I think she'll be home by the weekend. There's a lot of unhappy talk going around about this one.monoloco - 5-29-2013 at 08:54 AM
How would a passenger on a bus be able to strap 12 lbs. of marijuana to the underside of their seat without the other passengers seeing them? It seems
pretty obvious that it was most likely placed there by someone who worked for the bus company.Bruce R Leech - 5-29-2013 at 09:55 AM
it would be a lot more logical to suspect one of the two bus drivers.mtgoat666 - 5-29-2013 at 10:08 AM
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Originally posted by DENNIS
I think she'll be home by the weekend. There's a lot of unhappy talk going around about this one.
maybe so, but the chain of events in the story is illustrative of the sometimes criminal cops and military in mexico, and the incompetent bureaucratic
indifference of the legal system in mexico,... yikes!DENNIS - 5-29-2013 at 10:16 AM
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Originally posted by Bruce R Leech
it would be a lot more logical to suspect one of the two bus drivers.
Except, they don't have any money.DaliDali - 5-29-2013 at 10:23 AM
There are thousands in jail who profess "I am innocent"
Just sayinDavidE - 5-29-2013 at 10:24 AM
My comment here is simply a couple of questions...
Is it possible to bundle 5+ kilograms of marijuana put it under a seat and then have it sealed so well it is impossible to detect "MOTA!" by all the
passengers? I am dumb as hell about pot so go easy on me...
Twelve pounds of marijuana is a large package. Under a seat? The passenger did not notice the package under her seat?DaliDali - 5-29-2013 at 10:26 AM
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Originally posted by DENNIS
Quote:
Originally posted by Bruce R Leech
it would be a lot more logical to suspect one of the two bus drivers.
Except, they don't have any money.
On "consignment"?norte - 5-29-2013 at 10:40 AM
Quote:
Originally posted by DavidE
My comment here is simply a couple of questions...
Is it possible to bundle 5+ kilograms of marijuana put it under a seat and then have it sealed so well it is impossible to detect "MOTA!" by all the
passengers? I am dumb as hell about pot so go easy on me...
Twelve pounds of marijuana is a large package. Under a seat? The passenger did not notice the package under her seat?
Your pretty much the expert in everything...How would you have done it?
How would you people like the prison to treat people...doesn't look that far off from Sheriff Joe in Arizona. Our prison's in the rest of the country
are like country clubs with a lot of people wiling to go back just for a good meal. I think the guards should be "rude"DENNIS - 5-29-2013 at 11:00 AM
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Originally posted by DavidE
Twelve pounds of marijuana is a large package. Under a seat? The passenger did not notice the package under her seat?
From what I can gather, it was bungeed up under the seat. Not sitting on the floor.
Witnesses say they were the last to board the bus and didn't have anything like that with them.
It's always interesting to see how far from logic the authorities can stray when there's money to be made. Of course, they don't need plausibility
when they have the guns.monoloco - 5-29-2013 at 11:23 AM
Quote:
Originally posted by DavidE
My comment here is simply a couple of questions...
Is it possible to bundle 5+ kilograms of marijuana put it under a seat and then have it sealed so well it is impossible to detect "MOTA!" by all the
passengers? I am dumb as hell about pot so go easy on me...
Twelve pounds of marijuana is a large package. Under a seat? The passenger did not notice the package under her seat?
I would think that if it was under her seat, it would have more likely to have been noticed by the passengers behind her, unless she
was sitting in the very rear of the bus.Loretana - 5-29-2013 at 11:39 AM
Even if the marijuana was well packed, that much in volume would be the size of a good sized suitcase. The idea that there were around 12 pounds (5
kg) is ludicrous.
Plus, the smell would definitely attract attention.
I have run this scenario over in my mind, and in my opinion this is a stupid attempt to extort money from what probably looked like the most likely
passengers to have the resources for a quick pay off.
The good thing is that this woman and her family are innocent, and have contacted the proper channels stateside to put this b.s. to rest.
