BajaNomad

1 Feb 2013 Precios de Gasolineras (Fuel Prices)

DavidE - 2-1-2013 at 06:01 PM

MAGNA $P 10.61 liter

PREMIUM $P 11.09 liter

DIESEL $P 11.01

Asked tanker driver: All fuels as far north as Villa Jesus Maria originate at the Topolobampo Sinaloa fuel depot, and are barged across the gulf to Pichilingue, then hauled by "pipa" from there. The only fuel originating in the USA shipped from Topolobampo is Premium. The driver was pretty knowledgeable; he said for a fact the Premium is from the Deer Park Shell/Pemex refinery and does contain the urea "Nitrogen" additive. Supposed to compete with Chevron Techron. "Here, you can smell the additive in the gas" he stated. A definitely unique odor. By using Premium this is the first time in six years and 45,000 miles that I do not have to add Techron to the fuel to keep that temperamental Mitsubishi engine from bucking and stalling and losing a substantial degree of fuel mileage. Nine cents per gallon difference, Magna vs Premium.

bajagrouper - 2-1-2013 at 06:50 PM

It is also 30 centavos lower than mainland magna at 10.91 pesos per litro..

David K - 2-1-2013 at 08:43 PM

What is the posted exchange given at the stations? Gas prices north of the border are the highest in history for this time of year... Costco today in Escondido was $3.75 (87 octane)... some others are over $4/ gallon.

Bajaboy - 2-1-2013 at 08:47 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by David K
What is the posted exchange given at the stations? Gas prices north of the border are the highest in history for this time of year... Costco today in Escondido was $3.75 (87 octane)... some others are over $4/ gallon.


What does the posted exchange rate have to do with the price of gasoline?

Ateo - 2-1-2013 at 08:52 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Bajaboy
Quote:
Originally posted by David K
What is the posted exchange given at the stations? Gas prices north of the border are the highest in history for this time of year... Costco today in Escondido was $3.75 (87 octane)... some others are over $4/ gallon.


What does the posted exchange rate have to do with the price of gasoline?


I think he's asking for the whole "12X1" or "12.5X1" to figure out the price per gallon in dolares.

OT: Credit card skimmers are being found inside gas pumps at an alarming rate recently in SoCal. Lots of my customers have been targeted. My ATM # was used last week to purchase $200 in gas in Simi Valley. Sucks.

[Edited on 2-2-2013 by Ateo]

David K - 2-1-2013 at 08:52 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Bajaboy
Quote:
Originally posted by David K
What is the posted exchange given at the stations? Gas prices north of the border are the highest in history for this time of year... Costco today in Escondido was $3.75 (87 octane)... some others are over $4/ gallon.


What does the posted exchange rate have to do with the price of gasoline?


Everything... if a peso is equal to 8 cents instead of 10 cents, for example. Unless you live in Mexico and live daily with pesos for money, it wouldn't matter. A large number of Nomads do not live in Mexico so our money is exchanged either before the trip or during the trip. The exchange rate at those locations would indicate the cost in our money.

Bajaboy - 2-1-2013 at 09:00 PM

David I understand your logic but the price of gasoline is the price of gasoline. A liter of gasoline might be 10.6 MP for the next year while the dollar to peso exchange rate could vary drastically. The cost of the gasoline remains the same, though.

You are asking the price of money on a given day. Also there are much cheaper places to buy pesos than at Pemex stations.

David K - 2-1-2013 at 09:02 PM

We are talking Feb. 1... ie. today. Yes things change... to some, change is good... to others, well, it is a disaster.

Howard - 2-1-2013 at 09:20 PM

Wound up with 12.69 to the $ at the ATM in Loreto yesterday. I figured the gas came out to $3.14 a gallon. (If it was a fair pour, but lets not get into that one again)

El Comadante Loco - 2-1-2013 at 09:54 PM

Well this is an interesting exchange between Bajaboy and DK.

