BajaNomad - Unnerving Border Crossing Experience

Unnerving Border Crossing Experience

Kalypso - 7-7-2013 at 04:54 PM

I had a rather unsettling, if not unnerving, experience with CBP this past Friday night when I was crossing north to return home after a dinner meeting. I'm wondering if anyone else has experienced something similar and what the outcome was.

It was late, probably around 11 pm +/-. I was on foot with a friend and, as usual, cleared immigration just fine. The x-ray machine was off-duty and in it's place a drug sniffing dog. You guessed it, the drug dog took an inordinate interest in me. What happened next was, at least for me, like something out of the Twilight Zone. I was handcuffed and taken to a separate building, frisked from top to bottom including incursions into what are generally called one's private parts. My pruse was searched and my money counted. The searches yielded nothing as I have zero interest in drugs, and would never knowingly transport them. I was given a "sorry for the inconvenience" and sent on my way.

What does concern me is that one of the officers had to complete paperwork and I did see that he marked the results as negative. I did, however, fail to ask what happens to the paperwork and where it ends up. Does anyone know?

I did manage to remember to ask the agent who took me back to the main building if this incident would have any affect on my SENTRI and she said it would not. Accurate?

Anyone know how accurate those drug detecting dogs are? I know they are supposed to be highly trained, but how often do they make an error? The one Friday night clearly did.

And finally, if anyone wants to read the whole story in sordid detail, I did blog here so that I could organize my thoughts about what had happened.

My concerns are that this "drug" stop will show up every time I cross back on foot and/or that it might mean an automatic diversion to secondary when driving back across. I am also wondering if it makes me a target, so to speak, for more frequent and thorough inspections. All I really want to do is to be able to go to Baja, have fun or take care of any business and cross back with a minimum of hassel and fuss.

Has anyone had a drug dog falsely react to them? If so, what happened on subsequent trips SOB?

And no, I have no idea what scent the dog may have picked up or what may have been on my clothes to pique it's interest

TIA, but inquiring minds really would like to know.

[Edited on 7-7-2013 by Kalypso]

DENNIS - 7-7-2013 at 04:59 PM

As unpleasant as it was, I don't think this will follow you. You did nothing and nothing was found.
Just keep an eye out for drones around you house. :lol:

Jes kiddin'.

rts551 - 7-7-2013 at 05:27 PM

yes. Just about everything that happens to you when crossing the border is recorded.

This last time I crossed the agent said Mr... you have a new vehicle that hasn't crossed before..I answered affirmatively and she made some notations in the computer. She then asked if I still had a house in Mexico. I answered affirmatively. So they keep quiet a few records on you from previous crossings.

TMW - 7-7-2013 at 05:36 PM

I think if a dog smells something on you again you will go thru the same thing again, that's the proceedure. Don't take it personal, it's what they do. If you bit*h and complain they will just make it harder.

Kalypso - 7-7-2013 at 06:00 PM

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Originally posted by DENNIS
As unpleasant as it was, I don't think this will follow you. You did nothing and nothing was found.
Just keep an eye out for drones around you house. :lol:

Jes kiddin'.

Thanks Dennis, that's what I'm hoping happens

And you're right, I did nothing wrong and they found nothing, so it should be a non-starter. And I'll keep an eye out for those drones

Kalypso - 7-7-2013 at 06:02 PM

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Originally posted by rts551
yes. Just about everything that happens to you when crossing the border is recorded.

This last time I crossed the agent said Mr... you have a new vehicle that hasn't crossed before..I answered affirmatively and she made some notations in the computer. She then asked if I still had a house in Mexico. I answered affirmatively. So they keep quiet a few records on you from previous crossings.

You're right, and that's the part that actually scares me more than anything. I have no idea what information they already have, which won't reveal much other than I cross frequently, and no idea what it will look like next time I cross.

Big brother is watching...as Edward Snowden has so unfortunately shown.

Kalypso - 7-7-2013 at 06:04 PM

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Originally posted by TW
I think if a dog smells something on you again you will go thru the same thing again, that's the proceedure. Don't take it personal, it's what they do. If you bit*h and complain they will just make it harder.

I did try not to take it personally. I knew they were just doing their job and I was being treated the same as everyone else. It's just a damn intimidating process!