I really doubt that the Ministerio Publico in Hermosillo wants his name all over the Mexican newspapers for keeping this woman in prison.
Like Dennis says, she'll be out soon. What do you want to bet those bus drivers are nowhere to be found!DENNIS - 5-29-2013 at 11:52 AM
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Originally posted by Loretana
What do you want to bet those bus drivers are nowhere to be found!
Hopefully they won't because they'll just deny it, and someone's going to take the fall.
This wasn't exactly a cartel shipment, given the small size.
There are so many unasked and unanswered questions that it just leaves us to speculate.......like, I wonder if the military was actually searching the
bus, or did they go right to it?
We'll probably never know, but one thing is certain; there won't be too many locals on that bus that will testify against the military or the police.
As much as I hope for the best, it could still go bad when "saving face" becomes an issue.
Where's Seal Team-6 when you really need them?DavidE - 5-29-2013 at 12:11 PM
I wonder if it was the SSP or militar that "found" the package?
Jeez I've been aboard buses that the passengers had to exit at some puestos de controles and others that they just walked up and down the aisles
looking.
The whole scenario just does not make sense to me. The woman resides in the USA. She is a bus passenger. Twelve pound bale through customs?
I am going to take a wild stab that a lot of heavy-duty US government officials and elected folks are taking a really hard look at this and the
Ministerio Publico that would be responsible for prosecuting the case is not going to be taking a siesta anytime soon.
Some fool decided to mule dope northbound to marijuanos in the northern part of the country. The destination of the bus. Make a few bucks. From what I
have read the price of pot in Oaxaca or Michoacan is about a fourth of what it is in the very northern part of Mexico. There is obviously significant
risk in shipping it even within Mexico
[Edited on 5-29-2013 by DavidE]DENNIS - 5-29-2013 at 12:44 PM
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Originally posted by DavidE
the Ministerio Publico that would be responsible for prosecuting the case is not going to be taking a siesta anytime soon.
Another problem may be, what with the turbulent climate between US and Mex, this may be considered a feather in his cap.
It isn't just one or two down here that act like thugs when US citizens are concerned. I mean, this woman should never have been taken this far with
this issue and, for some reason, that she was is making a statement of some kind, and the farther it goes, the more guilty she will be.DavidE - 5-29-2013 at 01:23 PM
It made it as far as "The Paper" and this incident IMHO is not something like the guy who makes 23 wrong turns and forgets he has a load of guns and
ammo in the trunk and ends up at the end of the barrel of 24 guns in Mexico Secondaria.
Several years ago a friend told me a story about someone he knew screwing up big-time and almost entering Mexico with a handgun under the front seat
he had forgotten about. He panicked and freaking stopped dead on the shoulder of I-5 too late to turn off. He sat there for (I forget for how long)
until a border patrol car pulled in behind him. He explained the problem the border patrol guy called CHP and got the person turned around safely.
A Mexican woman riding a Greyhound in Arizona...just imagine time...
Bus gets into an accident. Cops come and find 12 pounds of pot under the seat assigned to the woman. How much "hot water" ya think she's going to end
up in? She walks?sancho - 5-29-2013 at 02:47 PM
I understand she is in Nogales, Mex, apparently they
are looking
to see if there is enough evidence, I assume, as posted
she will be home by the weekend. Wonder who was
trying for a big mordida payoff? The Mex Army? Someone
may get their **** slapped by Nieto today. On second thought, gotta be the bus drivers or the bus maintance
workers, probably been doing this for yrs
[Edited on 5-30-2013 by sancho]mtgoat666 - 5-29-2013 at 03:03 PM
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Originally posted by El Jefe
another one of those stories that keep anybody in the USA from wanting to come down here on vacation.
have you watched "Weeds?" sometimes the most innocent-looking moms are drug dealers
anywho, being a caucasian middle-class clean-cut-looking soccer mom should not make you above suspicion,... sometimes innocent-looking people have a
hidden outlaw wild streak,... just saying!DENNIS - 5-29-2013 at 03:34 PM
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Originally posted by mtgoat666
sometimes innocent-looking people have a hidden outlaw wild streak,... just saying!
