What is the Easiest to Pass on the Road?

I like passing a herd of cows or horses the best. They are usually well off of the road in a safe place.

yer sound like a real 'has bean(s)'

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I never remember having to pass a big truck----------they are always passing me.

For me the easiest to pass is an RV towing a boat--------they are just as nervous as I am, and therefore always behave themselves and are predictable. The worse are horses and cows----totally unpredictable, and you have to almost stop before passing them.

Barry

We find horses to be far worse than cows! It seems that once the cows see you, and you proceed slowly, they will leave the road. On the other hand, horses are apt to jump right out in front of you --- very unpredictable, or just really stupid.

Then again, if sheep are crossing the road, you just have to stop because they go where the dogs tell them to go. And while I think coyotes are really very intelligent, we recently had one commit suicide in front of our car.

It seems that all animals, including the human species are just plain unpredictable, and few are to be trusted.

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Originally posted by DianaT Quote: Originally posted by Barry A. The worse are horses and cows----totally unpredictable, and you have to almost stop before passing them. Barry We find horses to be far worse than cows! It seems that once the cows see you, and you proceed slowly, they will leave the road. On the other hand, horses are apt to jump right out in front of you --- very unpredictable, or just really stupid. Then again, if sheep are crossing the road, you just have to stop because they go where the dogs tell them to go. And while I think coyotes are really very intelligent, we recently had one commit suicide in front of our car. It seems that all animals, including the human species are just plain unpredictable, and few are to be trusted.

Horses are just very emotional, but not stupid-----

I trust all humans until individuals prove my trust is misplaced. People make mistakes---------'trust, but verify' is the best policy, I believe. But when your life is at stake, crank up the "verify" mode, and be REALLY careful.

Barry

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Originally posted by Barry A. Horses are just very emotional, but not stupid----- I trust all humans until individuals prove my trust is misplaced. People make mistakes---------'trust, but verify' is the best policy, I believe. But when your life is at stake, crank up the "verify" mode, and be REALLY careful. Barry

Okay, their emotions get in the way of their brains, I guess.

As far a people go? Any more, I prefer to verify before I trust as too many people are experts at wearing disguises; been burned too many times. Ah heck, I still set myself up too easily by trusting others.

Be it emotions, brains, or no brains, human animals are very unpredictable on the highways no matter what type of vehicle they are riding or driving. Best, to expect the unexpected. :-)

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Originally posted by DianaT Quote: Originally posted by Barry A. Horses are just very emotional, but not stupid----- I trust all humans until individuals prove my trust is misplaced. People make mistakes---------'trust, but verify' is the best policy, I believe. But when your life is at stake, crank up the "verify" mode, and be REALLY careful. Barry Okay, their emotions get in the way of their brains, I guess. As far a people go? Any more, I prefer to verify before I trust as too many people are experts at wearing disguises; been burned too many times. Ah heck, I still set myself up too easily by trusting others. Be it emotions, brains, or no brains, human animals are very unpredictable on the highways no matter what type of vehicle they are riding or driving. Best, to expect the unexpected. :-)

Like the Deer Caught in Your Headlights

To answer your quiz, soulpatch....Naturally, passing a bicyclist would be the easiest.


The Baja Road would be a lot safer if we could all avoid the 'deer knuckle' crowd wherever possible. The real menaces are the drivers who exhibit anxiety, fear, panic, surprise and/or confusion, or substance abuse...with widely opened eyes and a lack of motor reactions. Bad or incapacitated drivers simply cannot react properly to the sudden & deadly events they encounter...and the chances that they will be culled from the herd are high.





Headlights anecdote. This will provoke some critics to the core, but that's as it should be. My experience is many round trips each year from 2 years before the highway was completed past my home in 1973. From time to time I often drive long, lonely stretches of the Baja Road at night. Far less traffic and very serene. Has anyone had the extreme pleasure of driving slowly across very straight and wide-open stretches of the Baja Road on a bright, clear moonlight night? ...with zero traffic? The scenery is magnificent and shows so brilliant that you can turn off your headlights and still see everything very clearly. Much more so than with the lights on. (I learned this as a teen driving on starlit and moonlit nights in the bright white snowfields up north) Coyotes, deer, cattle, burros, horses...all busy being part of the rock & cactus landscape. Play a little Pavoratti at low volume...it blends well. I tell you, it's a rare experience.

