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Simple medical procedure

castaway$ - 10-16-2012 at 10:25 AM

Heading to Baja in December for 6 weeks and I am considering having a somewhat simple procedure while there, removal of a nasal polyp. My ENT here wants $8,000 to remove a skin tag from my nose! I have asked all of the questions and it seems like a simple straight forward procedure- cut the skin tag out and stop the bleeding.
We will be all over Baja so I'm looking for suggestions on safe facilities to do this procedure, any recommendations?

EnsenadaDr - 10-16-2012 at 10:57 AM

As always, I recommend Seguro Popular for Americans, which is free in Ensenada. Once examined by a primary physician, you can be referred to an ear, nose and throat doctor that will do the procedure free of charge. But any certified credentialed ear, nose or throat private pay doctor (known as an otolaringologo in Mexico) can do it. I know of several good OTL's in Ensenada. You also might try steroidal nose sprays first which might shrink the polyp. It can be also done as a local procedure depending on the size of the polyp for a few US hundred dollars or less.
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Originally posted by castaway$
Heading to Baja in December for 6 weeks and I am considering having a somewhat simple procedure while there, removal of a nasal polyp. My ENT here wants $8,000 to remove a skin tag from my nose! I have asked all of the questions and it seems like a simple straight forward procedure- cut the skin tag out and stop the bleeding.
We will be all over Baja so I'm looking for suggestions on safe facilities to do this procedure, any recommendations?

DENNIS - 10-16-2012 at 11:02 AM

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Originally posted by castaway$
We will be all over Baja so I'm looking for suggestions on safe facilities to do this procedure, any recommendations?


Drop by my place and I'll do it for a kilo of big shrimp.
Dr. DENNIS .....at your service. :biggrin:

Mula - 10-16-2012 at 11:08 AM

Gal who plays soccer and has had her nose broken 3 times in 21 years of life has a nose job with the passages cleared out last December by Dr. Camarillo - the ear nose and throat Dr. - in Constitucion - for 30,000 pesos - and was delighted with the results.

EnsenadaDr - 10-16-2012 at 11:37 AM

yes, generally a "nose job" runs around $3000 American dollars.

luv2fish - 10-16-2012 at 11:42 AM

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Originally posted by DENNIS
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Originally posted by castaway$
We will be all over Baja so I'm looking for suggestions on safe facilities to do this procedure, any recommendations?


Drop by my place and I'll do it for a kilo of big shrimp.
Dr. DENNIS .....at your service. :biggrin:


Dr. Dennis, I think you're going toooo tooooo low. He's in Oregon, so you should ask for a couple pounds of that wild salmon from the Columbia River, and your shrimp. I'm just saying...

Bob and Susan - 10-16-2012 at 11:42 AM

removing "those things" from the nose is very dangerous...

the membrane in the nose is really thin and close to the brain

i wouldnt skimp on the doctor

they use something called the "nibbler"
and they need to put a bannana sized sponge in there for several weeks to heal the repair

it's not as easy as it seems

the "membrane" to the brain...

EnsenadaDr - 10-16-2012 at 11:52 AM

Actually it is a very thin bone known as the ethmoid bone. Sometimes they use a metal snare, which is like a very sharp noose that they tighten around the stem of the polyp, and pull it out. Other times there are many little polyps that need to be scraped out of the nasal cavity. Then a patient would need general anesthesia. I assisted in many nasal operations in the Military Hospital with the specialist, generally if you have the right tools and have alot of patience, there is no danger, but blood pressure during extensive nasal surgery needs to be brought extremely low by an anesthesiologist, and monitored constantly, to keep bleeding to a minimum. I think the best way to go is using steroid spray and see if that works first.
Quote:
Originally posted by Bob and Susan
removing "those things" from the nose is very dangerous...

the membrane in the nose is really thin and close to the brain

i wouldnt skimp on the doctor

they use something called the "nibbler"
and they need to put a bannana sized sponge in there for several weeks to heal the repair

it's not as easy as it seems

Bob and Susan - 10-16-2012 at 11:58 AM

its dangerous as hell and the "bastards" could grow back

go to a specialist!!!

castaway$ - 10-16-2012 at 11:58 AM

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Originally posted by DENNIS
Quote:
Originally posted by castaway$
We will be all over Baja so I'm looking for suggestions on safe facilities to do this procedure, any recommendations?