The agent that took me back to the main building did say I was the nicest person they'd had in there all day. I'm sure they get some doozies.

I do wish I knew what set the dog off, though

mojo_norte - 7-7-2013 at 06:21 PM

Handcuffed ? seems a bit over the top. My thinking is some of the Border Agents are acting a bit - 'out there'

DENNIS - 7-7-2013 at 06:24 PM

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Originally posted by Kalypso

I do wish I knew what set the dog off, though

Probably the same hormones that set off a sixteen year old kid.

J.P. - 7-7-2013 at 06:52 PM

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Originally posted by Kalypso

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b-tch and Complain Loudly to anyone who will listen. How the heck do you think we got in this fix .We didn't complain loud enough.

[Edited on 7-8-2013 by J.P.]

BajaBlanca - 7-7-2013 at 07:06 PM

wow....handcuffed? I would not be a happy camper :no:

Thanks for sharing and I hope it never happens to me.

Kalypso - 7-7-2013 at 07:47 PM

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I do wish I knew what set the dog off, though

Probably the same hormones that set off a sixteen year old kid.

Dennis, you just made my day :spingrin:

Thank you

Kalypso - 7-7-2013 at 07:51 PM

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Originally posted by mojo_norte
Handcuffed ? seems a bit over the top. My thinking is some of the Border Agents are acting a bit - 'out there'

It certainly caught me off guard. The agent said it was for both our protection.

Really? Like I'm really going to overpower or escape from a police officer who was at least 6" taller than me, 30 years younger with multple weapons?

The room they take you into is in a separate building and you have to cross the lanes exiting the vehicle inspection lanes, so they want to make sure they've got you firmly under control. Plus the gate to get into the other buiding is combination controlled so they can't keep both hands on their victim all the time. Had they just asked I would have gone with them with no hassel.

Never having been handcuffed before I found it to be a pretty disconcerting experience.

aguachico - 7-8-2013 at 08:39 AM

I do not believe it will be an issue for your sentri. Why? because drug dogs are not 100%. I have been boarded on my boat many times when entering San Diego. I asked the CBP officer why they don't just bring a dog instead of trying to peek in every nook and crany. He replied that the dogs can be easily distracted on the boat, also they can be overwhelmed by different scents. Also at the border, dogs get bored and tired. If the incident is recorded, you would think having tested negative would be in your favor for future inspections.

Being handcuffed is a safety issue and in my opinion a good thing for everyone. What if you were a bad gal and the dog alert was for explosives and not drugs?

wilderone - 7-10-2013 at 09:05 AM

"Handcuffed ? seems a bit over the top. My thinking is some of the Border Agents are acting a bit - 'out there' "

You were arrested - the justification being the dog's "alert". Was your treatment "excessive force"? I worked on a case where a police department dog "alerted" on a safe in a jewlery store, whose owner was suspected of illegal activity due to the number of nefarious looking patrons that came and went. He was handcuffed and questioned - and he filed a lawsuit claiming infringement of his civil rights. The safe was empty, but they searched his entire store without warrant. It's a fine line - a judgment call. Other factors must come into play, i.e., "the totality of the circumstances." In your case, IMO, I think they erred on the side of caution - but they erred.

DavidE - 7-10-2013 at 09:22 AM

Be glad you weren't wearing your turban and very thick coat. HS and CBP are disconnected from reality. Their rewards and promotions come from paranoia and suspicion. They know more about you than you do.

DENNIS - 7-10-2013 at 09:48 AM

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Originally posted by aguachico

Being handcuffed is a safety issue and in my opinion a good thing for everyone.

In public, it would be humiliating for most people I know. In this case, perhaps some of that nasty "Profiling" would have gone a long way in the PR response.
Of course, we're the only enemy some of those a-holes get to play with for an entire career, so they must be bored.

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[Edited on 7-10-2013 by DENNIS]

bajaguy - 7-10-2013 at 09:58 AM

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Originally posted by wilderone
You were arrested

Actually, investigative dention, not an arrest.

DENNIS - 7-10-2013 at 10:28 AM

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Originally posted by bajaguy

Actually, investigative dention, not an arrest.

That's like calling an ass-whipping, "Tough Love."

