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Early (very early alert) Tin Boat Regatta 3 Gonzaga Bay

dizzyspots - 6-11-2012 at 08:54 PM

Early warning for our 3rd Annual Gonzaga Bay Tin Boat Regatta


Fri Oct 5 thru Wed Oct 9


All modes of water transport welcome!
Plan on fishing, boating, kayaking, snorkle, aswin
Good chow...Good friends

More details to follow

[Edited on 6-15-2012 by dizzyspots]

[Edited on 6-15-2012 by dizzyspots]

cj5orion - 6-12-2012 at 07:21 AM

With any luck ?
I'll be here Sept/Oct this year !

dizzyspots - 6-12-2012 at 02:28 PM

Wouldnt that be a treat...cold cervezas...on the beach at Gonzaga...and I'll buy!!

desertcpl - 6-12-2012 at 03:57 PM

how about all you Tin boat people wade in here

what makes a good Tin boat for Baja

size, make, equiptment, engine, trailer, ect

yakyak2010 - 6-12-2012 at 04:49 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by desertcpl
how about all you Tin boat people wade in here

what makes a good Tin boat for Baja

size, make, equiptment, engine, trailer, ect

12' to 14' Valco or Gregor (I like the welded Gregor) with at least 15hp.
big thing is launching. Many places you'll need 4 wheel drive or some sort of wheels on the boat to launch over soft sand. From past experience if you have engine trouble you might be better off with a 2 stroke.

Barry A. - 6-12-2012 at 05:57 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by yakyak2010
Quote:
Originally posted by desertcpl
how about all you Tin boat people wade in here

what makes a good Tin boat for Baja

size, make, equiptment, engine, trailer, ect

12' to 14' Valco or Gregor (I like the welded Gregor) with at least 15hp.
big thing is launching. Many places you'll need 4 wheel drive or some sort of wheels on the boat to launch over soft sand. From past experience if you have engine trouble you might be better off with a 2 stroke.


Bingo!!!!

I have used both---------12 Foot Valco w/ 10 horse Johnson 2-stroke when out by myself, and 14' Gregor w/ 15 horse 2-stroke when 2 of us go out. I loved both, but had more confidence in the welded Gregor.

Barry

desertcpl - 6-12-2012 at 06:10 PM

what about a Bimini, do you prefer a 2 stroke over a 4

how about the trailer,, as I am assuming the reason you want a small Tin boat is the you can launch it on the beach
( and yes lets just make a 4X4 a given)
and other must have equipment

dizzyspots - 6-12-2012 at 08:03 PM

Mine: Valco 12ft....20hp Johnson...picked a tinnie back when the road to Gonzaga was a wreck...threw the Tinnie on the roof rack of the FJ Cruiser...now throw it on top of the Tundra....WHEELS...built a set of nice fat "Baja" beach wheels...search bajanomad or bdoutdoors for a link to the build...key here is that the wheels are mounted mid-ship...NOT on the transom...balance point was selected with boat LOADED..= no lifting..I can lift the bow of my loaded boat with 1 hand..then it rolls on soft , fat garden tractor style rear wheels...best investment for this boat



Now...Go find a boat and join us....

Barry A. - 6-12-2012 at 08:20 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by dizzyspots
Mine: Valco 12ft....20hp Johnson...picked a tinnie back when the road to Gonzaga was a wreck...threw the Tinnie on the roof rack of the FJ Cruiser...now throw it on top of the Tundra....WHEELS...built a set of nice fat "Baja" beach wheels...search bajanomad or bdoutdoors for a link to the build...key here is that the wheels are mounted mid-ship...NOT on the transom...balance point was selected with boat LOADED..= no lifting..I can lift the bow of my loaded boat with 1 hand..then it rolls on soft , fat garden tractor style rear wheels...best investment for this boat



Now...Go find a boat and join us....


I like your ideas on the "over beach" rollers. My 2 boats, also cartopped, run over the beach on 2 dual-tire'ed commercially made transome wheels, which work good as far as I am concerned. They are made by the same outfit that built my Eide car-top boat loader. With that boat loader, I can operate solo if I had to--------but normally there was a partner to help me load the boat. Actually, even without the "boat-loader" I could strain and load the boat myself on top of my Callen Camper shell. It all worked sweet!!!

On edit--------I never had a bimini, but that is an excellent idea, and I do have one on my Boston Whaler which I DON'T take south of the border.

Barry

[Edited on 6-13-2012 by Barry A.]

yakyak2010 - 6-12-2012 at 08:20 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by dizzyspots
Mine: Valco 12ft....20hp Johnson...picked a tinnie back when the road to Gonzaga was a wreck...threw the Tinnie on the roof rack of the FJ Cruiser...now throw it on top of the Tundra....WHEELS...built a set of nice fat "Baja" beach wheels...search bajanomad or bdoutdoors for a link to the build...key here is that the wheels are mounted mid-ship...NOT on the transom...balance point was selected with boat LOADED..= no lifting..I can lift the bow of my loaded boat with 1 hand..then it rolls on soft , fat garden tractor style rear wheels...best investment for this boat



Now...Go find a boat and join us....