Yeah...but....but....she's a......a Mormon. One of Padre Mitt's finest. Lee - 5-29-2013 at 04:37 PM
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Originally posted by El Jefe
another one of those stories that keep anybody in the USA from wanting to come down here on vacation.
Really? I don't see it that way. US tourists who think this situation could happen to them don't go to MX anyway. This story confirms
what they already believe.
The rest of us think she's guilty or maybe the driver was smuggling the pot.
By the way, 12 pounds would be about the size of a small car seat and about 3'' thick. If wrapped sufficiently, it would not smell.
Odd title for a thread, too. Much ado about nothing.
If I were riding a MX bus, in the future, and I never will, I'd check under the seat.mulegemichael - 5-29-2013 at 04:58 PM
hey, mormons have a propensity to breed so the more mules the better....mitt has always had a good "business" sense about him.chuckie - 5-29-2013 at 05:02 PM
WTF does that mean?Hook - 5-29-2013 at 05:51 PM
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Originally posted by chuckie
WTF does that mean?
I dont know, either, but if she's out by the weekend, I'm converting if this ever happens to me. The Mormon angle is being played up big time in the
US press.
I think an employee of the bus line is the most likely. There was a Tufesa bus driver who was killed in front of his passengers only a couple years
ago on this same route. The bus was forced to the side of the road and BANG!! Even the authorities over here figured he resisted being a mule or had a
former shipment disappear or something unbecoming to some cartel.Hook - 5-29-2013 at 05:57 PM
Oh yeah, I guess the much touted revision of the judicial system and the scrapping of the Napoleonic Code is still a work in progress..........DENNIS - 5-29-2013 at 06:09 PM
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Originally posted by Hook
Oh yeah, I guess the much touted revision of the judicial system and the scrapping of the Napoleonic Code is still a work in progress..........
That's going to take longer than forever. They're going to have to shove "transparency" down their throats against their will. Just think of the
profit opportunities they'll lose.
I once had a landlord in town who was the Procurador of the State Judicial police. He wasn't a judge, but he would hold court in his living room
right below my place.Frank - 5-29-2013 at 06:40 PM
On the news right now. I wonder if the border wait will be shorter...capt. mike - 5-30-2013 at 08:33 AM
another example of how effed up mexico is with all the corruption. I for one have had it with them and their country. The cops failed to show at the
1st hearing yesterday - not one!! so much for the charges but she should NEVER have had to go thru all this. They were south for a funeral. She has 7
kids and no criminal record. No video evidence of her packing it on.
I hope their tourism dumps until they reform and clean up their act. Totally unacceptable - time for it to end.DavidE - 5-30-2013 at 09:30 AM
I do not look forward señor Mike, to this happening during the short lifetime I have left. The system is so thoroughly "skewed" one sector is afraid
of going straight and getting screwed by another. Example: A referendum establishing a fair wage for law enforcement personnel. 99.9999999999999% of
Mexicans would be convinced they will be taxed to pay much higher wages and the cops will continue to bite just as hard.
But then arguing against that, the PFP seeming cleaned up their act. Vamos a ver.DENNIS - 5-30-2013 at 10:41 AM
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Originally posted by capt. mike
The cops failed to show at the 1st hearing yesterday - not one!! so much for the charges but she should NEVER have had to go thru all this.
Thanks, Mike. I was going to ask how it went, but she's not out yet? Is she?durrelllrobert - 5-30-2013 at 11:18 AM
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Originally posted by DENNIS
I think she'll be home by the weekend. There's a lot of unhappy talk going around about this one.
She was allowed a jail house interview on US TV this morning.