Lee - 7-10-2013 at 10:34 AM

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Originally posted by DENNIS

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Originally posted by aguachico

Being handcuffed is a safety issue and in my opinion a good thing for everyone.

In public, it would be humiliating for most people I know. In this case, perhaps some of that nasty "Profiling" would have gone a long way in the PR response.
Of course, we're the only enemy those a-holes get to play with for an entire career, so they must be bored.

Cuffed people are less likely to run. If an uncuffed and detained person ran, officers would be justified in shooting. Mayby not. So, safety is important.

DENNIS - 7-10-2013 at 10:37 AM

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Cuffed people are less likely to run. If an uncuffed and detained person ran, officers would be justified in shooting. Mayby not. So, safety is important.

Well....if safety is their concern, perhaps they should add the extra protection of leg-irons.

monoloco - 7-10-2013 at 11:06 AM

I don't think that they could legally use a dog alert as a basis for revoking a Sentri pass. It's not like the dog can give testimony or be cross examined.

DENNIS - 7-10-2013 at 11:36 AM

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Originally posted by monoloco
I don't think that they could legally use a dog alert as a basis for revoking a Sentri pass. It's not like the dog can give testimony or be cross examined.

Having a legal battle with those folks might hurt all the way around. We've already paid for their attorneys.

Yellowtail_Fever - 7-10-2013 at 03:56 PM

As far as I'm concerned if an individual has presented valid proof of US citizenship there is no reason to handcuff...unless, of course, you have an outstanding warrent. Would we accept being handcuffed while answering questions on a "routine" traffic stop or while going through security at the airport? It seems that we are letting freedom die a slow death every day that we put up with that crap.

Just my .02

DENNIS - 7-10-2013 at 04:10 PM

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Originally posted by Yellowtail_Fever
As far as I'm concerned if an individual has presented valid proof of US citizenship there is no reason to handcuff...unless, of course, you have an outstanding warrent. Would we accept being handcuffed while answering questions on a "routine" traffic stop or while going through security at the airport? It seems that we are letting freedom die a slow death every day that we put up with that crap.

Just my .02

It seems some horny dog took an interested sniff at her and the alarms went off.
Pure, over the top reaction from the guard.
If the dogs can't control their hormones, they should be kept in the car lanes where they belong.

This is beyond nonsense. What it is, is police-state sheit.

If the border is a war zone, which most of it is, they should close the gawwwdammm thing instead of pretending it's a welcome center.

mtgoat666 - 7-10-2013 at 04:30 PM

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i have noticed that in past 20 to 30 years that law enforcement in USA has become quite thuggish and lost much connection to the local community,...
at least muni and county police forces answer to the local community (usually, but not always),... but fed law enforcement is untouchable by local political influence, and fed politicians care not, so fed law enforcement has become especially goonish and gestapo-like.

there is no reason to handcuff a person during inspection (well, unless they got crazy eyes and weigh 250 pounds and behave erratically, a description that applies to many nomads :lol:

)

[Edited on 7-10-2013 by mtgoat666]

wilderone - 7-10-2013 at 05:28 PM

A de facto arrest, no probable cause to handcuff. see pp 7-8

http://le.alcoda.org/publications/point_of_view/files/DETENT...

Kalypso - 7-10-2013 at 08:07 PM

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Dennis, you're closer than you think...

The dog was pretty insistent about gluing it's nose in my crotch, which isn't exactly unusal or unknown behavior in dogs. There I was thinking "oh my god, I shoulda used that FDS" and the CBP agents are thinking they've nailed some drug smuggler. The realization that it was a drug dog didn't even hit me until I was surrounded by CBP.

The agent that cuffed me did tell me I was not under arrest but that he would have to handcuff me to transport me. I'm pretty sure I asked him why since I wasn't under arrest. That's when he laid the "safety reasons" explanation on me. The guy had at least 6 inches on me in height and probably weighed more than me, had at least 2 weapons (both of which could be lethal) and there were substantially more of them than of me. As the saying goes...I may be dumb, but I'm not stupid. Just tell me where you want me to go to deal with the issue and we'll go.

Handcuffs are totally a control mechanism because once you're in them you no longer have much control over what does or does not happen to you, which can be more than a little disconcerting.