Amen to that. dizzyspots wheels work great

desertcpl - 6-13-2012 at 07:04 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by dizzyspots
Mine: Valco 12ft....20hp Johnson...picked a tinnie back when the road to Gonzaga was a wreck...threw the Tinnie on the roof rack of the FJ Cruiser...now throw it on top of the Tundra....WHEELS...built a set of nice fat "Baja" beach wheels...search bajanomad or bdoutdoors for a link to the build...key here is that the wheels are mounted mid-ship...NOT on the transom...balance point was selected with boat LOADED..= no lifting..I can lift the bow of my loaded boat with 1 hand..then it rolls on soft , fat garden tractor style rear wheels...best investment for this boat




how about some pics









































Now...Go find a boat and join us....


[Edited on 6-13-2012 by desertcpl]

desertcpl - 6-13-2012 at 07:12 AM

dont know what happened on my last post

but also do you have any pics from previous Tin boat regattas

SFandH - 6-13-2012 at 07:26 AM

I have an old (1963) 14 foot riveted aluminum Starcraft that I really like. No leaks, loose rivets. It's my third boat. Foredeck with a steering wheel and remote controls. It used to have a windshield. Traditional runabout style. I've replaced the seats with simple painted wood bench seats and loose cushions that can be used as personal floatation devices.

Max HP is 40 HP. It had an old 65 Merc on it when I bought it that I used for a few months before getting rid of it. Now looking for a relatively new 30 to 40 horse. I might buy a new 2 stroke Yamaha in Ensenada.

Any thoughts about that idea?

[Edited on 6-13-2012 by SFandH]

Skipjack Joe - 6-13-2012 at 07:32 AM

Picture of tinboat being launched with non transom wheels.


yakyak2010 - 6-13-2012 at 07:40 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by desertcpl
dont know what happened on my last post

but also do you have any pics from previous Tin boat regattas

http://youtu.be/R1EWQ3xANPs

desertcpl - 6-13-2012 at 07:41 AM

I have asked this question before, but didnt get an answer

why do you and others think a 2 stroke is better than a 4 for a tin boat?

yakyak2010 - 6-13-2012 at 08:11 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by desertcpl
I have asked this question before, but didnt get an answer

why do you and others think a 2 stroke is better than a 4 for a tin boat?

Easier for the locals to work on, less to go wrong. But to be honest I'm a 60's dirtbiker and I just believe 2 strokes rule'

two strokers

captkw - 6-13-2012 at 08:26 AM

TWO STROKERS RULE !!!! I KNOW !! THATS WHAT I DO FOR A LIVING AND CAN TELL YOU THAT FOUR STROKE ARE NOT "MUY DURO"AND HAVE A LOT MORE PROBLEMS..K & T :cool:

[Edited on 6-13-2012 by captkw]

wsdunc - 6-13-2012 at 08:29 AM

For launching I use 4 inflatable boat fenders as rollers, when one pops out the back run around and put it in front. Haul the rollers in the boat, or leave them on the beach. Launched a 15' Gregor that way for years. It still requires some muscle and at least a couple of people, the wheels at the balance point sound good.

SFandH - 6-13-2012 at 08:43 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by desertcpl
I have asked this question before, but didnt get an answer

why do you and others think a 2 stroke is better than a 4 for a tin boat?


I may be wrong, but aren't they significantly cheaper to buy and maintain? They certainly have fewer moving parts. Plus the power to weight ratio is higher with 2 strokes and I want to use max HP or close to it.

I know 4 strokes can be more fuel efficient.

I also know that the gap between 2 and 4 strokes on all these issues, except the number of moving parts, is narrowing.

dizzyspots - 6-14-2012 at 01:01 AM

the pics posted by skipjack are the same wheels that i use...GREAT!
2 stroke vs 4 = less weight to lug from truck bed to boat

woody with a view - 6-14-2012 at 06:36 AM

can i see a pic of the boat on your tundra? i'd love to thrown mine up top but my thule racks on the snugtop don't seem strong enough for when a semi truck blows by going the other way. maybe i'm wrong. lemme see your setup!


motor goes in the truck. pull up to the edge of the water, lift boat off trailer (2 people is best) into the water, place motor on boat and viola!

dizzyspots - 6-14-2012 at 02:25 PM

cant figure out how to export from my facebook acct... Mike Nervik look in the pics there...sorry im a computer dummy

tin boat on Tundra

dizzyspots - 6-14-2012 at 02:37 PM


tin boat on Tundra

dizzyspots - 6-14-2012 at 02:40 PM

see if this works

woody with a view - 6-14-2012 at 04:16 PM

u2u