An Arizona mother accused of trying to smuggle 12 pounds of marijuana into the U.S. from Mexico says she has “nothing to hide” and expects to be
released soon.
Yanira Maldonado, 42, of Goodyear, Ariz. was arrested by the Mexican military after they found nearly 12 pounds of pot under her bus seat last week.
In an exclusive jailhouse interview, the mother of seven told ABC15.com she had nothing to do with the marijuana packages — packed in plastic bags and
wrapped in tan packing tape — found under her seat.
“I’m going to be free; I’m not guilty,” Maldonado said. “I have nothing to hide.”
Maldonado, a devout Mormon, credited her faith as her source of strength while behind bars for nearly a week in a Mexican jail in Nogales.
“I was nervous before, but now I feel a little better,” she told ABC15.com. “This is a trial that I have to go through. It’s going to make us
stronger.”
Still, Maldonado said she’s eagerly anticipating her freedom.
“This is a nightmare,” she said. “I need to be out.”
Jose Francisco Benitez Paz, Maldonado’s attorney, told a judge during a court hearing on Wednesday that she should be released from prison, noting
that it was a fairly sophisticated smuggling effort that included packets of drugs attached to the seat bottoms with metal hooks — a task that would
have been impossible for someone like Maldonado.
"It was very well prepared," he said. "It wasn't something quick. It was very well done."
Maldonado and her husband, Gary, said they were returning from the funeral of her aunt last Wednesday when the passenger bus they were on was stopped
at a Mexican military checkpoint about 90 miles from the U.S. border. Authorities ordered everyone off, searched the bus and then claimed to have
found the marijuana under her seat.
"It’s looking promising, like our case is solid and theirs looks weak.”
- Gary Maldonado, husband of woman accused of pot smuggling
“We just had our witnesses testify, I did my declaration,” Gary Maldonado, her husband, told MyFoxPhoenix.com by phone. “Yanira did hers yesterday.
It’s looking promising, like our case is solid and theirs looks weak.”
Gary Maldonado said an attorney told them they could pay off the judge, so he had family members wire him $5,000 for the bribe. But he says though the
money was offered, it was not accepted. He also said the Mexican legal system is a far cry from the judicial process in the U.S.
“What they do is they gather up all the testimonies and then the judge will have her secretary-lawyer type all the stuff up and then she’ll give a
recommendation of what she thinks to the judge,” he said. “The judge will decide the case from reading all the evidence, who weighs more in evidence.”
Benitez said that he was hired Friday and represented Maldonado in hearings on Monday and Tuesday. He presented testimony from her and from two
relatives who accompanied the couple to the Los Mochis bus station, and two fellow passengers on the bus. All four testified that she had not been
carrying any drugs.
He described her as depressed, but said she had not been abused of mistreated.
"She doesn't accept any of the accusations that are being made," he said. "She is sad because of the situation, in which she's being accused of a
crime she didn't commit."
Brandon Klippel, Yanira Maldonado’s brother-in-law, told MyFoxPhoenix.com that four members of Maldonado’s family testified in court Tuesday,
including a relative who dropped them off at the bus station. Klippel said witnesses testified that the Maldonados entered the bus “without anything
with them” and that documentation exists confirming that the funeral took place.
“Our greatest fear right now is that our sister will be lost,’’ Klippel told Savannah Guthrie on NBC's "Today" show Wednesday. “One of the things the
attorney said to us right in the beginning is that once you’re in the federal prison system (in Mexico), they move you around without keeping good
records. In fact, she was lost for the first day in the prison system when this first started. "If she’s moved and transported around, we may never
see our sister again, and that’s something that would just be devastating to our family.”
Anna Soto, one of Maldonado's daughters, said she’s innocent and should be allowed to return to Goodyear, a suburb of Phoenix.
“Just let her come home,” Soto said. “Let her come home. She is innocent.”
Soto said she hopes her mother will be home by Friday.
“[I] keep praying, that’s all I can really do,” she told MyFoxPhoenix.com.