Once they figured out that I was harmless and were sending me on my way, the officer escorting me back to the main building did allude to the fact that the border was a pretty sinister place. She didn't call it a war zone, but she came close.

I've never liked crossing at SY; it just feels treacherous with all those people, all those cars and all those cops. I like it even less now. It was pretty clear that civil liberties don't rate real high at the border...

[Edited on 7-11-2013 by Kalypso]

motoged - 7-10-2013 at 08:26 PM

Retired or current Nomad LEO's are remarkably silent on this topic. Howcome?? :?:

DENNIS - 7-10-2013 at 08:36 PM

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Originally posted by motoged
Retired or current Nomad LEO's are remarkably silent on this topic. Howcome?? :?:

It's a different agenda. Out of their element. They still have to deal with civil rights.

Mulegena - 7-10-2013 at 09:05 PM

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Originally posted by DENNIS

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Originally posted by motoged
Retired or current Nomad LEO's are remarkably silent on this topic. Howcome?? :?:

It's a different agenda. Out of their element. They still have to deal with civil rights.

Whose rights are they dealing with such civility? Their own, correct?
(Had to check urbandictionary.com to find out you were referring to retired donut jockeys-- hey, that's what it says)

Kalypso, I'm so sorry for your experience. Can't find adequate words to express the dismay felt on so many levels! I've not passed north through the San Ysidro crossing for many years, but for very different reasons. It is a rough sea out there, yes it is.

motoged - 7-10-2013 at 09:46 PM

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Originally posted by motoged
Retired or current Nomad LEO's are remarkably silent on this topic. Howcome?? :?:

It's a different agenda. Out of their element. They still have to deal with civil rights.

Perhaps I should have been clearer: I am referring to the practice of using the cuffs for "safety reasons" with an unknown individual outside of arrest situations . I see them do it all the time on the TV "Cops" program....so it happens in different situations with LEO's.

Still waiting for an LEO response..... :?:

DENNIS - 7-11-2013 at 07:34 AM

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Originally posted by Mulegena
Whose rights are they dealing with such civility? Their own, correct?
(Had to check urbandictionary.com to find out you were referring to retired donut jockeys-- hey, that's what it says)

Actually, I was referring to police forces away from the border.

motoged - 7-11-2013 at 10:32 AM

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Actually, I was referring to police forces away from the border.

Oh, I thought this thread was about border security :rolleyes:

DENNIS - 7-11-2013 at 10:53 AM

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Oh, I thought this thread was about border security :rolleyes:

It's about many many many many many many things. :light:

motoged - 7-11-2013 at 10:57 AM

Claramente :lol:

DavidE - 7-11-2013 at 11:59 AM

OH GOODY!

NOW I KNOW WHERE THOSE REJECTED AIRPORT BODY SCANNERS ARE HEADED

Lee - 7-11-2013 at 01:14 PM

What I'm reading seems like protocol. Dog smells something and that triggers some investigating. Transport may/may not mean cuffs. LEO call. If a person hasn't been cuffed before, it could be intimidating. Is there more? Stuff like this happens. It's unpleasant. That's about it.

aguachico - 7-11-2013 at 02:30 PM

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You can't have protection and freedom at the time. The protocol for protection, like those protocols in prison are not the same as a traffic stop. I can understand the hate and contempt for the CBP. They are less invasive then the TSA, then again I don't mind the TSA seeing they are 'protecting' - there's that word again, my culu at 30,000 feet.

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DENNIS - 7-11-2013 at 03:16 PM

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You can't have protection and freedom at the time.

Second Amendment will argue that point, but we can save it for another time. :light:

David K - 7-11-2013 at 03:46 PM

As you may have read in my May trip report, at Tecate, while stopped at the border kiosk, a dog was walked to my truck and went nuts jumping on the side of it (scratches added at no charge)! It wasn't anything in my truck, but dogs in back of the truck in the next lane over that excited the government K-9! I still got sent to secondary... as common sense and the long interview the greenhorn* officer didn't matter.

* perhaps the oddest questioning I ever got in 40 years of driving across the border...

U.S. Officer: "Where in Mexico were you?"

Me: "Just south of San Felipe."

U.S. Officer: "San Felipe? I don't know where that is, but is it where there are mostly gringos living, like at Mulege or Loreto?"