Both are correct. The price of gas is the price of gas in Pesos (Bajaboy)
unless you are paying in dollars (DK) which of course is determined by the exchange rate at the station or casa de cambio. So while the price may be fixed Pesos as we all know your dollar price varies.
I used my credit card to purchase gas in Mexicali and my exchange was better than the station's of casa de cambio. BTW my C card does not have a foreign exchange fee..

Now, is there something sinister brewing between Bajaboy and DK..

Stay tuned!

Stay tuned...

acadist - 2-2-2013 at 06:38 AM

What the hay:mad: Gas here in Denver jumped over 30 cents in the last week or so:mad:

Bob and Susan - 2-2-2013 at 07:16 AM

newer cars NEVER need magna...

the people at texaco told me its ONLY a marketing gimmick to increase profits

unless your manufacturer states the engine MUST run on premium then reg is fine

people "love" their cars...they "feel good" if they give it the "best":yes::yes:

oladulce - 2-2-2013 at 07:51 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Ateo
OT: Credit card skimmers are being found inside gas pumps at an alarming rate recently in SoCal. Lots of my customers have been targeted. My ATM # was used last week to purchase $200 in gas in Simi Valley. Sucks.


Inside the pump? Any brand of gas in particular? Anything to look for to detect a suspicious pump?

DavidE - 2-2-2013 at 10:16 AM

Mitsubishi engine forums are jam-packed with discussions about how temperamental they are with regard to deposit build up on injectors and valves. It is not in my case a question of octane, it is a question of additive packages versus driveability and economy.

When my car gets temperamental using Baja Sur Magna, which is the same as mainland Magna. OR (and this is a biggie) when several thousand miles of garbage USA gasolines, this is what happens. Start-ups are not smooth. The engine rocks badly and stalls. Put it in gear and it hesitates or stalls right off. Fuel mileage over a given course USED HUNDREDS OF TIMES degrades about fifteen to twenty seven percent. On another trip to Acapulco the car got 18-miles per gallon. I didn't know about Premium then. So I went to COSTCO Acapulco and purchased 4 cartons of six bottles each of TECHRON. I filled up leaving the city after adding Techron. Thereafter the mileage resumed to 27 mpg for TENS OF THOUSANDS OF MILES. The same thing happens with junk USA gasoline so I stick to Chevron and so not use Techron additive.

SORRY CHARLIE, I put too many miles on that car to get fooled by such things as more or less traffic, different routes, different levels of wind, the possibility of getting "bad" tanks of gasoline. When the engine STALLS, 101% of the time using off brand fuel, when the mileage dumps, it is not subtle. It is rude. With gasoline using the urea additive (Chevron Techron, Shell's Nitrogen additive) the stalling, hesitation and crappy fuel mileage does not appear, EVER. orget about temperature differences, most of the miles except in the states occurred between 55 and 120 degrees. The car runs even WORSE when it's hot.

Calif emissions test last year. ALL TEST RESULTS were way, way under the maximum. The car has 80,000 miles. I purchased it when it had sixteen thousand miles.

Apparently MOST other engines are not as sensitive as the Mitsubishi. But some are. On a trip to Mulege last month I averaged 28.8 MPG. FILLED FROM 19 liter gas cans to ensure accuracy.

David K - 2-2-2013 at 10:19 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Bob and Susan
newer cars NEVER need magna...

the people at texaco told me its ONLY a marketing gimmick to increase profits

unless your manufacturer states the engine MUST run on premium then reg is fine

people "love" their cars...they "feel good" if they give it the "best":yes::yes:


I think you mean 'Premium' (91) , as Magna is regular (87)?

durrelllrobert - 2-2-2013 at 10:40 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Howard
Wound up with 12.69 to the $ at the ATM in Loreto yesterday. I figured the gas came out to $3.14 a gallon. (If it was a fair pour, but lets not get into that one again)

10.61 MN/liter (Magna) x 3.7854 liters/US gal divided by 12.69 MN/US$ = $3.16US/USgal

11.09MN/liter (Premium) x 3.7854 liters/US gal divided by 12.69MN = $3.31US/US gal

Bob and Susan - 2-2-2013 at 11:14 AM

see i'm not ALWAYS right;)

comitan - 2-2-2013 at 01:04 PM

David

You want to save money? The best way for you is to add 4oz of acetone to every 10 gals gas, You will increase your mileage and keep your engine clean running. If you question that it will be bad for your engine I have been using in my vehicles for the last 15 years, other people on forums using 40 years.

