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California to issue Enhanced Drivers Licenses???

bajaguy - 12-12-2012 at 09:44 AM

http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2012/dec/11/new-license-could...

Enhanced CDL

Tacodawgtim - 12-12-2012 at 10:55 AM

I have just spent the last few days on the phone with the boarder control people, our US side. I was told the last time I came out of baja to use my passport in the redi lane. It is the newer passport with the RFID hip that is in the documents that are approved..

Well after talking with several different departments no one could tell me why I can not use the new passport with the RFID chip embedded in it other than because. I pay more for my passport renewal than it is for a passport card. I can get a passport card if I return my passport and wait the time required to have both, a passport card with the RFID chip and my passport with the RFID CHIP. Seems a little foolish, I know I am dealing with the government.

I was not told by the US border person I could not use the redi lane with my passport but the official position is it is not authorized. I guess I just keep going out the redi lane until I'm told I am in the wrong lane. I do have my application in for the Sentri lane, much faster.
Just out government at its best. One more document.

bajaguy - 12-12-2012 at 11:16 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Tacodawgtim
I have just spent the last few days on the phone with the boarder control people, our US side. I was told the last time I came out of baja to use my passport in the redi lane. It is the newer passport with the RFID hip that is in the documents that are approved..

Well after talking with several different departments no one could tell me why I can not use the new passport with the RFID chip embedded in it other than because. I pay more for my passport renewal than it is for a passport card. I can get a passport card if I return my passport and wait the time required to have both, a passport card with the RFID chip and my passport with the RFID CHIP. Seems a little foolish, I know I am dealing with the government.

I was not told by the US border person I could not use the redi lane with my passport but the official position is it is not authorized. I guess I just keep going out the redi lane until I'm told I am in the wrong lane. I do have my application in for the Sentri lane, much faster.
Just out government at its best. One more document.





For some reason, the chip in the passport book is different than the chip in the passport card. The chip in the book cannot be read by the electronic readers in the Ready Lane.

Probably because the systems (chips & readers) were designed by two of the lowest bidders on the contract list.

If you do a Google search or go to the CBP ready lane page, there are FAQ's that explain the difference.

PS: It's border, not boarder.....there is a difference.... :lol:

[Edited on 12-12-2012 by bajaguy]

What's the point?

durrelllrobert - 12-12-2012 at 11:19 AM

$4.5 million startup costs for DMV______________________________________________
Guess who pays for that?
________________________________________________

Only those eligible for U.S. passports could apply.
_____________________________________________
So why not just apply for a passport card?
_______________________________________________
applicants would pay an additional fee of $75
______________________________________________
So why not just apply for a passport card?
______________________________________________
Thorough background checks would be required
______________________________________________
More work for Homeland Security that now requires 6 months for a SENTRI pass

bajaguy - 12-12-2012 at 11:26 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by durrelllrobert
$4.5 million startup costs for DMV______________________________________________
Guess who pays for that?
________________________________________________

Only those eligible for U.S. passports could apply.
_____________________________________________
So why not just apply for a passport card?
_______________________________________________
applicants would pay an additional fee of $75
______________________________________________
So why not just apply for a passport card?
______________________________________________
Thorough background checks would be required
______________________________________________
More work for Homeland Security that now requires 6 months for a SENTRI pass





Agree with everything but your last point........where does it say the wait time is 6 months??? Initial applications for SENTRI that I personally know of were approved in 6-8 weeks. Some have been quicker, some slower.

Even know of people who have been denied appealing and being approved.

Tacodawgtim - 12-12-2012 at 12:10 PM

I have no problem getting the passport card. But since I go down to my place in Baja about once a month I hate to go without a passport.. Means I don't get my Baja fix. Either my Sentri application will come thru first or I wait till summer when I don't go South. No big deal. Been doing it this way for many years just trying to speed up my border wait times as they seem to be getting longer and longer...:yes:

No worrys mate

captkw - 12-12-2012 at 12:18 PM

In the future when its the north american union with no borders at all.....if your head has not been in the sand..look at europe and its euro.....ever wonder why the border is so lack in regard to im

J.P. - 12-12-2012 at 06:44 PM

I thought they already have a enhanced license. When I renewed mine the last time it took about 6mos. for them to get it done they were having problems with the system.
For a country that's says equal rights for everyone the spend a lot of money and effort trying to set up a Class system that is not equal.:no::no:

[Edited on 12-13-2012 by J.P.]

sancho - 12-13-2012 at 11:45 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by durrelllrobert
So why not just apply for a passport card?




I'm with you there, a Passcard without getting a Passport
is $55, I believe, lasts 10yrs., Enhanced DL, $75, I guess
would last the 5 yrs, typically given on a Ca DL.
I assume the only benifit would be convience of sorts,
maybe people would renew their DL's and get the
enhanced license at the same time. I assume the # of
border crossers with proper ID, like the new DL's
would go up, I remember reading border crossers with
proper ID was something like 65%

J.P. - 12-13-2012 at 05:30 PM

I would make sense to me to have the Enhanced DL. One less card to deal with and you cant use the pasport card to fly with.

Enhanced drivers license

dpwahoo - 12-14-2012 at 02:40 AM

I believe only 3 states have enhanced drivers license. Cal. is not one of them.

durrelllrobert - 12-14-2012 at 08:56 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by dpwahoo
I believe only 3 states have enhanced drivers license. Cal. is not one of them.


As of May 2009[update], Vermont, New York, Michigan and Washington were issuing enhanced driver's licenses and ID cards

durrelllrobert - 12-14-2012 at 08:59 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by J.P.
I would make sense to me to have the Enhanced DL. One less card to deal with and you cant use the pasport card to fly with.

From CBP site:
NOTE: The EDL and the ENDID are not valid for international air travel.

J.P. - 12-14-2012 at 09:36 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by durrelllrobert
Quote:
Originally posted by J.P.
I would make sense to me to have the Enhanced DL. One less card to deal with and you cant use the pasport card to fly with.

From CBP site:
NOTE: The EDL and the ENDID are not valid for international air travel.









We werent talking about flying internationaly. I simply stated for me the enhanced dl. would be a better choice It would eleminate the need for a passport card. I have had a passport forever.although I dont fly anywhere very often

sancho - 12-14-2012 at 11:41 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by J.P.







We werent talking about flying internationaly.






I understand, not first hand, that one can get an fmm with the Passport Card,
do you believe it would be accepted at the TJ airport
to fly within Mex?

J.P. - 12-14-2012 at 12:09 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by sancho
Quote:
Originally posted by J.P.







We werent talking about flying internationaly.






I understand, not first hand, that one can get an fmm with the Passport Card,
do you believe it would be accepted at the TJ airport
to fly within Mex?





Idont have a clue what the requirements to fly in Mexico are.