BajaNomad

Nissan Frontier

TMW - 9-16-2012 at 01:11 PM

What size tires do you plan to run.

TMW - 9-16-2012 at 01:31 PM

Do you have the V6 engine and automatic tranny?

TMW - 9-16-2012 at 01:47 PM

Do you have a time frame as to when your first race will be. I'd like to come down and look it over. Sound like an interesting project.

I have a friend who raced class 8 and decided on building a new class 8. The economy kind of put it on the shelf (he runs a plumbing business) but he's back at and maybe next year he'll race it.

Ken Cooke - 9-16-2012 at 09:17 PM

If you run a 32" tire, your gearing won't be too tall, and your parts will withstand the inevitable Baja beating that comes with the territory. Maybe that will allow you to run your stock differentials. Good luck!

Ken Cooke - 9-16-2012 at 09:59 PM

With the truck all race-prepped, covered in Baja stickers, you'll surely remember.:yes:

David K - 9-16-2012 at 11:35 PM

Why a four wheel drive if you are racing this truck? There can't be very many Class 7 or any racing trucks with 4WD, are there?

If there is a class that is only 4WD (Class 3?) that you can compete in, great! I do love 4WD... but that is for slower driving... to save the parts and crawl over tough stuff.

Tell me more Glenn, please!

David K - 9-17-2012 at 12:00 AM

Sweet... Speaking of Ivan... Maybe have the fellow's at Stewart's Raceworks go over it to make sure it is a solid as possible?

Our son Josh is one of them!:light:

David K - 9-17-2012 at 12:26 AM

Oh no, I understand... I admire you and this project... very much. I know you have wanted to do it since almost as long as I have known you (12-13 years)!

If you get a corporate sponsor... or win the lotto, then have Raceworks give it a once over... Many small teams actually use the shop, not all are big bucks.

rts551 - 10-3-2012 at 07:47 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by whistler
Parts arrived today from PRG Products.Good quality!


Great news Glenn. Maybe taking a look at the trucks in Nov will provide some ideas. (Not the big budget trucks, the ones at the end of the line so to speak)

Hope to see you soon

rts551 - 10-3-2012 at 07:55 AM

Kevin may run the 1000 with a quad team from Santa Rosalia and Guerrero Negro if He can take the time off from school. We are prepping the KTM for a run in the 250 next March.

rts551 - 10-3-2012 at 01:11 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by whistler
Ralph,that would be great if Kev could race in the 1000.
Hey, you are getting pretty close to ssn time.Don't matter.Obama is going to tax you 1% a whole lot more.
applied. The entire congress is going to tax me more (Obama does not pass tax laws)...and since I am in the 53% that pay taxes, that hurts.

TMW - 10-11-2012 at 12:33 PM

Well get to work, we want to see the finished product. I'm thinking of getting a set of Deaver springs for my Tacoma.

TMW - 12-14-2012 at 10:44 AM

Don't stop, things are coming together, it just takes time.

David K - 12-14-2012 at 03:05 PM

Good job Glenn!

David K - 2-10-2013 at 06:26 PM

Sweet!

David K - 3-31-2013 at 04:19 PM

That is a thing of beauty Glenn!

Frank - 4-1-2013 at 06:00 AM

I think it's going to work Glenn :yes: Great looking build

TMW - 6-28-2013 at 07:24 AM

Excellent job.

TMW - 8-5-2013 at 11:09 AM

It's coming together. You going to use single shocks on the rear?

wessongroup - 8-5-2013 at 01:03 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by whistler
Thanks Ken.I just want to finish the race in the alloted time.Of course by the time I finished this rig(if ever) I might not remember why I built it.


Ya "there" yet ... :biggrin::biggrin:

Super thread ... nice seeing it come together ... keep it on the wheels

TMW - 8-21-2013 at 01:51 PM

I was under the impression that putting one shock in front of the axle and one behide reduced axle wrap. Probaly at an angle. On Tacoma World someone said by using a U bolt clamp on the leaf springs would reduce axle wrap.

TMW - 9-9-2013 at 11:47 AM

Nice work.

