BajaNomad - RoundUp equivalent?

RoundUp equivalent?

CP - 10-29-2013 at 08:34 AM

What might I ask for at an Ag Supply store for weed killer spray?

David K - 10-29-2013 at 08:35 AM

Herbicide

DENNIS - 10-29-2013 at 08:48 AM

Paraquat....a reliable contact killer. Cost around 100 Ps per liter of concentrate. A capful will work with a couple of gallons of water in a sprayer.
Happy Hunting.

David K - 10-29-2013 at 08:59 AM

Just to clarify, Round Up, Paraquat, etc. are product names for types of herbicide... 'plant killers'.

boe4fun - 10-29-2013 at 12:45 PM

You might want to try vinegar - but find some "industrial grade" and see: http://www.agardenforthehouse.com/2011/06/got-weeds-use-vine...

motoged - 10-29-2013 at 01:42 PM

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Originally posted by DENNIS
Paraquat....a reliable contact killer. Cost around 100 Ps per liter of concentrate. A capful will work with a couple of gallons of water in a sprayer.
Happy Hunting.

Really, Dennis?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paraquat

http://www.experiencefestival.com/paraquat

Why not just get some Agent Orange?

It works,too

http://www.experts123.com/q/is-agent-orange-a-paraquat-diquat-or-mofamquat.html

[Edited on 10-29-2013 by motoged]

DENNIS - 10-29-2013 at 02:00 PM

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Originally posted by motoged

Really, Dennis?

Why not just get some Agent Orange?

It works,too

Sure does. I'm not talking about flying a tankerfull over your garden. just a little spritz of sudden death from a Hudson Sprayer.

We've been through this here in the past, and an expert stated that Paraquat wasn't quite the same as AO, but close.

Besides....what's wrong with a little cancer when we have socialized medicine? Getting rid of it will be free, and fast,....wont it?

BTW...I'll have to read your links later. I'm going to be late for my appointment to have these growths cut off my ankels. :lol:

bledito - 10-29-2013 at 04:06 PM

borax powder

DENNIS - 10-29-2013 at 04:13 PM

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Originally posted by bledito
borax powder

That gets rid of ankle lesions? Thanks. I'll try it. :biggrin:

motoged - 10-29-2013 at 04:14 PM

Dennis,
Yah....I have used round up twice....kills everything :biggrin:

I hope those ankle growths are simple.....don't glow in the dark, and don't need a key. :saint:

http://www.ebay.com/sch/sis.html?_kw=Furry+Steel+Metal+Leg+Ankle+Restraints+Handcuffs+Cuffs+-+BLACK

[Edited on 10-29-2013 by motoged]

Russ - 10-29-2013 at 04:22 PM

Round Up .... I just hit my yard twice in 3 days with it and all the weeds are doing quite well. The loco weed is thriving. I was hoping for brown but got a beautiful nitrogen green. :?:

David K - 10-29-2013 at 04:29 PM

Round Up takes a week+ (if it hasn't rained or been foggy after you apply... second application is usually done a week after first on any that don't begin to show color change).

DENNIS - 10-29-2013 at 04:38 PM

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Originally posted by motoged
Dennis,
Yah....I have used round up twice....kills everything :biggrin:

I hope those ankle growths are simple.....don't glow in the dark, and don't need a key. :saint:

http://www.ebay.com/sch/sis.html?_kw=Furry+Steel+Metal+Leg+Ankle+Restraints+Handcuffs+Cuffs+-+BLACK

Jeeeezo, Sr. Ged......are you offering me jewelry?

Didn't know we were so close. :lol:

DENNIS - 10-29-2013 at 04:44 PM

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Originally posted by David K
Round Up takes a week+ (

Old age [mine] doesn't allow for slow, lingering demise.
Paraquat shows signs of death in three hours. Full annihilation in 24.
Kill quickly.........don't torture. Even weeds is Gawd's children.

David K - 10-29-2013 at 04:53 PM

Right Dennis, but Round Up is available to civilians without special permits... and Russ did use the brand name Round Up... so I was not endorsing it, just explaining why his weeds were not dead in 72 hours.

Jack Swords - 10-29-2013 at 09:05 PM

Most growers use a small addition (1/2 tsp per gallon) of ammonium nitrate or ammonium sulfate to the roundup to enhance the absorption by the plant. Speeds up the process quite a bit. Diquat, if you can get it, is safer than paraquat and used in ponds and other bodies of water to kill water weeds.

Barry A. - 10-29-2013 at 10:06 PM

Anybody know how to kill bamboo??? Round-up takes forever, and takes lots of applications, apparently. Been working at it for 4 months and am just now seeing results.

Barry

willardguy - 10-29-2013 at 10:18 PM

remember in the 80's when the DEA was spraying paraquat in the forests to eradicate that evil weed? how about paraquat kelly on the mighty met!? :tumble:

Russ - 10-29-2013 at 10:31 PM

Actually I'm familiar with Round Up. Before I moved here I worked 9 years with the Kitsap County Parks. We used it on some trails, fence lines, noxious weed control, rehabed planters and even some smaller play fields among other applications. It was our grass and broad leaf control of choice. Didn't do much on black berries tho.
Down here it hasn't done squat over (for me) the years. I keep trying it but it doesn't seem the right product for my weeds. The local gardener charges me $30 to hoola hoe the yard and everything is good for a couple of weeks. Putting out bird food doesn't help the cause much. The Round Up does works on what ever bird seeds root.
I will try some of the suggestions above. Thanks for the input.

monoloco - 10-30-2013 at 07:10 AM

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Originally posted by Barry A.
Anybody know how to kill bamboo??? Round-up takes forever, and takes lots of applications, apparently. Been working at it for 4 months and am just now seeing results.

