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DavidE
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Location: Baja California México
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Mood: 'At home we demand facts and get them. In Mexico one subsists on rumor and never demands anything.' Charles Flandrau,
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1 Feb 2013 Precios de Gasolineras (Fuel Prices)
MAGNA $P 10.61 liter
PREMIUM $P 11.09 liter
DIESEL $P 11.01
Asked tanker driver: All fuels as far north as Villa Jesus Maria originate at the Topolobampo Sinaloa fuel depot, and are barged across the gulf to
Pichilingue, then hauled by "pipa" from there. The only fuel originating in the USA shipped from Topolobampo is Premium. The driver was pretty
knowledgeable; he said for a fact the Premium is from the Deer Park Shell/Pemex refinery and does contain the urea "Nitrogen" additive. Supposed to
compete with Chevron Techron. "Here, you can smell the additive in the gas" he stated. A definitely unique odor. By using Premium this is the first
time in six years and 45,000 miles that I do not have to add Techron to the fuel to keep that temperamental Mitsubishi engine from bucking and
stalling and losing a substantial degree of fuel mileage. Nine cents per gallon difference, Magna vs Premium.
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bajagrouper
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Location: Rincon de Guayabitos, Nayarit, Mexico
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It is also 30 centavos lower than mainland magna at 10.91 pesos per litro..
I hear the whales song
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David K
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Registered: 8-30-2002
Location: San Diego County
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What is the posted exchange given at the stations? Gas prices north of the border are the highest in history for this time of year... Costco today in
Escondido was $3.75 (87 octane)... some others are over $4/ gallon.
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Bajaboy
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
What is the posted exchange given at the stations? Gas prices north of the border are the highest in history for this time of year... Costco today in
Escondido was $3.75 (87 octane)... some others are over $4/ gallon. |
What does the posted exchange rate have to do with the price of gasoline?
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Ateo
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajaboy
| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
What is the posted exchange given at the stations? Gas prices north of the border are the highest in history for this time of year... Costco today in
Escondido was $3.75 (87 octane)... some others are over $4/ gallon. |
What does the posted exchange rate have to do with the price of gasoline? |
I think he's asking for the whole "12X1" or "12.5X1" to figure out the price per gallon in dolares.
OT: Credit card skimmers are being found inside gas pumps at an alarming rate recently in SoCal. Lots of my customers have been targeted. My ATM #
was used last week to purchase $200 in gas in Simi Valley. Sucks.
[Edited on 2-2-2013 by Ateo]
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David K
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Location: San Diego County
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Mood: Have Baja Fever
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajaboy
| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
What is the posted exchange given at the stations? Gas prices north of the border are the highest in history for this time of year... Costco today in
Escondido was $3.75 (87 octane)... some others are over $4/ gallon. |
What does the posted exchange rate have to do with the price of gasoline? |
Everything... if a peso is equal to 8 cents instead of 10 cents, for example. Unless you live in Mexico and live daily with pesos for money, it
wouldn't matter. A large number of Nomads do not live in Mexico so our money is exchanged either before the trip or during the trip. The exchange rate
at those locations would indicate the cost in our money.
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Bajaboy
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David I understand your logic but the price of gasoline is the price of gasoline. A liter of gasoline might be 10.6 MP for the next year while the
dollar to peso exchange rate could vary drastically. The cost of the gasoline remains the same, though.
You are asking the price of money on a given day. Also there are much cheaper places to buy pesos than at Pemex stations.
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David K
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Location: San Diego County
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We are talking Feb. 1... ie. today. Yes things change... to some, change is good... to others, well, it is a disaster.
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Howard
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Mood: I'd rather regret the things I've done than regret the things I haven't done.
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Wound up with 12.69 to the $ at the ATM in Loreto yesterday. I figured the gas came out to $3.14 a gallon. (If it was a fair pour, but lets not get
into that one again)
We don't stop playing because we grow old;
we grow old because we stop playing
George Bernard Shaw
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El Comadante Loco
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Well this is an interesting exchange between Bajaboy and DK.
Both are correct. The price of gas is the price of gas in Pesos (Bajaboy)
unless you are paying in dollars (DK) which of course is determined by the exchange rate at the station or casa de cambio. So while the price may be
fixed Pesos as we all know your dollar price varies.
I used my credit card to purchase gas in Mexicali and my exchange was better than the station's of casa de cambio. BTW my C card does not have a
foreign exchange fee..
Now, is there something sinister brewing between Bajaboy and DK..
Stay tuned!
Stay tuned...
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acadist
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What the hay Gas here in Denver jumped over 30 cents in the last week or so
Dave
I moved to CO and they made me buy a little rod to make it feel like a real fish
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Bob and Susan
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newer cars NEVER need magna...
the people at texaco told me its ONLY a marketing gimmick to increase profits
unless your manufacturer states the engine MUST run on premium then reg is fine
people "love" their cars...they "feel good" if they give it the "best"
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oladulce
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Ateo
OT: Credit card skimmers are being found inside gas pumps at an alarming rate recently in SoCal. Lots of my customers have been targeted. My ATM #
was used last week to purchase $200 in gas in Simi Valley. Sucks. |
Inside the pump? Any brand of gas in particular? Anything to look for to detect a suspicious pump?
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DavidE
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Registered: 12-1-2003
Location: Baja California México
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Mood: 'At home we demand facts and get them. In Mexico one subsists on rumor and never demands anything.' Charles Flandrau,
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Mitsubishi engine forums are jam-packed with discussions about how temperamental they are with regard to deposit build up on injectors and valves. It
is not in my case a question of octane, it is a question of additive packages versus driveability and economy.