The Mexican Embassy in Washington, D.C., said in a statement Tuesday that Yanira Maldonado's "rights to a defense counsel and due process are being
observed." The embassy didn't respond to allegations she was framed.
Patrick Ventrell, acting deputy spokesman for the U.S. State Department in Mexico, confirmed Maldonado's arrest but referred all questions to her
attorney and Mexican authorities. But on Wednesday, a State Department spokesperson said U.S. diplomats have been in touch with both the Maldonados
and Mexican authorities regarding the incident.
U.S. Sen. Jeff Flake, R-Ariz., "is personally monitoring the situation and he has had multiple conversations with the deputy Mexican ambassador," his
office said in a statement.
Click for more from MyFoxPhoenix.com.
Click for more from ABC15.com.
[Edited on 5-30-2013 by durrelllrobert]Bajatripper - 5-30-2013 at 12:36 PM
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Originally posted by mtgoat666
Quote:
Originally posted by DENNIS
I think she'll be home by the weekend. There's a lot of unhappy talk going around about this one.
maybe so, but the chain of events in the story is illustrative of the sometimes criminal cops and military in mexico, and the incompetent bureaucratic
indifference of the legal system in mexico,... yikes!
While I agree that cops can be among the most corrupt people in Mexico (have to to survive on those wages), I have never had any problems with the
Mexican military personnel in that area, always very professional.
This is really a strange case. I agree with those who wonder how a passenger would have the time to strap such a shipment under their seat unobserved.
And only a stupid person would put it under their own seat. There's more to this story than we know, obviously.DENNIS - 5-30-2013 at 01:42 PM
I just got this from an AP article. I hadn't seen or heard this, not that it changes anything:
"Yanira is a naturalized U.S. citizen who was born in Mexico..."David K - 5-30-2013 at 04:14 PM
She has been on TV and radio... This really makes Mexican authorities look dumb IMO... How did she get on the bus before anyone else to strap the
bundle under her own seat? No video cameras at the bus depot?rts551 - 5-30-2013 at 04:33 PM
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Originally posted by DENNIS
I just got this from an AP article. I hadn't seen or heard this, not that it changes anything:
"Yanira is a naturalized U.S. citizen who was born in Mexico..."
and when I heard her interview today she was speaking broken English...maybe because she was upset.David K - 5-30-2013 at 04:56 PM
Seeing her and hearing her speak on TV, it is pretty obvious that English is not her primary language. But, that doesn't make any difference, does it?DENNIS - 5-30-2013 at 05:00 PM
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Originally posted by David K
Seeing her and hearing her speak on TV, it is pretty obvious that English is not her primary language. But, that doesn't make any difference, does it?
It may make a difference to her time spent in a Mexican jail. At least she can communicate.rts551 - 5-30-2013 at 05:08 PM
And it may not have been as obvious she wasn't Mexican so maybe it does make a difference.
Hey you never know..they confiscated 2000 cans of supposed Jalepenos yesterday...the cans were full of pot.
She's FREE...and YES by the weekend as you guessed-
Glad to see she thanked the media (after first thanking god) for helping in her release.
She's cute. Just saying. DENNIS - 5-31-2013 at 07:49 AM
In the interest of tourism, Mexico should use this case to illustrate to the world the changes in their judicial system that are on the table
presently, as well as hiring a PR firm to work on the damage that was done to their image in the last week.
The problems still exist. Nothing has changed.Hook - 5-31-2013 at 08:22 AM
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Originally posted by DENNIS
In the interest of tourism, Mexico should use this case to illustrate to the world the changes in their judicial system that are on the table
presently, as well as hiring a PR firm to work on the damage that was done to their image in the last week.
The problems still exist. Nothing has changed.
I completely agree that when a good instance of judicial changes occurs, Mexico needs to showcase it.
But I'm not sure this was it. It took a WEEK to look at the video that exonerated her? Multiple witnesses testified to her getting on the bus with
nothing like the size of the contraband? I also heard the seats, while assigned at the terminal, were assigned differently when the bus was loading.