Me: "I think all those towns are mostly Mexicans with maybe small American populations... We don't go somewhere in Mexico because Americans are there."

U.S. Officer, kept using "gringo" to describe people and it was odd and bordered on upsetting. Not that it matters but he was European-American with a Southern accent.

I suppose it was still far better than being handcuffed 'for my safety'!!!

mojo_norte - 7-11-2013 at 05:26 PM

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Originally posted by David K
As you may have read in my May trip report, at Tecate, while stopped at the border kiosk, a dog was walked to my truck and went nuts jumping on the side of it (scratches added at no charge)! It wasn't anything in my truck, but dogs in back of the truck in the next lane over that excited the government K-9! I still got sent to secondary... as common sense and the long interview the greenhorn* officer didn't matter.

* perhaps the oddest questioning I ever got in 40 years of driving across the border...

U.S. Officer: "Where in Mexico were you?"

Was it the young uber serious guy w/ wire rim glasses ? What gets me about many of the secondary guys is how clueless they seem to be on what you're (and the Gringo thing is ) about - pulling in with a stack of boards and mountain bikes 'what were you doing in Mexico?'
duhh.. They ought to send these guys down to San Felipe for a week as part of their training

U.S. Officer: "San Felipe? I don't know where that is, but is it where there are mostly gringos living, like at Mulege or Loreto?"

Me: "I think all those towns are mostly Mexicans with maybe small American populations... We don't go somewhere in Mexico because Americans are there."

U.S. Officer, kept using "gringo" to describe people and it was odd and bordered on upsetting. Not that it matters but he was European-American with a Southern accent.

I suppose it was still far better than being handcuffed 'for my safety'!!!

mojo_norte - 7-11-2013 at 05:27 PM

oops ..

Was it the young uber serious guy w/ wire rim glasses ? What gets me about many of the secondary guys is how clueless they seem to be on what you're (and the Gringo thing is ) about - pulling in with a stack of boards and mountain bikes 'what were you doing in Mexico?'
duhh.. They ought to send these guys down to San Felipe for a week as part of their training

DENNIS - 7-11-2013 at 05:41 PM

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Originally posted by mojo_norte
'what were you doing in Mexico?'

Actually, they couldn't care less what you did. They just want to hear you respond. If you sound nervous or distracted, they'll give you a closer look.

Correcamino - 7-11-2013 at 06:40 PM

Had a bad encounter with Danny the drug dog (not his real name) myself! Border Patrol "Interior Checkpoint" on Interstate 8, 15 miles east of Yuma, AZ. Rolled down window, "Hello, officer!," got waved into secondary. "Sir, can you exit the vehicle?" OK. "Sir, place the keys on the dashboard and move over to the seating area." OK. Danny was brought over, dancing merrily, even though he was a Belgian Malinois and it was 112 degrees. "Sir, our dog has indicated for narcotics in your vehicle." Narcotics?!?! "Yes sir, marijuana." Hmmm... "Will you allow the dog to search inside your vehicle?" "Certainly, officer. Should I put away the food and drinks?" "Yes, sir". Danny leaped into the car and did a pirouette on each seat, energetically nosing each inch of the interior, and broke into a stationary trot on the passenger seat. "Our dog has indicated again for marijuana in the passenger seat, sir. Can we look around further?" Now I'm getting nervous: I had rented the 2012 Chevy Malibu that morning. It had smelled like smoke - tobacco smoke, I thought at the time. Guess not! "What if the stoner previous renters left a baggie of dope in the car," my wife asked? Suddenly, situation not funny. "Guess we'll need a lawyer," I said, NOT smiling. No pot was found. Danny danced back to the auto lineup with his handler for another few hours of sniffing. The two officers who remained sized up my wife and me, mid 50s, white as Norman Rockwell models, middle class, well mannered. "OK, sir, I see this is a Hertz rental. You should contact them." "OK, officer: keep up the good work, I appreciate your service." Damn! Only problem: we had about 3,000 miles to go to get to Houston and back, almost all in the 100-mile border zone. We went through 12 to 15 Border Patrol stops including the one that busted Willie Nelson. Never again got "alerted to" by Danny's co-workers, but, God, were we nervous every time!

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[Edited on 7-12-2013 by Correcamino]

David K - 7-11-2013 at 07:11 PM

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oops ..

