/liter= 38.87/gallon...
If 13.00 pesos per dollar, then Magna is U.S.$2.99/gallon.
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DavidE
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I have not seen a dead president banknote in some months amigo. I haven't used dolares in México in decades. Lo siento mucho.
But I did fill up with premium because the price was so close. In Baja California it wouldn't matter because all the Magna is from the USA. Here in
BCS the magna could be refined in México. The Premium is supposed to come from the Shell Oil refinery and have that NITROGEN additive. Read -supposed
to- again and again if necessary. I added a bottle of Techron anyway, as it costs about as much as a gallon of fuel.
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David K
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Yes, I am sure you who live in Mexico are on pesos, but the stations typically post their exchange rate for all to see... and since the vast majority
of Nomads use dollars as their daily variety of dinero, I thought the added tid-bit of info. would be nice.
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DavidE
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I am going to fill up mañana so I could ask at that one station. I'm sure they all are different, w-a-y different.
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acadist
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Still cheaper than CA yesterday, I use only pesos but thought I saw in Meandro high 12 exchange rate
Dave
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Quote: | Originally posted by acadist
Still cheaper than CA yesterday, I use only pesos but thought I saw in Meandro high 12 exchange rate |
Some would claim they are getting cheated at that rate HUHHHHHHHHHHHH 
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Bajaboy
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Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Yes, I am sure you who live in Mexico are on pesos, but the stations typically post their exchange rate for all to see... and since the vast majority
of Nomads use dollars as their daily variety of dinero, I thought the added tid-bit of info. would be nice. |
When in Mexico, I use pesos. I don't try and calculate how much it costs in dollars to fill up....I only worry about how many pesos it costs. Same
holds true for when I buy tacos, beer, milk, diapers, etc.
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David K
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Yes, that is the best way to do purchasing.
However, knowing the amount in dollars before a trip does help planning when you only have a limited amount of dollars, in this economy.
I hope to once again not to have to 'worry' about costs... until then, will try to make a trip south possible.
So, anyone... please tell those who don't have a pocket full of pesos, what is the posted exchange rate at various Pemex stations... Thank you!
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DavidE
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Isn't calculating dollars to pesos and then use existing prices the easiest way to go? 12/14ths is one heck of a lot of difference for the same exact
thing. Using dollars is for "What the hell, this is only México" rich Cabo San Lucas temporary snobs, or for day trippers. Today I found 12.85, 13.35,
and 13.7 tipo de cambio at three stations in BCS. Which one, therefore is "correct"? What will their exchange rate be next week or next month when the
fraquicia's owner's daughter decides to get married and he has to cough up a few extra tens of thousands of pesos, or decides an Oxxo store addition
would be the only way to go?
Gringolandia hotels, restaurants, and services operate in dollars. In mi tierra, Dollars are accepted about as frequently as €uros are accepted in
Mission Viejo. Picture this in Oceanside: Guy pulls into a Shell station orders 92 liters of Super Shell and whips out €100 to pay for it. Goes inside
and tries to pay someone at the cash register wearing a turban. That's about how confusing it is for a Mexican gasolinista with a 6th grade education.
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Mula
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Personally, it really ticks me off when business's here quote their rates in dollars. And truly expect to be paid in dollars.
There are several B & B's on the Sea of Cortez side that do this.
The certainly don't get my business - or referrals - for that matter.
But that's just me.
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Quote: | Originally posted by Mula
Personally, it really ticks me off when business's here quote their rates in dollars. And truly expect to be paid in dollars.
There are several B & B's on the Sea of Cortez side that do this.
The certainly don't get my business - or referrals - for that matter.
But that's just me. |
I agree, I won't accept any price quote in dollars. If the dollar is strong, we get the advantage, if it goes the other way, they get the advantage.
When in Mexico, pay in pesos.
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Bob and Susan
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Quote: | Originally posted by ncampion
Quote: | Originally posted by Mula
Personally, it really ticks me off when business's here quote their rates in dollars. And truly expect to be paid in dollars.
There are several B & B's on the Sea of Cortez side that do this.
The certainly don't get my business - or referrals - for that matter.
But that's just me. |
I agree, I won't accept any price quote in dollars. If the dollar is strong, we get the advantage, if it goes the other way, they get the advantage.
When in Mexico, pay in pesos. |
most businesses rather work in pesos not dollars too
but you two are in the minority...
most americans like dollars and understand dollars
most would rather pay in dollars and
carry dollars
so businesses quote in dollars
remember pesos are always accepted
you'd be surprised how many people are confused using pesos
those notes and numbers are just too BIG and colorful
if you dont want to patronize businesses that take dollars then you are just not the customers they are targeting
im sure most americans enjoy paying in dollars to avoid the hassel of exchanging money
you two are just not in that group
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Mula
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I disagree that all business' accept pesos.
A couple of years ago we wanted to go to a B & B for New Year on Concepcion.
Quoted dollars. Only accepted dollars and no credit cards or pesos.
There are lots and lots of places like that.
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Are these prices at the border stations?
Last weekend, from Ensenada south, including Antonio's Baja Cactus', Magna was 9.87. That's almost 1/2 peso in a week!
Quote: | Originally posted by DavidE
MAGNA Green Pump 10.27 liter
PREMIUM Red Pump 10.45 liter
DIESEL Black Pump 10.27 liter |
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DavidE
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CLUES FROM MY PRIOR POSTS ON THIS THREAD
"But I did fill up with premium because the price was so close. In Baja California it wouldn't matter because all the Magna is from the USA. Here in
BCS the magna could be refined in México." (Hint: The words "HERE" and BCS)
"Today I found 12.85, 13.35, and 13.7 tipo de cambio at three stations in BCS"
In this case, "today" means today, the date this is being written 03 June, 2012
I try to make reports like the original post as simple and factual as possible. If it were a border price I would certainly say so. Second hint, all
the fuel I have been using for the last three months, has arrived by barge from Topolobampo to La Paz.
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DavidE
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When businesses demand dollars, they are saying MEXICANS NOT WANTED. Very similar to walking into a Mexican supermarket in the USA, and seeing a sign:
Sólo hablamos español
Sólo aceptamos pesos mexicanos
YESTERDAY! Not ten years ago, not last February but 02 June, a Mexican business owner told me "Señor, it is so nice to talk to an Americano en
español. So few understand that to we Méxicanos speaking spanish is a sign of respect. Of course tourists cannot do this but I would love to talk to
them; they look so friendly. And paying in pesos makes my life easier. Waiting in line for an hour to get real money is not fun".
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DOLLARS/ PESOS
What most dont know or refuse to accept Mexican buisnesses are not falling all over themselfs to accept dollars like they used too. With the new
banking laws they are limited as to how many dollars they can deposit at a time and when they raise their prices to accomadate the rise and fall of
the Peso people are not readily in acceptance of changing back.
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Quote: | Originally posted by Udo
Are these prices at the border stations?
Last weekend, from Ensenada south, including Antonio's Baja Cactus', Magna was 9.87. That's almost 1/2 peso in a week!
Quote: | Originally posted by DavidE
MAGNA Green Pump 10.27 liter
PREMIUM Red Pump 10.45 liter
DIESEL Black Pump 10.27 liter | |
Speaking of Antonio's Baja Cactus.....The cashier (young guy) tried to screw me when he gave me my change 2 days ago. I called him on it, he got all
embarrassed and then gave me the correct change. Not the end of the world as it was only a few bucks, but no longer on my list of reputable places in
baja anymore. That list keeps getting shorter all the time! Just be aware....
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Mula
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Udo,
I think there was a price increase on June 1.
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