Naturally, the scene is best enjoyed without other vehicles....duh.

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There is a thing called International rule of Etiquette .That applies to all means of transportation. Air, Water, and land all human powered vehicles have the right of way in the order of Human over Air, And Air over Power. Get over your self respect everyone's right of way.

Goat, your (and a few others) insistance on not dealing with the reality of this 'bike vs motorized vehicle' dilemma is just mind-boggling to me! It is a similar subject to spectators running across the race-course along the Baja 1000 (etc.), or worse, those that stand too close to the passing race cars----------do you also champion their right to do these dangerous things?? (perhaps you do!?!?!?)

Think about it.

The reality is that people will, and do, drive too fast on Mex 1 whether that is right, or not, and the road is VERY narrow. Bicycles are no match with motor vehicles when collisions occur, and that is a FACT!!!

It's really as simple as that, to me anyway, and I am a bike rider (but NOT on THAT road).

Barry

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Originally posted by soulpatch Be nice if the debaters in p!ssing contest could haul it back over to the other multi-page p1ssing contest. Lordy, ask a simple question.......

Over the line !!

I suppose that we all should realize that "the Goat" is simply a computer, not a human, and just responds to certain prompts.

Barry

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Originally posted by soulpatch Quote: Originally posted by Barry A. Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 Follow the golden rule Slow down Share the road Peace out! I suppose that we all should realize that "the Goat" is simply a computer, not a human, and just responds to certain prompts. Barry Come on, Barry, use some cognitive behavioral motivation here! Nobody got called an idiot or any other name and the message was simple and helpful! I'll take it over the constant I'm right/your an idiot crap!

Narrow roads in Baja Sur

No one has mentioned the DEADLY GAME that some of the Truck Drivers play. When they meet a Oncoming Rv they will quickly veer over the line and back on to thier side so that the end of the trailer is on your side as you pass and your drivers side mirror explodes. It happened to me twice on the straight stretch south of Guerro Negro. the second time i was watching carefully and saw the whole thing unfold. as a string of trucks approached they were traveling close together the last truck set up for the hit just as it approached.
A truck driver that was following me stopped to help and was the one that explained it to me, He had a extra mirror and helped me jerry rig it on my R.V.

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Originally posted by J.P. No one has mentioned the DEADLY GAME that some of the Truck Drivers play. When they meet a Oncoming Rv they will quickly veer over the line and back on to thier side so that the end of the trailer is on your side as you pass and your drivers side mirror explodes. It happened to me twice on the straight stretch south of Guerro Negro. the second time i was watching carefully and saw the whole thing unfold. as a string of trucks approached they were traveling close together the last truck set up for the hit just as it approached. A truck driver that was following me stopped to help and was the one that explained it to me, He had a extra mirror and helped me jerry rig it on my R.V.

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Originally posted by soulpatch Quote: Originally posted by Barry A. I am use to "the Goat's" caustic comments in Off-Topic, so granted I am probably over-reacting to him. Barry Ah, Barry, don't be an old goat! I was yankin' your chain! Just nice to see a post without labeling someone, from someone who constantly baits the easy fish on here, be it an America destroying liberal or idiot or whatever.... Peace!

Good point, Soulpatch-------------I will pull back my jerking knee a bit.

Barry

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Originally posted by Barry A. Quote: Originally posted by J.P. No one has mentioned the DEADLY GAME that some of the Truck Drivers play. When they meet a Oncoming Rv they will quickly veer over the line and back on to thier side so that the end of the trailer is on your side as you pass and your drivers side mirror explodes. It happened to me twice on the straight stretch south of Guerro Negro. the second time i was watching carefully and saw the whole thing unfold. as a string of trucks approached they were traveling close together the last truck set up for the hit just as it approached. A truck driver that was following me stopped to help and was the one that explained it to me, He had a extra mirror and helped me jerry rig it on my R.V. My brother-in-law had the exact same thing happen to him, twice. After the second time, he never went to Baja again!!! True story. Barry

I would guess they would say, "both". That is what I would say, anyway.

Barry

Now we're getting closer to agreement.