Quote:
Originally posted by DavidE
Mitsubishi engine forums are jam-packed with discussions about how temperamental they are with regard to deposit build up on injectors and valves. It is not in my case a question of octane, it is a question of additive packages versus driveability and economy.

When my car gets temperamental using Baja Sur Magna, which is the same as mainland Magna. OR (and this is a biggie) when several thousand miles of garbage USA gasolines, this is what happens. Start-ups are not smooth. The engine rocks badly and stalls. Put it in gear and it hesitates or stalls right off. Fuel mileage over a given course USED HUNDREDS OF TIMES degrades about fifteen to twenty seven percent. On another trip to Acapulco the car got 18-miles per gallon. I didn't know about Premium then. So I went to COSTCO Acapulco and purchased 4 cartons of six bottles each of TECHRON. I filled up leaving the city after adding Techron. Thereafter the mileage resumed to 27 mpg for TENS OF THOUSANDS OF MILES. The same thing happens with junk USA gasoline so I stick to Chevron and so not use Techron additive.

SORRY CHARLIE, I put too many miles on that car to get fooled by such things as more or less traffic, different routes, different levels of wind, the possibility of getting "bad" tanks of gasoline. When the engine STALLS, 101% of the time using off brand fuel, when the mileage dumps, it is not subtle. It is rude. With gasoline using the urea additive (Chevron Techron, Shell's Nitrogen additive) the stalling, hesitation and crappy fuel mileage does not appear, EVER. orget about temperature differences, most of the miles except in the states occurred between 55 and 120 degrees. The car runs even WORSE when it's hot.

Calif emissions test last year. ALL TEST RESULTS were way, way under the maximum. The car has 80,000 miles. I purchased it when it had sixteen thousand miles.

Apparently MOST other engines are not as sensitive as the Mitsubishi. But some are. On a trip to Mulege last month I averaged 28.8 MPG. FILLED FROM 19 liter gas cans to ensure accuracy.
:O:O:O:O:O:O

DavidE - 2-2-2013 at 01:48 PM

Acetone? Would love to try it but have never engaged in looking for it down here.

woody with a view - 2-2-2013 at 01:52 PM

i paid $3.04 yesterday in Yuma.

Bajaboy - 2-2-2013 at 02:14 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by woody with a view
i paid $3.04 yesterday in Yuma.


Sorry to hear you were in Yuma....

woody with a view - 2-2-2013 at 02:16 PM

me too, but the paycheck is good!

David K - 2-2-2013 at 02:44 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by durrelllrobert
Quote:
Originally posted by Howard
Wound up with 12.69 to the $ at the ATM in Loreto yesterday. I figured the gas came out to $3.14 a gallon. (If it was a fair pour, but lets not get into that one again)

10.61 MN/liter (Magna) x 3.7854 liters/US gal divided by 12.69 MN/US$ = $3.16US/USgal

11.09MN/liter (Premium) x 3.7854 liters/US gal divided by 12.69MN = $3.31US/US gal


Excellent, gracias!

Bajaboy - 2-2-2013 at 03:43 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by El Comadante Loco
Well this is an interesting exchange between Bajaboy and DK.

Now, is there something sinister brewing between Bajaboy and DK..

Stay tuned!

Stay tuned...


Nope, David and I are great comrades...

comitan - 2-2-2013 at 03:44 PM

Ask ferriterias. If you do use it more isn't better it won't hurt anything its just a waste. Google it, My take it just cleans injectors after 3 uses you won't get better fuel economy. Many people have different ideas. Ask Juan where to get it.

[Edited on 2-2-2013 by comitan]

[Edited on 2-2-2013 by comitan]

David K - 2-2-2013 at 04:15 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Bajaboy
Quote:
Originally posted by El Comadante Loco
Well this is an interesting exchange between Bajaboy and DK.