When my car gets temperamental using Baja Sur Magna, which is the same as mainland Magna. OR (and this is a biggie) when several thousand miles of
garbage USA gasolines, this is what happens. Start-ups are not smooth. The engine rocks badly and stalls. Put it in gear and it hesitates or stalls
right off. Fuel mileage over a given course USED HUNDREDS OF TIMES degrades about fifteen to twenty seven percent. On another trip to Acapulco the car
got 18-miles per gallon. I didn't know about Premium then. So I went to COSTCO Acapulco and purchased 4 cartons of six bottles each of TECHRON. I
filled up leaving the city after adding Techron. Thereafter the mileage resumed to 27 mpg for TENS OF THOUSANDS OF MILES. The same thing happens with
junk USA gasoline so I stick to Chevron and so not use Techron additive.
SORRY CHARLIE, I put too many miles on that car to get fooled by such things as more or less traffic, different routes, different levels of wind, the
possibility of getting "bad" tanks of gasoline. When the engine STALLS, 101% of the time using off brand fuel, when the mileage dumps, it is not
subtle. It is rude. With gasoline using the urea additive (Chevron Techron, Shell's Nitrogen additive) the stalling, hesitation and crappy fuel
mileage does not appear, EVER. orget about temperature differences, most of the miles except in the states occurred between 55 and 120 degrees. The
car runs even WORSE when it's hot.
Calif emissions test last year. ALL TEST RESULTS were way, way under the maximum. The car has 80,000 miles. I purchased it when it had sixteen
thousand miles.
Apparently MOST other engines are not as sensitive as the Mitsubishi. But some are. On a trip to Mulege last month I averaged 28.8 MPG. FILLED FROM 19
liter gas cans to ensure accuracy.
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David K
Honored Nomad
Posts: 64760
Registered: 8-30-2002
Location: San Diego County
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Mood: Have Baja Fever
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bob and Susan
newer cars NEVER need magna...
the people at texaco told me its ONLY a marketing gimmick to increase profits
unless your manufacturer states the engine MUST run on premium then reg is fine
people "love" their cars...they "feel good" if they give it the "best" |
I think you mean 'Premium' (91) , as Magna is regular (87)?
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durrelllrobert
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Registered: 11-22-2007
Location: Punta Banda BC
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Howard
Wound up with 12.69 to the $ at the ATM in Loreto yesterday. I figured the gas came out to $3.14 a gallon. (If it was a fair pour, but lets not get
into that one again) |
10.61 MN/liter (Magna) x 3.7854 liters/US gal divided by 12.69 MN/US$ = $3.16US/USgal
11.09MN/liter (Premium) x 3.7854 liters/US gal divided by 12.69MN = $3.31US/US gal
Bob Durrell
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Bob and Susan
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Posts: 8813
Registered: 8-20-2003
Location: Mulege BCS on the BAY
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see i'm not ALWAYS right
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comitan
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David
You want to save money? The best way for you is to add 4oz of acetone to every 10 gals gas, You will increase your mileage and keep your engine clean
running. If you question that it will be bad for your engine I have been using in my vehicles for the last 15 years, other people on forums using 40
years.
| Quote: | Originally posted by DavidE
Mitsubishi engine forums are jam-packed with discussions about how temperamental they are with regard to deposit build up on injectors and valves. It
is not in my case a question of octane, it is a question of additive packages versus driveability and economy.
When my car gets temperamental using Baja Sur Magna, which is the same as mainland Magna. OR (and this is a biggie) when several thousand miles of
garbage USA gasolines, this is what happens. Start-ups are not smooth. The engine rocks badly and stalls. Put it in gear and it hesitates or stalls
right off. Fuel mileage over a given course USED HUNDREDS OF TIMES degrades about fifteen to twenty seven percent. On another trip to Acapulco the car
got 18-miles per gallon. I didn't know about Premium then. So I went to COSTCO Acapulco and purchased 4 cartons of six bottles each of TECHRON. I
filled up leaving the city after adding Techron. Thereafter the mileage resumed to 27 mpg for TENS OF THOUSANDS OF MILES. The same thing happens with
junk USA gasoline so I stick to Chevron and so not use Techron additive.
SORRY CHARLIE, I put too many miles on that car to get fooled by such things as more or less traffic, different routes, different levels of wind, the
possibility of getting "bad" tanks of gasoline. When the engine STALLS, 101% of the time using off brand fuel, when the mileage dumps, it is not
subtle. It is rude. With gasoline using the urea additive (Chevron Techron, Shell's Nitrogen additive) the stalling, hesitation and crappy fuel
mileage does not appear, EVER. orget about temperature differences, most of the miles except in the states occurred between 55 and 120 degrees. The
car runs even WORSE when it's hot.
Calif emissions test last year. ALL TEST RESULTS were way, way under the maximum. The car has 80,000 miles. I purchased it when it had sixteen
thousand miles.
Apparently MOST other engines are not as sensitive as the Mitsubishi. But some are. On a trip to Mulege last month I averaged 28.8 MPG. FILLED FROM 19
liter gas cans to ensure accuracy. |
Strive For The Ideal, But Deal With What\'s Real.
Every day is a new day, better than the day before.(from some song)
Lord, Keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.
“The sincere pursuit of truth requires you to entertain the possibility that everything you believe to be true may in fact be false”
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DavidE
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Registered: 12-1-2003
Location: Baja California México
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Mood: 'At home we demand facts and get them. In Mexico one subsists on rumor and never demands anything.' Charles Flandrau,
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Acetone? Would love to try it but have never engaged in looking for it down here.
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woody with a view
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i paid $3.04 yesterday in Yuma.
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