I'm not familar with the Nissan rear brakes, are they disc or are you putting after market disc on?

monoloco - 9-9-2013 at 06:08 PM

That's going to be one sweet Baja ride! Keep up the posts

TMW - 9-12-2013 at 06:09 PM

Are you planning on one or two spares? What size tire will you run.

David K - 10-1-2013 at 11:21 PM

Nice work Glenn...

PaulW - 10-2-2013 at 04:29 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by David K
Why a four wheel drive if you are racing this truck? There can't be very many Class 7 or any racing trucks with 4WD, are there?

If there is a class that is only 4WD (Class 3?) that you can compete in, great! I do love 4WD... but that is for slower driving... to save the parts and crawl over tough stuff.

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The exception. 1999 Baja 1000 class 8 winner was a 4wd F150.
Score class 3 is a dying class, but the remaining competitors are running 37" tires and over 500 Hp. Class 7 is less expensive with more reasonable rigs.
Anyway 4wd is great for finishing, but will always be slower than 2wd, The race is against the course anyway. Just finishing is a win.
Good to see a nice build.
PW

David K - 10-2-2013 at 10:30 AM

Glenn, is this still being built for racing or just fun/ prerunning?

Paul, back when I was involved more in SCORE, Class 8 was 2WD only. 4WDs were only Class 3 and Class 4 (stock and modified 4WDs, later became short and long wheelbase 4WDs). Class 4 was dropped.

There are so many classes and they have been changing, I would love to see the current list describing them. When I was in the 1000, Class 6 was production 2WD, water-cooled, passenger sedans and passenger pickups (Ranchero/ El Camino). Fun class with an Edsel, Saab, Ford Fairlane, Datsun, AMC Hornet, etc.

David K - 10-2-2013 at 10:56 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by whistler
I want to race it but more just to finish.It really isn't being built to any class.I will enter it in "Sportsman" .Needed an excuse to build the thing .


You do have the latest SCORE rulebook, so at least the safety mandates are addressed? I imaging it would be one of the Class 7 trucks, but as I mentioned, I am not sure about SCORE classes anymore.

TMW - 10-2-2013 at 11:25 AM

SCORE Classes and Vehicle Numbers for 2013:

40 Pro and 7 Sportsman classes

Class Levels:
PRO LEVEL 1
Trophy Truck – Veh #1-99 (Trophy Truck Unlimited)
Class 1 – Veh #100-199(Unlimited single or two-seaters)

PRO LEVEL 2
TT Spec – Veh #840-848 (Super 8-unlimited trucks/sport utility vehicles, stock, sealed V-8s)
8 – Veh #885-899 (Full-sized two-wheel drive trucks)
4000 – Veh# 4000-4099 (Class 4limited open-wheel car, 2.2/2.4-Liter Ecotec engine)
4400 – Veh# 4400-4099 (Rock Crawler)
5 Unlimited – Veh #500-599 (Unlimited Baja Bugs)
12 SCORE Lites – Veh #1200-1299 (HDRA Lites-Limited single-1776cc-or two-seaters-1835cc)
Heavy Metal – Veh #8000-8099 (Open Production Trucks, V8 engines)
10 – Veh #1000-1099 (Single or two-seaters limited engine)
3 – Veh #300-399 (Short wheelbase 4X4)
3000 – Veh #3000-3099 (Class 78-2,unlimited mini-truck, 2.2/2.4-Liter Ecotec engine)
2 – Veh #200-249 (Unlimited open-wheel, car/truck, 3.6-Liter Turbo or supercharged)
2.D – Veh #250-299 (Unlimited open-wheel, car/truck, 3.6-Liter Diesel Turbo or supercharged)
1/2-1600 – Veh #1600-1699 (single or two-seaters to 1600cc)
Trophy Lite – Veh #6000-6099 (Unlimited Mini-Truck, 2.2/2.4-Liter Ecotec engine)
6100 – Veh #6100-6199 (Unlimited, Sealed V6)
7200 – Veh #7200-7299 (SCORE Class 6 Open Production – Unlimited)
7 – Veh #700-739 (Open Production – Mini Pick-Ups)
Pro Truck – Veh #1350-1399 (Limited Production Trucks)
Stock Mini – Veh #760-799 (Stock mini trucks)