Now, is there something sinister brewing between Bajaboy and DK..

Stay tuned!

Stay tuned...


Nope, David and I are great comrades...


Yes indeed... "workers of the world, unite!" :light::lol:
Bajaboy and I have been four wheeling together since the first Matomi/ President's Day tour (2001)!




Amo Pescar, Mike Humfreville, Wild Bill, Jeans, and Zac ('bajaboy').
Zac continues his journey this day to Gonzaga Bay!

El Comadante Loco - 2-2-2013 at 05:08 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by David K
Quote:
Originally posted by Bajaboy
Quote:
Originally posted by El Comadante Loco
Well this is an interesting exchange between Bajaboy and DK.

Now, is there something sinister brewing between Bajaboy and DK..

Stay tuned!

Stay tuned...


Nope, David and I are great comrades...


Yes indeed... "workers of the world, unite!" :light::lol:
Bajaboy and I have been four wheeling together since the first Matomi/ President's Day tour (2001)!




Amo Pescar, Mike Humfreville, Wild Bill, Jeans, and Zac ('bajaboy').
Zac continues his journey this day to Gonzaga Bay!


Oh well ni modo and here I thought we had the beginning of an other exciting thread to rival the Turtle Soup escapade:lol::lol::lol::lol:

wornout - 2-2-2013 at 07:38 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by David K
Quote:
Originally posted by durrelllrobert
Quote:
Originally posted by Howard
Wound up with 12.69 to the $ at the ATM in Loreto yesterday. I figured the gas came out to $3.14 a gallon. (If it was a fair pour, but lets not get into that one again)

10.61 MN/liter (Magna) x 3.7854 liters/US gal divided by 12.69 MN/US$ = $3.16US/USgal

11.09MN/liter (Premium) x 3.7854 liters/US gal divided by 12.69MN = $3.31US/US gal


I agree thank you thany you, and I don't see how anybody can COMPARE the price of gas in Mexico, to the USA, WITHOUT knowing the exchange rate at that time. Maybe their point was to compare it to last time in Mexico, what is the price per liter now compared to .......

Excellent, gracias!

liknbaja127 - 2-2-2013 at 07:55 PM

I was told by a good freind, that lives there, that prem. or reg. is same.
We have a L-s1 motor that we run. we use both grades and do not see a diff.
and we try to use pesos when ever we can.

Ateo - 2-2-2013 at 08:00 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by oladulce
Quote:
Originally posted by Ateo
OT: Credit card skimmers are being found inside gas pumps at an alarming rate recently in SoCal. Lots of my customers have been targeted. My ATM # was used last week to purchase $200 in gas in Simi Valley. Sucks.


Inside the pump? Any brand of gas in particular? Anything to look for to detect a suspicious pump?


Inside the pump. Nothing a customer could notice. They attach it to the insides of the card reader and steal your info. All you can do is ask the owner if they check their pumps daily. Many stations have started putting tamper resistant stickers on the pumps to alert them if someone has opened them. Some have installed locks.

Ateo - 2-2-2013 at 08:02 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by David K
Quote:
Originally posted by Bob and Susan
newer cars NEVER need magna...

the people at texaco told me its ONLY a marketing gimmick to increase profits

unless your manufacturer states the engine MUST run on premium then reg is fine

people "love" their cars...they "feel good" if they give it the "best":yes::yes:


I think you mean 'Premium' (91) , as Magna is regular (87)?


After the correction -- I agree 100%. Bob and Susan, you always tell it like it is. I like that.

Ateo - 2-2-2013 at 08:04 PM

I paid $4.49/gallon in Borrego Springs today. Only put in $20, enough to get me back to civilization.

woody with a view - 2-3-2013 at 08:03 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by comitan
David

You want to save money? The best way for you is to add 4oz of acetone to every 10 gals gas, You will increase your mileage and keep your engine clean running. If you question that it will be bad for your engine I have been using in my vehicles for the last 15 years, other people on forums using 40 years.



read the 3rd and 4th paragraph before you decide.
http://www.snopes.com/autos/techno/acetone.asp