Was it the young uber serious guy w/ wire rim glasses ? What gets me about many of the secondary guys is how clueless they seem to be on what you're (and the Gringo thing is ) about - pulling in with a stack of boards and mountain bikes 'what were you doing in Mexico?'
duhh.. They ought to send these guys down to San Felipe for a week as part of their training

No, this was at the border not in secondary just past border. No glasses, either.

Mulegena - 7-12-2013 at 07:36 AM

Ok, since we're telling drug dog encounters and I'm still having coffee this morning-- hold on, let me get a refill please-- be right back-- There.

We were traveling north from a shopping trip to La Paz and the back of the pickup was stuffed full, safely enclosed in the camper shell. We'd packed up, locked up the shell and climbed into the cab with our dog and a new baby kitten that Nomad C-Urchin had given us.

We got to the checkpoint north of Loreto, and as always were asked to get out for their routine inspection, so we all spilled out of the cab-- husband, dog, me with purse slung over my shoulder and kitten in my arms.

Well, husband couldn't unlock the camper shell for inspection so a dialogue ensued, the usual questions "Who are you? Where were you? Why? What's in the back?" We became the center of attention; all the soldiers gathered around us. Someone produced a hammer out of thin air to which my husband responded laughingly, "If you break it you pay for it!". That stopped the young soldier and the sergeant stepped up and said they would then bring the drug dog out.

Ok, no worries.

We watched the proceedings closely, husband overseeing the proceedure. I got to watch this beautiful Belgian Malinois at work. It proved nothing. They let us go and traffic returned to normal. All the while my dog sat at my side and, gratefully, the kitten stayed calm resting in my arms.

Husband easily opened the campershell the next day with a couple spritzes of WD40.

The kitten is now a big cat.

Another time. Another checkpoint. Another dog, a shepherd-lab mix.
Another unusual encounter with the Mexican military.
The guys on duty really liked her and wanted us to give her to them. No way!!

Correcamino - 7-12-2013 at 11:41 AM

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I got to watch this beautiful Belgian Malinois at work.

Exactly! As I rolled into the BP checkpoint east of Yuma, I said to my wife, "look at at that beautiful dog!" (Belgian Malinois). It looked so out of place in the nasty AZ desert heat with all those wannabe S.W.A.T. BP agents.

Bajafun777 - 7-14-2013 at 07:58 PM

Looks and age have nothing to do with not being a threat. At the Mexicali/Calexico Port some years back a 72 year old man sent to Secondary got out of his car wanting to use the bathroom or some other excuse and was lead into the secondary office where he pulled a gun and started shooting. He hit two officers before one returned fire and threat terminated. You just never know anymore what people from all walks of life will or will not do. Hope all of our travels are easy and border crossings quick but I don't take things personal when crossing, business is business and mine is FUN so I accept what is, LOL. "No Hurry, No Worry, Just FUN" bajafun777

EngineerMike - 7-21-2013 at 09:18 AM

I hope I have that kind of energy when I'm 72 ;-)

Drug & bomb dogs require regular recalibration. For them its a game, like fetch. If you don't let them win from time to time (which requires actual search of luggage or autos w/actual drugs or bomb materials in one of them), they get bored & their results are unreliable.

I never thought of that FDS trick. I wonder if that would throw off the dogs that want to sniff my crotch? Or maybe I'd just get smelled up by the gay dogs. Too many variables I guess.

[Edited on 7-21-2013 by EngineerMike]

Cisco - 7-21-2013 at 10:38 AM

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I got to watch this beautiful Belgian Malinois at work.

"To Yuma County, the Border Patrol's dogs look more like geese — as in the ones laying golden eggs.

They've brought in hundreds of thousands of dollars in the past few years. Until a change was made last fall, fines ranged between $750 and $1,400 for the small-time marijuana violators picked up at the checkpoints. Now, fines usually run $400 — but that still works out to be a lot of money considering there have been more than a thousand cases a year."

http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/2008-03-13/news/border-patrol...

monoloco - 7-21-2013 at 10:52 AM

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I got to watch this beautiful Belgian Malinois at work.

They could increase their take if they set up a dispensary across the border in California to sell the stuff they confiscate in Az.