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That's pretty funny Hose A!

We have three observations, so far:

1) Reward people for illegal activity. (ie. Bush trying to make a failed immigration program work, so employment seeking people won't be breaking the law).

2) If you didn't give them jobs, they wouldn't be over there (in U.S.). (ie. Let them stay poor in Mexico, unless Mexico can seriously reform their financial structure).

3) If the government here (U.S.) didn't pay people not to work, then all able bodied people would work (including ditch digging and house cleaning). (ie. there would be no jobs available for foreignors).

Hose A or anyone care to discuss these points and what would be a workable solution?

I doubt that this will be true tomorrow,

Actually, the problem can be easily solved. You either get rid of the border so BOTH countries have equal access to all the other has to offer, or one country annexes the other. That way, all the "illegals" will no longer be so, and Baja will look like Orange County.

See............

Easily solved!

Illegal aliens

Not a defeatist attitude, just an observation. These people are here to stay, why not at least get a handle on who is in this country and why? As for the issue of it being a religious or political issue, the truth is it is that for us Americans the issues are money and ethics.....more of the former and less of the latter. Looking at the growth trends it appears to me the Mexican people will regain what they lost (read: taken away)! What is the old saying about possession being nine points of the law? It was shocking to me to learn how much of a Mexican community is growing in Nashville. And it extends even into the nations capitol. I guess we could just stick our head in the sand. I guess this is not a situation begging for a "solution" rather an "adjustment" to changing times and conditions. It is nothing personal, just history adjusting itself.

David,

I dont want to sound racist, and since i dont live in the US my opinion can be inacurate, but i was watching a show that my girlfriend likes the other day, Jessica Simpson reality show. Turns out they wanted to landscape their huge yard and plant lawn, so they go and hire these guys from a company that helps jobless people, about 5 black guys and 2 white guys, so they show up next morning and all they did was waste the day working very poorly, taking lots of breaks, and not doing much, so the owners of the house are angry and frustrated, they pay those guys and tell them they will call them.So next day, they hire another contractor, this guys shows up with 7 Mexicans ( looked like illegals to me) and wham bam they go at it hard and get the job done before the day is over.

Seemed to me that the illegals where more hungry, more willing to work hard, than the jobless guys, you work in the business Dave, could that be the case?

I say let 'em in!

How many times have you read a gringo post here asking about work in Mexico?

How many of you know gringos in Baja who work illegally?

How many times have you read a gringo post here asking or advising on how to smuggle goods across the border to avoid the "unfair" tax that Mexico law provides for?

How can these same people (hypocrites) insist that breaking their breaking of the "unfair" Mexican law is reasonable, all-the-while insisting that poor Mexicans cannot even pick up our trash or wipe our babies asses for 5 bucks an hour?

If your family was starving, would you consider it immoral NOT to hop a fence (and risk your life) and do whatever dirty work you could to feed them? Do you think that these poor workers enjoy living as fugitives, and being away from their families for years at a time?

And next time that you get your car washed, buy produce, or eat in a restaurant ask yourself, "How much would this wash/corn/pizza cost me if this estabishment hired my lazy, dope-smoking 17 year old son/daughter?"








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Originally posted by JESSE Quote: Originally posted by David K Hi Jeff, in regards to why Mexicans are here 'illegally' to work... one opinion I put forward is that the many Americans that live on taxpayer's extorted funds, doing nothing to contribute to our society, could do these jobs. Young people as well, whose parents continue to support them after they are 18, could do these jobs. So, since these jobs need to be filled, and lazy or spoiled Americans won't do them all, Mexicans (and others) gladley violate our borders to make in one day that takes a week to earn in Mexico. In my industry, I see it daily... What is your observation? Why do you think Americans don't do all these jobs? If government didn't help, don't you think these jobs would be filled by Americans (if they want to eat)? Finally, do you support the president's efforts to make the failed immigration policy work, so that these otherwise honest Mexicans won't be 'illegal' doing the work Americans refuse to do, because they don't need to, to survive? David, I dont want to sound racist, and since i dont live in the US my opinion can be inacurate, but i was watching a show that my girlfriend likes the other day, Jessica Simpson reality show. Turns out they wanted to landscape their huge yard and plant lawn, so they go and hire these guys from a company that helps jobless people, about 5 black guys and 2 white guys, so they show up next morning and all they did was waste the day working very poorly, taking lots of breaks, and not doing much, so the owners of the house are angry and frustrated, they pay those guys and tell them they will call them.So next day, they hire another contractor, this guys shows up with 7 Mexicans ( looked like illegals to me) and wham bam they go at it hard and get the job done before the day is over. Seemed to me that the illegals where more hungry, more willing to work hard, than the jobless guys, you work in the business Dave, could that be the case?