PRO LEVEL 3
11 – Veh #1100-1199 (Stock VW Sedans)
1700 JeepSpeed – Veh #1700-1799 (Jeep Speed Challenge)
3700 JeepSpeed – Veh #3700-3799 (Jeep Speed Cup)
5-1600 Ltd – Veh #500-549 (1600cc Baja Bugs)
7sx – Veh #740-759 (Modified, stock mini-trucks)
9 – Veh #900-999 (Short wheelbase, single or two-seaters)
Stock Full – Veh #885-899 (Stock full-sized trucks)
19 – Stock UTV – Veh #1900-1949


SPORTSMAN LEVEL 4
Baja Challenge – Veh #BC1-BC99 (Spec open wheel cars)
2000 Ltd Truck – Veh #2000-2099
1400 Unlimited Open Truck – Veh #1400-1499
1500 Unlimited Buggy – Veh #1500-1599
19 – Unlimited UTV – Veh #1950-1999


PRO MOTO & ATV –
“Ironman” (Solo)
20 (400cc or less) 150x-199x
21 (450cc or less) 100x-149x
22 (450cc or more) 1x-49x
30 (Riders over 30 years old) 300x-349x
40 (Riders over 40 years old) 400x-449x
50 (Riders over 50 years old) 500x-549x
60 (Riders over 60 years old) 600x-649x
ATV – 24 (450cc or less) 100a-149a
ATV – 25 (450cc or more) 1a-49a
ATV – 26 (Limited Utility) 200a-219a


SPORTSMAN MOTO & ATV
M/C< (450cc or less) 200x-249x
M/C> (450cc or more) 250x-299x
Sportsman ATV 50a-99a

[Edited on 10-2-2013 by TW]

TMW - 10-2-2013 at 11:31 AM

I understand there will be changes in 2014 especially in the motorcycle/ATV classes as to engine size. Right now a 450cc motorcycle engine can be used in every class except 20. A 450cc engine from all the major manufactures is 249cc. I've heard they will change to an over and under 400cc size and drop class 20.

David K - 10-2-2013 at 04:39 PM

Thank you Tom... that list makes my head dizzy! How can anyone who finishes make coin with so many divisions of entries?

Back in the day, it was 50% payback per class*. If there were too few entries in any one class, they would combine classes so the racers could make some money if they finished in the top positions.

* 20 vehicles in a class, entry fee of $500, $10,000 would be divided half to SCORE and half ($5,000) to the top finishers... 1st place may get $2500, 2nd place gets $1,500, 3rd $800, 4th $200. Or, something like that...

More money would be earned by using products from companies that made products and paid winners to use them. Contingency!

rts551 - 10-2-2013 at 05:12 PM

you don't race to make "coin".

So, Glenn, where do you think that puts you

[Edited on 10-3-2013 by rts551]

David K - 10-2-2013 at 05:16 PM

Not any more... lol.

David K - 10-3-2013 at 09:23 AM

Yup and gas was... What do winners get now?

TMW - 10-3-2013 at 12:43 PM

Some classes at some races have side bets. Even so you'll never make enough to cover expenses, probably not even the entry fee. Sponsors and either lots of them or ones with deep pockets.

In the early 90s we spent $75,000 a year to race class 21 motorcycles in SCORE and ran open class in the two Baja Promotion, the desert and GP series, along with a couple of select races like Mammoth Mtn motocross and Baja Supercross. We got free tires and oil and 50-60% off on almost everything else like helmets and riding gear, 40% off on Trick Racing gas. Not much discount on the bikes, but OK. We had 4 bikes. 2 KX250s, 1 CR250 and 1 KX500. The riders used 4 strokes to pre-run on. The boys won 2 SCORE championship and 3 Baja Promotion Championships

willyAirstream - 10-3-2013 at 04:06 PM

Even the Norra 1000is expensive. Dreaming...... I did a budget to run it and it would be a minimum of 10Gs, spares, entry fees, pit crew for gas only, tir e s, etc etc.

Frank - 10-4-2013 at 10:06 AM

Let me know when your ready for a test run Glenn. Nate and I will come out and do some photography for you.

jimgrms - 10-5-2013 at 10:09 AM

A quick way to be a millionair !is to have 10 mil and start racing cars