Drop by my place and I'll do it for a kilo of big shrimp.
Dr. DENNIS .....at your service. :biggrin:

Do you use cheap tequila for the pain killer or the good stuff?

DENNIS - 10-16-2012 at 12:02 PM

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Originally posted by castaway$
Do you use cheap tequila for the pain killer or the good stuff?


Nothing but the best in my garage........er......I mean OR.

castaway$ - 10-16-2012 at 12:02 PM

I have been using the steroids and it doesn't work. I have been examined by my ENT and there is only 1 polyp. I have had two sinus surgeries in the past for Rhino somethng something so I,m not really afraid of the procedure, if I could get some nail clippers up to it I'd cut the thing off myself and call it good.

fandango - 10-16-2012 at 12:04 PM

The polyp needs to be biopsied. It can be a type that can become cancerous and does grow back. Also, if it is attached to that bone, it is not as simple a procedure to remove.
This polyp can also be in the sinus cavity under your eye. Not as "simple" a procedure to remove from there.

castaway$ - 10-16-2012 at 12:14 PM

If I shine a light and I can see it it's not real deep in the nasal cavity. I have always heard that "if" you go to the right doctors in Baja they are very competent and thats who I am looking for, not Dennis the garage doc with a pair of scissors and a soldering iron to stop the bleeding. Sorry Dennis, I might still give you some shrimp for the laugh :yes:

EnsenadaDr - 10-16-2012 at 06:25 PM

Don't let Dennis fool you, he can't stand the sight of blood, but according to M, he is crustaceous on the outside, but pussycat creamy on the inside...sounds a little risque to me!!

bajaguy - 10-16-2012 at 07:08 PM

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Originally posted by castaway$
If I shine a light and I can see it it's not real deep in the nasal cavity. I have always heard that "if" you go to the right doctors in Baja they are very competent and thats who I am looking for, not Dennis the garage doc with a pair of scissors and a soldering iron to stop the bleeding. Sorry Dennis, I might still give you some shrimp for the laugh :yes:





Get a Dremel tool, a mirror, a flashlight and chug some Jack Daniels.....better to do some things yourself :lol:

DENNIS - 10-16-2012 at 07:11 PM

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Originally posted by bajaguy


Get a Dremel tool, a mirror, a flashlight and chug some Jack Daniels.....better to do some things yourself :lol:


I have a Dremel Tool and it actually says in the directions that it shouldn't be used for dental work. :o

Skipjack Joe - 10-16-2012 at 10:15 PM

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Originally posted by castaway$
I have been using the steroids and it doesn't work. I have been examined by my ENT and there is only 1 polyp. I have had two sinus surgeries in the past for Rhino somethng something so I,m not really afraid of the procedure, if I could get some nail clippers up to it I'd cut the thing off myself and call it good.


I know just the guy to remove your polyp.

willardguy - 10-16-2012 at 10:27 PM

dont know if he does polyp's but for a cute nose and double D's this guy's hard to beat!

Buenrostro??? Got to be kidding...

EnsenadaDr - 10-16-2012 at 11:17 PM

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Originally posted by willardguy
dont know if he does polyp's but for a cute nose and double D's this guy's hard to beat!

mtgoat666 - 10-17-2012 at 06:43 AM

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Originally posted by castaway$
Heading to Baja in December for 6 weeks and I am considering having a somewhat simple procedure while there, removal of a nasal polyp.


it ain't "simple," you sure you want to choose your surgeon/hospital based on price? try steroids for a while, then when obamacare kicks in you should be able to buy affordable insurance in USA w/o exclusion of pre-existing conditions,... and get procedure done in a good hospital in USA.

if you do oral steroids to knock it down in size, followed by nasal mist steroids, you can keep polyps under control for a while, until you manage to get insurance.

EnsenadaDr - 10-17-2012 at 07:05 AM

He said the steroids aren't working Goat, aren't you reading? I'd like to know myself when Obamacare supposedly is going to kick in myself...what was the exact date? Or is he just using it as leverage so he can get re=elected? He signed it into law a few years back...so what's the hold up?
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Originally posted by mtgoat666
Quote:
Originally posted by castaway$
Heading to Baja in December for 6 weeks and I am considering having a somewhat simple procedure while there, removal of a nasal polyp.


it ain't "simple," you sure you want to choose your surgeon/hospital based on price? try steroids for a while, then when obamacare kicks in you should be able to buy affordable insurance in USA w/o exclusion of pre-existing conditions,... and get procedure done in a good hospital in USA.

if you do oral steroids to knock it down in size, followed by nasal mist steroids, you can keep polyps under control for a while, until you manage to get insurance.