No one was in their assigned seats.
And the system used to suspend and conceal the contraband beneath the seat would have taken some time to do. There is no way she could have done this
on a bus full of people without someone seeing it. It was clearly a bus employee; maybe not the driver, but someone.
In the US, this would never have gotten before a judge. A prosecutor would have bounced it immediately. A week to ten days to face a judge is
ridiculous.
Complicating matters was the fact that the military discovered the cache. These people are not trained in determining how reasonable it was that she
was the perpetrator.
Tufesa buses are VERY commonly used by gringos in Sonora, now that the only flight into Guaymas from the US has been terminated. This has gotten
everyone checking their seats and the baggage compartment above them.DavidE - 5-31-2013 at 09:57 AM
Mexican cops are grossly underpaid, underfunded, and expected to bite*, by the public. It is a breeding ground to entice predators, dishearten
potential good cops, and warp those who become a cop with innocent intentions and then realize just what they've gotten themselves into.
*Ever see a rico go ballistic because an honest cop refused to take a bribe. I have. It is not pretty. It involves profanity, threats (some of them
very real), and yelling.
Mexicans themselves are the most educated critics of this truly evil system of law enforcement and judiciary. In the early nineties a film was made
IMHO the finest ever made about Mexican politics regarding law enforcement and it has some of the blackest Mexican style humor imaginable. We left the
movie theater weak from laughing so hard for so long. The PRI after seeing it went ballistic. They had funded the film. You've got to either watch the
movie once very closely or much better yet. Play it again after a while. Watch the small things. The film is a masterpiece.
La Ley de Herodes (Herod's Law)DENNIS - 5-31-2013 at 10:09 AM
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Originally posted by Hook
It was clearly a bus employee; maybe not the driver, but someone.
And, that "someone" was on that bus, escorting the load.
Quote:
In the US, this would never have gotten before a judge. A prosecutor would have bounced it immediately. A week to ten days to face a judge is
ridiculous.
Another problem, not only with the judicial system, but the whole establishment. No one who has a superior is allowed to make a decision. Delegation
of authority is practically unheard of. The military is the worst in this regard. That's a big reason nothing gets done down here until the #1
approves it.DENNIS - 5-31-2013 at 10:12 AM
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Originally posted by DavidE
La Ley de Herodes (Herod's Law)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herod's_LawHeather - 5-31-2013 at 10:16 AM
I was on Jury Duty yesterday in Chula Vista, CA. The judge that spoke to the jurors was saying how our judicial system is the best in the world. He
then went on to say that judges from MX have been observing the process in San Diego courts for the last year.
He said that they are going to make changes where witnesses can give spoken testimony, not just written.DENNIS - 5-31-2013 at 10:29 AM
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Originally posted by Heather
I was on Jury Duty yesterday in Chula Vista, CA. The judge that spoke to the jurors was saying how our judicial system is the best in the world. He
then went on to say that judges from MX have been observing the process in San Diego courts for the last year.
He said that they are going to make changes where witnesses can give spoken testimony, not just written.
Watching the change in the judicial system here, will be like watching the Giant Redwoods grow. Best to take a seat.
There is an excellent book available on the subject. Amazon has it:
"Reforming The Administration Of Justice In Mexico"
she is of hispanic descent, English is her 2nd language. She is Mormon married to a us citizen and she has us citizenship. She has 7 kids and is in
early 40s. The whole event was a set up for a shake down. This stuff will continue.DENNIS - 5-31-2013 at 10:40 AM
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Originally posted by capt. mike
The whole event was a set up for a shake down. This stuff will continue.
Maybe so, Mike. But the opportunities for the shakedown diminish the further it goes. You can't have the whole judicial system involved in a
shakedown. It becomes too public and gets to a point where no one wants to touch it, and she just sits and waits.