Barry

Backhoe.

monoloco - 10-30-2013 at 07:12 AM

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Originally posted by Russ
Actually I'm familiar with Round Up. Before I moved here I worked 9 years with the Kitsap County Parks. We used it on some trails, fence lines, noxious weed control, rehabed planters and even some smaller play fields among other applications. It was our grass and broad leaf control of choice. Didn't do much on black berries tho.
Down here it hasn't done squat over (for me) the years. I keep trying it but it doesn't seem the right product for my weeds. The local gardener charges me $30 to hoola hoe the yard and everything is good for a couple of weeks. Putting out bird food doesn't help the cause much. The Round Up does works on what ever bird seeds root.
I will try some of the suggestions above. Thanks for the input.

If you get on the weeds quick with the hula hoe, before they go to seed, you won't have much of a weed problem after a couple of years.

DENNIS - 10-30-2013 at 07:57 AM

A sure cure for unwanted weeds:

http://tinyurl.com/mm3n2sx

Taco de Baja - 10-30-2013 at 07:57 AM

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Originally posted by CP
What might I ask for at an Ag Supply store for weed killer spray?

Roundup is common, but you can also ask for some 2,4-D, if it has not been banned.

2,4-D is for broad leaf weeds (and plants), not grasses.

[Edited on 10-30-2013 by Taco de Baja]

gnukid - 10-30-2013 at 08:01 AM

roundup is poison that severely harms the environment and people, so are other chemical herbicides.

There are other methods, such as hand weeding, temporary covers, ground cover, mulch, top dressing.

Are there any other non-chemical suggestions?

[Edited on 10-30-2013 by gnukid]

Taco de Baja - 10-30-2013 at 08:10 AM

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Best way to get rid of bamboo and giant reed (Arundo donax), that looks like bamboo but isn’t, is with a backhoe to dig up all the rhizomes and then burn them. :lol:

But that's usually too much work. Next method is to cut the stems/stalks as close to the ground as possible and immediately spray the area with Roundup. If you have a large area, and it's hard to keep track of what's been sprayed and what hasn't, add some dye to the spray mix. Wait a couple weeks and re-spray any sprouts as needed. It may take a while, but eventually the patch will be dead.

Taco de Baja - 10-30-2013 at 08:17 AM

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Originally posted by gnukid
roundup is poison that severely harms the environment and people, so are other chemical herbicides.

There are other methods, such as hand weeding, temporary covers, ground cover, mulch, top dressing.

Are there any other non-chemical suggestions?

[Edited on 10-30-2013 by gnukid]

Hand weeding is of course best, but not practical if you have anything over a quarter acre, hence the prevalence of chemical methods.

I suppose goats, horses and cows would be an effective non-chemical method, but they have their own challenges.

gnukid - 10-30-2013 at 08:32 AM

For larger areas use tools to turn the soil and use light cover cloth to reduce growth, annual cover crops help, ground covers, mulch and intelligent garden design.

Round is poison that harms the food chain, animals, and causes birth defects, cancer and health problems globally. IF you use round-up it kills the surface plants and they certainly come back, so you will use it again and again. It costs money that could be applied to other beneficial solutions.

I help garden at many houses and we have never used round-up or poison, it just takes a little effort, planning, design and maintenance. We have gardens full of healthy birds, fruits and vegetables.

There must be one other nomad with suggestions to avoid poisons?

monoloco - 10-30-2013 at 08:44 AM

Roundup isn't cheap, 1 guy with a hula hoe can knock down all the weeds on our 1/2 acre property in a couple of days, and even if you use roundup, someone still needs to clean up the dead weeds, so for me it's better to avoid the poison, stimulate the local economy, and just hire a guy to clean them up by hand.

mtnpop - 11-12-2013 at 05:36 PM

Just received this from a friend in Az. so I don't know much about the product other than the Az hwy dept uses it supposed to kill the weeds to the root and I believe also the seeds...
Its called Razor Pro and can be purchased on Amazon or Ebay and probably other places....
Might want to research it more as it is kind of pricey also....
he claims he uses it in his yard and its amazing...
might be worth a look into

Russ - 11-12-2013 at 05:51 PM

Here the message I got when I went to purchase some,Razor Pro HERBICIDE 41% Glyphosate 2.5 gal. Weed Killer
"PLEASE NOTE: This prodcut can not be sold to residents of California."
Figures :mad:

KaceyJ - 11-12-2013 at 06:03 PM

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Barry,

Cut it all down with a chain saw close to the ground and then water it really good. When you get a healthy start of young tender shoots starting spray a 5% RU solution on the new growth . Reapply if neccessary. Then , after its dead , as Monoloco suggest , tractor the roots out

KaceyJ - 11-12-2013 at 06:07 PM

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Originally posted by Russ
Here the message I got when I went to purchase some,Razor Pro HERBICIDE 41% Glyphosate 2.5 gal. Weed Killer
"PLEASE NOTE: This prodcut can not be sold to residents of California."
Figures :mad:

Russ

I believe that's the same as roundup

For woody plants try crossbow

Barry A. - 11-12-2013 at 06:09 PM

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Originally posted by KaceyJ

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Russ

I believe that's the same as roundup

For woody plants try crossbow

No problem buying "Round-UP" in Redding, Ca-------I just did the other day.

Barry