BajaBlanca - 10-17-2012 at 07:40 AM

a friend of mine has already used obamacare so it must be in effect already ....???

QUOTE FROM MY FRIEND:

Looking forward to tonight's debate I want to share how OBAMA HELPED ME…2006 I got really sick and NEEDED SURGERY…I had no health insurance…Bush was president and I went through hell…made to wait days in pain before I was even treated told I could afford to get the surgery I desperately needed…Fast forward to 2012…I was the victim of an unfortunate attack and NEEDED TREATMENT…I had no health insurance…OBAMA is President and I am so glad…I was TREATED for my injuries and given FREE HEALTH CARE for 1 YR…I never saw a bill...I know he is not perfect but OUR PRESIDENT has made a difference…THANK YOU

CortezBlue - 10-17-2012 at 07:47 AM

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Originally posted by EnsenadaDr
Actually it is a very thin bone known as the ethmoid bone. Sometimes they use a metal snare, which is like a very sharp noose that they tighten around the stem of the polyp, and pull it out. Other times there are many little polyps that need to be scraped out of the nasal cavity. Then a patient would need general anesthesia. I assisted in many nasal operations in the Military Hospital with the specialist, generally if you have the right tools and have alot of patience, there is no danger, but blood pressure during extensive nasal surgery needs to be brought extremely low by an anesthesiologist, and monitored constantly, to keep bleeding to a minimum. I think the best way to go is using steroid spray and see if that works first.
Quote:
Originally posted by Bob and Susan
removing "those things" from the nose is very dangerous...

the membrane in the nose is really thin and close to the brain

i wouldnt skimp on the doctor

they use something called the "nibbler"
and they need to put a bannana sized sponge in there for several weeks to heal the repair

it's not as easy as it seems



Are you a Doctor or did you stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night?:tumble::spingrin:

monoloco - 10-17-2012 at 09:57 AM

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Originally posted by CortezBlue
Quote:
Originally posted by EnsenadaDr
Actually it is a very thin bone known as the ethmoid bone. Sometimes they use a metal snare, which is like a very sharp noose that they tighten around the stem of the polyp, and pull it out. Other times there are many little polyps that need to be scraped out of the nasal cavity. Then a patient would need general anesthesia. I assisted in many nasal operations in the Military Hospital with the specialist, generally if you have the right tools and have alot of patience, there is no danger, but blood pressure during extensive nasal surgery needs to be brought extremely low by an anesthesiologist, and monitored constantly, to keep bleeding to a minimum. I think the best way to go is using steroid spray and see if that works first.
Quote:
Originally posted by Bob and Susan
removing "those things" from the nose is very dangerous...

the membrane in the nose is really thin and close to the brain

i wouldnt skimp on the doctor

they use something called the "nibbler"
and they need to put a bannana sized sponge in there for several weeks to heal the repair

it's not as easy as it seems



Are you a Doctor or did you stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night?:tumble::spingrin:
Sounds like it's a lot like fixing a Cummins diesel.:lol:

What does that comment mean? Holiday Inn Express=Doctor??

EnsenadaDr - 10-17-2012 at 10:35 AM

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Originally posted by CortezBlue
Quote:
Originally posted by EnsenadaDr
Actually it is a very thin bone known as the ethmoid bone. Sometimes they use a metal snare, which is like a very sharp noose that they tighten around the stem of the polyp, and pull it out. Other times there are many little polyps that need to be scraped out of the nasal cavity. Then a patient would need general anesthesia. I assisted in many nasal operations in the Military Hospital with the specialist, generally if you have the right tools and have alot of patience, there is no danger, but blood pressure during extensive nasal surgery needs to be brought extremely low by an anesthesiologist, and monitored constantly, to keep bleeding to a minimum. I think the best way to go is using steroid spray and see if that works first.
Quote:
Originally posted by Bob and Susan
removing "those things" from the nose is very dangerous...

the membrane in the nose is really thin and close to the brain

i wouldnt skimp on the doctor

they use something called the "nibbler"
and they need to put a bannana sized sponge in there for several weeks to heal the repair

it's not as easy as it seems



Are you a Doctor or did you stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night?:tumble::spingrin:

EnsenadaDr - 10-17-2012 at 10:37 AM

So how do you know if it is a direct result of Obamacare or a good Social worker getting the patient Medicare or Medicaid?? Mind you, I could care less who is elected President at this point.
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Originally posted by BajaBlanca
a friend of mine has already used obamacare so it must be in effect already ....???