Personally, I don't think it was a setup. She was just in the wrong seat at the wrong time and got caught up in it.
Wasn't her husband sitting next to her? I wonder why they didn't take him in as well?
It's The Name Of A MOVIE
DavidE - 5-31-2013 at 10:44 AM
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Originally posted by DENNIS
Quote:
Originally posted by DavidE
La Ley de Herodes (Herod's Law)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herod's_Law
Cut And Paste Movie Review. Quotation marks are mine. The year is entirely incorrect
"
Movie Info
Luis Estrada directs this groundbreaking and extremely controversial satire about Mexico's long-ruling political party, the PRI. Set in the late 1940s
in the remote, thoroughly backwards village of San Pedro de los Saguaros, the film focuses on Vargas (Damian Alcazar), a petty politician who had the
dubious honor of being appointed town mayor after his predecessor was decapitated for corruption by an angry mob. At first, he tries to balance the
books and to bring the 20th century to the backwaters. When he is visited by slick PRI politico Lopez (Pedro Armendariz), however, he learns the
officially sanctioned way of running the town: at gunpoint while pilfering the bank vaults. Soon Vargas becomes a power-mad despot, more than willing
to steal or kill to further his goals. Though his PRI bosses try to reign him in, the lynch mob soon appears to be the inevitable end of Vargas'
political career. The first film to criticize the PRI by name, Estrada's bitter farce savages the ruling party, the church and U.S. intervention. Cult
director Alex Cox plays a small role as a seedy gringo. ~ Jonathan Crow, Rovi"DENNIS - 5-31-2013 at 10:58 AM
Quote:
It's The Name Of A MOVIE......
Yes...I know. There's a problem with the link.
Cut 'n paste this into Google:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herod's_LawDavidE - 5-31-2013 at 11:07 AM
Dangit Dennis I meant to add "Too!" and I got distracted. Desculpame amigo!
[Edited on 5-31-2013 by DavidE]DavidE - 5-31-2013 at 12:53 PM
Tambien here is a cut n paste from the newspaper note the word FEDERAL POLICE not military. I sure as hell would not want to be the comandante nor
ministerio publico responsible for this. The krap really hit the fan in the top levels of gobernacion and I mean Prieta Nieto hisself...
"NOGALES, Mexico (AP) — An Arizona woman held in a Mexico jail for a week after federal police said they found 12 pounds of marijuana under her bus
seat was freed and returned to the U.S..."
Originally posted by DavidE
Tambien here is a cut n paste from the newspaper note the word FEDERAL POLICE not military. I
They are so often wrong with details, David. They don't know the difference.Loretana - 5-31-2013 at 03:47 PM
I keep a copy of "La Ley de Herodes" at our home in Loreto....I encourage my gringo friends to watch it in Spanish.
It sums up the "old" Mexican political system nicely.
Just an observation on my part. capt. mike - 6-1-2013 at 09:24 AM
She wasn't set up per se. The thing was whomever was going to that seat would be the mark. Napolianic law is a bad deal. Check your rights at the
border.DavidE - 6-1-2013 at 09:51 AM
I was camped on a rural beach in Oaxaca in the late 70's. Knock on the door and a loud voice at 10PM "¡POLICIA FEDERAL!"
Three of them plainclothes, outside holding up their gold badges. The old PJF was nothing like the new SSP. These %^&#@! were as corrupt as they
came...
I opened the door and they stepped back in shock.
"You eespeak Espanish? One of them asked.
Si
"Are you OK? We just checking"
Si
They had just busted a camp of hippies on the other end of the beach. Six, eight ten of them I never counted. I could see flashlights bobbing around
over there. I figure when the federales saw my short hair and obvious longest distance away from the hippies camp spot they came to the conclusion
there would not be "one more arrest" made that night. When the sun finally came up there was only trash where the hippie camp was. I have no idea what
happened to them. The dueña of a local tienda later said the hippies had all been arrested and taken to Salina Cruz.