QUOTE FROM MY FRIEND:

Looking forward to tonight's debate I want to share how OBAMA HELPED ME…2006 I got really sick and NEEDED SURGERY…I had no health insurance…Bush was president and I went through hell…made to wait days in pain before I was even treated told I could afford to get the surgery I desperately needed…Fast forward to 2012…I was the victim of an unfortunate attack and NEEDED TREATMENT…I had no health insurance…OBAMA is President and I am so glad…I was TREATED for my injuries and given FREE HEALTH CARE for 1 YR…I never saw a bill...I know he is not perfect but OUR PRESIDENT has made a difference…THANK YOU

vandenberg - 10-17-2012 at 02:18 PM

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Originally posted by BajaBlanca
a friend of mine has already used obamacare so it must be in effect already ....???

QUOTE FROM MY FRIEND:

Looking forward to tonight's debate I want to share how OBAMA HELPED ME…2006 I got really sick and NEEDED SURGERY…I had no health insurance…Bush was president and I went through hell…made to wait days in pain before I was even treated told I could afford to get the surgery I desperately needed…Fast forward to 2012…I was the victim of an unfortunate attack and NEEDED TREATMENT…I had no health insurance…OBAMA is President and I am so glad…I was TREATED for my injuries and given FREE HEALTH CARE for 1 YR…I never saw a bill...I know he is not perfect but OUR PRESIDENT has made a difference…THANK YOU


Of course you realise that nothing is free. Sombody has to pay for this. Probably floated a loan with some chinese.:biggrin::biggrin:

bacquito - 10-17-2012 at 05:59 PM

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Originally posted by BajaBlanca
a friend of mine has already used obamacare so it must be in effect already ....???

QUOTE FROM MY FRIEND:

Looking forward to tonight's debate I want to share how OBAMA HELPED ME…2006 I got really sick and NEEDED SURGERY…I had no health insurance…Bush was president and I went through hell…made to wait days in pain before I was even treated told I could afford to get the surgery I desperately needed…Fast forward to 2012…I was the victim of an unfortunate attack and NEEDED TREATMENT…I had no health insurance…OBAMA is President and I am so glad…I was TREATED for my injuries and given FREE HEALTH CARE for 1 YR…I never saw a bill...I know he is not perfect but OUR PRESIDENT has made a difference…THANK YOU


Agree!

CortezBlue - 10-17-2012 at 06:42 PM

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Originally posted by EnsenadaDr
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Originally posted by CortezBlue
Quote:
Originally posted by EnsenadaDr
Actually it is a very thin bone known as the ethmoid bone. Sometimes they use a metal snare, which is like a very sharp noose that they tighten around the stem of the polyp, and pull it out. Other times there are many little polyps that need to be scraped out of the nasal cavity. Then a patient would need general anesthesia. I assisted in many nasal operations in the Military Hospital with the specialist, generally if you have the right tools and have alot of patience, there is no danger, but blood pressure during extensive nasal surgery needs to be brought extremely low by an anesthesiologist, and monitored constantly, to keep bleeding to a minimum. I think the best way to go is using steroid spray and see if that works first.
Quote:
Originally posted by Bob and Susan
removing "those things" from the nose is very dangerous...

the membrane in the nose is really thin and close to the brain

i wouldnt skimp on the doctor

they use something called the "nibbler"
and they need to put a bannana sized sponge in there for several weeks to heal the repair

it's not as easy as it seems



Are you a Doctor or did you stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night?:tumble::spingrin:


There I go assuming again. There use to be a series of commercials with a guy in an OR and the nurse asks him a question about the surgery and he replies, "Oh, I'm not a Dr, but I did stay in a Holiday Inn Express last night!"


It sounded more interesting then simply asking if you are a Doctor?

EnsenadaDr - 10-17-2012 at 06:43 PM

Really, it sounded more like an insult.